From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #61 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, February 23 2002 Volume 07 : Number 061 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] But then again... [Chandla911@AOL.COM] [AVALON] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A=20=5BAVALON=5D=20But=20then=20again=2E=2E= 2E?= [philipcadams@lineo] Re: [AVALON] Ferry on Parky ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] Finish This One [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] (Wall) Streetlife ["M" ] Re: [AVALON] Fw: My 2 Cents [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] (Wall) Streetlife ["Arnold Schulberg" ] [AVALON] Fw: My 2 Cents ["One of the Grays" ] Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' [KWil632057@AOL.COM] Re: [AVALON] Finish This One [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Fw: My 2 Cents [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Fw: My 2 Cents ["One of the Grays" ] Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' ["One of the Grays" ] Re: [AVALON] Fw: My 2 Cents [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' ["One of the Grays" ] Re: [AVALON] Finish This One [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] Re: Finish this one ["Arnold Schulberg" ] Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' ["One of the Grays" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy inspired license plates [Helchat@AOL.COM] [AVALON] Frantic and the New Single ["Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" ] RE: [AVALON] Roxy Played [Karen Roth ] Re: [AVALON] Casanovas tree :-) ["Maggie Curran" ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic and the New Single ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' ["Judy Kaufman" ] Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' ["N. S. Koff" ] Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' ["Judy Kaufman" ] [AVALON] Frantic Artwork ["Chris Turner" ] [AVALON] Just a thought ["Kari Solberg" ] RE: [AVALON] Roxy Played ["Anthony Bird" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 04:29:50 EST From: Chandla911@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] But then again... >Thom thinks: "Is it only me who finds it strange that >Ferry's new album contains material that's mostly about 5 >years old?" But then again the five year old material is positively pristine next to the Richard Coeur de Lion track JA NUN HONS PRIS, which dates back almost a whole millennium (give or take a century) and THAT is one of the songs to which I'm most looking forward...that and a dozen others. Best wishes Richard Mills n/p BBC Radio 2 - damn, caught me again! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:43:44 +0000 From: philipcadams@lineone.net Subject: [AVALON] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A=20=5BAVALON=5D=20But=20then=20again=2E=2E= 2E?= I think what we really want is a couple of tracks that move - not since Bete Noire has he really pushed that side. Philip - -- Original Message -- >>Thom thinks: "Is it only me who finds it strange that >>Ferry's new album contains material that's mostly about 5 >>years old?" > >But then again the five year old material is positively pristine next to >the >Richard Coeur de Lion track JA NUN HONS PRIS, which dates back almost a whole > >millennium (give or take a century) and THAT is one of the songs to which >I'm >most looking forward...that and a dozen others. > >Best wishes >Richard Mills > >n/p BBC Radio 2 - damn, caught me again! > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:41:41 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry on Parky - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry on Parky > I have, on good authority, news that Ferry is 'very likely' to appear on the > Parkinson show in late March.......... > > > Jonathan Now that could be great, Parkinson is gentle and clever interviewer, I've not watched the last few "Parkies" because of the poor quality of the guests, by this I mean the likes of the Beckams and their like. Parkinson was quite a good supporter of ATGB, often playing tracks from it on his Sunday morning show. It may also mean Bryan may premier a new song or two live, (please don't let him sing Jealous Guy again). Terry "O" Good contestant on the radio 2 quiz this morning. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 07:41:22 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: Fw: [AVALON] Just a thought. Colleen correctly claims: "... for the purposes of _Frantic_--does it really matter as long the quality is there?" Absolutely - great music is timeless, and Mr. Ferry's track record has proven its worth. I look forward to this release with cash in one hand and cd player in the other! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:19:07 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Finish This One Arnie asks: "... potassium ferryocyanide, a chemical that ????" Oh let's see. According to "Vogel's Qualitative Inorganic Analysis", potassium ferrocyanide = potassium hexacyanoferrate(II). "The hexacyanoferrate(II) ion being a complex ion does not give the typical reactions of iron(II). The iron present in such solutions may be detected by decomposing the complex ion by boiling the solution with concentrated sulphuric acid in a fume cupboard with good ventilation, when carbon monoxide gas is formed (together with hydrogen cyanide, if potassium cyanide is present in excess): ..." So based on Vogel, I'd say 'potassium ferryocynide' is pure poison, doesn't behave like the average rock star icon ion, and anyone experimenting with this complex matter does so at their own risk (EMT should be present)! :) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:41:16 -0500 From: "M" Subject: Re: [AVALON] (Wall) Streetlife > ...and now for some financial news. Shares in Bryan Ferry have risen in > light of the announcement of Frantic: > > http://music.hsx.com/servlet/DetailTrade?symbol=BFERY HSX is BAD. I used to play on the movie stock exchange and it was very addictive. I quit and have no idea how my portfolio is doing. M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A young New Yorker called M Was frequently seen with old men Described as fantastic She preferred lots of plastic Especially Barbie and Ken. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:35:43 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fw: My 2 Cents From One Of The Grays: "... So, like the anticipation of Mamouna, I would like to think that our Bryan has penned enough original material to compliment one album/CD (I still have a turntable) which he can call his own!" Dear John, I too would like to think that Bryan Ferry has penned enough (publishable) materiel to complete one disk for release. I'm hanging onto the hope such a disk will be hot on the heels of "Frantic". My fingers are crossed, and I'm saying my prayers (even though I am not of The Latter Day Saints persuasion). KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:32:31 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: Re: [AVALON] (Wall) Streetlife > HSX is BAD. I used to play on the movie stock exchange and it was very > addictive. I quit and have no idea how my portfolio is doing. > > Yeah, what a timewaster it could be. Some people obviously have too much time on there hands. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:35:58 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Finish This One > Arnie asks: "... potassium ferryocyanide, a chemical that > ????" > What I was asking for was along the lines of: Potassium ferryocyanide, a chemical that never is satisfied with its mix, or Potassium ferryocyanide, a chemical that shows no signs of aging, etc., etc. Ferryocyanide, not ferrocyanide. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:40:00 -0500 From: "One of the Grays" Subject: [AVALON] Fw: My 2 Cents "Later Day Saints" was a reference to the old crowd who have been Roxy/Ferry followers since 1971/72. I think my Scottish humour has dried up since I moved to North America! - ----- Original Message ----- From: One of the Grays To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:18 AM Subject: Fw: My 2 Cents Sent this message out a few weeks ago. I must admit, I was expecting some kind of backlash from the "Later Day Saints" of the group. Please tell me someone else out there thinks that Ferry is past his due date! - ----- Original Message ----- From: One of the Grays To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: My 2 Cents Just thought I'd post a message about my thoughts on Ferry's upcoming release. I've been a "fan" since Roxy's inception way back in 1972, followed them, Ferry, 801 and The Explorers all over the world, but there comes a time when commercialism overtakes fanatisism. I used to spend fortunes buying singles, LPs, bootlegs etc. and have a pretty good collection of original material. I still spend fortunes buying their material! However, I cannot understand how Ferry can feel accomplished and expect respect and acknowledgement for his works when he has released only four (4) albums/CDs which are entirely his own penmanship, collaborated with others in some regards. Namely: In Your Mind Boys and Girls Bette Noire and Mamouna Every other official release has cover versions. I stand to be corrected and apologise where necessary. So, like the anticipation of Mamouna, I would like to think that our Bryan has penned enough original material to compliment one album/CD (I still have a turntable) which he can call his own! When you think of all the "collections" that have been released over the years, surely they are not that desperate for cash to entice saps like you and I to buy these "Greatest Hits", "The Ultimate Collection", "The Atlantic Years", "The Best Of....", "The Best of The Ballads",....... While admitting that Roxy's 2001 concerts were the highlight of my musical experiences since Simple Minds played Massey Hall, Ferry's Mamouna concert came close but....I think that we are due more than 5 or 6 original six songs, written with others, and a few more covers. Hopefully Frantic will give us bit more for our money than Ferry's usual 35 to 40 minutes of recordings that took him 5 years to put together! Thanks for your patience and understanding....... John Gray ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:42:08 EST From: KWil632057@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' What has been utterly ignored by those members of the list who are grumbling about the fact that the songs are less than recent is that to most people they are new songs. The public at large dont follow Ferry to the extent that we do. So there. Jonathan n/p silence ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:45:46 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Finish This One Reread me post Arnie! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:51:42 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fw: My 2 Cents [ "Later Day Saints" was a reference to the old crowd who have been Roxy/Ferry followers since 1971/72. ] The above reference is lost on me, please explain. Thank you. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:53:24 -0500 From: "One of the Grays" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fw: My 2 Cents As I said, it was meant to be a stab at humour. See, KBP must be North American! Forget it, just enjoy the music, albeit old and recycled! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "KB Porter" To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fw: My 2 Cents > [ "Later Day Saints" was a reference to the old crowd who > have been Roxy/Ferry > followers since 1971/72. ] > > The above reference is lost on me, please explain. Thank > you. KBP > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:00:24 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' "What has been utterly ignored by those members of the list who are grumbling about the fact that the songs are less than recent is that to most people they are new songs." With the possible exception of a few members, the songs on "Frantic" are new to all of us! The 'age' of the song isn't the issue - quality is quality. What is remarkable is the very long period of time that has elapsed with the production and release of original material! If there is so much 'in the can' why hasn't more of it been released over the past decade? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:56:55 -0500 From: "One of the Grays" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' I think Ferry would gain more respect and admiration from "new" fans by recording something original rather than a bunch of songs that my mother can remember way back in the 70's or whenever! PS: I'll still buy the CD as I'm a glutton for punishment! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' > What has been utterly ignored by those members of the list who are grumbling > about the fact that the songs are less than recent is that to most people > they are new songs. The public at large dont follow Ferry to the extent that > we do. > > So there. > > Jonathan > > n/p silence > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:02:55 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fw: My 2 Cents "KBP must be North American!" Oh thanks for the explanation! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:01:05 -0500 From: "One of the Grays" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' - ----- Original Message ----- From: "KB Porter" To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' > "What has been utterly ignored by those members of the list > who are grumbling > about the fact that the songs are less than recent is that > to most people > they are new songs." > > With the possible exception of a few members, the songs on > "Frantic" are new to all of us! > > The 'age' of the song isn't the issue - quality is quality. > What is remarkable is the very long period of time that has > elapsed with the production and release of original > material! If there is so much 'in the can' why hasn't more > of it been released over the past decade? Precisely my point!! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:12:23 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Finish This One Ferryocyanide, not ferrocyanide. Arnie apologies are acceptable, Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:23:56 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, KB Porter wrote: > What is remarkable is the very long period of time that has elapsed with > the production and release of original material! If there is so much > 'in the can' why hasn't more of it been released over the past decade? I would suspect that as Mr. Ferry has had problems with both management and with securing recording contracts in that situation he may have found it easier to get records released with all or mostly covers. It will be interesting to see how the sales of _Frantic_ compare with those of _As Time Goes By_. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:28:44 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, One of the Grays wrote: > I think Ferry would gain more respect and admiration from "new" fans by > recording something original rather than a bunch of songs that my mother > can remember way back in the 70's or whenever! '"[N]ew" fans'?--come on now. He's 56 years old. It's not like he's poised for the top of the charts. And can someone please tell me what the heck is going on with all this carping about songs people haven't even heard? Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:58:39 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Finish this one KBP wrote: So based on Vogel, I'd say 'potassium ferryocynide' is pure poison, doesn't behave like the average rock star icon ion, and anyone experimenting with this complex matter does so at their own risk (EMT should be present)! :) Sorry, KBP, I was so overwhelmed by the quote from the Vogel book that my eyes glazed over and I missed the humorous analogy. Thanks for playing along. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:06:33 -0500 From: "One of the Grays" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' Hi Colleen, Come on now, regardless of age, if a product (CD, album, single or whatever) is introduced to the public, surely there has to be some inclination that the originator is looking to impress non-fanatics like us Avalonians, or is Ferry just going through the motions to appease the masses? As I said, I will no doubt buy the CD but will it be on my top ten play list, I don't know, but I'm sure I would enjoy listening to new, original, unheard of, music? Yes, it's great to hear old songs being reproduced in a different manner but it's even better to hear something that I haven't heard before. When Roxy first appeared on the music scene in 1972, it was a a breathtaking experience. Most people just shook their heads wondering what all the noise was about, but it was original and exhilarating and was a distant cry from the run-of-the-mill crap that was being forced down our throats via radio and TV. Roxy and Bowie set the standards for music the way it should be played for the purists. When you listen to the early Roxy albums, have you ever heard anyone playing music like that, so diverse but meaningful? I know a lot of Avalonians got into Roxy/Ferry later on but have they listened to and appreciated the early material? I'd much rather listen that than a re-run of Bob Dylan's monotone tunes! Hey, it's just my comments but I'd love to hear feedback from anyone else who has an opinion. Thanks and regards, John - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' > On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, One of the Grays wrote: > > > I think Ferry would gain more respect and admiration from "new" fans by > > recording something original rather than a bunch of songs that my mother > > can remember way back in the 70's or whenever! > > '"[N]ew" fans'?--come on now. He's 56 years old. It's not like > he's poised for the top of the charts. > > And can someone please tell me what the heck is going on with all this > carping about songs people haven't even heard? > > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:15:24 EST From: Helchat@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy inspired license plates CPL593H is unavailable in California. When I first discovered Roxy, I wanted Misfit2 because of the lyrics in Three and Nine (3AND9), which is available, as is AHVALON, 4YRPLSR, (my husband said I shouldn't get that one) and many others. the link to check in California is http://plates.ca.gov/ Helene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:57:35 -0000 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: [AVALON] Frantic and the New Single > Thom thinks: "Is it only me who finds it strange that > Ferry's new album contains material that's mostly about 5 > years old?" Thom, you said some months back that you'd heard some new Ferry material which was of a very high quality. Is this on Frantic as far as you know? I mentioned to someone the other week that with the majority of songs being from the Dave Stewart sessions plus a significant number of covers, it didn't sound like the album I was expecting. Perhaps we'll get 'that' next year? But anyway, let's not get too negative, it's a new album and I'm looking forward immensely to 15 April. Is the single still out 4 March? Anyone heard it on the Radio yet! Regards Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 11:41:24 EST From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] New Single Track Listing The track listing for the new single is on vivaroxymusic.com. It includes a new song 'Smoke Dreams' J.O'B'. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 18:07:51 -0000 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic and the New Single - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:57 PM Subject: [AVALON] Frantic and the New Single > Thom, you said some months back that you'd heard some new Ferry material > which was of a very high quality. Is this on Frantic as far as you know? This is some of the material I heard a couple of years back. However it has supposedly been re-recorded since then so I'll find it interesting to hear what has been done to it and whether it has been totally re-recorded or just had overdubs added to change the sound rather than the style of the tracks. When I was first told about the Roxy reformation talks in 2000 I was also told that one option for a Roxy album would be to take some of these tracks and re-work them with Manzanera and Mackay. I don't know if this was seriously looked at, but the tour certainly did happen. > I mentioned to someone the other week that with the majority of songs being > from the Dave Stewart sessions plus a significant number of covers, it > didn't sound like the album I was expecting. Perhaps we'll get 'that' next > year? When you add the covers that have been recorded in demo form since the summer of 2000 there is enough material for two albums of the "Frantic" kind. I wouldn't be overly surprised if we were to get a second album by the end of this year or at latest early 2003, but that is only my personal thought. I really think the material from the Ferry/Stewart sessions is on the whole of a very high quality and should have been released before now. I do wonder why there seems to be a need to fill it out with covers of Dylan tracks unless you want to issue two albums or as I mentioned they wanted to get the material that has leaked out issued to get some cash in from it. That in no way is meant to infer that Frantic will be a disappointment, but just different from what I expected. Btw, I think that the track 'Smoke Dreams' may be one of the outtakes from the tracks that were recorded for "ATGB", the title does seem to ring a bell, having said that it could also be another of the tracks from the Ferry/Stewart sessions, after all we are talking about material that I heard once near on two years ago and there was a lot to try and take in. Cheers, Tom. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:07:52 -0500 (EST) From: "" Subject: [AVALON] SOTW: Help Me A great song, full of atmosphere with some lovely guitar work from Nile Rogers. Pervaded by a theme of loss Ferry's writing powers are display, the lyrics ringing true both universally and for the films central character (an insect). The song unleashes with the lines "Bricks without a mortar, tearing me apart". A stylish video shot in b&w, just as the fly would see things, with Ferry holding his arm and turning his head in a mirror image of the character from the film. Drew - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:33:24 -0900 From: Karen Roth Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy Played boarding an airplane after spending a fabulous Christmas time in Mexico last year, I heard "More Than This" and thought how appropriate it was. why was 6 afraid of 7? because 7 8 9! have a good weekend, Karen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:27:28 -0500 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Casanovas tree :-) Hi Danny, I'll mail you a copy of Roxy "Edizioni di Milano" 24/09/01 next week. Please e-mail me your snail mail address offline. You can name the next one! Maggie lalagrand@hotmail.com >From: "The Bogus Man" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: >Subject: [AVALON] Casanovas tree :-) >Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 07:39:37 +0100 > >that's ok for me > >the title could be >made in italy >it's an ideal of beauty > >LOL > >bogus man but dan > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Maggie Curran" >To: >Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:58 AM >Subject: [AVALON] Looking for Bogus Man & Cecilia > > > > Hi Danny and Cecilia, > > Have the Roxy Milan Concert now and think you should be the top > > branch on the tree. If I sent a copy to one of you, could you be the > > tree distributor for Europe except UK? I'm calling this tree "Edizioni > > di Milano" -- Milan's take on Editions of You. Heather has the artwork > > and says she will be putting it up on her page when time permits. > > Having listened to the CDs, I understand why you two spoke so highly of >this > > show. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 21:19:40 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic and the New Single In 1997 that tousel-haired tomboy k.d. lang produced an album called Drag, which was in praise of smoking. Track three was called Smoke Dreams. Of course it might be a different song altogether, but the song does date from the mid-1940's. The co-writer Ted Steele was a prominent bandleader of the time. To me it's a very 'BF' lyric though. Incidentally, there is at least one photo from the ATGB era which shows BF smoking, which is at odds with the assertion that he made in the Jan 2000 online chat that he had given up some years before. Smoke Dreams (John Klenner/Lloyd Shaffer/Ted Steele) Smoke dreams From smoke rings While a cigarette burns I keep yearning for you Through smoke dreams From smoke rings That old feeling returns Can't believe that we are through I try to pretend our love has ended But my heart tells me no The dreams I resist won't be dismissed Though I try to forget with each cigarette Still smoke rings Bring smoke dreams And although you are gone Our love story goes on I try to pretend our love has ended But my heart tells me no The dreams I resist won't be dismissed Though I try to forget with each cigarette Still smoke rings Bring smoke dreams And although you are gone Our love story goes on Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "thom.wallace" To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic and the New Single > > Btw, I think that the track 'Smoke Dreams' may be one of the outtakes from > the tracks that were recorded for "ATGB", the title does seem to ring a > bell, having said that it could also be another of the tracks from the > Ferry/Stewart sessions, after all we are talking about material that I heard > once near on two years ago and there was a lot to try and take in. > > Cheers, > Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 21:35:43 +0000 From: "Telford Man" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry on Parky Thanks - I'd like to think he'll do this as it's a show that reaches a big audience. I was surprised he didn't do the show when promoting ATGB because big band music is right up Parky's street - indeed tracks from ATGB get a played fairly frequently on his Sunday morning show on Radio 2. >From: KWil632057@aol.com >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry on Parky >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:25:44 EST > >I have, on good authority, news that Ferry is 'very likely' to appear on >the >Parkinson show in late March.......... > > >Jonathan > >n/p Bob Dylan 'It's All Over Now, Baby Blue' > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 18:32:56 -0600 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' >From: "One of the Grays"> >I'll still buy the CD as I'm a glutton for punishment! If a new release from Bryan Ferry is *punishment*, count me among the chained and bound. Perhaps he will also consider punishing Texas residents with a live appearance. Judy NP: (I Love It When You) Call Me Names - Joan Armatrading _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:05:31 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' At 04:32 PM 2/22/02, you wrote: >>From: "One of the Grays"> > >>I'll still buy the CD as I'm a glutton for punishment! > > >If a new release from Bryan Ferry is *punishment*, count me among the >chained and bound. Perhaps he will also consider punishing Texas residents >with a live appearance. If he's really cruel, maybe he'll spend the week. Warmest regards, Nick N/P: Funky Chick / BF and the Roxy Musickers Roxy Trade Page: http://boootlegs.com/roxy.htm Roxy Trade Page - Text Only: http://boootlegs.com/bootxt04.htm Other Trade Stuff: http://boootlegs.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 19:52:08 -0600 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 'New Material' >From: "N. S. Koff" >If he's really cruel, maybe he'll spend the week. We have an extra room. He's welcome to move in here for a while. . . or longer. Judy (hoping my husband won't object) _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 02:49:32 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Frantic Artwork The artwork is now confirmed. It appears on Virgin's German website. Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 05:20:51 +0100 From: "Kari Solberg" Subject: [AVALON] Just a thought >Could it be that there was a change of mind about the contents of this >album after most of these tracks appeared on a bootleg about 6 >months back. February 23, 2000! This was 2 years ago today - in Jam! Music: Roxy Music's Bryan Ferry and Brian Eno have reunited to collaborate with Eurythmics' Dave Stewart and Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood for Ferry's upcoming solo album. The Radiohead fan website followmearound.com quotes an interview with Ferry in the Dutch newspaper "Volksrant" saying the four are working together on a new album, which they say will be released "in a few months." Kari ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:45:15 -0800 From: "Anthony Bird" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy Played My turn! Got "The Main Thing" played at my favorite club haunt, and got to see the pretty people groove sexy-like. Me, and the missus loved it! Also a friend of mine said to me that he's heard songs off of Avalon all the years he's been out(began his Roxy fandom on the Avalon tour when he was in college), but never that one. Given that, that one is probably the most "dance friendly" I can only ever wonder why... :) >From: Karen Roth >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: "'avalon@smoe.org'" >Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy Played >Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:33:24 -0900 > >boarding an airplane after spending a fabulous Christmas time in Mexico >last >year, I heard "More Than This" and thought how appropriate it was. > >why was 6 afraid of 7? because 7 8 9! > >have a good weekend, Karen > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #61 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest