From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #36 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, January 31 2002 Volume 07 : Number 036 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Prairie Rose [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] WARNING!!!Re: new photos from my party!---VIRUS!! [Mats Andersso] [AVALON] Nightingale ["=?iso-8859-1?B?SWduYWNpbyBQZXly8w==?=" ] Re: [AVALON] Concrete's Roxy in Chicago Feb 8 ["Maggie Curran" ] Re: [AVALON] Looks like virus time again ["Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Prairie Rose At 22.18 +0100 2-01-29, David wrote: >That's really great, but since Bryan met Jerry when she posed for the cover >of Siren, he'd long since written and performed Prarie Rose, hadn't he? But did he not see Jerry Hall in a magazine, Vogue?, before meeting her? He could have written the song prior to the Roxy cover shoot. NP The Cars, Drive Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:25:59 +0100 From: Mats Andersson Subject: [AVALON] WARNING!!!Re: new photos from my party!---VIRUS!! Warning!!! This thread contains the new VIRUS!!! Angela Prue wrote: > > Hello! > > My party... It was absolutely amazing! > I have attached my web page with new photos! > If you can please make color prints of my photos. Thanks! > > Name: www.myparty.yahoo.com > www.myparty.yahoo.com Type: MS-DOS-program (application/x-unknown-content-type-comfile) > Encoding: x-uuencode ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:43:24 +0000 From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?SWduYWNpbyBQZXly8w==?=" Subject: [AVALON] Nightingale Hello, fellow avalonians. I'm not sure wether "Nightingale" has recently been SOTW or not; I hope you'll excuse me if it's been a topic not long ago. I have always felt quite surprised because of the lyrics of this Ferry - -Manzanera song; has any of you ever wondered if these lyrics have something in common with John Keats' "Ode to a nightingale"? I mean, is there any particular story concerning this song? This kind of dialogue with a bird is an usual topic in romantic poets (Keats' nightingale, Shelley's lark, Leopardi's sparrow)but normally, pop musicians have not had a strong "feeling of the nature"... Therefore it's a bit astonishing to read these Ferry's verses: "before the morning comes,/ will I hear your song?/ Come, little nightingale,/ I won't be here for long", and so on. I think it's even stranger given that Roxy Music (at least in 1975) was an "artificial" band, in the baudelairian sense of the word. Sophistication has never had much to do with Country Life, despite the title of the album. By the way, I'd add another two opinions: a) Roxy lyrics have always tended, mostly in the early seventies, to be some kind of ironyc pastiche, with splendid results -and their music is many times joyful, energetic. In Nightingale, however, you find an intimism which is, as I said, unusual. b) These lyrics of Nightingale are pretty well written, with a charming and candid innocence which can be included in popular poetic traditions (ballads, songs). Finally, I'd say that the music is far away from what you'd expect by only reading the lyrics -and I'm not saying it's no good. Well, I just wanted to share this thought, and I'd be very glad if someone took time to tell me if this interpretation is too "over the top" of what the song really is. Best wishes, Ignacio (stricking back :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos es la manera mas sencilla de compartir, editar e imprimir sus fotos favoritas. http://photos.latam.msn.com/Support/WorldWide.aspx ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:09:59 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "The Thrill Of It All" The Thrill of it all, Roxy have always been good at album openers, TTOIA may just be the best although DTS is a classic in own right ). The sky is dark, The wind is cold, The night is young, Before it's old and grey, We will know, The thrill of it all. These lyrics could have been written the night Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstien, so dark are they. However this is a brilliant lyricist at the peak of his powers, (I bet he didn't foresee the writers block looming just around the corner), TTOIA has much in common with the previous years opus MOP, no particular musical theme with the exception of the repeated piano refrane, it is a lyrical rant over a backing track of 6 musicians playing as if thier lives depended on it, each one of them shine through like diamonds. Country Life for me is Ferrys most accomplished album lyricly, precice sharp lyrics of love and loss, still enjoying life and it's ups and downs, with not a hint of the Sentimental Fool he proclaimed himself to be the following year. Also interestingly it was the bands first journey into a 24 track studio, and it shows, songs like TTOIA, OOTB, Tryptych, Casanova & Prairie Rose sound HUGE , fantastically so in my opinion. Every word of TTOIA is brilliant, possibly his best, certainly nothing since encapsulates a time in his life so well, the money was in the bank, notoriety most people could only dream of, a bevy of beauties at every turn, a brilliant tour, and so creative he produced 5 brilliant albums (ATAP is questionable I know) in THREE YEARS. Oh the thrill of it all. Terry "O" NP: The Thrill Of It All. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:59:13 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "The Thrill Of It All" Nice one Terry! Another movie reference perhaps? There is a 1963 film called The Thrill of It All! starring James Garner and Doris Day... maybe not! Certainly one of the strongest performances on CL, and the first time we really get to hear Jobson's violin work in full force. The combination of the cyclical piano riff and thunderous drums always brings to mind Ferry furiously riding a galloping horse across hostile moorland on a stormy night... AHEM!!! It was a great live track on the tours from 74 - 76, although the 1980 rendition stinks, with Mr Poodle Drummer completely ruining the flow of the song. TGPT is a crucial element of this song (I've said it before and I'll say it again) - ROXY GLUE - holding everything together whilst driving it forward. It's one of those songs that is unmistakably Roxy Music and could never ever be anyone else. A classic - not 'arf!!! SimonG >>> "terrypaulrigz8c" 01/30 2:09 pm >>> The Thrill of it all, Roxy have always been good at album openers, TTOIA may just be the best although DTS is a classic in own right ). The sky is dark, The wind is cold, The night is young, Before it's old and grey, We will know, The thrill of it all. These lyrics could have been written the night Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstien, so dark are they. However this is a brilliant lyricist at the peak of his powers, (I bet he didn't foresee the writers block looming just around the corner), TTOIA has much in common with the previous years opus MOP, no particular musical theme with the exception of the repeated piano refrane, it is a lyrical rant over a backing track of 6 musicians playing as if thier lives depended on it, each one of them shine through like diamonds. Country Life for me is Ferrys most accomplished album lyricly, precice sharp lyrics of love and loss, still enjoying life and it's ups and downs, with not a hint of the Sentimental Fool he proclaimed himself to be the following year. Also interestingly it was the bands first journey into a 24 track studio, and it shows, songs like TTOIA, OOTB, Tryptych, Casanova & Prairie Rose sound HUGE , fantastically so in my opinion. Every word of TTOIA is brilliant, possibly his best, certainly nothing since encapsulates a time in his life so well, the money was in the bank, notoriety most people could only dream of, a bevy of beauties at every turn, a brilliant tour, and so creative he produced 5 brilliant albums (ATAP is questionable I know) in THREE YEARS. Oh the thrill of it all. Terry "O" NP: The Thrill Of It All. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:54:30 -0500 From: David Subject: Re: [AVALON] Nightingale I always assumed that he was referencing Act III sc v of Romeo and Juliet by Shakespeare- Romeo has to leave Juliet because it is nearly dawn, and he will be caught with her: Jul. Wilt thou be gone? It is not yet near day. It was the nightingale, and not the lark, That pierc'd the fearful hollow of thine ear. Nightly she sings on yond pomegranate tree. Believe me, love, it was the nightingale. At 01:43 PM 1/30/2002 +0000, you wrote: Hello, fellow avalonians. I'm not sure wether "Nightingale" has recently been SOTW or not; I hope you'll excuse me if it's been a topic not long ago. I have always felt quite surprised because of the lyrics of this Ferry -Manzanera song; has any of you ever wondered if these lyrics have something in common with John Keats' "Ode to a nightingale"? I mean, is there any particular story concerning this song? This kind of dialogue with a bird is an usual topic in romantic poets (Keats' nightingale, Shelley's lark, Leopardi's sparrow)but normally, pop musicians have not had a strong "feeling of the nature"... Therefore it's a bit astonishing to read these Ferry's verses: "before the morning comes,/ will I hear your song?/ Come, little nightingale,/ I won't be here for long", and so on. I think it's even stranger given that Roxy Music (at least in 1975) was an "artificial" band, in the baudelairian sense of the word. Sophistication has never had much to do with Country Life, despite the title of the album. By the way, I'd add another two opinions: a) Roxy lyrics have always tended, mostly in the early seventies, to be some kind of ironyc pastiche, with splendid results -and their music is many times joyful, energetic. In Nightingale, however, you find an intimism which is, as I said, unusual. b) These lyrics of Nightingale are pretty well written, with a charming and candid innocence which can be included in popular poetic traditions (ballads, songs). Finally, I'd say that the music is far away from what you'd expect by only reading the lyrics -and I'm not saying it's no good. Well, I just wanted to share this thought, and I'd be very glad if someone took time to tell me if this interpretation is too "over the top" of what the song really is. Best wishes, Ignacio (stricking back :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos es la manera mas sencilla de compartir, editar e imprimir sus fotos favoritas. http://photos.latam.msn.com/Support/WorldWide.aspx ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:08:29 -0500 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concrete's Roxy in Chicago Feb 8 Will, Let us hear from you after the Chicago show. Especially want to know if they play "Roxy" and "Your LLorona." Wishing I could be there. Best, Maggie >From: "Will Frechette" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concrete's Roxy in Chicago Feb 8 >Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 23:32:25 -0600 > > My friend just ordered a pair from ticketmaster for the vic and they >where $38 a piece after everything. Luther's has a listing on their site as >$20 advance and $22 at the door. I should be at both shows if you want to >meet up. That goes for most everyone. > > > Will >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:15 PM >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concrete's Roxy in Chicago Feb 8 > > > > In a message dated 1/28/02 7:37:00 PM, will@execpc.com writes: > > > > >Concrete blonde is playing the Vic in Chicago Feb 8 and > > >Luther's in Madison, Wi. Feb 10. > > > > > > Yep, I'll be at Luthers!!! My browser's not loading web pages, but if I > > recall, tix are only $10 for Chicago, $20 for Madison. Still a bargain > > compared to Roxy. . .but there's really no comparison ;-) > > > > Karen > > > > NP: Pretty & Twisted > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:46:32 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Nightingale On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, [iso-8859-1] Ignacio Peyrs wrote: > I have always felt quite surprised because of the lyrics of this Ferry > -Manzanera song; has any of you ever wondered if these lyrics have > something in common with John Keats' "Ode to a nightingale"? I mean, is > there any particular story concerning this song? This kind of dialogue > with a bird is an usual topic in romantic poets (Keats' nightingale, > Shelley's lark, Leopardi's sparrow)but normally, pop musicians have not > had a strong "feeling of the nature"... Therefore it's a bit astonishing > to read these Ferry's verses: "before the morning comes,/ will I hear > your song?/ Come, little nightingale,/ I won't be here for long", and so > on. I think it's even stranger given that Roxy Music (at least in 1975) > was an "artificial" band, in the baudelairian sense of the word. > Sophistication has never had much to do with Country Life, despite the > title of the album. By the way, I'd add another two opinions: a) Roxy > lyrics have always tended, mostly in the early seventies, to be some > kind of ironyc pastiche, with splendid results -and their music is many > times joyful, energetic. In Nightingale, however, you find an intimism > which is, as I said, unusual. b) These lyrics of Nightingale are pretty > well written, with a charming and candid innocence which can be included > in popular poetic traditions (ballads, songs). Finally, I'd say that > the music is far away from what you'd expect by only reading the lyrics > -and I'm not saying it's no good. It's a very interesting tie-in to the lyrics. I've always "heard" the song in the context of the entire _Siren_ album--a series of songs about lost love. To my ears it's not not so much a song about nature, as it is a song about loneliness and despair--he has only the bird for company. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:59:50 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Looks like virus time again This is wierd. I got the 10 or 8 emails from Tim and 2 from some Angela Prue girl (probably in the cyberporn biz). I actually stupidly clicked on the link while not running any antivirus software. Nothing is happening to my computer. I immediatly downloaded Norton's free trial and ran it and found nothing. Is it time release?and my friends that I contacted didn't get any email from me. will - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Connell" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Looks like virus time again > I have seen messages from Tim Tuck on Avalon before. I also received the > emails from him, 2 on Avalon, 2 in my inbox plus I also have a junk mail box > which filters out mail that is send in bulk and I got a couple of Tim's > emails in there too. > > The impression I get from the virus information is that the virus spreads > through the addresses itself and I guess if he has opened a couple of these > Party emails that it has gone through his computer a couple of times. > > Anyway, that's my 2c. > > Take care, > > Tracy. > > >If this tim tuck, or what ever his name, were not a regular > >or former member, he would not have our individual email > >addresses in his database for the worm to email. I suspect > >ill will because this tim tuck has not, to my knowledge, > >posted to our group before, and yet has successfully sent > >worm mail to many of us outside the scope of Avalon List. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:02:43 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Warning!! Colleen's Nightingale Message A warning to everyone (particularly new to the list) and Colleen. Collen, Have you sent a message titled Nightingale with an attachment? I've just received a message from you that looks very suspicious. It says it contains a character set that can't be read so you have to open the attachment to read it! I suspect it's a virus unless you can confirm otherwise. (My understanding has always been that Avalon can't carry attachments?) Andrew _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 08:23:52 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Looks like virus time again Hi Will, I had done the same thing at work, but I thought the software here had stopped it. I did do a virus check anyway and found nothing. The literature about the virus says that it's not distructive so I don't suppose there's too much to worry about. Perhaps it's just designed to clogg up email systems? Who knows? Tracy >From: "Will Frechette" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Looks like virus time again >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:59:50 -0600 > > This is wierd. I got the 10 or 8 emails from Tim and 2 from some Angela >Prue girl (probably in the cyberporn biz). I actually stupidly clicked on >the link while not running any antivirus software. Nothing is happening to >my computer. I immediatly downloaded Norton's free trial and ran it and >found nothing. Is it time release?and my friends that I contacted didn't >get >any email from me. > > will > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tracy Connell" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:32 AM >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Looks like virus time again > > > > I have seen messages from Tim Tuck on Avalon before. I also received >the > > emails from him, 2 on Avalon, 2 in my inbox plus I also have a junk mail >box > > which filters out mail that is send in bulk and I got a couple of Tim's > > emails in there too. > > > > The impression I get from the virus information is that the virus >spreads > > through the addresses itself and I guess if he has opened a couple of >these > > Party emails that it has gone through his computer a couple of times. > > > > Anyway, that's my 2c. > > > > Take care, > > > > Tracy. > > > > >If this tim tuck, or what ever his name, were not a regular > > >or former member, he would not have our individual email > > >addresses in his database for the worm to email. I suspect > > >ill will because this tim tuck has not, to my knowledge, > > >posted to our group before, and yet has successfully sent > > >worm mail to many of us outside the scope of Avalon List. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #36 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest