From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #69 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, February 26 2002 Volume 07 : Number 069 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Frantic Review ["Martin Stockman" ] [AVALON] Bless Us Father For We Have Sinned ["Mr Avalon" ] Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. ["Grant Goggans" ] [AVALON] Ten Bobs Worth [OBrienFerry@AOL.COM] Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time in your mind [Aleks Kocan ] [AVALON] "Baby Blue" and the charts ["Grant Goggans" ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic Ban [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic Ban [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic Ban [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Bantic fran [KB Porter ] [AVALON] Ferry's Forum [OBrienFerry@AOL.COM] [AVALON] Frantic Singles [OBrienFerry@AOL.COM] Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. ["paula brown" ] Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time in your mind [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] european treeToronto 1975 (Blanks & Postage) ["kartor@liber] Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. [Susan Stekel ] Re: [AVALON] Ten Bobs Worth ["Tim Kendrick" ] [AVALON] Isle Of Wight Festival 2002 ["Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Review >I miss the days when you bought an album on the day of it's >release, not >knowing what to expect. >If 'anyone' burns this promo and distributes it, Bryan will never >get the >sales he deserves. Some fool paid $125 for it on eBay! >David I suppose this snotty mail requires a reply. For a number of years now I, and a couple of my London-based RM/BF pals, have ingratiated ourselves with the cream of Fleet Street in an effort to hear the precious jewels ahead of release date. I've been lucky with all but Taxi. I don't own a CD burner, indeed I'm not even sure what one would look like. It goes without saying that this small circle of chums will buy all formats of all releases as and when they hit the high street. Bryan has alluded to the pleasure of poring over the sleeve of a favourite disc and, for me, although I'll know the songs inside out by April 15th, there'll still be a massive thrill to unwrap the true article on release day. (Incidentally isn't John O'Brien due an apology from the many Avalonions who questioned the veracity of the Frantic cover ?) As for Kari paying $125 for the promo, well, all I can say is "What a bloody bargain." A couple of people have made critical remarks about the mini review that I posted, (although scores have mailed me off-list for further detail.) Whilst I do insist that my children leave their gifts under the tree until Christmas Day I fail to see how this personal review can have spoiled any fellow Avalonions day. Over the next six weeks we'll all be encountering press reviews of the album, most written by rote with little sense of detail or context. Many will mispell his Christian name and waste ink on his country pursuits. Many will barely listen to the 13 tracks and build a story around, say, the Eno-associated number. I dare say you will read these many reviews, David, regarding them as somehow above the radar and in turn somehow legitimate. Viva the Maestro, Viva Frantic. pip pip Martino Hold on - the flower says reach out the thunder says no shout is greater than mine listen and hold on - till the day fades out smothered in gold ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 04:59:06 EST From: OBrienFerry@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Tour baseball caps taste horrible. Just to clear up a few points: the text referring to vivaroxymusic.com on the 'Frantic' sleeve on my web site was added by myself and not by anyone in the Bryan Ferry management team, I doubt if that would ever happen. The web site is viewed by many people outwith this mailing list who don't know me or my sense of humour and tend to accept the information as true. Therefore, John O'Brien might take the Mickey now and again on a forum where a lot of people know him but not on a web site where people only see what's on it and not the people behind it. I am only glad that 'officialdom' now see that the flow of information to the fans has a higher level of priority than before and I am only to happy to convey that. I deliberately post only the link to the info rather than copy/paste it to Avalon as I appreciate there are a lot of people still want the element of surprise when buying the records etc. Jock McBrien ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:02:48 +0100 From: "van Lammeren, Anton" Subject: [AVALON] Cruel ! ! ! A sign of life from a lurker that hasn't been to well last days. Came home after a weekend of Carnaval to discover that my home has been robbed. And for the second time my (almost) complete colletion of Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry cd's is STOLEN! This time no lent copies of bootlegs (Hi Andy), but my very own. I'm back to 4 cd's in a [BF signed! Rotterdam 13/9/01] booklet: the thrill of it all. So my thrill will start again in acquiring all other material... Some of you will help me recollect, I hope, I pray, I plead . . . Looking forward to Frantic's CRUEL: "Everywhere I go there's a world full of heartache, hole in the sky now tell me where for God's sake where is that sunshine where is that rainbow Oh God I want to hear tell me what I want to know". Tara, Anton. - -Anton van Lammeren http://huizen.dds.nl/~avl (with some Roxy folly) e-mail: avl@dds.nl Q: Are you comfortable with your looks? BF: I've seen too many horrible photographs of me to ever feel confident about my looks. From a couple of angles, I can look O.K. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:00:49 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Rover Cars I was meaning to scan that in and email it to someone who can put these things on the internet. Within a split second of turning the page, it screamed "RIP OFF". In fact, I'll probably use the ad for a boot cover! SimonG >>> "Nigel Hollis" 02/25 4:05 pm >>> Somewhere in the advertising agency that is contracted to Rover Cars is someone who must be either a closet Avalonian or is heavily influenced by RM. A few years back we all remember Rover`s advertising one of it`s models using VP as the backing track - well, has anyone seen Rover`s latest 2 page advert for their 75 series anywhere in the weekend colour magazines? Now the bad news is that you will all just have to search for this one I`m afraid as I cannot find this advert anywhere either on Rover`s website or the internet. Good hunting! Regards, Nigel. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:49:19 -0600 From: "Mr Avalon" Subject: [AVALON] Bless Us Father For We Have Sinned The Conscience of Avalon (tHom and Martin) have spoken. Tthey demand that WE all apologize because We Doubted The New Cover. (And they asked very graciously, AS USUAL, I might add( HOW can we look at ourselves in the dust covered mirror? Never mind that that other ThomAS was forgiven. This is AVALON, after all. Choose you're seconds and meet at sunrise. HOW can such an offense stand. Terrible. Just terrible. The Mr Avalon Management will now extend their apologies's for doubting the following; Father Christmas Micheal Jackson The Srhoud of Turin Geraldo Rivera and Toma The DogFaced Boy. The WISE MAN once said: if you eat at a virtual buffet you WILL starve. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Mr Avalon _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:50:43 -0600 From: "Mr Avalon" Subject: [AVALON] Bless Us Father For We Have Sinned The Conscience of Avalon (tHom and Martin) have spoken. Tthey demand that WE all apologize because We Doubted The New Cover. (And they asked very graciously, AS USUAL, I might add( HOW can we look at ourselves in the dust covered mirror? Never mind that that other ThomAS was forgiven. This is AVALON, after all. Choose you're seconds and meet at sunrise. HOW can such an offense stand. Terrible. Just terrible. The Mr Avalon Management will now extend their apologies's for doubting the following; Father Christmas Micheal Jackson The Srhoud of Turin Geraldo Rivera and Toma The DogFaced Boy. The WISE MAN once said: if you eat at a virtual buffet you WILL starve. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Mr Avalon _____________________________________________ Free email with personality! Over 200 domains! http://www.MyOwnEmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 04:12:34 -0800 (PST) From: Scotty Subject: [AVALON] Frantic in Australia Unfortunately, I suspect that 'Frantic' may endure a delayed release in Australia....the word from the distributors today was that they could not supply a release date. Of greater concern was the fact that they could not confirm a title for the album either! Pleasingly, the name 'Bryan Ferry' appeared to be recognised as that of a recording artist ;-) Scotty np/ Midnight Oil - Capricornia Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:06:55 -0500 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:26:18 -0000 >From: "thom.wallace" >Subject: [AVALON] Hat eating time. > >Aren't we due a bit of online hat eating, I seem to remember a few of our >membership being convinced that the artwork on vivaroxymusic.com was a >hoax... Sure. I'll happily eat my hat. I'd be first in line to do it, if I wasn't on the digest. I was convinced that was a hoax, and I was wrong. That doesn't make the artwork any less crap, though. At least it's better than the art for In Your Mind. - --Grant, munching happily until I got to the rim, which was made of thicker leather and folded three ways. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:19:03 EST From: OBrienFerry@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Ten Bobs Worth With all the dabate on Frantic I thought I would add my ten bobs worth. It's well documented that some of the material is less than fresh but is it passed its sell by date? I care not whether the material was written yeterday or 20 years ago as long as the quality is there. The point has been made in the past that the fact that this album is made from fragments of other projects and this might make the album not flow as well as something that was written produced and recorded as a project with a singular direction. Bryan has a good team in place and I am sure they have considered this and hopefully have produced & compiled the material in a way that will flow as one opus. This album is not marketed at us here, I am sure 99% of us will buy 'Frantic' anyway and only then will they discover whether they like it or not, by that time the record company etc have made their sale. Their target is a much wider audience who know not or care not whether this album was written & recorded 2 months or 2 years ago. We are maybe too precious about our artist and his output and look into it too much. I am sure I have many albums at home by other artists that I have enjoyed the album and all I know of it is that I put it on and 45 minutes later I thought 'I enjoyed that', not knowing what traumas, re recording etc the artist went through during the making of that album. This album like many albums should not be preduced against with the pre conceived negativites of, 'it's half covers', 'it's using old material', 'it's not as good as: For Your Pleasure, Ziggy, New Gold Dream or whatever' which is applied to the review of many albums by many artists. This CD should be judged purely on the merits of value for money by anyone buying it. You pay #15 slide the needle in the groove and 45 minutes later you enjoyed it or you never. I don't think the point made about the material being old is not purely a worry for the quality of the album. I think in some cases the point was that it might be a worry/sign to us as fans that our artist's creativity may be drying up that remeains to be seen. Han made a good point about the artwork being more marketable than a lot of the previous albums. Fans like us make a point of knowing what and when a new product by Bryan/Roxy is in the market place so as I said before we ar not the target audience. I remember when Taxi was out, which was the longest period between releases and Bryan needed more marketing than ever before, that if you browsed through the CD racks flicking over the cascaded discs you would only see the top third of a 5 inch square disc. A lot of people who liked Bryan/Roxy in the '70's/'80's might have bought Taxi if the name Bryan Ferry was in that top third of the cover as they would have pulled the disc out and read the sleeve and maybe bought it instead of flicking past it unaware of who it was. This album sleeve wheather it's an artistic masterpiece or not is ceratinly more marketable than Mamouna and Taxi. The early Roxy albums always had that artist appeal combined with being very marketable and seductive. Would we have liked Frantic's artwork in 1987 as the cover of Bete Noire, so why not now? regards John O'Brien P.S. Reecey & Coleen, will you stop bringing up Cape Cod, just when my scars were dissapearing. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:24:10 -0800 (PST) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time in your mind - --- Grant Goggans wrote: > That doesn't make the artwork any less crap, though. > At least it's better > than the art for In Your Mind. And whats wrong with the artwork for "In your mind"..........??????? Aleks Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:33:16 -0500 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Music industry >Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:09:39 -0500 >From: "tmoq" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Ban >(following D. Firmin's posting of this link: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-022402grammy.story > > > >Well how about that? And all this time I thought it was due to the industry >flooding the market with oceans of mindless manufactured flavor-of-the >week >pop along with predictable and interchangeable metal/rap outfits. > >When I read statements like this...... >"In the short term, the industry is obsessed by a lack of star power. >"There's nervousness right now because we haven't seen a new crop of stars >like we've been having over the last couple of years," said Tom Calderone, >MTV senior vice president for music. "Whether it was Fred Durst (of Limp >Bizkit) or Kid Rock or Britney Spears or 'N Sync, we had wall-to-wall stars >for a while. . . . There are a lot of great songs out right now, but we >went >from superstars to a group of potential superstars." > >.........I pray the whole industry collapses. You'll notice it's only the suits making comments like that, because only the suits are that stupid. Sure, there have been grumbles about file sharing from some artists, but I have yet to see one artist stand up and blame piracy or file sharing for the poor sales of their latest album. Not even Michael Jackson is stupid enough to say "Invincible is my poorest-selling album because of people burning copies of it." (If I'm wrong, let me know; I'd love a good laugh.) And this Calderone man is the thickest brick in a very thick wall. Feed anyone a diet of the same thing and nothing but that same thing and they'll get sick of eating. For three years, there have been two types of music on MTV: teen-pop love songs and nu-metal videos with the camera on the floor and ugly white men in awkward poses leaning down into the lens and pointing two fingers at it while grimacing. Let's not delude ourselves that MTV was ever anything all that watchable, but at least when I was a teenager in the mid-late 80s, the channel had programming blocks for all sorts of music (Yo! MTV Raps, Headbangers Ball, Post Modern MTV, 120 Minutes, etc) and while their weekly top 20 may have had Guns n' Roses in the top five for something like thirteen months straight (one single after another), you'd see a decent balance of lots of different types of music. The MTV of 1987/88 put George Harrison and Robert Plant on top of the playlist; such an aberration would never happen now. Stupid music industry. - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:40:53 -0500 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] "Baby Blue" and the charts Far be it for this list to be accused of chart-fixing, but I'd like to do whatever I can to help get "Baby Blue" up the charts, and also have some copies of the new single to give as gifts or prizes to some potential Ferry converts. I don't, however, feel like paying exorbitant prices for imports - -- which probably wouldn't nudge the single any higher up the chart anyway. I'm looking to own six copies of "Baby Blue." If anyone in England is willing to buy me one, two, or what the heck, all six copies of the single (preferably from a chart return shop on the week of release), I'd be happy to send you a check for your expense, or alternately we can come up with some kind of swap for American product not available in England, or perhaps some goodies from my collection. Off-list replies only, please, to gmslegion@hotmail.com - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 05:44:42 -0800 (PST) From: Johnny Reece Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cruel ! ! ! wrote: > Came home after a weekend of Carnaval to discover > that my home has been > robbed. And for the second time my (almost) complete > colletion of Roxy > Music/Bryan Ferry cd's is STOLEN! Very, very cruel indeed Anton, I'm sorry to hear that. Will see if I can get them all replaced at cost price to you, through my shop here - although I have no idea how the UK prices compare to the Netherlands, but will give it a try and hope it helps. Will contact you offlist about that. Meanwhile, I'm sure all of us in Avalonia will help with replacing your 'live' recordings. You've come to the right place ! Reecey... Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:55:57 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Ban "There are no tickets or backstage passes left for me. I suppose I could learn to bite my tongue and by doing so charm my way into those situations (maybe under a fake name at this point, ahahaha). But I'd rather have the chance to speak freely than not." Please don't do that! Biting one's tongue hurts! I know - I did it once in first grade and needed a stitch! BTW, Colleen, don't change. I'd take the like of you any day over the like of a sucking syphon. Freedom to speak freely is much more valued than trinkets and junk passed around between the Emperor's clothiers and his subjects. Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:03:25 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Ban "I remember that. Such a shame that some jerk forced Bryan to have to make a statement when he had no control over that jackass." Oh yes, I remember that. And a pity it was, too, since it was the only opportunity Mr. Ferry had to write to his fans! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:09:30 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Ban "and you never, once, offered to tree it." Such are the advantages of not owning a burner. "And if you're going to bring up that argument that happened amongst all the Roxy people on Cape Cod following the Boston Gig, I really think that matter is best dropped now." Yes. Let's drop another lobster into the crab pot! Knew I should have called the police or humane society or something back then! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:23:42 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bantic fran OPPS! Caught you again! OK, I fess up - I too sometimes listen to BBC Radio 2 when web surfing. It is such a relief from commercial radio! [ Best wishes Richard Mills n/p BBC Radio 2 - ] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:22:12 EST From: OBrienFerry@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Ferry's Forum In a message dated Tue, 26 Feb 2002 9:02:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, KB Porter writes: > "I remember that. Such a shame that some jerk forced Bryan > to have to make a > statement when he had no control over that jackass." > > Oh yes, I remember that. And a pity it was, too, since it > was the only opportunity Mr. Ferry had to write to his fans! > very true it's a pity he had to use this as a rare oppertunity to address his fanbase. One thing in all that is that I think a lot of the blame in that incident is that Bryan is cocooned by the people around him who deliberately shield him from most of what goes on in the outside world as far as the fans go, good or bad. That incident was perpetuating for months and no one did anything about it. The forum was left as a 'chat among yourselves' forum and no one bothered to reply or answer any queries on there. J.O'B. (obviously on a long lunch) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:40:04 EST From: OBrienFerry@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Frantic Singles It's interesting to note that for the first time since the 'Windswept' EP, with the exception of 'If I Didn't Care' on the ATGB single that we are getting some extras with the singles. Since 1985 all we have had as extras were archive tracks, remixes of the same song & live versions of archive shows. Without hearing the tracks on the CD single to know if they are any good, I hope this trend continues with any addition singles from the 'Frantic' album. I had feared before hand that the CD singles might have contained live versions of the Roxy songs from the ATGB tour. As much as I would like quality sound board recordings of some of these gems, I am glad we have new titles on the single. J.O'B. (I better take an extra sandwhich if lunch is going to be this long tomorrow) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:07:17 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. Aw, you're all just bitter because there's no naked women on it. Spoiled little pukes! Leave something for the ladies, will ya? Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Goggans Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:11 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 01:26:18 -0000 >From: "thom.wallace" >Subject: [AVALON] Hat eating time. > >Aren't we due a bit of online hat eating, I seem to remember a few of our >membership being convinced that the artwork on vivaroxymusic.com was a >hoax... Sure. I'll happily eat my hat. I'd be first in line to do it, if I wasn't on the digest. I was convinced that was a hoax, and I was wrong. That doesn't make the artwork any less crap, though. At least it's better than the art for In Your Mind. - --Grant, munching happily until I got to the rim, which was made of thicker leather and folded three ways. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 07:42:45 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time in your mind I'm still not convinced. It's possible that's what Virgin is using in the interim until the real cover is available. If I'm wrong, I'll eat my hat with meatballs in a Panama style hat! http://pictures.care2.com/view/2/890567224 And what's wrong with the In Your Mind cover! Second only to "Another Time, Another Place"! David *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:23:12 -0500 From: "M" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time in your mind > I'm still not convinced. It's possible that's what Virgin is using in the > interim until the real cover is available. If I'm wrong, I'll eat my hat > with meatballs in a Panama style hat! I won't be eating any of my hats - they're custom-made! =P Waiting for the spring so that she can get a new spring/summer hat.... M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A young New Yorker called M Was frequently seen with old men Described as fantastic She preferred lots of plastic Especially Barbie and Ken. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:08:18 +0100 From: "kartor@libertysurf.fr" Subject: Re: [AVALON] european treeToronto 1975 (Blanks & Postage) Hello everybody in Europe non UK, thanks to Grant (I was in the 6 people..) I'm happy to announce the european branch of the Toronto 1975 CD tree..As usual, reply to me off list, and with 5 little euros, your hapiness will be complete... Caroline from Paris ps: poor Anton, just send me your details off list, and for you it will be free... > > > Grant Goggans wrote: > > Well, it's February and I intended to do this last month, but I'm > > behind. Sue me. This month's CD is Sonic Sirens, a Bite Me! > > Records double CD of Roxy Music -- and the Sirens -- performing live in > > Toronto in 1975. This is an average quality audience recording with > > some considerable crowd noise in places, but never enough to overshadow > > the awesome performance by the band, especially Eddie Jobson, who is > > truly incredible on this one. > > > > I am offering six further free copies of Sonic Sirens to list > > members. I'm expecting at least three of the people responding to > > commit that they will tree it on-list as well. *People who have agreed > > to tree it get their copies made first. If you tell me that you will > > tree it and you fail to do so, then I will not copy for you again. > > > > If you would like a copy of this boot, you must: > > > > 1. Be willing to send two good-quality blanks and a SASE for your copy. > > 2. Be one of the first six people to reply to this offer. > > 3. Tell me whether you're willing to make copies as well (about three or > > four, nothing maddening). > > 4. Reply by Friday the 22nd. > > 5. Understand that if you don't hear back from me, you must take my > > silence as a polite apology, that you were not one of the first six. > > (But you have nothing to lose in trying!) > > 6. Reply to me, and not the list. That would be silly. > > > > Grant > > > > __________________________________________________________ _______ > > > __________________________________________________________ _________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - -------------- Profitez de l'offre spiciale Tiscali Liberty Surf ! 50% de temps en plus pendant 3 mois sur tous les forfaits Internet. http://register.libertysurf.fr/subscribe_fr/signup.php3 ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:16:37 -0600 From: Susan Stekel Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hat eating time. At 09:07 AM 2/26/02 -0600, you wrote: >Aw, you're all just bitter because there's no naked women on it. Spoiled >little pukes! Leave something for the ladies, will ya? Paula As one of the ladies, let me say that if they take a perfectly good picture of B.F. and layer crappy crinkly texture over it, it doesn't work for me. Leave him pure and untarnished, I say. And as one of the skeptics, I have my hat and chopsticks ready to go. But I'm troubled that somewhere in all this, the issue of "skepticism of the validity of the cover art" and "skepticism of the validity of John O'Brien" have been conflated. I certainly meant no slight against JO'B in my comments -- him, I hold in highest esteem. My skepticism was aimed solely at the origination of the cover art. I had no knowledge of how that image came to John, who declared it was the official cover art (and not art for the project in general), who developed it in the first place, etc. I will ALWAYS be skeptical of a document/image/source in those circumstances. In my job, I work with many highly respectable and well-trusted rare book dealers -- but I'd still be a fool to fork out a lot of money for a document of questionable origin, without trying to obtain some background first. I'm saying all this for two reasons: 1. to clarify an important point in this issue, and 2. to offer a sincere apology to John O'Brien in case he did take personal offense at my skepticism. It certainly wasn't aimed at you, John, and you have my deepest apologies if you thought that it was. It was doltish of me not to make that clear in the first place. Best wishes, Susan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:46:36 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ten Bobs Worth >point has been made in the past that the fact that this album is made from fragments of other projects and this might make the album not flow as well as something that was written produced and recorded as a project with a singular direction. I agree with most of what you say, John, but would add the point that an album does not need to be an overarching suite of songs, essentially one work. Ten or twelve quite seperate pieces is perfectly acceptable to me. is that out-moded? Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:54:47 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Isle Of Wight Festival 2002 On 3rd June this year the Isle Of Wight festival returns for one day only. There will be 5 major acts, David Bowie is strongly tipped to be the headliner, with the Charlatans the only 100% confirmed act so far. Maybe Bryan could slip this into his schedule if approached? Sand between your toes has got to be better than the Glastonbury mudbath!!! SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:52:52 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Isle Of Wight Festival 2002 Oh, forgot to post that ages ago I read that Bowie is in charge of putting Meltdown together this year, wonder if he'll invite Bryan to reappear? - -----Original Message----- From: Simon Galloway [mailto:SIMONG@jazzfm.com] Sent: 26 February 2002 16:55 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Isle Of Wight Festival 2002 On 3rd June this year the Isle Of Wight festival returns for one day only. There will be 5 major acts, David Bowie is strongly tipped to be the headliner, with the Charlatans the only 100% confirmed act so far. Maybe Bryan could slip this into his schedule if approached? Sand between your toes has got to be better than the Glastonbury mudbath!!! SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:12:07 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Isle Of Wight Festival 2002 3rd of June is the same day as the Queen's Golden Jubilee Music event - another possibility. Glasto is at the end of June, tickets on sale now at about #115 for the weekend (although HITF access is much cheaper.) Chris PS A bit of good Somerset mud wont do you any harm Galloway, you bloody townie! ;0) . - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 4:52 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Isle Of Wight Festival 2002 > Oh, forgot to post that ages ago I read that Bowie is in charge of putting > Meltdown together this year, wonder if he'll invite Bryan to reappear? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Galloway [mailto:SIMONG@jazzfm.com] > Sent: 26 February 2002 16:55 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Isle Of Wight Festival 2002 > > > On 3rd June this year the Isle Of Wight festival returns for one day only. > There will be 5 major acts, David Bowie is strongly tipped to be the > headliner, with the Charlatans the only 100% confirmed act so far. Maybe > Bryan could slip this into his schedule if approached? Sand between your > toes has got to be better than the Glastonbury mudbath!!! > > SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:23:14 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Isle Of Wight Festival 2002 Did I ever tell you my Glastonbury story. AKA the day I forgot the sandwiches!!! SimonG Get off of my land!!!! >>> "Chris Turner" 02/26 5:12 pm >>> 3rd of June is the same day as the Queen's Golden Jubilee Music event - another possibility. Glasto is at the end of June, tickets on sale now at about #115 for the weekend (although HITF access is much cheaper.) Chris PS A bit of good Somerset mud wont do you any harm Galloway, you bloody townie! ;0) > -----Original Message----- > From: Simon Galloway [mailto:SIMONG@jazzfm.com] > Sent: 26 February 2002 16:55 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Isle Of Wight Festival 2002 > > > On 3rd June this year the Isle Of Wight festival returns for one day only. > There will be 5 major acts, David Bowie is strongly tipped to be the > headliner, with the Charlatans the only 100% confirmed act so far. Maybe > Bryan could slip this into his schedule if approached? Sand between your > toes has got to be better than the Glastonbury mudbath!!! > > SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:15:21 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Tour baseball caps taste horrible. At 01:59 AM 2/26/02, you wrote: >Just to clear up a few points: the text referring to vivaroxymusic.com on >the 'Frantic' sleeve on my web site was added by myself and not by anyone >in the Bryan Ferry management team, I doubt if that would ever happen. Of course! But it should. > >The web site is viewed by many people outwith this mailing list who don't >know me or my sense of humour Or anyone else's, sometimes! >and tend to accept the information as true. Therefore, John O'Brien might >take the Mickey now and again on a forum where a lot of people know him >but not on a web site where people only see what's on it and not the >people behind it. > >I am only glad that 'officialdom' now see that the flow of information to >the fans has a higher level of priority than before and I am only to happy >to convey that. I deliberately post only the link to the info rather than >copy/paste it to Avalon as I appreciate there are a lot of people still >want the element of surprise when buying the records etc. > I never doubted the veracity of your reporting and, as always, stand in awe of your website. Roxyrama is fantastic too, as is Grant's most entertaining site. Warmest regards, Nick N/P: RM/ Concord 8/5/01 Roxy Trade Page: http://boootlegs.com/roxy.htm Roxy Trade Page - Text Only: http://boootlegs.com/bootxt04.htm Other Trade Stuff: http://boootlegs.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #69 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest