From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #57 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, February 19 2002 Volume 07 : Number 057 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Frantic Cover [Lyn ] Re: [AVALON] ROIO [David ] Re: [AVALON] ROIO [KB Porter ] [AVALON] From NME: ["M. Taylor" ] [AVALON] New CD Tree: Cirque Royal (Brussels 2000) ["Webwolf" ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers ["Philip Adams" ] Re: [AVALON] New CD Tree: Cirque Royal (Brussels 2000) ["Webwolf" ] [AVALON] A Rhapsody Divine ["alison smith" ] Re: [AVALON] ROIO [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Techno Nerd ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] RE: [AVALON] A Rhapsody Divine ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] [AVALON] Concrete Blonde's "Roxy" [David Firmin ] [AVALON] cover art [Lyn ] [AVALON] no avalon digest [Lyn ] [AVALON] Frantic Lyrics [OBrienFerry@AOL.COM] Re: [AVALON] Frantic Lyrics [] Re: [AVALON] Frantic Lyrics ["anotherphotographer" Subject: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Frantic Cover Many many opinions on this album cover. . .here's mine I do like the font--it is very Edgar Allen Poe-ish-reminds me of someone frantically scrabbling against a wall or coffin lid--bloody fingertips and nails after having been walled-up/buried alive--I am sure you will remember Poe's obsession with this theme--catalepsy. The photo of Bryan appears to me to have an underwater look --the "marbling " reminds me more of air bubbles being blown underwater-drowning?/ frantically trying to breathe? at any rate it compounds the claustrophic feel that the font generates. At any rate--why would you expect Bryan to produce an album cover that followed the current trend???--he has always taken an individual approach to his image--never followed the pack--why start now --at 56? and yes I am a designer Lynn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 09:58:37 -0500 From: David Subject: Re: [AVALON] ROIO Don't discount the middle east- one of the largest music-buying audiences on the globe. It's gotten to where it's difficult even to find legit releases, because all of the regular stores only carry bootlegs. At 06:40 PM 2/17/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Speaking of counterfeits, if nobody's had the chance to see first hand >what a mammoth operation the Latino music counterfeiters have going, I'll >tell you, it is one gigantic, impressive criminal enterprise. The volume >I saw at the flea market this morning would stun an RIAA attorney stone dead. >--Grant Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 10:21:38 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] ROIO OH! And let's not forget the East! - And, I wouldn't be surprised to see something come out of Antarctica, either. Can't discount those penguins now, can we? [ Don't discount the middle east- one of the largest music-buying audiences on the globe. It's gotten to where it's difficult even to find legit releases, because all of the regular stores only carry bootlegs. At 06:40 PM 2/17/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Speaking of counterfeits, if nobody's had the chance to see first hand >what a mammoth operation the Latino music counterfeiters have going, I'll >tell you, it is one gigantic, impressive criminal enterprise. ] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:50:15 +0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: [AVALON] From NME: Nothing too incredibly exciting. M http://www.nme.com/news/100802.htm RADIOHEAD STAR GETS ON BOARD WITH FERRY! RADIOHEAD guitarist JONNY GREENWOOD has contributed to the first BRYAN FERRY solo album in eight years. 'Frantic' is released on 15 April in the UK. Greenwood contributed to the track 'Hiroshima', while other collaborators include Brian Eno, who supplies backing vocals and keyboards on new song 'I Thought'. The album from the former Roxy Music star also includes covers of two Bob Dylan tracks, 'Dont Think Twice (It's Alright)' and 'Its All Over Now Baby Blue'. The tracklisting runs: 'It's All Over Now Baby Blue' 'Cruel' 'Goin' Down' 'Goddess of Love' 'Don't Think Twice (It's Alright)' 'Nobody Loves Me' 'Ja Hun Hons Pris' 'Fool For Love' 'Goodnight Irene' 'Hiroshima' 'San Simeon' 'One Way Love' 'I Thought' Ferry will tour in June. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:10:21 -0800 From: "Webwolf" Subject: [AVALON] New CD Tree: Cirque Royal (Brussels 2000) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Goggans To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:27 AM Subject: [AVALON] New CD Tree: Cirque Royal (Brussels 2000) > What the heck, let's do another B&P offering, shall we? This week's CD is > Cirque Royal, a Bryan Ferry show from Brussels in Feb. 2000 which > was recorded for Belgian TV and which was, once upon a time, passed down a > VHS video tree. The performance also made its way to a bootleg company > called Switch On! Devil Kwsk, who have been selling a nicely packaged silver > CD for some time. But we're not selling this, we're offering it freely by > trade, and if anyone does start acting like Switch On and sell it, then > we're gonna set Bill MacCormick on you with a hickory stick. > > I am offering six further free copies of Cirque Royal to list > members. I'm expecting at least three of the people responding to commit > that they will tree it on-list as well. > > If you would like a copy of this boot, you must: > > 1. Be willing to send a good-quality blank and a SASE for your copy. > 2. Be one of the first six people to reply to this offer. > 3. Tell me whether you're willing to make copies as well (about three or > four, nothing maddening). > 4. Reply by Friday the 18th. > 5. Understand that if you don't hear back from me, you must take my silence > as a polite apology, that you were not one of the first six. (But you have > nothing to lose in trying!) > 6. Reply to me, and not the list. That would be silly. > > Grant > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:13:49 +0100 From: "The Bogus Man" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Frantic Cover well when he did the bride stripped bare the folder of the album was like the casanova single folder him in the switzerland mountains... but he wanted a more "punk" folder so we have the package we all know in some way following the wave.... maybe he could use an opning folder in a better way than waste with a similar cinema inner sleeve LOL dan fellini about the frantic one mmhhhhh i think it's a joke like the cover of as time goes by that was running the web 2 years ago :.-) or i could be disappointed LOL > Many many opinions on this album cover. . .here's mine > > I do like the font--it is very Edgar Allen Poe-ish-reminds me of someone > frantically scrabbling against a wall or coffin lid--bloody fingertips > and nails after having been walled-up/buried alive--I am sure you will > remember Poe's obsession with this theme--catalepsy. > The photo of Bryan appears to me to have an underwater look --the > "marbling " reminds me more of air bubbles being blown > underwater-drowning?/ frantically trying to breathe? at any rate it > compounds the claustrophic feel that the font generates. At any > rate--why would you expect Bryan to produce an album cover that followed > the current trend???--he has always taken an individual approach to his > image--never followed the pack--why start now --at 56? > and yes I am a designer > Lynn > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:13:57 -0800 From: "Webwolf" Subject: [AVALON] New CD Tree: Cirque Royal (Brussels 2000) Thanks to Grant (thanks, Grant) there is a new tree offering! Bryan Ferry at the Cirque Royal in Brussels! If you are interested, contact me off list at webwolf@nwi.net Once again, this is a FREE offering done out of love for Roxy and Bryan Ferry! Thanks, Brian ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:51:16 EST From: Chandla911@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] This from Eden... Following last year's successful Roxy Music reunion tour and greatest hits, the main man, Bryan Ferry himself is back with a solo album, Frantic, featuring his first new material album since 1994. Whether you're one of the Ferry die-hards or new to the game, Frantic promises much. Under the watchful eye of Avalon and As Times Goes By producer, Rhett Davies, Bryan is on top - and versatile - form. As well as featuring classic Ferry cuts, the album sees him flirting with bluesy rock and country swing and it includes two tracks co-written by Dave Stewart of Eurythmics fame and two Bob Dylan classics. Frantic appears on April 15th, 2002. Check into Eden news ( http://eden.vmg.co.uk/news/index.html ) for the full story. Best wishes Richard Mills n/p BBC Radio 2 - don't get me wrong, I do listen to music on CD but I always seem to be listening to the radio at the moment when I write to Avalon. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:12:35 -0500 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New CD Tree: Cirque Royal (Brussels 2000) But somebody spend their money to purchase the CD and to make it available to Grant free of charge who is then happy to trade with you. Let's not forget the person who had to come up with the hard cold cash to make these treasures available to Grant, etc. A little appreciation would be in order IMO. Maggie >From: "Webwolf" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: >Subject: [AVALON] New CD Tree: Cirque Royal (Brussels 2000) >Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:13:57 -0800 > >Thanks to Grant (thanks, Grant) there is a new tree offering! > >Bryan Ferry at the Cirque Royal in Brussels! > >If you are interested, contact me off list at webwolf@nwi.net > >Once again, this is a FREE offering done out of love for Roxy and Bryan >Ferry! > >Thanks, >Brian > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:41:46 -0500 From: David Subject: Re: [AVALON] ROIO KB, just stop in a Latino or Pakistani store sometime and check out the music section. You'll see what we're talking about. At 10:21 AM 2/18/2002 -0500, you wrote: >OH! And let's not forget the East! - And, I wouldn't be >surprised to see something come out of Antarctica, either. >Can't discount those penguins now, can we? > >[ Don't discount the middle east- one of the largest >music-buying audiences >on the globe. It's gotten to where it's difficult even to >find legit >releases, because all of the regular stores only carry >bootlegs. > >At 06:40 PM 2/17/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >Speaking of counterfeits, if nobody's had the chance to see first hand > >what a mammoth operation the Latino music counterfeiters have going, I'll > >tell you, it is one gigantic, impressive criminal enterprise. ] > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:27:54 -0000 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers Colleen If they're going to put a photograph of the artist on the cover of a new release surely it has to be a contemporary one. Its a fraud otherwise. On a compilation you could get by with an old shot but not on a long awaited "new" release. Philip > . I'm also interested in the idea that the photo is objectionable > to some because it's old. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:35:47 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Philip Adams wrote: > If they're going to put a photograph of the artist on the cover of a new > release surely it has to be a contemporary one. Its a fraud otherwise. > On a compilation you could get by with an old shot but not on a long > awaited "new" release. How does an old photo make the music in that album or its release fraudulent? What about albums which don't feature the artist(s) at all on the cover? Is say _OK Computer_ any less valid because Thom and the boys aren't front and center? There's got to be some album where the artist(s) used an old photo of themselves and presented new music--are those albums frauds too? Would it help if somewhere on the inside there was a more recent photo of Mr. Ferry? I don't mean to sound snarky--I am a historian by training and I am interested in issues of "real" v. "fake" and now they've emerged on the list so I have to ask questions. I honestly can't understand how a "new" photo signifies that the album is legitimate. If we find out that this isn't the new cover and the new cover has a recent photo of Mr. Ferry, will that really relieve some people? Will it make you look more positively on the music? I look at album covers, I read liner notes, but what I see on the the cover of an album has never affected my opinion of what I heard on that album. Different strokes, &tc. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:53:55 -0800 From: "Webwolf" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New CD Tree: Cirque Royal (Brussels 2000) Yikes! OK, thanks to that person too!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Maggie Curran To: Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] New CD Tree: Cirque Royal (Brussels 2000) > But somebody spend their money to purchase the CD and to make it > available to Grant free of charge who is then happy to trade with you. > Let's not forget the person who had to come up with the hard cold cash > to make these treasures available to Grant, etc. A little appreciation > would be in order IMO. > > Maggie > > > >From: "Webwolf" > >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org > >To: > >Subject: [AVALON] New CD Tree: Cirque Royal (Brussels 2000) > >Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:13:57 -0800 > > > >Thanks to Grant (thanks, Grant) there is a new tree offering! > > > >Bryan Ferry at the Cirque Royal in Brussels! > > > >If you are interested, contact me off list at webwolf@nwi.net > > > >Once again, this is a FREE offering done out of love for Roxy and Bryan > >Ferry! > > > >Thanks, > >Brian > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >The subliminable footer says: > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:39:09 -0000 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers Was I wrong to use the word "fraud"? I'm not sure. All I know is that I've followed Ferrys music for a long time. And his image has been as important as the music, both for him and for his listeners. And that image has evolved as he ( and we ) have grown older. If this picture is indeed the cover of the new album then its presenting the artist as a 40-something, smoking lounge lizard. Fine , I have said before on this list that he looked his best , IMHO, at the time when this picture was taken [ the late 80's] . But he' s now in his mid fifties, clearly ageing, greying and also mature - as a human being and as an artist. I'm not pre-judging the album's content. I still see it as a welcome addition to his body of work. I'm not saying the cover should reflect the contents - arguments about it not being frantic enough are ridiculous. For an artist who , from the word go, has always worked hard on album cover artwork this cover is just lazy. My point is if you're going to have your picture on the sleeve make it a recent one, unless you're doing the Dorian Grey thing. Philip > On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Philip Adams wrote: > > > If they're going to put a photograph of the artist on the cover of a new > > release surely it has to be a contemporary one. Its a fraud otherwise. > > On a compilation you could get by with an old shot but not on a long > > awaited "new" release. > > How does an old photo make the music in that album or its release > fraudulent? What about albums which don't feature the artist(s) at all on > the cover? Is say _OK Computer_ any less valid because Thom and the boys > aren't front and center? There's got to be some album where the artist(s) > used an old photo of themselves and presented new music--are those albums > frauds too? Would it help if somewhere on the inside there was a more > recent photo of Mr. Ferry? > > I don't mean to sound snarky--I am a historian by training and I am > interested in issues of "real" v. "fake" and now they've emerged on the > list so I have to ask questions. I honestly can't understand how a "new" > photo signifies that the album is legitimate. If we find out that this > isn't the new cover and the new cover has a recent photo of Mr. Ferry, > will that really relieve some people? Will it make you look more > positively on the music? > > I look at album covers, I read liner notes, but what I see on the the > cover of an album has never affected my opinion of what I heard on that > album. Different strokes, &tc. > > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:44:41 -0800 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] From NME: - ----- Original Message ----- From: M. Taylor To: Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 7:50 AM Subject: [AVALON] From NME: Glad to see Bry using some new blood for Frantic. I thought Johnny Marr, previously of The Smiths, was a valuable contributor to Bette Noire. Keith NP: More Than This / Robyn Hitchcock > Nothing too incredibly exciting. > M > > > http://www.nme.com/news/100802.htm > > RADIOHEAD STAR GETS ON BOARD WITH FERRY! > > RADIOHEAD guitarist JONNY GREENWOOD has contributed to the first BRYAN FERRY > solo album in eight years. > > 'Frantic' is released on 15 April in the UK. Greenwood contributed to the > track 'Hiroshima', while other collaborators include Brian Eno, who supplies > backing vocals and keyboards on new song 'I Thought'. > > The album from the former Roxy Music star also includes covers of two Bob > Dylan tracks, 'Dont Think Twice (It's Alright)' and 'Its All Over Now Baby > Blue'. > > The tracklisting runs: > > 'It's All Over Now Baby Blue' > 'Cruel' > 'Goin' Down' > 'Goddess of Love' > 'Don't Think Twice (It's Alright)' > 'Nobody Loves Me' > 'Ja Hun Hons Pris' > 'Fool For Love' > 'Goodnight Irene' > 'Hiroshima' > 'San Simeon' > 'One Way Love' > 'I Thought' > > Ferry will tour in June. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:08:48 +0000 From: "alison smith" Subject: [AVALON] A Rhapsody Divine >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: "avalon-digest@smoe.org" >Subject: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] > > > >______________________________________________________________________ __I finally got around to watching "A Rhapsody Divine" with some friends and what fun it was! But a few questions came up that we would love to know the answers to, can anyone help? How was BF's appearance on the Cilla Black show received at the time by the media and fans? Why in the performance on Supersonic was BF wearing an eye patch? Was it an affectation or a medical condition? Is there any further information on the appearance of BF on the Kenny Everett show. Again, how was it received at the time? Alison >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:34:21 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] ROIO David, I know! I guess my point, delivered in a tease, is counterfeit music is a thriving business world wide. Heck, I'm not too sure that all the stuff I've bought at legitimate record shops in the U.S. are the real thing! Best wishes. KBP [ KB, just stop in a Latino or Pakistani store sometime and check out the music section. You'll see what we're talking about. ] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:35:50 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Techno Nerd Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Techno Nerd > I read the title of this post and I thought some one else on the list had > a penchant for banging techno...hard house..... > > Philip > -- Original Message -- Hi Philip, I love hard house (also Progressive House), I used to DJ many years ago and worked with the late/great Tony de Vit, before he became one of the first pioneers of hard house, he and I were both big fans of Patrick Cowley, who was one of the original Hi-Energy producers. Terry "O" NP: Never Lost his Hardcore/ NRG. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:47:19 EST From: KWil632057@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Uncut this month NICO John Cale, Brian Eno and Phil Manzanera on the life and times of the original Velvet Underground chanteuse. should be interesting J n/p Seinfeld ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:22:56 +0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers Isn't the "image frozen in time" the point here ? I've suggested this Wildean theme a couple of times since Jock portrayed the cover on his site a few weeks ago. The cover art for an album that was never released, Horoscope, had a roman statue of Bryan, crumbling, as if time had chiselled away at the beautiful image. (You may recall this statue featured on the BBC2 Richard Hamilton piece.) So, in a sense, he's returning to the theme of ageing, loss, artifice and faded glory. Classic themes methinks. Martino - ---------- From: "Philip Adams" To: Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers Date: Mon, Feb 18, 2002, 10:39 pm Was I wrong to use the word "fraud"? I'm not sure. All I know is that I've followed Ferrys music for a long time. And his image has been as important as the music, both for him and for his listeners. And that image has evolved as he ( and we ) have grown older. If this picture is indeed the cover of the new album then its presenting the artist as a 40-something, smoking lounge lizard. Fine , I have said before on this list that he looked his best , IMHO, at the time when this picture was taken [ the late 80's] . But he' s now in his mid fifties, clearly ageing, greying and also mature - as a human being and as an artist. I'm not pre-judging the album's content. I still see it as a welcome addition to his body of work. I'm not saying the cover should reflect the contents - arguments about it not being frantic enough are ridiculous. For an artist who , from the word go, has always worked hard on album cover artwork this cover is just lazy. My point is if you're going to have your picture on the sleeve make it a recent one, unless you're doing the Dorian Grey thing. Philip > On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Philip Adams wrote: > > > If they're going to put a photograph of the artist on the cover of a new > > release surely it has to be a contemporary one. Its a fraud otherwise. > > On a compilation you could get by with an old shot but not on a long > > awaited "new" release. > > How does an old photo make the music in that album or its release > fraudulent? What about albums which don't feature the artist(s) at all on > the cover? Is say _OK Computer_ any less valid because Thom and the boys > aren't front and center? There's got to be some album where the artist(s) > used an old photo of themselves and presented new music--are those albums > frauds too? Would it help if somewhere on the inside there was a more > recent photo of Mr. Ferry? > > I don't mean to sound snarky--I am a historian by training and I am > interested in issues of "real" v. "fake" and now they've emerged on the > list so I have to ask questions. I honestly can't understand how a "new" > photo signifies that the album is legitimate. If we find out that this > isn't the new cover and the new cover has a recent photo of Mr. Ferry, > will that really relieve some people? Will it make you look more > positively on the music? > > I look at album covers, I read liner notes, but what I see on the the > cover of an album has never affected my opinion of what I heard on that > album. Different strokes, &tc. > > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:35:15 -0800 (PST) From: Johnny Reece Subject: [AVALON] Re: A Rhapsody Divine - --- alison smith wrote: > How was BF's appearance on the Cilla Black show > received at the time by the > media and fans? It was something of a surprise. Looking at it now, it is wonderfully cringeworthy. But it was fairly common around that time for artists to promote their new Albums on primetime Saturday night TV shows (Cilla, Twiggy, Russell Harty etc). > Why in the performance on Supersonic was BF wearing > an eye patch? Was it an > affectation or a medical condition? As far as I know, it was an infection. Good image though ! > Is there any further information on the appearance > of BF on the Kenny > Everett show. Again, how was it received at the > time? If you're thinking about the short spoof interview, then Kenny often did that sort of thing with guests. It's one of my favourite pieces from that time. But commercially at that point, Ferry was struggling. The Roxy appearance on KE though was more exciting, as they did 'Midnight Hour' which everyone automatically thought would be the next single. TGPT on drums too for that appearance. Reecey... Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:42:06 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] A Rhapsody Divine >Why in the performance on Supersonic was BF wearing an eye patch? Was it an affectation or a medical condition? He'd scratched his cornea, which if you've ever done, you'll know is excruciating. >Is there any further information on the appearance of BF on the Kenny Everett show. Again, how was it received at the time? That appeared on the Kenny Everett Show at midnight on New Year's Eve (to see the New Year in). I remember running back from the pub to see the show and then running back again for a good old Geordie New year's lock-in afterwards (never heard of video recorders in those days where I lived!). Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:02:32 -0000 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Stockman" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers > few weeks ago. The cover art for an album that was never released, > Horoscope, had a roman statue of Bryan, crumbling, as if time had chiselled > away at the beautiful image. (You may recall this statue featured on the > BBC2 Richard Hamilton piece.) So, in a sense, he's returning to the theme of > ageing, loss, artifice and faded glory. Classic themes methinks. > Ok, where-o-where can I feast my eyes upon this artwork? I MUST see it! Regards Neil ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:15:24 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Ream Subject: [AVALON] Audiogalaxy Treasures I've fallen behind on my Avalon digests and while catching up have seen two recent topics converge. Sorry if I'm repeating a point made in my remaining unread digests, but.... Like a few others here, I'm a big fan of the late, lamented band Deaf School from the late 1970s and though I can't find their CDs anywhere I recently found all of their excellent "Second Honeymoon" album and parts of the "Can't Stop the World" and "English Boys/Working Girls" albums on mp3 via Audiogalaxy and now have a dandy copy of "Second Honeymoon" with a dozen or so "bonus tracks". Only flaw I've heard so far is an abruptly shortened version of the song "Working Girls" (such a shame). Found a nice scan of the Second Honeymoon album cover on the web too. I'd be glad to offer this CD in trade or via B&P to any Avalonians who'd like a copy. Or help yourself with Audiogalaxy. - --Dan Ream Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 09:44:13 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Concrete Blonde's "Roxy" Hear it here. http://www.concreteblonde.org/music.htm Nice. *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:53:39 -0500 From: Lyn Subject: [AVALON] cover art Many many opinions on this album cover. . .here's mine I do like the font--it is very Edgar Allen Poe-ish-reminds me of someone frantically scrabbling against a wall or coffin lid--bloody fingertips and nails after having been walled-up/buried alive--I am sure you will remember Poe's obsession with this theme--catalepsy. The photo of Bryan appears to me to have an underwater look --the "marbling " reminds me more of air bubbles being blown underwater-drowning?/ frantically trying to breathe? at any rate it compounds the claustrophic feel that the font generates. At any rate--why would you expect Bryan to produce an album cover that followed the current trend???--he has always taken an individual approach to his image--never followed the pack--why start now --at 56? and yes I am a designer Lynn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:55:01 -0500 From: Lyn Subject: [AVALON] no avalon digest Hi there--I did not receive my digest today and my posts have not been appearing? any idea why? cheers Lynn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:23:31 EST From: OBrienFerry@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Frantic Lyrics The lyrics to all the songs on Frantic can be found here:- http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/2302 Each song on the album page has a link to more info on the song and at the bottom of that page is a link, 'view the lyrics' John O'Brien ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:26:54 -0500 From: Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Lyrics John.......Hooray to you and Emm. Once again you have out did yourself. A very sincere thank you for all your hard work. All the best John Dillon - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 2:23 PM Subject: [AVALON] Frantic Lyrics > The lyrics to all the songs on Frantic can be found here:- > > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/2302 > > Each song on the album page has a link to more info on the song and at the > bottom of that page is a link, 'view the lyrics' > > John O'Brien > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:20:47 -0000 From: "anotherphotographer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Lyrics Hi I Remember my father (or some one) singing Good night Irene. and There was a verse that went something like; "Last Saturday night I got married (And?) me and wife settled down Now me and my wife are parted I'm goin'a take another stroll round town." Irene goodnight, Irene good . . . is this not featured? did I dream it? . . I'm getting old I guesssss goodnight Irene goo. . . regards young ernie - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:23 PM Subject: [AVALON] Frantic Lyrics > The lyrics to all the songs on Frantic can be found here:- > > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/2302 > > Each song on the album page has a link to more info on the song and at the > bottom of that page is a link, 'view the lyrics' > > John O'Brien > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #57 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest