From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #54 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, February 16 2002 Volume 07 : Number 054 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Techno Nerd [Chandla911@AOL.COM] [AVALON] Bob Dylan in Uncut March 2002 ["Caroline Torterat" ] RE: [AVALON] Bob Dylan in Uncut March 2002 ["Guy Lawley" ] Re: [AVALON] RE: Frantic Cover [KWil632057@AOL.COM] Re: [AVALON] Impolite behaviour [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Got My Big Feet In The Window... [KB Porter ] [AVALON] New Songs ["Han Snijders" ] Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Techno Nerd [David ] Re: [AVALON] ROIO release rumor ["Maggie Curran" ] [AVALON] OT: Sylvian tickets [David ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] OT: Sylvian tickets ["mark shanahan" ] RE: [AVALON] OT: Sylvian tickets ["Heather James" ] Re: [AVALON] Impolite behaviour [bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick)] Re: [AVALON] Bob Dylan in Uncut March 2002 [Avalon887@AOL.COM] [AVALON] Re: Frantic [MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.)] Re: [AVALON] Re: Frantic [David Firmin ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 04:43:35 EST From: Chandla911@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Techno Nerd How does the computer or whatever it is decide when to send out the digest version of Avalon? In simple terms, please... It's just that the digest seems quite regular and I receive mine around 9am GMT, but then once in a while, there'll be a second digest with about 4 items about half an hour later. What triggers the send function? Why the erratic versions with just a few messages rather than wait until the next day? OK, it's my most boring and nerdy question to date. But I am intrigued, er mildly interested.... Best wishes Richard Mills n/p BBC Radio 2, but still no sign of Baby Blue... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:28:34 +0100 From: "Caroline Torterat" Subject: [AVALON] Bob Dylan in Uncut March 2002 Bob Dylan, in his interview , says: "It's no accident that other singers have had better hits with my songs than I have, because they've sensed there's a structure to them. I've never been allowed to develop that, working with slipshod producers or fakes or a bunch of nonenties.." Perhaps that explains the years....for Bryan to find the "structure" ;-) ! Caroline ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 06:13:54 -0500 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers >Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:21:39 -0500 (EST) >From: Colleen Matan >Subject: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers > >OK, now I'm curious. What would folks either (1) do to the existing >_Frantic_ cover to change it or (2) propose instead? Confession. My dislike of this album cover partially stems from this fact: about two days before its unveiling on John's site, I used this very same image myself for the front sleeve of a ROIO CD which naturally now won't go beyond the rough draft stage unless this is unmasked as a hoax. Petulant jealousy aside, therein lies the crux of my complaint -- if I could make this sleeve, then it has no business in record shops selling Bryan Ferry's official product. First problem: The photo is fifteen years old. Ferry, his management and his record company have a big advantage over amateur designers like myself: they can take new pictures of him for album covers. Their budget probably extends to taking pictures of him in elegant surroundings or evocative cities and surrounded by glamorous models. More pressingly, having named an album "Frantic," they could take a photograph which conveys urgency and desperation, which this photo does not convey. I see nothing frantic about watching a man blow smoke rings. I believe Avalon, Boys and Girls, Bete Noire, Taxi and As Time Goes By all have sleeves which, with varying degrees of success, relate the atmosphere intended by the album's contents. This doesn't say "frantic." Second problem: Whatever filter they stuck over the image doesn't say "frantic" either. It says "weird LSD bubble projection as seen to much better effect on the back cover of The Velvet Underground & Nico." Third problem: Covering 30% of the available space with a black bar looks very dated, like a Depeche Mode single from 1987. Does covering the image enhance its power, or is the image's power enhanced by restricting it to 70% of the space? The answer to both is no. Fourth problem: That font is the silliest and least appropriate font I've seen in ages. It doesn't say "frantic;" it says "count duckula." Working in reverse, if Bry insisted that I design the cover using that photo, I'd first use a font with harsh, sharp lines, bold, but with a 5-degree slope. The black bar has no business cutting the image vertically, but a case could be made for a far thinner bar running horizontally across the bottom. If filtered at all, it doesn't need to be that blobby thing, but something angular. Unfortunately, the smoke doesn't lend itself to "angular." None of which addresses the first problem: The original photograph isn't frantic, and it doesn't speak of Bryan Ferry in 2002. A new photo shoot is what's needed here. - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:08:10 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bob Dylan in Uncut March 2002 "Never been allowed...."??????? What, Bob, you poor dear, is there a conspiracy against you? "Slipshod producers, nonentities..." Bob, who hired these people??? And if they turned out to be so bad, why didn't you junk the sessions and start over (like a certain Mr F of local renown)? And the likes of The Band.... are they fakes or merely nonentities? Could it be that other people had bigger hits because they did songs in a pop or rock style which the public could latch on to more easily than your uncompromising approach allowed? I've seldom heard such self-justifying, false victim-status-claiming crap from anyone, even in the BS-ridden world of "rock" interviews. My respect for the man just went down a notch... though his glory days will remain glorious!! Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Caroline Torterat Sent: 16 February 2002 10:29 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Bob Dylan in Uncut March 2002 Bob Dylan, in his interview , says: "It's no accident that other singers have had better hits with my songs than I have, because they've sensed there's a structure to them. I've never been allowed to develop that, working with slipshod producers or fakes or a bunch of nonenties.." Perhaps that explains the years....for Bryan to find the "structure" ;-) ! Caroline ________________________________________________________________________ ___ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 06:39:07 EST From: KWil632057@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bob Dylan in Uncut March 2002 I think we can put that down to a rare showing of Dylan humour. Jonathan In a message dated 16/02/02 11:24:15 GMT Standard Time, organism-001@supanet.com writes: > "Never been allowed...."??????? > > What, Bob, you poor dear, is there a conspiracy against you? > > "Slipshod producers, nonentities..." > > Bob, who hired these people??? And if they turned out to be so bad, why > didn't you junk the sessions and start over (like a certain Mr F of > local renown)? And the likes of The Band.... are they fakes or merely > nonentities? > > Could it be that other people had bigger hits because they did songs in > a pop or rock style which the public could latch on to more easily than > your uncompromising approach allowed? > > I've seldom heard such self-justifying, false victim-status-claiming > crap from anyone, even in the BS-ridden world of "rock" interviews. > > My respect for the man just went down a notch... though his glory days > will remain glorious!! > > Guy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:58:19 -0300 From: philipcadams@lineone.net Subject: [AVALON] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A=20=5BAVALON=5D=20Frantic=20Cover?= The only recent cover that didn4t look like a BF album was "Mamouna". Whilst I like the cover of this album it would4nt jump off the racks to the general public. "look, ire darling that4s that Bryan Ferry". This new album looks like it was dine by the same crowd that did the last three compilations. It is amateurish and why use a very old photograph? Who4s so vain? Philip - -- Original Message -- >I like it too! The problem with Boys and Girls, Bete Noire, Mamouna and > >even Taxi was that they are not easily recognisable as a BF album. From a > >marketing point of view this one is much better. > >Han > > > >But from a design point of view it's substandard Foundation Course for an >HND course (which translated Han, means amateurish to say the least!) > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >The subliminable footer says: > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:04:06 -0300 From: philipcadams@lineone.net Subject: [AVALON] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A=20=5BAVALON=5D=20Techno=20Nerd?= I read the title of this post and I thought some one else on the list had a penchant for banging techno...hard house..... Philip PS anyone know what4s going to be on the new single? Maybe a council house remix? Christ , was that 9 years ago? - -- Original Message -- >How does the computer or whatever it is decide when to send out the digest > >version of Avalon? In simple terms, please... > >It's just that the digest seems quite regular and I receive mine around 9am > >GMT, but then once in a while, there'll be a second digest with about 4 items > >about half an hour later. What triggers the send function? Why the erratic > >versions with just a few messages rather than wait until the next day? > >OK, it's my most boring and nerdy question to date. But I am intrigued, er > >mildly interested.... > >Best wishes >Richard Mills > >n/p BBC Radio 2, but still no sign of Baby Blue... > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:06:53 -0300 From: philipcadams@lineone.net Subject: [AVALON] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A=20=5BAVALON=5D=20Frantic=20Slipcovers?= wish I4d read this earlier. Well said, Grant. Ferry4s stopped smoking, hasn4t he? The cover4s a hoax Philip - -- Original Message -- >>Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:21:39 -0500 (EST) >>From: Colleen Matan >>Subject: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers >> >>OK, now I'm curious. What would folks either (1) do to the existing >>_Frantic_ cover to change it or (2) propose instead? > >Confession. My dislike of this album cover partially stems from this fact: > >about two days before its unveiling on John's site, I used this very same > >image myself for the front sleeve of a ROIO CD which naturally now won't >go >beyond the rough draft stage unless this is unmasked as a hoax. > >Petulant jealousy aside, therein lies the crux of my complaint -- if I could > >make this sleeve, then it has no business in record shops selling Bryan >Ferry's official product. > >First problem: The photo is fifteen years old. Ferry, his management and > >his record company have a big advantage over amateur designers like myself: > >they can take new pictures of him for album covers. Their budget probably > >extends to taking pictures of him in elegant surroundings or evocative >cities and surrounded by glamorous models. More pressingly, having named >an >album "Frantic," they could take a photograph which conveys urgency and >desperation, which this photo does not convey. I see nothing frantic about > >watching a man blow smoke rings. I believe Avalon, Boys and Girls, Bete > >Noire, Taxi and As Time Goes By all have sleeves which, with varying degrees > >of success, relate the atmosphere intended by the album's contents. This > >doesn't say "frantic." > >Second problem: Whatever filter they stuck over the image doesn't say >"frantic" either. It says "weird LSD bubble projection as seen to much >better effect on the back cover of The Velvet Underground & Nico." > >Third problem: Covering 30% of the available space with a black bar looks > >very dated, like a Depeche Mode single from 1987. Does covering the image > >enhance its power, or is the image's power enhanced by restricting it to >70% >of the space? The answer to both is no. > >Fourth problem: That font is the silliest and least appropriate font I've > >seen in ages. It doesn't say "frantic;" it says "count duckula." > >Working in reverse, if Bry insisted that I design the cover using that >photo, I'd first use a font with harsh, sharp lines, bold, but with a >5-degree slope. The black bar has no business cutting the image vertically, > >but a case could be made for a far thinner bar running horizontally across > >the bottom. If filtered at all, it doesn't need to be that blobby thing, > >but something angular. Unfortunately, the smoke doesn't lend itself to >"angular." > >None of which addresses the first problem: The original photograph isn't > >frantic, and it doesn't speak of Bryan Ferry in 2002. A new photo shoot >is >what's needed here. > >--Grant > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:09:27 EST From: KWil632057@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Frantic Cover I think Bryan looks great on the new cover and certainly a lot more attractive to the general public than he looks now. Incidentally what have we all been asking at the cash for questions at Q magazine? Jonathan n/p Fonzi Thornton 'Baroque Classics' In a message dated 16/02/02 12:59:32 GMT Standard Time, philipcadams@lineone.net writes: > > The only recent cover that didn4t look like a BF album was "Mamouna". > Whilst > I like the cover of this album it would4nt jump off the racks to the > general > public. "look, ire darling that4s that Bryan Ferry". > > This new album looks like it was dine by the same crowd that did the last > three compilations. > > It is amateurish and why use a very old photograph? Who4s so vain? > > Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:12:34 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Techno Nerd An interesting question. Ferry's early Beatle-inspired policy of releasing new material as b-sides lapsed in the early Nineties, when his cupboard was at its barest. With a ton of stuff in the can, this would be a great time to return to old habits Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Techno Nerd > > PS anyone know what4s going to be on the new single? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 05:23:51 -0800 (PST) From: Johnny Reece Subject: [AVALON] RE: Frantic Cover Didn't someone mention a while back, that Bryan was in Berlin in January, for a photo-shoot ? Reecey... Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:50:37 EST From: KWil632057@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Frantic Cover In a message dated 16/02/02 13:25:30 GMT Standard Time, reecey593@yahoo.co.uk writes: > Didn't someone mention a while back, that Bryan was in > Berlin in January, for a photo-shoot ? > I think that was publicity shots as opposed to cover material. Jonathan n/p Ednah Holt 'Ednahs Phat Beats' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:34:39 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Impolite behaviour "As to the 'need' for bootlegging because the band won't release the soundboard and other tapes they have, frankly there are currently two of us who are the only hope anyone has of getting this stuff out there. I have put proposals to PM which he is broadly happy with." Assuming the both of you are watertight, the band's ship may have dry rot in its hold! Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:39:00 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Got My Big Feet In The Window... "but done to perfection by the sublime J.J. Cale, who has provided Ferry with more than a little inspiration..." Really! Your post took me back to '73 and my surviving lp's. True, J.J. Cale's style isn't the same old blues - it's sublime. Indeed, many artists have more than just a little inspiration thanks to Mr. Cale. - If all trailer park trash were such a treasure... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:48:37 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bob Dylan in Uncut March 2002 [Bob Dylan, in his interview , says: "It's no accident that other singers have had better hits with my songs than I have, because they've sensed there's a structure to them. I've never been allowed to develop that, working with slipshod producers or fakes or a bunch of nonenties.."] Thanks for reporting that, Caroline. Dylan is full of crap if he really believes what he is quoted as saying above from this interview! "I've never been ALLOWED ... " Bullshit! He's been privileged all his life - he has had more access to more things than most know. I hope I have misunderstood the above. PS. Just read Guy's input, and I totally agree! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:02:18 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slip "what is this cover supposed to represent?? it's a literal interpretation of what 'frantic' is supposed to mean?? ... what it's missing is some kind of kernel of truth to it - - whatever it's supposed to be about. it seems someone involved isn't too sure and that's the problem(?)." Sounds like you've just described the enigmatic Bryan Ferry. I suppose he's frantic because he is, as Pete likes to remind us, running out of time? "the most wonderful Roxy covers evoked sex and glamour, taken to an extreme and placed in various settings." Like two poodles with glitter painted nails and rhinestone collars procreating at the cabaret? - For Colleen's visual imagery, you understand. Guy, if you don't eat your breakfast, you could always feed it to the hungry pooches ;^) Philip asks: "Who4s so vain?" and "Ferry4s stopped smoking, hasn4t he?" Bryan Ferry! that's who. And, yes, ages ago! And, finally, Grant, you have put forth a very coherent argument - my compliments to you. Now. I'm off to see the Exotic Gustaf! Best wishes, KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 16:03:48 +0100 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: [AVALON] New Songs You can hear snippets of the new songs of Frantic in the versions of the artist below. going down by JJ Cale http://cdnow.com/switch/from=cr-9635397-1/target=buyweb_purchase/itemid=4542 94 Good night Irene by Lead Belly http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=573514561/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.h tml/artistid=LEADBELLY/itemid=491060 Drifters One Way Love http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=573514561/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.h tml/artistid=DRIFTERS/itemid=582215 Dylan Don't think twice and It's all over now baby blue. http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=573514561/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/popsear ch.html/clickID=tn_srch_txt Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:51:56 -0500 From: David Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: [AVALON] Techno Nerd My guess would be more of a chilled global mix. Or just a single mix- seems you can't play album versions on the Beeb... At 10:04 AM 2/16/2002 -0300, you wrote: >Philip > >PS anyone know what4s going to be on the new single? Maybe a council house >remix? Christ , was that 9 years ago? Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:55:35 -0500 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: Re: [AVALON] ROIO release rumor Grant, Please define ROIO. I assume it has something to do with remastering of original material? Help! Thanks, Maggie >From: "Grant Goggans" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: [AVALON] ROIO release rumor >Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:00:15 -0500 > >I've had an e-mail from an occasional correspondant that Switch On! Devil >KWSK, the large Japanese firm known for all the pretty Bowie silver ROIOs, >and 2000's "Cirque Royal," have either released or are releasing a CD >called >"First Edition" of the 6/11/01 Glasgow FM broadcast, without the poor >indexing that marred the recent Italian digipak release of that show. > >Anyone who can supply more information and, preferably, some artwork, is >invited to drop The Strictly Confidential Archive a line so the page can be >updated accordingly. Anonymity assured. > >http://www.geocities.com/popocalypse/ferryboot3.html > >--Grant > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:58:30 -0500 From: David Subject: [AVALON] OT: Sylvian tickets SECOND row, ON the floor, FRONT and (nearly) center... Yeh, I'm bragging, so what of it? Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:06:03 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Slipcovers I'm interested by the idea that the album cover has to have something to do with the title, and that somehow the cover as is isn't "frantic" enough. I'm also interested in the idea that the photo is objectionable to some because it's old. Would the album be even better served if there were a rebus on the cover (maybe "[a fan + R] and then [a tick - K]")? And if the feeling among some is that there has to be an newer, (i.e., more realistic) picture of Mr. Ferry on the cover as that is somehow more authentic, does that also mean the snap of him on the cover should also be unretouched? Does the fact that he is smoking on the cover when he no longer smokes somehow affect the music? Does it help if me made some of the music on the album while he was smoking? Are album covers supposed to be some simple illustration of the album's title and are they supposed to serve as current identification for the artist (say, if perhaps their passport gets stolen they can just show the album cover as ID instead)? Or is cover art, well, art? Curious, Colleen (who (1) has a passport photo which looks handtinted and which is the envy of passport control officers everywhere and (2) unlike during The _Pastiche_ Episode, has not called the _Frantic_ cover art a hoax) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:18:51 -0800 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: Sylvian tickets >From: David >SECOND row, ON the floor, FRONT and (nearly) center... >Yeh, I'm bragging, so what of it? speaking of that ... as just a reminder to those so inclined, tickets just went on sale for chicago about 15 minutes ago. FYI. peaces/ms p.s. oh, i've decided that i too love the new cover artwork - what was i thinking?? there, not totally OT! _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:26:43 -0800 From: "PeteK" Subject: Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic songs At 08:46 PM 2/15/02, you wrote: >love the Jeff Beck Group's version of Goin' Down. Very raucous. Rod Stewart >before he was a star. Great piano work by Max Middleton. Jeff Beck's very >tasty sudden start and stop style. Nick wrote: Odd. On my copy of Jeff Beck Group Bob Tench is the lead vocalist. I don't see this song on any of the previous Beck albums. Where did you hear this? . Warmest regards, Nick >Sorry, Nick I was relying on memory, which in this case makes me look pretty foolish. I know Rod was on one of those old Beck albums and my memory isn't what I think it is. Anyways, thanks for straightening out an old codger, and i'm sure you agree, it really is a great old song. Running out of time ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:38:37 +0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Evening Standard pic Thought the pic was very cool; the quiff working upwards into a minature question mark, the skunklike silver streak only serving to emphasise the query. Big grin considering imminent expulsion of second offspring from Windsor Comprehensive. - ---------- From: KWil632057@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferrys twin Date: Fri, Feb 15, 2002, 11:20 pm In the ES magazine today a recent picture of Ferry (looking old with strategically placed hair) and Ian Mcshane in a 'seperated at birth' comparison! .... Jonathan n/p Ian McShane 'Avalon' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:44:50 EST From: POE1527@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: Sylvian tickets HELP how in the world can I get tickets for the NY show ? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:05:27 -0500 From: David Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: Sylvian tickets Same as always: https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=3003444C770C186&event_code=ETH0505&actname=DAVID_SYLVIAN&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=52 Hurry tho- they went on sale the eighth. At 11:44 AM 2/16/2002 -0500, you wrote: >HELP how in the world can I get tickets for the NY show ? > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:38:08 -0500 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] OT: Sylvian tickets Well - when you see a listing for the DC show at the 9:30 club, let me know - I keep checking, but it seems Ticket*aster doesn't even know what to "classify" David Sylvian as of the shows currently listed, most are under "Concerts - Rock and Pop" , except the New York show, which is listed under "Concerts - Other Concerts" - and oddly, there is an option to look for Sylvian/Fripp - thought it merely returns "Currently, we do not have any event listings. Please check back soon." -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of David Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:05 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: Sylvian tickets Same as always: https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=3003444C770 C186&event_code=ETH0505&actname=DAVID_SYLVIAN&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=52 Hurry tho- they went on sale the eighth. At 11:44 AM 2/16/2002 -0500, you wrote: >HELP how in the world can I get tickets for the NY show ? > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:49 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Impolite behaviour In article <3C6E6DFF.35B83C8D@attglobal.net>, kbporte@attglobal.net (KB Porter) wrote: > "As to the 'need' for bootlegging because the band won't > release the soundboard and other tapes they have, frankly > there are currently two of us who are the only hope anyone > has of getting this stuff out there. I have put proposals > to PM which he is broadly happy with." > > Assuming the both of you are watertight, the band's ship > may have dry rot in its hold! I mean released officially and selecting from the large range of available soundboard tapes. BM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:02:12 EST From: Avalon887@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bob Dylan in Uncut March 2002 In a message dated 2/16/02 9:47:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, kbporte@attglobal.net writes: > [Bob Dylan, in his interview , says: > "It's no accident that other singers have had better hits > with my songs than I have, because they've sensed there's a > structure to them. I've never been allowed to develop that, > working with slipshod producers or fakes or a bunch of > nonenties.."] > > I can't believe for a second that Dylan has ever been under duress to do > anything he didn't want to do! Maybe some prodding and pleading but "never > been allowed" - I don't think so. Even when he appeared at that honorary > celebration some years ago. My mind's not working now...I can't remember > where it was (maybe Lincoln Center or Kennedy Center), but he was there > along with Walter Cronkite and some other quite mentionable named persons. > Regards to all, Eileen in Kew Gardens ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:56:25 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Frantic My two cents worth, the cover if it is going to be.-- To out dated, why the smoking, specially in this day & time with so many opposed to smoking in the first place.If one likes a artist, its the content that matter. I don't care whether the artist is on the cover or not, usually on the inside is pics. to see of the artist. I don't think with Bryan always on the cover is going to make someone buy it. If they think this & put a old photo & then they really see the true age in concert.Why bother with these tactics. the music itself should be what you're buying not some guy's pic. Is Bryan feeling insecure these days about his age, he shouldn't be.---------I wouldn't believe all you read in some mag. about what Dylan said , people like what will be juicy to sell.Take with a grain of salt until otherwise heard direct from the horses mouth. Speaking of horses, I liked the horse on the Mamouna CD. It didn't keep us from purchasing it now did it? Marlana............................................ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:49:18 -0800 (PST) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Frantic I really wish Ferry would use a new picture on the album cover. He looks great now. Older and more distinguished. He shouldn't even dye his hair. Not too many people look that great at 56. The cigarette is another thing. Does anyone remember when Columbia Records, fearing a backlash from anti-smoking activists, decided to airbrush out Paul Simon's cigarette and smoke from the cover of the Simon and Garfunkel box set a few years back? - --- "M.M.K." wrote: > My two cents worth, the cover if it is going to > be.-- To out dated, why > the smoking, specially in this day & time with so > many opposed to > smoking in the first place.If one likes a artist, > its the content that > matter. I don't care whether the artist is on the > cover or not, usually > on the inside is pics. to see of the artist. I don't > think with Bryan > always on the cover is going to make someone buy it. > If they think this > & put a old photo & then they really see the true > age in concert.Why > bother with these tactics. the music itself should > be what you're buying > not some guy's pic. Is Bryan feeling insecure these > days about his age, > he shouldn't be.---------I wouldn't believe all you > read in some mag. > about what Dylan said , people like what will be > juicy to sell.Take with > a grain of salt until otherwise heard direct from > the horses mouth. > Speaking of horses, I liked the horse on the Mamouna > CD. It didn't keep > us from purchasing it now did it? > Marlana............................................ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon Yahoo! 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