From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #70 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, February 27 2002 Volume 07 : Number 070 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] RE: Private gigs if you've got the dosh ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] Re: [AVALON] RE: Private gigs if you've got the dosh ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] Hear 'Cruel' from Frantic [David Firmin ] [AVALON] bit o' bry ["anotherphotographer" ] [AVALON] Promo's for Frantic ["Rod LeCloux" ] Re: [AVALON] Promo's for Frantic [Alex Popovic ] Re: [AVALON] frantic cover [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Promo's for Frantic ["paula brown" ] [AVALON] Frantic ["The Siren" ] Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. ["thom.wallace" ] Re: [AVALON] Hear 'Cruel' from Frantic ["thom.wallace" ] [AVALON] Questions [Bahi ] [AVALON] Concord 2001 ["N. S. Koff" ] Re: [AVALON] Promo's for Frantic [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] Baby Blue ["N. S. Koff" ] [AVALON] Cruel Snippet ["PeteK" ] Re: [AVALON] Concord 2001 ["Pete Seely" ] Re: [AVALON] Concord 2001 ["R. Jackson" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 18:18:58 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: [AVALON] RE: Private gigs if you've got the dosh >3rd of June is the same day as the Queen's Golden Jubilee Music event - another possibility. Paul McCartney, Elton John and that Kiwi opera lass KarniTikiwana or whatever the hell she's called have been confirmed (and probably baptised). "Invites" are by ballot only, there's 12,000 available. And it's being held in Liz's back garden. Hope her rhododendrons survive. Your Royal Correspondent ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:33:15 -0800 (PST) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] What Kind of Fool am I? A 'fool for love' with money to burn? Sorry, I can wait for the official release. If Paul and Sped weren't on it, I'd probably wait for the cut-out bin :) Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 18:41:34 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Private gigs if you've got the dosh Telephone 0900 1952 2002 to be entered in the ballot. That number's quite clever if you think about it... Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:18 PM Subject: [AVALON] RE: Private gigs if you've got the dosh > > "Invites" are by ballot only, there's 12,000 available. And it's being held > in Liz's back garden. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:43:05 EST From: OBrienFerry@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Hear 'Cruel' from Frantic For anyone interested in hearing a sneak preview of some songs from 'Frantic' use the link on the front of vivaroxymusic.com. John O'Brien ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:50:32 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hear 'Cruel' from Frantic On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 OBrienFerry@aol.com wrote: > For anyone interested in hearing a sneak preview of some songs from > 'Frantic' use the link on the front of vivaroxymusic.com. And yet some of you still think the album cover is a fake. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:56:28 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hear 'Cruel' from Frantic We can all save a few bob by downloading the songs and burning it to a CD. Then we can print out the cover and lyrics! on 2/26/02 10:50 AM, Colleen Matan at cjem@his.com wrote: > On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 OBrienFerry@aol.com wrote: > >> For anyone interested in hearing a sneak preview of some songs from >> 'Frantic' use the link on the front of vivaroxymusic.com. > > And yet some of you still think the album cover is a fake. > > Colleen *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:16:57 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: [AVALON] Caution: Frantic lyrics content! How could anyone read the lyrics to San Simeon and not want to buy the CD? Absolutely sublime imagery! While the subject certainly seems a departure (though perhaps this is Dreamhome done without tongue in cheek), it echos with the familiar, chilling, and at times abruptly startling Ferry darkness that has become less focused, more diffuse over the years and which many of us will view as the beckoning howl in the distance calling us home. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:18:04 -0500 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time in your mind >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:24:10 -0800 (PST) >From: Aleks Kocan >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time in your mind > >- --- Grant Goggans wrote: > > > That doesn't make the artwork any less crap, though. > > At least it's better > > than the art for In Your Mind. > >And whats wrong with the artwork for "In your >mind"..........??????? Quoting myself from my discography on Always Unknowing, because I am lazy, "And as for that sleeve, well, there's nothing wrong with it that removing the T-shirt, the haircut, the sunglasses, the lighting, the typeface and that hambone expression on Bry's face wouldn't fix." - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:25:33 -0500 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:07:17 -0600 >From: "paula brown" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. > >Aw, you're all just bitter because there's no naked women on it. Spoiled >little pukes! Leave something for the ladies, will ya? Paula Solo Bryan Ferry albums have not tended to feature women on the front sleeve, only the interiors or back covers -- Boys and Girls the exception. I wasn't expecting any on this one. - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:31:38 -0000 From: "anotherphotographer" Subject: [AVALON] bit o' bry Hi last week at 10.00 BBC1 man child a kind of sex in the city for old blokes mmmm anyhow it started and finished with a bit of Bry LST I thought it was an one off it's on again tonight . . . . . . . . . . . I wonder . . . . . . regards young ernie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:09:58 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hear 'Cruel' from Frantic I broke down and heard it. As usual, Spedding blows Manzanera away. Sorry Bill. Just work on that cover :) *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:30:59 +0100 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: [AVALON] frantic cover - --- Grant Goggans wrote: > > > > > That doesn't make the artwork any less crap, though. I've heard about someone who only likes "covers" with Spedding or/and Thompson on it. Can you imagine? Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:56:34 -0600 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: [AVALON] Promo's for Frantic After reading all the discussions about the test pressing/promo's for Frantic I began to wonder which radio station in the U.S. will actually receive these. And if they actually make thru the station manager/filter guy will they even get on the air? I can't picture any radio stations in Wisconsin even playing anything off of Frantic on the radio. Can you? Rod(Green Bay) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:23:02 -0600 From: Alex Popovic Subject: Re: [AVALON] Promo's for Frantic Wisconsin ? Try any state between NY and California.....with the exception of WXRT-Chicago. Alex (S.E. Wisconsin) on 2/26/02 2:56 PM, Rod LeCloux at andromeda_801@hotmail.com wrote: > After reading all the discussions about the test pressing/promo's for > Frantic I began to wonder which radio station in the U.S. will actually > receive these. And if they actually make thru the station manager/filter > guy will they even get on the air? > > I can't picture any radio stations in Wisconsin even playing anything off of > Frantic on the radio. Can you? > > Rod(Green Bay) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:18:37 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic cover Which covers would those be? Ferry does seem to be coming to the conclusion that "song covers", "new songs" and Roxy Music work much better with Spedding and/or Thompson. His supposed album cover sucks! (I'd use a smiley-face thing so you know I'm kidding but I'm counting on you, unlike so many others here, having a sense of humor) David on 2/26/02 12:30 PM, Han Snijders at snijders.geest@hetnet.nl wrote: > --- Grant Goggans wrote: >>> >>>> That doesn't make the artwork any less crap, though. > > > I've heard about someone who only likes "covers" with Spedding or/and > Thompson on it. > Can you imagine? > > Han *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:06:53 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Promo's for Frantic >>"After reading all the discussions about the test pressing/promo's for Frantic I began to wonder which radio station in the U.S. will actually receive these. And if they actually make thru the station manager/filter guy will they even get on the air? I can't picture any radio stations in Wisconsin even playing anything off of Frantic on the radio. Can you? Rod(Green Bay)"<< If there's something on the CD that resembled More Than This at all, they'll probably pull that as the single and use its history to try to get airplay at those same stations and any that showed interest in ATGB. They'll solicit a wider range of stations than will consider playing it, which is good, but if it's in that vein, it will end up on light rock stations primarily, maybe some of those that mix light rock and jazz. And they are slow to add stuff, obviously, since they're all still playing mostly old stuff. If everything on the CD is a bit feistier than "More Than This," they'll have an even harder time getting it played, because "Love Is the Drug" was a quarter of a century ago. But they might have a slightly better chance of getting a video played. Any markets where there is special interest in Ferry's coming and goings will get some rotation because then they have something to talk about as well, on the ones who do talk. Dallas will probably have someone play it for the Jerry Hall factor, for instance, and then they can dig up that grave again. Ferry will be asked to do interviews, especially since he has a personna aside from his music, i.e. Esquire Most Elegant Man or whatever that was and, of course, the fox hunting controversy. An interview will assure airplay leading up to the interview, during the interview, and if there was any interest from the audience, because it still isn't on the real playlist, after the interview. They will run Bryan ragged, ask him a lot of embarrassing questions, which he's quite gracious about; he'll sign a bunch of photos and promos, get some sleep if he's lucky, and do the same thing somewhere else the next day. He's done it all before, so at least he knows that only a fraction of the optimistic load of BS he's being told all along the way will pan out. You can help save Bryan by requesting to hear his CD at the most likely radio stations and not acting like you know so much about it as to put their antennae up that you work for his label, because the stations have to put up with that crap all the time and their antennaes are up for it and justifiably so. They don't want to know that a core fan wants to hear his music, they want to know that some moe on the edge of their demographic who needs corrective eye surgery and calls in saying he heard a song by "that fairy guy" might stay tuned long enough to have the name of their biggest advertiser, "A Clockwork Orange Laser Eye Surgery," imprinted in his brain long enough to mention what radio station he heard their name on while he's talking to the receptionist while waiting for his Lasix to get underway. You can also help Bryan by phoning in with UNembarrassing questions (and I realize this eliminates a small but determined contingent of you) when he does his radio interviews. Although.....embarrassing questions are better than no questions at all. Poor Bryan. But then, there's also print press and Internet, and he seems to usually fare well there, but airplay it ain't. .........Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod LeCloux Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 3:01 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Promo's for Frantic After reading all the discussions about the test pressing/promo's for Frantic I began to wonder which radio station in the U.S. will actually receive these. And if they actually make thru the station manager/filter guy will they even get on the air? I can't picture any radio stations in Wisconsin even playing anything off of Frantic on the radio. Can you? Rod(Green Bay) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:02:05 -0000 From: "The Siren" Subject: [AVALON] Frantic A far cry from the Puxley-heralded avant garde rock'n'roll [of Alphaville], Frantic nevertheless represents a departure for BF of the same magnitude as ATGB. References to TBSB are aposite. However, this is a remarkable work in its own right. More accessible in many ways than Alphaville (which of course, just like everyone else, I have never heard) and Mamouna, this is the first time in a long time that BF's vocals come to the fore in the mix. Thank God. And what excellent displays of harmonica virtuosity (no sarcasm) Baby Blue is a good track, and the vocals are reminiscent of some on Another Time. Cruel is a red-indian war dance of a song, with one of the angriest lyrics BF has ever written. Going Down is a great night time driving song. Love Goddess might yet be a grower, getting better every listen - ironically, I now wonder what the Alphaville sessions version sounds like. Fool for Love is superb, and is, like The Only Face, a great example of how a different rendition, stripped of synths, lets the song itself shine. A rather insightful reflection on what his life had been like, in days gone by, when he was perhaps the arrogant King in the song. San Simeon is simply one of BF's best songs ever - and I love this version, (without the whips sounds effects). Very Dream Home v2. I really do think this is possibly the best song since Pearl. Does anyone doubt what Hiroshima is about? Another clue to BF's obsessions/addictions etc....it couldn't be more obvious IMHO. Rather than go through each song, I'll single out just one more great, I Thought. Others have likened it to Warm Jets. I agree. But it's so much more. What a way to end an album... the flame within the fire. It's worth mentioning the quality and style of the lyrics here - outstanding. I am not sure whether I prefer Alphaville to Frantic. But I am sure that they both represent some of the best work BF has done for a very, very long time. And whatever happened to the songs Frantic and I didn't get it right, of the Alphaville sessions? When will the [as yet] unreleased Alphaville and Horoscope material come out? Will the alternate versions ever come to light? And the much rumoured duet? Still much great stuff to come - who ever said that BF wasn't still THE major force? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:03:20 -0000 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Goggans" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. > --Grant, munching happily until I got to the rim, which was made of thicker > leather and folded three ways. From past experience I'd suggest choping it in to fine pieces and then boiling it up with some vegetables. Cheers, Tom. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:14:05 -0000 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hear 'Cruel' from Frantic - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Firmin" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hear 'Cruel' from Frantic > I broke down and heard it. As usual, Spedding blows Manzanera away. Sorry > Bill. Bearing in mind that I don't rate the playback quality of Real Audio very highly I thought the solo sounded pretty ordinary and way too upfront in the mix. Speading is a good guitarist, but not what I'd call original. Manzanera may not be technically the best player in the world, but he does have the edge over Speading. I wasn't impressed by Speadings work on "My Only Love" during the Roxy tour, it lacked the subtlety of Neil Hubbard and his slide work on "Both ends Burning" just about ruined the song for me. Having said that we're all entitled to our views. All the best, Tom. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:26:48 -0000 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' On 22 Feb 2002 at 10:28, Colleen Matan wrote: > And can someone please tell me what the heck is going on with all this > carping about songs people haven't even heard? Quite right. I'm saving all my carping for afterwards! Regards David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:47:35 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hear 'Cruel' from Frantic Yeah, I guess I've always preferred stripped-down rock 'n' roll. I was quite pleased by the brief clip. Spedding always had that 50's thing going and I love to hear the slide guitar. This album, like the Roxy tour, seems to have something for everyone. on 2/26/02 3:14 PM, thom.wallace at thom.wallace@ntlworld.com wrote: > Bearing in mind that I don't rate the playback quality of Real Audio very > highly I thought the solo sounded pretty ordinary and way too upfront in the > mix. Speading is a good guitarist, but not what I'd call original. Manzanera > may not be technically the best player in the world, but he does have the > edge over Speading. I wasn't impressed by Speadings work on "My Only Love" > during the Roxy tour, it lacked the subtlety of Neil Hubbard and his slide > work on "Both ends Burning" just about ruined the song for me. Having said > that we're all entitled to our views. > > All the best, > Tom. *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:58:24 -0000 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. I can't remember if I expressed my doubts on the list, but I did indeed have my suspicions about the cover. This has more to do with my opinion of the artwork than my opinion of vivaroxymusic.com (and its creator.) Indeed, the people in charge of the pointless bryanferry.com should take a good hard look at this site, and others like it, and hang their heads in shame. As for the hat eating bit...I choose a straw hat, easier to digest you see. I would stay away from derbys & deerstalkers though, they taste like sh*t! Regards Neil Jones - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Goggans" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. > >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:26:18 -0000 > >From: "thom.wallace" > >Subject: [AVALON] Hat eating time. > > > >Aren't we due a bit of online hat eating, I seem to remember a few of our > >membership being convinced that the artwork on vivaroxymusic.com was a > >hoax... > > Sure. I'll happily eat my hat. I'd be first in line to do it, if I wasn't > on the digest. I was convinced that was a hoax, and I was wrong. > > That doesn't make the artwork any less crap, though. At least it's better > than the art for In Your Mind. > > --Grant, munching happily until I got to the rim, which was made of thicker > leather and folded three ways. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 15:55:58 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hear 'Cruel' from Frantic Can we at least agree that *anything* w/o backup singers is better than most everything *with* backup singers? At 03:47 PM 2/26/02, you wrote: >Yeah, I guess I've always preferred stripped-down rock 'n' roll. I was quite >pleased by the brief clip. Spedding always had that 50's thing going and I >love to hear the slide guitar. This album, like the Roxy tour, seems to have >something for everyone. > > >on 2/26/02 3:14 PM, thom.wallace at thom.wallace@ntlworld.com wrote: > > > Bearing in mind that I don't rate the playback quality of Real Audio very > > highly I thought the solo sounded pretty ordinary and way too upfront > in the > > mix. Speading is a good guitarist, but not what I'd call original. > Manzanera > > may not be technically the best player in the world, but he does have the > > edge over Speading. I wasn't impressed by Speadings work on "My Only Love" > > during the Roxy tour, it lacked the subtlety of Neil Hubbard and his slide > > work on "Both ends Burning" just about ruined the song for me. Having said > > that we're all entitled to our views. > > > > All the best, > > Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:44:00 +0000 From: Bahi Subject: [AVALON] Questions A long post, and I'm afraid it's almost all questions. I've been wondering whether any of the lyrics for the new Ferry collaborations on the new album were co-written. Does anyone know of a commercially available song whose words were co-written by Bryan Ferry? (Exclude the altered lyrics of existing songs that Bryan has recorded but include Bryan's own recordings.) I haven't seen words and music credited separately on Bryan's collaborations (e.g., lyric: Bryan Ferry, music: Johnny Marr/Bryan Ferry), even when only the words are printed somewhere. Some lyricists insist on taking all credit for the words in the writing credits but Bryan doesn't seem to be one of them. What I've seen in print describing his previous songwriting procedures (from both the Roxy era and later work, like Bjte Noire) suggests that in co-written songs, the words and usually the melodies are Bryan's. Chord structures, bass hooks, keyboard and guitar parts may come from others and have sometimes earned songwriting credits. (Seven Deadly Sins comes to mind - bass and guitar riffs seem to play a bigger part in that one so Messrs Pratt and Kamen get credit.) Sometimes quite detailed instrumentals (like the piece by Andy that became A Song for Europe, or Johnny Marr's Money Changes Everything) become songs. So, do the current collaborations with Dave Stewart work the same way? In other words: are the words Bryan's? - --- What happened to the work that Ferry was doing with Chris Difford, of Squeeze? In '98, Difford said, "I've been working with Bryan Ferry for a considerable period of time, writing lyrics with him [...] He's finished with it. He's just waiting to get a deal [...]" This music, then, is either part of Alphaville or was eventually excluded from it. Does anyone know more? - --- Is Difford credited with any of the songwriting on Frantic? - --- Eno was recently reported to have written a song "for", rather than "with" Bryan Ferry and was hoping (said the same article - I've forgotten where I read it) that Bryan would include it on his new album. The piece didn't quote Eno directly on this but the wording implied that the the the song, including its words, were presented by Brian to Bryan - does anyone know if this song forms the basis for I Thought? (I know that this one is now credited to Eno and Ferry.) - --- Would someone with an advance copy of Frantic post a list of its featured guitarists? - --- A few years back, we were wondering about a song that Madonna said she had written for Ferry. This is a 17 year old question, the original source of which was Smash Hits magazine in late 1985 or early '86 (but before the release of Is Your Love Strong Enough?) in which Madonna was quoted directly about what she'd been working on recently: "I wrote a song for Bryan Ferry." Does this mystery remains unsolved or have I just missed the answer? Most of the concerns of the time - just a few years ago - like the report of a re-recorded version of Pearl, and the search for the answer to the Horoscope question, were sorted by Avalonians. (Hello, Andy.)) A few Avalon subscribers are probably close enough to Ferry's management and associates(*) to be able to know or find out more about this one. In which case, if anyone's prepared to post the answers, I'd love to know the name of the song, whether it was ever recorded by Bryan and whether it was ever later released by Madonna or another artist. Clearly, answers to the first two of these questions would make the third redundant but perhaps someone's knowledge or bravery might extend to answering only the last - and that would be a great start. (*) After reading the rather wounded words of Ja Nuns Hons Pris - which, thematically, sit so well next to those of the newly war-torn Fool for Love - I hesitate to use the word 'friends'. - --- Finally, at the end of this mammoth post, I'd like to echo others' thanks to John O'Brien, whose knowledge and passion for Ferry's music are almost as unusual as his determination to share them both, to the benefit of Avalon subscribers and visitors to VivaRoxyMusic.com - thanks, John. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:59:03 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: [AVALON] Concord 2001 * I have received a copy of "Concord Great" a 2 CD audience recording of Roxy Music's show in Concord, CA on August 5, 2001. * It's an audience recording, and not the best sounding one I've ever heard but I intend to do a bit of work on it before I release it so it will sound better than it does now by then. It's also not the worst sounding show I've heard, by a long shot. * I am delighted to offer "Concord Great" to the world. If you want it, this one's for trade only -- no B & Ps. * I will do the artwork for it shortly. Before I do, anybody with a better title suggestion is welcome to submit it. Once the artwork is complete you will be able to download a PDF file containing both the double-front and the rear insert off my webpage. I'm working on getting an anonymous FTP account set up. * I don't burn "on the fly." I burn from WAV files that were extracted in secure mode with Exact Audio Copy. I don't use that Roxio junk -- hopefully any CDs you get from me will be as good as possible. * If you are interested in obtaining this from me, just send me an email off list and I'll provide you with the full particulars. * Enjoy the show! Warmest regards, Nick N/P: Roxy Trade Page: http://boootlegs.com/roxy.htm Roxy Trade Page - Text Only: http://boootlegs.com/bootxt04.htm Other Trade Stuff: http://boootlegs.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 21:33:19 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Promo's for Frantic On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Rod LeCloux wrote: > After reading all the discussions about the test pressing/promo's for > Frantic I began to wonder which radio station in the U.S. will actually > receive these. And if they actually make thru the station > manager/filter guy will they even get on the air? > > I can't picture any radio stations in Wisconsin even playing anything > off of Frantic on the radio. Can you? I can. I will confess that I had the chance to listen to some of _Frantic_ a few days ago (and although I am afraid I will draw the ire of "Mr. Avalon" I stress the words "hear" and "some" as it is not in my possession) and I have to say that it's easily the best work Ferry has done since _Boys and Girls_. And I bet we do hear some of it on the radio (I did hear some of B&G on the radio in Minneapolis from time to time.) However, leaving "Love War" off this album was a mistake. That would have been a huge hit for Mr. Ferry (hoping this allows Mr. A to forgive me). Colleen P.S. What are you all going to do? I anticipate writing a positive, if not glowing, review of Mr. Fery's new release. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:13:06 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: [AVALON] Baby Blue They're very excited over at the Joni Mitchell listserv over Joni Mitchell's version, which is going to appear on the newly remastered Dog Eat Dog. Who's going to cover it next, Robert Plant? Warmest regards, Nick N/P: Photoshop 6 Roxy Trade Page: http://boootlegs.com/roxy.htm Roxy Trade Page - Text Only: http://boootlegs.com/bootxt04.htm Other Trade Stuff: http://boootlegs.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:51:25 -0800 From: "PeteK" Subject: [AVALON] Cruel Snippet Wow wow wow wow wow. That snippet at the german virgin site sounds great. It has HIT written all over it. I'm more excited than a mosquito in a blood bank. Thanks again to John and http://vivaroxymusic.com/ for linking me there. Running out of time. NP Stan Ridgway's Bing Can't Walk ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 22:56:58 -0500 From: "Pete Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concord 2001 Hi Nick, Two things: one, I shipped your cds yesterday, so you should be receiving them soon. Second, I am interested in the Concord show, though I don't know if I have anything left that you want for trade. You know about roxy, Bowie, and Elvis. I'll give you a list of names, and if you're interested in any of them, I can send youu details. I'll indicate with an asterisk if I have any with artwork: Daevid allen/Gong James Brown George Clinton * Bootsy Collins* Robert Fripp/League of Gentlemen * Fripp and Eno * Stranglers* Psychedelic Furs Tangerine Dream * Cramps Guess Who Kraftwerk Ramones Brian Wilson* The Residents Beatles* Beach Boys* Neil Young* Iggy Pop Pink Floyd * Cat Stevens Linda Ronstadt Siouxie and the Banshees Chris Isaak Johnny Winter * Lene Lovich Santana * thanks, Pete - ----- Original Message ----- From: "N. S. Koff" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:59 PM Subject: [AVALON] Concord 2001 > * I have received a copy of "Concord Great" a 2 CD audience recording of > Roxy Music's show in Concord, CA on August 5, 2001. > > * It's an audience recording, and not the best sounding one I've ever heard > but I intend to do a bit of work on it before I release it so it will sound > better than it does now by then. It's also not the worst sounding show I've > heard, by a long shot. > > * I am delighted to offer "Concord Great" to the world. If you want it, > this one's for trade only -- no B & Ps. > > * I will do the artwork for it shortly. Before I do, anybody with a better > title suggestion is welcome to submit it. Once the artwork is complete you > will be able to download a PDF file containing both the double-front and > the rear insert off my webpage. I'm working on getting an anonymous FTP > account set up. > > * I don't burn "on the fly." I burn from WAV files that were extracted in > secure mode with Exact Audio Copy. I don't use that Roxio junk -- hopefully > any CDs you get from me will be as good as possible. > > * If you are interested in obtaining this from me, just send me an email > off list and I'll provide you with the full particulars. > > * Enjoy the show! > > > Warmest regards, > > Nick > > N/P: > > Roxy Trade Page: http://boootlegs.com/roxy.htm > Roxy Trade Page - Text Only: http://boootlegs.com/bootxt04.htm > Other Trade Stuff: http://boootlegs.com/ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:51:33 -0800 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concord 2001 Wow. If anyone ever *does* want to do a B&P for this, *please* keep me in mind. That night was the highlight of 2001 for me. ;-) - -Rob (nuthin' to trade...) At 05:59 PM 2/26/2002 -0800, you wrote: >* I have received a copy of "Concord Great" a 2 CD audience recording of >Roxy Music's show in Concord, CA on August 5, 2001. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 23:01:51 -0500 From: "Pete Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concord 2001 Me too! By the way, sorry my offer to Nick was on list. I hate making that mistake! Pete S. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Jackson" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concord 2001 > Wow. If anyone ever *does* want to do a B&P for this, *please* keep me in > mind. That night was the highlight of 2001 for me. ;-) > > -Rob (nuthin' to trade...) > > At 05:59 PM 2/26/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >* I have received a copy of "Concord Great" a 2 CD audience recording of > >Roxy Music's show in Concord, CA on August 5, 2001. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #70 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest