From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #28 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, January 28 2002 Volume 07 : Number 028 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Re: SACD......was New Ferry Single ["Philip Adams" ] [AVALON] VS: test [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= ] Re: [AVALON] SACD - My Two Cents [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON]Virgin's First SACD Issues? [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] DVD ["Duncan Watkins" ] [AVALON] OT: Junk mail: get your own back! ["Duncan Watkins" ] RE: [AVALON] CDNOW advance orders ["Heather James" ] Re: [AVALON] Concrete Blonde's "Roxy" ["Anthony Bird" ] Re: [AVALON] CDNOW advance orders [Jim Rosencutter ] Re: [AVALON]Virgin's First SACD Issues? ["Keith Shockley" ] [AVALON] =?iso-8859-1?Q?=5BAVALON=5D_=28=28QUADROPHONY=29=29=AE_SOUND?= [] Re: [AVALON] SACD - My Two Cents ["tmoq" ] [AVALON] Manu Chao [CoconutTears@aol.com] [AVALON] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20((QUADROPHONY))=AE=20SOUND?= [CoconutTears@] Re: [AVALON] Manu Chao Klan destine ["The Bogus Man" Subject: [AVALON] Re: SACD......was New Ferry Single May be time to upgrade my old hi-fi. Philip > About what? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Philip Adams > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 3:41 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry Single > > > you're kidding, right? > > Philip > > > > > Do you need one to play one? It all depends on the CD itself, the > > players are backwards compatible with standard CD playback but it > > depends on the actual pressing whether or not they are "hybrid" discs. > > > You can't play an SACD on a standard CD player unless it's a hybrid. > > > > But, if you do have an SACD player, there is a wealth of extra > > information on the disc. For example they use a sampling frequency 64 > > times higher than that of CD, so it offers an extremely pure and > > natural sound. It's the next level for the CD, they really are under > > utilizing today's technology. Similar to when CD's overtook vinyl > > LP's. Anybody planning on spending some hard cash for a CD or DVD > > player should consider an SACD player, as most of them also play > > DVD's. > > > > Here is a link to some more info on Sony's SACD, note they are only > > making non-hybrid, not sure about Virgin. Lets hope it's a hybrid! > > > > http://www.sonymusic.com/sacd/faqdirect.html > > > > Hope this helps, > > Rick > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf > > Of Philip Adams > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 5:12 AM > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry Single > > > > > > Do I need a Super Audio Compact Disc player? :-) > > > > Is Super Audio better than High Definition? > > > > Questions, questions. > > > > Philip > > > > > > > > > > > Super Audio Compact Disc. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf > > > > Of Sebastian Fasthuber > > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:56 AM > > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry Single > > > > > > > > > >> It will be the first Virgin album ever released as SACD > > > > > > > > > what's SACD??? > > > > > > > > > sebastian > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > __ > > > __ > > > ___ > > > The subliminable footer says: > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > __ > > ___ > > > The subliminable footer says: > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > __ > > ___ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ___ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ___ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 03:38:14 -0800 (PST) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] SACD/HDCD - --- CoconutTears@aol.com wrote: > basically the same as the licensed HDCD format. > This last format is what the > Roxy remasters are in, and they are also > "backwards-compatible" with old CD > players and regular two-speaker setups. Still trying to get my brain round this one....so...the Roxy re-masters were released in HDCD format, apart from being "re-mastered" what extra "advantages" did the HDCD provide? Did you need "surround sound" to fully appreciate HDCD? Aleks (confused) Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:44:21 -0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= Subject: [AVALON] VS: test - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ole-Petter Drxnen To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: test Sorry, but I'm just checking my new temporary e-mail account. Ole-Petter ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 09:47:44 EST From: CoconutTears@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] SACD/HDCD In a message dated 1/27/02 5:41:09 AM, aleks50@yahoo.com writes: >Did you need "surround sound" to fully appreciate >HDCD? No. As I understand, two speakers would give the full sonic effect. But the player itself would have to have the HDCD symbol on the front to be processing the sound for the enhancements to be audible. HDCD discs with the proper decoding have a more "analog" sound which to goldenear folks is a good thing--more like vinyl. Keep in mind, however, that the remastering itself of the RM/BF stuff is a separate process, so regular CD players will still reproduce the studio tweaks just fine. Karen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 10:50:25 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] SOTW: "The Thrill Of It All" The song of the what/whenever is "The Thrill of It All" from _Country Life_. As before the discussion is open to anything related to the song, and these are only suggestions: love it? hate it? lyrics/music it changed my life live vs. studio version(s) (if applicable) the video (if any) that reminds me... The Thrill of It All The sky is dark The wind is cold The night is young Before it's old and grey We will know The thrill of it all The time has come It's getting late It's now or never Don't hesitate or stall When I call Don't spoil The thrill of it all And before you go to sleep at night Preying shadows--do they ask you why? And in the morning through the afternoon Do you wonder where you're going to? Every word I use Each crumpled page Strange ideas Mature with age Like leaves When autumn falls Turn gold Then they hit the ground Every time I hear The latest sound It's pure whiskey Reeling round and around My brain Oh and all o' that jive It's driving me wild The dizzy spin I'm in Everywhere I look I see your face I hear your name All over the place Hey girl Though you're gone Still I recall The thrill of it all You might as well know what is right for you And make the most of what you like to do For all the pleasure that's surrounding you Should compensate for all you're going through So if you're feeling fraught With mental strain Too much thinking's got you down again Well let your senses skip Stay hip Keep cool To the thrill of it all When you try too much You lose control Pressure rises And so I'm told Something's got to give Oy vey High life ecstacy You might as well live I can't see I can't speak I couldn't take more than another week Without you--oh no So I will drink my fill Till the thrill is you Oh the thrill of it all Oh the thrill of it all No I won't forget The thrill of it all ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:16:18 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] SACD - My Two Cents http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/consumer/sacd/static/index.html http://www.superaudio-cd.com/ The above two sites will provide answers to most questions one could want to ask about the super audio compact disk format. The latter site exposes the double-edged nature of this format: While improved fidelity is offered (along with backward technocompatability), the sacd format utilizes an active copyright management system that carries copyright identification codes and conditional access keys via Digital Watermark, as well as anti-piracy Digital Watermark that differentiate legitimate from pirated copies. The sacd players will not play pirated sacd. One must learn how to hack the Watermark coding, then eliminate or embed corrective information to fool the players. Fun? Remember dvd? - Now that dvd has become a recordable medium, the production industry and its attendants have moved on - to sacd - I guess, until the codes are cracked! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:33:21 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON]Virgin's First SACD Issues? Virgin Artists And Record Buying Public Warm To Super Audio CD Roxy Music, Brian Eno, Simple Minds, Adiemus and Robert Fripp Schedule SACD Releases - August 2001 Following positive market reactions to Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells release on Super Audio CD, Virgin Records is releasing further top artists on this new music format. "We have received a fantastic reaction to our first SACD release," commented Jason Day, Catalogue Manager at Virgin Records. "Music lovers are impressed by the clarity of the stereo mix and thrilled with the multichannel mix that are both found on the new release Tubular Bells". The new Virgin Records release list now includes: Roxy Music - Best Of... Simple Minds - Best Of... Human League - Dare King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King Brian Eno - Music For Airports Tangerine Dream - Rubycon Ennio Morricone - The Mission Michael Nyman - The Piano Adiemus - Songs Of Sanctuary For Virgin, the decision to adopt Super Audio CD is driven by the reactions of recording artists and the music buying public. "Quite simply, this exciting new music format adds value to the customer," explained Jason Day. "In its multichannel form, it provides surround capabilities to a wider audience at the same time as enhancing sound fidelity for the important audiophile market." To date more than 400 SACD titles have been released in Europe, Japan and the USA, while the number of labels to release SACD titles continues to grow steadily. Approximately twenty Super Audio CD player models have been introduced in Europe by manufacturers such as Sony, Philips, Pioneer, Marantz, Sharp, Luxman, Accuphase and Linn. Available as affordable combination DVD-Video/SACD/CD systems, SACD is set to become widely adopted in households throughout Europe. Virgin Records is strategically positioned to capitalise on the growth of this new generation digital music technology. "We will monitor retail demand and plan releases in accordance," commented Jason Day. -Ends- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:42:56 -0600 From: "Jeff Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Lester Bangs and Bryan Ferry I know this is probably old news for a lot of people, but I just found it out last night and had a laugh out of it, so I thought I would share it. I just got the special edition DVD of "Almost Famous," the semibiographical movie by/about Cameron Crowe. In the extras, there are some interview snippets from the 70s with the rock journalist Lester Bangs, giving his opinion about various artists of that time. At the beginning of one of the snippets, you don't quite catch the name of the group at first, until he mentions the lead singer's name--Bryan Ferry. He goes on to say he thought "Stranded" was a fantastic album, then he chanced to meet Ferry at a party. He thought Ferry was totally vacuous and said he should have to sit in a corner and be ignored, or words to that effect. How cruel! I'd say tho, Bryan gets the last laugh, because thirty years later, a hell of a lot more people know who Bryan Ferry is than Lester Bangs. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 12:12:05 -0500 From: "Pete Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lester Bangs and Bryan Ferry I remember that. It was one of the least informed remarks I've heard out of a so-called journalist's mouth. I think he said something about putting a drink and a cigarette in Ferry's hand and propping him up in a corner. Probably wasn't enough like Quicksilver Messenger Service for Lester's tastes. Pete S. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Turner" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:42 PM Subject: [AVALON] Lester Bangs and Bryan Ferry > I know this is probably old news for a lot of people, but I just found it > out last night and had a laugh out of it, so I thought I would share it. I > just got the special edition DVD of "Almost Famous," the semibiographical > movie by/about Cameron Crowe. In the extras, there are some interview > snippets from the 70s with the rock journalist Lester Bangs, giving his > opinion about various artists of that time. At the beginning of one of the > snippets, you don't quite catch the name of the group at first, until he > mentions the lead singer's name--Bryan Ferry. He goes on to say he thought > "Stranded" was a fantastic album, then he chanced to meet Ferry at a party. > He thought Ferry was totally vacuous and said he should have to sit in a > corner and be ignored, or words to that effect. How cruel! I'd say tho, > Bryan gets the last laugh, because thirty years later, a hell of a lot more > people know who Bryan Ferry is than Lester Bangs. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:18:59 From: "David Gilmour" Subject: Re: [AVALON] DVD Anyone knows WHEN the DVD will be released ? Thanks in advance - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Foto's is de eenvoudigste manier om je foto's te delen en af te drukken: Klik hier ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 19:16:59 +0000 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: Re: [AVALON] DVD Anyone knows WHEN the DVD will be released ? 'Easter-ish' is what I was told by someone who should know. Regards, Duncan. - ------------------------------------------------------------- ______________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 19:35:35 +0000 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: [AVALON] OT: Junk mail: get your own back! Great idea sent to me from a Canadian friend.... When you get unwanted ads with your phone or utility bill, include them with your payment. Let them throw them away! Think globally act locally. When you get those pre-approved letters for everything from credit cards to 2nd mortgages and junk like that, most of them come with postage paid return envelopes right? Well, why not get rid of some of your other junk mail and put it in these cool little envelopes! Send an ad for your local chimney cleaner or a pizza coupon to these companies. If you didn't get anything else that day then just send them their application form back! Just make sure your name isn't on anything you send them.You can even send the envelope back empty, if you just want to keep them guessing! Eventually the banks and credit card companies will begin to get their junk mail back in the mail.Let them know what its like to get junk mail, and best of all THEY'RE paying for it! Twice!! Let's all help to keep the postal service busy since e-mail is cutting into their business. Regards, Duncan. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:47:09 -0500 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: [AVALON] Concrete Blonde's "Roxy" Have listened to Concrete Blonde's "Roxy" as well as the complete CD. The artists have given "Roxy" place of honor on the disc. The song is indeed a loving tribute to Roxy Music. Can't tell from the CD liner notes which of the three band members wrote "Roxy" but maybe it was a collaborative effort. Would love to know how others feel about this song and the CD. Best, Maggie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:59:30 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: Junk mail: get your own back! At 11:35 AM 1/27/02, you wrote: >Great idea sent to me from a Canadian friend.... > > >Eventually the banks and credit card companies will begin to get their >junk mail back in the mail.Let them know what its like to get junk mail, >and best of all THEY'RE paying for it! Twice!! Let's all help to keep the >postal service busy since e-mail is cutting into their business. That is a good idea. In the old days, we used to glue the prepaid return labels to folded-paper wrappings with a brick or two inside of them. I'm sure there are others who sent back other, less-fragrant 'gifts'. Nick N/P: I'm So Bored With The USA - The Clash, Cardiff, July 2, 1977 Roxy Trade Page: http://boootlegs.com/roxy.htm Roxy Trade Page - Text Only: http://boootlegs.com/bootxt04.htm Other Trade Stuff: http://boootlegs.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 08:53:15 +1200 From: Kamaya.Yates@police.govt.nz Subject: [AVALON] re: Baby Blue - 1st single & dvd vs..... Thanks Colleen - I was a bit confused there for a nano second so thanks for sorting me out. I guess we all know that sometimes the best system doesn't always win out eg. beta vs vhs but even within dvd aren't there at least three formats fighting it out?? I think I will just sit it out before committing to a hardware purchase unless there is any insider info out there? kamaya =============================================================== WARNING This message may contain information that is confidential and may be subject to the provisions of section 61A of the Police Act 1958, which creates an offence to have unlawful possession of Police documents. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or have received this message in error, you must not peruse, use, pass or copy this message or any of its contents. Also note, the views expressed in this message may not necessarily reflect those of the New Zealand Police. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:06:04 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "The Thrill Of It All" At 16.50 +0100 2-01-27, Colleen Matan wrote: >The song of the what/whenever is "The Thrill of It All" from _Country >Life_. > >As before the discussion is open to anything related to the song, and >these are only suggestions: > > love it? hate it? A great song that blew my mind when I first heard it on a live bootleg. > lyrics/music The 70's hang heavy on it. The lyrics is a celebration of the post syphilis, pre-aids days. > it changed my life No. > live vs. studio version(s) (if applicable) It was left out of Viva!... > the video (if any) No. > that reminds me... Of Kingsley Amis' "Take a girl like you". NP Meat Loaf. I'll do anything for love (but I won't do that) -- my wife is greatful for the latter. :-) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:32:06 -0800 From: "PeteK" Subject: [AVALON] CDNOW advance orders http://www.cdnow.com/ has advance orders for Frantic with an expected release date of Feb 5th. Who now knows when they were provided this information, but this is encouraging. Running out of time. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:45:03 -0500 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] CDNOW advance orders You've GOT to be kidding me ... http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1287678884/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/al bum.html/ArtistID=FERRY*BRYAN/ITEMID=1501033 CD $29.49 List $ 31.99 Expected Release Date: February 05, 2002 $30 for a CD - ?? Thats crazytalk! -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of PeteK Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:32 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] CDNOW advance orders http://www.cdnow.com/ has advance orders for Frantic with an expected release date of Feb 5th. Who now knows when they were provided this information, but this is encouraging. Running out of time. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 18:42:50 -0800 From: "Anthony Bird" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concrete Blonde's "Roxy" I love this song a lot. A fine expression of love for a band that obviously means something to a lot of people and myself. Hasn't failed yet to put me in a good mood. >From: "Maggie Curran" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: [AVALON] Concrete Blonde's "Roxy" >Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 14:47:09 -0500 > >Have listened to Concrete Blonde's "Roxy" as well as the complete CD. >The artists have given "Roxy" place of honor on the disc. The song is >indeed a loving tribute to Roxy Music. Can't tell from the CD liner notes >which of the three band members wrote "Roxy" but maybe it was a >collaborative effort. Would love to know how others feel about this >song and the CD. > >Best, >Maggie > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 02:59:58 +0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: RE: [AVALON] CDNOW advance orders >CD $29.49 List $ 31.99 > >Expected Release Date: February 05, 2002 > > $30 for a CD - ?? Thats crazytalk! > I'm on the mailing list for a record store on the West Coast and they're charging $36 for the import of Frantic. I paid almost $45 for a Pizzicato 5 album which is the most I've ever spent on a CD. I paid $35 (each) to get a couple of Saint Etienne albums that were only released in Japan. $30 is not so crazy. Some British imports are $27. M NP (on repeat) - Kylie Minogue's "I Don't Need Anyone" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:03:44 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] CDNOW advance orders > $30 for a CD - ?? Thats crazytalk! > Maybe it's not being released in the US, and that is the import price? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 22:16:28 -0500 From: "Don Becker" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CDNOW advance orders Clearly, based on the nearly $30 price, this is a Japanese import. I would guess that the album is going to be released elsewhere at a later date - only the truly mad would grab the import at this price. Now where's my credit card? :) - --Don - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather James" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:45 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] CDNOW advance orders > You've GOT to be kidding me ... > > http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1287678884/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/al > bum.html/ArtistID=FERRY*BRYAN/ITEMID=1501033 > > CD $29.49 List $ 31.99 > > Expected Release Date: February 05, 2002 > > $30 for a CD - ?? Thats crazytalk! > > > > -= )-(eather =- > >--------------------< > hjames@thewebgal.com > > The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ > My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html > Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html > Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html > >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > PeteK > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:32 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] CDNOW advance orders > > > http://www.cdnow.com/ has advance orders for Frantic with an expected > release > date of Feb 5th. Who now knows when they were provided this information, but > this is encouraging. Running out of time. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 00:40:08 -0800 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON]Virgin's First SACD Issues? - ----- Original Message ----- From: KB Porter To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON]Virgin's First SACD Issues? so how much does a SACD cost? Keith NP: Me Gustus Tu / Manu Chao > Virgin Artists And Record Buying Public Warm To Super Audio > CD > > Roxy Music, Brian Eno, Simple Minds, Adiemus and Robert > Fripp Schedule SACD Releases - August 2001 > > > Following positive market reactions to Mike Oldfield's > Tubular Bells release on Super Audio CD, Virgin Records is > releasing further top artists on this new music format. "We > have received a fantastic reaction to our first SACD > release," commented Jason Day, Catalogue Manager at Virgin > Records. "Music lovers are impressed by the clarity of the > stereo mix and thrilled with the multichannel mix that are > both found on the new release Tubular Bells". > The new Virgin Records release list now includes: > Roxy Music - Best Of... > Simple Minds - Best Of... > Human League - Dare > King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King > Brian Eno - Music For Airports > Tangerine Dream - Rubycon > Ennio Morricone - The Mission > Michael Nyman - The Piano > Adiemus - Songs Of Sanctuary > > For Virgin, the decision to adopt Super Audio CD is driven > by the reactions of recording artists and the music buying > public. "Quite simply, this exciting new music format adds > value to the customer," explained Jason Day. "In its > multichannel form, it provides surround capabilities to a > wider audience at the same time as enhancing sound fidelity > for the important audiophile market." > > To date more than 400 SACD titles have been released in > Europe, Japan and the USA, while the number of labels to > release SACD titles continues to grow steadily. > Approximately twenty Super Audio CD player models have been > introduced in Europe by manufacturers such as Sony, Philips, > Pioneer, Marantz, Sharp, Luxman, Accuphase and Linn. > Available as affordable combination DVD-Video/SACD/CD > systems, SACD is set to become widely adopted in households > throughout Europe. > > Virgin Records is strategically positioned to capitalise on > the growth of this new generation digital music technology. > "We will monitor retail demand and plan releases in > accordance," commented Jason Day. > -Ends- > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 21:53:40 -0800 From: Stirl & Jo Subject: Re: [AVALON] CDNOW advance orders More typical of an SACD new release price. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 00:54:31 -0500 From: "tmoq" Subject: [AVALON] =?iso-8859-1?Q?=5BAVALON=5D_=28=28QUADROPHONY=29=29=AE_SOUND?= - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] SACD > My two cents on the matter, after talking with my household hi-fi wizard. > > The CD will no doubt be the dual-layer type, meaning it will play fine on any > CD player ever made. But for those who have an actual SACD player, it will > play in multichannel sound, like is popular for video setups, where there are > not only left and right speakers, but also rear "surround" speakers and > possibly a subwoofer. Some time in the mid(?) '70`s I recall our local electronics store having this huge booth built in the back which held a complete Quadrophonic system....phono, 8-Track player, strategically placed speakers....the whole sha-bang. You would stand on a "X" laid out on the floor in silver duct tape while the salesman lowered the phono needle onto the beginning of the song "Time" from a Quadrophonic copy of Dark Side Of The Moon and the chiming clocks would flow around you like water. It was an incredible experience and everyone just knew that THIS was the way music was supposed to be heard and no question about it.....THIS was the future of music. Within a year the Quadrophonic gear was out and the booth was filled with run-of-the-mill mainstream equipment. Quadrophonic sound just didn`t go over despite that incredible sound because it had a major flaw...it only worked if you were standing on that silver duct tape "X". It didn`t work with head phones, it didn`t work in the car deck, it didn`t work in the portable player at the beach and the effect was lost when in another room doing laundry or washing dishes. THIS is how people listened to music and no matter how wonderful the sound was, they wern`t willing to lay out money for a system that required them to stand on a silver duct tape "X", and this is just one of many problems that face the SACD format. Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 01:01:18 -0500 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SACD - My Two Cents - ----- Original Message ----- From: "KB Porter" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] SACD - My Two Cents >While improved fidelity is offered (along with > backward technocompatability), the sacd format utilizes an > active copyright management system that carries copyright > identification codes and conditional access keys via Digital > Watermark, as well as anti-piracy Digital Watermark that > differentiate legitimate from pirated copies. The sacd > players will not play pirated sacd. One must learn how to > hack the Watermark coding, then eliminate or embed > corrective information to fool the players. Fun? Remember > dvd? - Now that dvd has become a recordable medium, the > production industry and its attendants have moved on - to > sacd - I guess, until the codes are cracked! A careful search through www.sweetwater.com can *correct* anything they throw at you. Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 01:15:29 EST From: CoconutTears@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Manu Chao In a message dated 1/27/02 11:41:52 PM, shockley@usit.net writes: >Keith >NP: Me Gustus Tu / Manu Chao Gee, I thought I'd be the only one on the list to know of Manu Chao. Great, great stuff, very political, musically diverse, humorous. The polar opposite of Roxy, yet also equally listenable. If you don't have Clandestino (second most recent), get it now. Karen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 01:27:21 EST From: CoconutTears@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20((QUADROPHONY))=AE=20SOUND?= One of my childhood memories is being at the home of one of my dad's friends and being treated to a demo of his new quad system. I can't remember what record was played (heck, I was only 9 or 10 and not into much rock music), but I can still remember the chills and thrills of feeling enveloped by the music. It's a shame the masses can sit on their collective *sses for 2 or greater hours for some worthless slasher movie or US football game in surround sound on their home theater, but much fewer find it worthwhile to sit on their sofa and listen with ears wide open to a fine program of music, be it six , four , or humble two-channel sound Karen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 07:43:35 +0100 From: "The Bogus Man" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manu Chao Klan destine well we know him here in italy but is he so good? ciao Karen me gusta tu lol danilo ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #28 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest