From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #58 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, February 20 2002 Volume 07 : Number 058 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Re: way way off Topic ;- Techno Nerd ["Philip Adams" ] [AVALON] Frantic Lyrics mon amour ["The Bogus Man" ] [AVALON] Rula Lenska on Andy [David Firmin ] [AVALON] Photo Me [Bahi ] Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Frantic Cover ["S Clarke" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:19:31 -0000 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: [AVALON] Re: way way off Topic ;- Techno Nerd Tony De Vit RIP - my big regret was that I missed his 12 hour sets at Trade. That was Warp Factor Nine stuff. Philip > I love hard house (also Progressive House), I used to DJ many years ago and > worked with the late/great Tony de Vit, before he became one of the first > pioneers of hard house, he and I were both big fans of Patrick Cowley, who > was one of the original Hi-Energy producers. > > Terry "O" > > NP: Never Lost his Hardcore/ NRG. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:30:56 -0500 From: David Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Lyrics Once again, movies are a very strong influence. Thanks, John. At 02:23 PM 2/19/2002 -0500, you wrote: >The lyrics to all the songs on Frantic can be found here:- > >http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/2302 > >Each song on the album page has a link to more info on the song and at the >bottom of that page is a link, 'view the lyrics' > >John O'Brien > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 22:36:01 +0100 From: "The Bogus Man" Subject: [AVALON] Frantic Lyrics mon amour My bloody highlander .-)) god bless ya heaven knows how u can do that .-))))))))) thanx u a lot damage dan > The lyrics to all the songs on Frantic can be found here:- > > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/2302 > > Each song on the album page has a link to more info on the song and at the > bottom of that page is a link, 'view the lyrics' > > John O'Brien ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:35:42 -0000 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers I've looked again at the cover art on the vivaroxymusic. site . I can understand better what's been done to the image. Previously I thought it a simple re-pro photograph. Now it takes on an air of intrigue, like the Bete Noire cover. Philip > Isn't the "image frozen in time" the point here ? I've suggested this > Wildean theme a couple of times since Jock portrayed the cover on his site a > few weeks ago. The cover art for an album that was never released, > Horoscope, had a roman statue of Bryan, crumbling, as if time had chiselled > away at the beautiful image. (You may recall this statue featured on the > BBC2 Richard Hamilton piece.) So, in a sense, he's returning to the theme of > ageing, loss, artifice and faded glory. Classic themes methinks. > > Martino > > > > > ---------- > From: "Philip Adams" > To: > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers > Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 10:39 pm > > > Was I wrong to use the word "fraud"? I'm not sure. All I know is that I've > followed Ferrys music for a long time. And his image has been as important > as the music, both for him and for his listeners. And that image has evolved > as he ( and we ) have grown older. If this picture is indeed the cover of > the new album then its presenting the artist as a 40-something, smoking > lounge lizard. Fine , I have said before on this list that he looked his > best , IMHO, at the time when this picture was taken [ the late 80's] . > But he' s now in his mid fifties, clearly ageing, greying and also mature - > as a human being and as an artist. > > > I'm not pre-judging the album's content. I still see it as a welcome > addition to his body of work. I'm not saying the cover should reflect the > contents - arguments about it not being frantic enough are ridiculous. > > For an artist who , from the word go, has always worked hard on album > cover artwork this cover is just lazy. My point is if you're going to have > your picture on the sleeve make it a recent one, unless you're doing the > Dorian Grey thing. > > > Philip > > > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Philip Adams wrote: > > > > > If they're going to put a photograph of the artist on the cover of a new > > > release surely it has to be a contemporary one. Its a fraud otherwise. > > > On a compilation you could get by with an old shot but not on a long > > > awaited "new" release. > > > > How does an old photo make the music in that album or its release > > fraudulent? What about albums which don't feature the artist(s) at all on > > the cover? Is say _OK Computer_ any less valid because Thom and the boys > > aren't front and center? There's got to be some album where the artist(s) > > used an old photo of themselves and presented new music--are those albums > > frauds too? Would it help if somewhere on the inside there was a more > > recent photo of Mr. Ferry? > > > > I don't mean to sound snarky--I am a historian by training and I am > > interested in issues of "real" v. "fake" and now they've emerged on the > > list so I have to ask questions. I honestly can't understand how a "new" > > photo signifies that the album is legitimate. If we find out that this > > isn't the new cover and the new cover has a recent photo of Mr. Ferry, > > will that really relieve some people? Will it make you look more > > positively on the music? > > > > I look at album covers, I read liner notes, but what I see on the the > > cover of an album has never affected my opinion of what I heard on that > > album. Different strokes, &tc. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:24:01 -0500 From: "M" Subject: [AVALON] From Jam! Showbiz: http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic/feb18_ferry-can.html Eno, Roxy drummer play on Ferry solo album By JAM! Music Bryan Ferry follows up his recent Roxy Music reunion tour with a new solo album due out in April. "Frantic," which is helmed by "Avalon" producer Rhett Davies, also marks the first studio collaboration between Ferry and Roxy drummer Paul Thompson in 20 years. Ex-Roxy member Brian Eno contributes vocals and keyboards to the track "I Thought," Virgin Records said in a press release. The set includes Ferry originals such as "Nobody Loves Me," "Cruel" and the Marilyn Monroe-inspired "Goddess Of Love". The latter two tracks were ,co-written with Eurythmics' Dave Stewart. Other titles include "San Simeon" (the name of industrialist Randolph Hearst's palatial home) and "Hiroshima," inspired by the French film classic "Hiroshima, Mon Amour." Two Bob Dylan covers -- "Don't Think Twice, It's Alright" and "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" -- are included, and showcase Ferry's harmonica playing. Don Nix's "Goin' Down" and Leadbelly's "Goodnight Irene" are also covered. The unlikeliest cover is "Ja Hun Hons Pris," an ancient song credited to Richard The Lionheart. Guitarist Chris Spedding, who played with Ferry in the '70s, also plays on "Frantic." Here's the track list for "Frantic": It's All Over Now Baby Blue Cruel Goin' Down Goddess of Love Don't Think Twice Nobody Loves Me Ja Hun Hons Pris Fool For Love Goodnight Irene Hiroshima San Simeon One Way Love I Thought ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:55:47 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Rula Lenska on Andy Rula Lenska did a little Q & A. I asked her about Andy Mackay. She wrote: I was and am a huge fan of Andy's and it was a privilege and a joy working with him. He became a close personal friend and though we do not see much of each other at the moment we always stay in touch. I thought his music for the show was fab. and for me the whole composing side of the songs and the rehearsals, and harmonising of vocals was very very exciting. http://www.therockfollies.co.uk/rula.html *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:24:08 +0000 From: Bahi Subject: [AVALON] Photo Me - --------------- begin "A mate of mine used to manage Bryan Ferry, for his sins. One time he was going to America, the car was outside his house waiting to take him to the airport and he wouldn't come out. The manager gets on to Bryan and Bryan says,"I can't go, I don't have a passport." The manager tells him that the documentation had been collected from him and the passport had been delivered to his house. Ferry says, "Well, I don't have the passport. It's been torn up and thrown in the dustbin." "What do you mean it's been torn up?" asks the manager. "Well," says Ferry, "I didn't like the photo that you used." - ---------------- end I've heard a few stories of this kind, on various subjects, always derogatory and always credited to Ed Bicknell. I don't know whether the 'mate' referred to here is him or another on the growing list of list of Bryan's ex-managers. B ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:10:22 +1100 From: "S Clarke" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Frantic Cover - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Frantic Cover > Incidentally what have we all been asking at the cash for questions at Q magazine? > > Jonathan This was my question for Bryan: 'Over the years I have heard (and enjoyed) the immense creativity that goes into your music and lyrics but, since you must have had a certain visual arts talent to make you want to go to art school in the first place, are you now a practising visual artist?' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 01:14:08 -0000 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: [AVALON] Just a thought. So when is a new album not a new album? When it's one by Bryan Ferry. Is it only me who finds it strange that Ferry's new album contains material that's mostly about 5 years old? OK, so the material has supposedly been re-recorded, but you would have thought the some more recent Ferry compositions would have crept in there somewhere. Instead we get three cover versions that were first tried out during the summer of 2000 between shows on the ATGB/STL tour. From the 1993 Taxi sessions: Goodnight Irene From the 1996-98 Stewart/Eno sessions Cruel Goddess of Love Nobody Loves Me Fool For Love Hiroshima San Simeon One Way Love I Thought Since 2000 It's All Over Now Baby Blue Don't Think Twice Goin' Down Could it just be that there was a change of mind about the contentsof this album after most of these tracks appeared on a bootleg about 6 months back. It would certainly explain the cover design and the contradictory release dates that were advertised by various on-line shops, then again it's pretty late and I need some sleep. Cheers, Tom. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #58 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest