From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #22 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, January 22 2002 Volume 07 : Number 022 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: RE: [AVALON] Roxy karaoke ["Simon Galloway" ] RE: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] [AVALON] RE: I Had A Dream/Shuttleworth... Off topic [Aleks Kocan ] RE: [AVALON] Bryan at Taboo ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy karaoke [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) [KB Porter <] Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) [Heather Jam] Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) [KB Porter <] Re: [AVALON] Lounge Lizard [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy karaoke [InterEireann@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxy karaoke [ASchulberg@aol.com] [AVALON] In My Mind [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] In My Mind [Aleks Kocan ] Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) ["N. S. Koff] Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) [Heather Jam] Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) ["N. S. Koff] Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) [Heather Jam] Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) [David Firmi] [none] ["jimbo" ] Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) ["N. S. Koff] SV: [AVALON] In My Mind [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= ] SV: [AVALON] I Had a point with Neeeek [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8ne] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:06:13 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] Roxy karaoke Actually, I'd rather not spoil Street Life, but would instead prefer to unleash my talents on Pyjamarama or Sign Of The Times (in the style of the Ramones). You have been warned. SimonG >>> "Fiske, Jocelyn" 01/21 5:24 pm >>> Yes, but provided with the proper stone jetty, he does an excellent impression of the _Siren_ cover. Ah, but not a patch on Ivor's same impression on The Giant's Causeway. And shall we put you down for Street Life Simon? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:19:34 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... >Yeah, that's a great (double) CD... JJ could really be an obnoxious a-hole, though, couldn't he? Whatever happened to him? Jilted John aka Graham Fellows is now reinvented as the comic genius John Shuttleworth a no hope, Northern, organ playing singer songwriter and 50 year old father of two from Sheffield. His hilarious series on Radio 4 features him playing himself (natch) and his wife Mary and his manager next-door neighbour Ken. He is also featured in a spoof mockumentary (500 Bus Stops) shadowing his one man tour of the Pennines. Very dry, very surreal. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:24:56 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: [AVALON] Never mind the Buzzcocks... ....last night featured Street Life in the intro section of the programme (where two contestants are required to do an acappella version of a song intro for the third member of their team to identify). Suzi Quatro and Sean Hughes make a right hash of it, but their other team member (some children's TV bimbo I think) after given a huge clue by Quatro "the lead singer's really handsome", enthusiastically announced "I'd do him!". Good to see we can still rely on the BBC for quality TV. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:34:27 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... It made me smile when he spoke of the Abbeydale Industrial Hamlet... Mr. Fellowe has also tried launching a new character, a bitter university music lecturer who claims to have written all the best songs only to be ripped off. All I'll say for now is that John Shuttleworth is a very hard act to follow. SimonG >>> "Fiske, Jocelyn" 01/22 11:19 am >>> >Yeah, that's a great (double) CD... JJ could really be an obnoxious a-hole, though, couldn't he? Whatever happened to him? Jilted John aka Graham Fellows is now reinvented as the comic genius John Shuttleworth a no hope, Northern, organ playing singer songwriter and 50 year old father of two from Sheffield. His hilarious series on Radio 4 features him playing himself (natch) and his wife Mary and his manager next-door neighbour Ken. He is also featured in a spoof mockumentary (500 Bus Stops) shadowing his one man tour of the Pennines. Very dry, very surreal. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 04:52:16 -0800 (PST) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: [AVALON] RE: I Had A Dream/Shuttleworth... Off topic - --- "Fiske, Jocelyn" wrote: > Jilted John aka Graham Fellows is now reinvented as > the comic genius John > Shuttleworth a no hope, Northern, organ playing > singer songwriter and 50 > year old father of two from Sheffield. Shuttleworth tours quite regularly, I've seen him a couple of times and thought he was hilarious, although as Jocelyn says the humour is very dry. Guess he appeals to me because he throws in references about Sheffield and the surrounding districts. Some of his jokes would definitely be lost on someone who wasn't familiar with the Sheffield Area. Aleks Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:59:48 -0600 From: "Jas" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy karaoke Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:15:29 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy karaoke If you were to nominate just ONE song from the entire RM/BF catalogue that you would attempt to stand up and do karaoke stylee which would it be? Jocelyn ME: In Every Dream Home A Heartache or Both Ends Burning. After a few Roxy Martini's, I think I could do them justice and use enough "distance'" convey feeling. Jas Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:53:37 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan at Taboo >Phillip Sallon welcomes her saying, "Come in, Bryan Ferry's over there" and she replies, "Ooh - I love Roxy Music!" Very strange! Was Bryan really so much part of the 80s club scene? Not really. Ferry's always gone for the more "elite" members only clubs, before they throw open their doors to the hoi polloi. In Newcastle in the 70's and 80's he'd turn up at Julie's (which was quite exclusive then). In London, in the 90's, he seemed to be a bit of a fan of Piers Adams latest ventures , joining Kabaret and occasionally showing at the K bar, I'd expect he's already joined Piers and Marco Pierre White's newie, The Stork Club. Philip Salon and crew delighted in turning people away at the door of Taboo (there was no such thing as membership). Perversely he even turned George away one night just because he could! As for Ferry being an icon of Salon et al, he was to a degree, but Bowie was definitely The Man in those circles. Steve Strange thought he'd died and gone to heaven (not the club) after Bowie invited him to appear in the Ashes to Ashes video. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:20:36 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy karaoke {[ Yes, but provided with the proper stone jetty, he does an excellent impression of the _Siren_ cover.] Ah, but not a patch on Ivor's same impression on The Giant's Causeway. And shall we put you down for Street Life Simon? } Wait! Didn't Ivor do the Country Life just behind Ferry's home? Is this how he's been spending his time - doing karaoke covers! Put me down for Manifesto. I prefer the back of the pack. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:22:40 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) I had a dream. ???????????????????????????????? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:30:46 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) Just a trite and tacky reference from a white Amurican ... think nothing of it ... -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< KB Porter quoted: > I had a dream. > > ???????????????????????????????? > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:28:20 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) I have a dream, .... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:15:20 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lounge Lizard 'Here is a tidbit of a review of the Stokes Cd IS THIS IT. "Like John Lennon double-tracking his vocals so he could scream across the gap it created or Bryan Ferry lounging in the back of his songs to draw the listener in, frontman Julian Casablancas uses distance to communicate passion." He's distancing himself to draw us in and to keep us wondering. Oh... Discuss...' Dear Jas: I read the review on the Stokes, thanks for the link. I am not familiar with this band, so I can not make any observations about Julian Casablancas' singing style and how it compares to Bryan Ferry's. However, if I am to think of a discussion based on the idea that Bryan Ferry 'lounges in the back of his songs to draw the listener in' - 'uses distance to communicate passion', or 'distances himself to draw us in and to keep us wondering', then I will attempt to contribute. I'm not overly aware of BF using mechanical means to create, what might be heard as, a filter or physical barrier that would cause his vocals to sound remote or distant. I leave that aspect for others to explore. The words, their intonation and delivery by Bryan Ferry do facilitate a feeling that the singer has stepped back from the subject of the song as thought he is observing, exploring, maybe even prodding, the subject matter. An inspection of sorts, perhaps it is easier for Mr. Ferry to distance himself from the subject in order to illustrate it or to make sense of it. Could this be construed as voyeurism, predilection, ambivalence, - is it emotionally cold, cool, warm, hot, or any combination thereof? Is he consciously beckoning the listener to enter his created world, using aloofness and ambiguity to draw the listener in? Could Bryan Ferry's body of work be effectively summed by the opening lines of Dante's 'The Divine Comedy': Midway this way of life we're bound upon I woke to find myself in a dark wood, Where the right road was wholly lost and gone. (as translated by Dorothy L. Sayers) Is Ferry's work: Allegory? Journal? Intrinsic? Elusive? Empirical? Imagined? I find many aspects of BF's work are permeated with a variety of distancing. Perhaps the most striking aspect of his work is the absence of empathy. The sayings, 'you want most what you can't have', 'can't always get what you want', 'wanting some other spring some time', 'out of reach is out of touch, are well trenched thoughts within modern society - the grass is greener on the other side. This mentality may be sufficient bait to lure us into Bryan Ferry's work. Perhaps that is why we are interested. This could go on and on......... Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:24:50 EST From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy karaoke I have taken to singing Chance Meeting and 2HB in the car lately ( short and spares the audience ) , so I might howl one of those out, although in my youth ( around the time of Viva! ) I fancied myself belting out Out of The Blue. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:41:55 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy karaoke In a message dated 01/22/2002 11:27:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, InterEireann@aol.com writes: > so I might howl one of those out, although in my youth ( around the time of > Viva! ) I fancied myself belting out Out of The Blue Oh, how could I forget? I used to bellow out: If you ever change your mind I've a certain cure An old refrain, it lingers on L'amour, toujours l'amour Probably too old and embarassed to do that in front of a crowd now. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:02:43 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] In My Mind Some people thought I gave a pretty accurate description of this album, so I thought I'd post it here as well and put the subject to rest. Original message: Subject: In Your Mind I've been following some of this and I'd like to give you some of my input. In Your Mind is Ferry's masterpiece. It's his Pet Sounds and his Sgt. Pepper. Upon first hearing this, I was blown away. Surely, these must be covers? Old Motown classics, reworked by Ferry? No, they were all written by Ferry. Oh My God, he's a genius. He assembled the most outstanding band since Roxy Music. They're better than Roxy Music. Chris Spedding is a guitar demi-God. I don't need layers of unnecessary bullshit to get the message. Sgt. Pepper was done on a four-track. This is what Roxy could have become! I know an album is great if I can give it repeated listening and never tire of it. The other stuff might be good as background dinner music, but In Your Mind is a headphone classic! Brilliant through and through! David *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:37:02 -0800 (PST) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] In My Mind - --- David Firmin wrote: > The other stuff might be good as background > dinner music, but In Your > Mind is a headphone classic! Brilliant through and > through! "In Your Mind" is my favourite Ferry album. Although I think it has a couple of weak tracks (e.g "In Your Mind"), the strong tracks (e.g "All Night Operator") more than compensate. It's got quite a "raw" feel about it, it doesn't sound overproduced to me, maybe thats why I like it. I think it's best listened to on a nice summer evening with the volume turned right up (with or without headphones!) so that it hits you "full on". Aleks Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:44:48 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) At 06:28 AM 1/22/02, you wrote: >I have a dream, .... > The tense wouldn't have been correct. It was a dream I *had*, while sleeping, before I woke up. After I woke up, it could no longer have been recounted as a dream I *have* but only as a dream I had had. To have forced an incorrect tense might have seemed tacky and trite to a certain type of person, but it would never have occurred to me, especially as I was merely recounting a dream I had. Nick ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:00:31 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) No - it WAS tacky and trite to riff off a famous phrase from a speech by Dr. King on Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Who cares whether you used the right tense or not - thats insignificant compared to making the comparison in the first place. Any other day of the year it might have been acceptable, but not that day. It WAS trite and petty - period. Its like saying - "I had a dream about a cold beer ... " Its petty and thoughtless. Sheesh - if I have to explain it to you ... -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< N. S. Koff wrote: > At 06:28 AM 1/22/02, you wrote: > >>I have a dream, .... >> >> > The tense wouldn't have been correct. It was a dream I *had*, while > sleeping, before I woke up. After I woke up, it could no longer have been > recounted as a dream I *have* but only as a dream I had had. To have > forced an incorrect tense might have seemed tacky and trite to a certain > type of person, but it would never have occurred to me, especially as I was > merely recounting a dream I had. > > Nick > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - -- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:07:11 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) Don't you ever get tired of yourself? Just stuff it. And you STILL don't have to thank me for the CDs I sent you. In fact, if they offended you, why not just send them back? At 10:00 AM 1/22/02, you wrote: > No - it WAS tacky and trite to riff off a famous phrase from a > speech by Dr. King on Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Who cares whether you > used the right tense or not - thats insignificant compared to making the >comparison in the first place. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:15:47 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) Don't you ever get it - its got nothing to do with you personally - I'd tell anyone who was so thoughtless as to trivialize Dr King that they were trite - you did and you were. The past has nothing to do with it - I sent you Cds, you sent me Cds - trades happen. That was then, you being an ass is now. N. S. Koff wrote: > Don't you ever get tired of yourself? Just stuff it. And you STILL don't > have to thank me for the CDs I sent you. In fact, if they offended you, why > not just send them back? > > At 10:00 AM 1/22/02, you wrote: > >> No - it WAS tacky and trite to riff off a famous phrase from a >>speech by Dr. King on Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Who cares whether you >>used the right tense or not - thats insignificant compared to making the >>comparison in the first place. >> > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:16:53 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) Now you're talkin' ... Garcon! on 1/22/02 10:00 AM, Heather James at hjames@thewebgal.com wrote: > I had a dream about a cold beer *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:26:51 +0100 From: "jimbo" Subject: [none] test ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:27:57 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) At 10:15 AM 1/22/02, you wrote: > Don't you ever get it - its got nothing to do with you personally > - I'd tell anyone who was so thoughtless as to trivialize Dr King that > they were trite - you did and you were. Why do you think it's your job to criticize people? MLK would probably find your incessant nagging and criticism insufferable. Get over that bad habit. > The past has nothing to do with it - I sent you Cds, you sent me > Cds - trades happen. That was then, you being an ass is now. It wasn't a trade. You sent me a gift and I thanked you. A month or two later I sent you one and you didn't thank me. Your manners are appalling. I'm through responding to you. Take it to private email, where I can ignore you, or keep ranting in public, where everyone can ignore you. Your choice. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:32:48 -0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= Subject: SV: [AVALON] In My Mind There seems to be many "In your mind"-fans out there. Maybe it's time for a CD-tree of a complete "In your mind"-gig? With the whole album live (except Rock of ages) + classic Ferry/Roxy tracks from previous releases! But wasn't John O'B going to tree the Roxy Dublin 2001 first?????????? opd - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Firmin To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: [AVALON] In My Mind > Some people thought I gave a pretty accurate description of this album, so I > thought I'd post it here as well and put the subject to rest. > > Original message: > Subject: In Your Mind > > I've been following some of this and I'd like to give you some of my input. > In Your Mind is Ferry's masterpiece. It's his Pet Sounds and his Sgt. > Pepper. Upon first hearing this, I was blown away. Surely, these must be > covers? Old Motown classics, reworked by Ferry? No, they were all written by > Ferry. Oh My God, he's a genius. He assembled the most outstanding band > since Roxy Music. They're better than Roxy Music. Chris Spedding is a guitar > demi-God. I don't need layers of unnecessary bullshit to get the message. > Sgt. Pepper was done on a four-track. This is what Roxy could have become! I > know an album is great if I can give it repeated listening and never tire of > it. The other stuff might be good as background dinner music, but In Your > Mind is a headphone classic! Brilliant through and through! > > David > > *** > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:49:52 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) I did thank you for the CD ... but thats not the point of discussion now, and is frankly irrelevant. Just as your comment that i was offended by your CDs was another wild leap away from the discussion. Why do you feel its acceptable to take a great person's suffering and trivialize it. You can change subjects and jump all around the box, but thats the only subject I'm making a point about here. And you attempting taking the view of Dr King to "shame me" is tasteless and petty. But it fits your style - have a great day. N. S. Koff wrote: > At 10:15 AM 1/22/02, you wrote: > >> Don't you ever get it - its got nothing to do with you personally >>- I'd tell anyone who was so thoughtless as to trivialize Dr King that >>they were trite - you did and you were. >> > > Why do you think it's your job to criticize people? MLK would probably find > your incessant nagging and criticism insufferable. Get over that bad habit. > > > >> The past has nothing to do with it - I sent you Cds, you sent me >>Cds - trades happen. That was then, you being an ass is now. >> > > It wasn't a trade. You sent me a gift and I thanked you. A month or two > later I sent you one and you didn't thank me. Your manners are appalling. > I'm through responding to you. Take it to private email, where I can ignore > you, or keep ranting in public, where everyone can ignore you. Your choice. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:49:31 +0000 From: richarde66@mac.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] In My Mind Sorry but IYM is not Ferry's Pet Sounds. There is only one Pet Sounds and if Bryan was going to have one it ain't IYM Cheers Richard On Tuesday, January 22, 2002, at 05:02 , David Firmin wrote: > Some people thought I gave a pretty accurate description of this album, > so I > thought I'd post it here as well and put the subject to rest. > > Original message: > Subject: In Your Mind > > I've been following some of this and I'd like to give you some of my > input. > In Your Mind is Ferry's masterpiece. It's his Pet Sounds and his Sgt. > Pepper. Upon first hearing this, I was blown away. Surely, these must be > covers? Old Motown classics, reworked by Ferry? No, they were all > written by > Ferry. Oh My God, he's a genius. He assembled the most outstanding band > since Roxy Music. They're better than Roxy Music. Chris Spedding is a > guitar > demi-God. I don't need layers of unnecessary bullshit to get the > message. > Sgt. Pepper was done on a four-track. This is what Roxy could have > become! I > know an album is great if I can give it repeated listening and never > tire of > it. The other stuff might be good as background dinner music, but In > Your > Mind is a headphone classic! Brilliant through and through! > > David > > *** > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:02:19 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) At 11:49 AM 1/22/02, you wrote: > I did thank you for the CD ... And now you lie. You're pathetic. Plonk. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:14:00 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) Sending your insult three times still doesn't change the fact that you are trite and petty and in bad taste for using "I Had a Dream" as a message subject yesterday. Its like making racist jokes and then saying "Hey, you are a liar" ... still doesn't change the fact. -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:21:03 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) Well at least the irony apparent in this thread is on topic. So, how about that upcoming Ferry release? Any idea of what the cover art will look like? Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 12:31:06 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) At 12:21 PM 1/22/02, you wrote: >Well at least the irony apparent in this thread is on topic. > >So, how about that upcoming Ferry release? Any idea of what the cover art >will look like? > >Colleen Yeah, but I'm sworn to secrecy. Sorry, but you never know when the "Ferry Police" are watching! Nick N/P: Would You Believe - RM, July 1972 Roxy Trade Page: http://boootlegs.com/roxy.htm Roxy Trade Page - Text Only: http://boootlegs.com/bootxt04.htm Other Trade Stuff: http://boootlegs.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 15:46:36 EST From: Helchat@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cover art That is my biggest question for the upcoming album, and i'm wondering if he used a woman for the cover or himself again. Helene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:31:02 -0500 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] I Had a point with Neeeek Okay NEEEEK - I've found the attached in my sent mail archive - Read to the whole list what the FIRST LINE of my email to you said ... the one that says " ... thanks for the Cds" - that was in reference to the LA Cds you sent I'll accept that public apology immediately NEVER call me a LIAR unless you know what you are talking about - - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of N. S. Koff Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 3:02 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Cc: hjames@thewebgal.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) At 11:49 AM 1/22/02, you wrote: > I did thank you for the CD ... And now you lie. You're pathetic. Plonk. ___________________________________________________________________________ - -----Original Message----- From: Heather James [mailto:hjames@thewebgal.com] Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 4:11 PM To: neeek@wgn.net Subject: RE: [AVALON] "Taking Refuge In Pleasure-Baltimore '74" I'll pass on more cover-art - but thanks for the Cds - guess the mail is slow this time of year on top of the DC area security stuff. Anyway - for the most part, I'm out of trading for a while - I'm fed up with rip-offs and the fussy arrogant types that haven't got anything to trade but won't admit it. I'm tired of "excellent quality" shows that sound like they were duped on my old Norelco Carrycorder - or worse, have some yuppy princess yakking through the whole concert - and no one had the cajones to tell them to shut up or leave the arena. Bad enough when folks yak throughj a $5 movie, but yakking through a one time concert - throw the bums out! Besides, I've been shorted a lot this year and now I'm going through another round of hardware wars - this time between a new scanner that wants USB connection and the SCSI card that runs my burner ... bottom line is I'm buying another burner and reconfigging things - AFTER the holidays ... Its not fun right now - so I'm outta heyah for a bit! -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Heather James Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 2:50 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Had A Dream... (MLKjr Ref. for Non-Americans) I did thank you for the CD ... but thats not the point of discussion now, and is frankly irrelevant. Just as your comment that i was offended by your CDs was another wild leap away from the discussion. Why do you feel its acceptable to take a great person's suffering and trivialize it. You can change subjects and jump all around the box, but thats the only subject I'm making a point about here. And you attempting taking the view of Dr King to "shame me" is tasteless and petty. But it fits your style - have a great day. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:49:05 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: RE: [AVALON] I Had a point with Neeeek Oh, yes, of course. The throwaway line you wrote before you got them. Well, in the finest Clintonian, parsed terms, we've arrived at the classic "he said, she said." Now see if you can find something in the files that indicates that after I sent them to you, you took that 30 seconds to thank me for including you in the select group of two, pre-release offering of a show that I taped 18 years ago, burned to the computer and sent you AFTER you received it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I ever heard of you, and I'm sure, somewhere in heaven, MLK, Jr. is glad he never did. Get a life, would you, and stop sniping at people. There's a golden rule -- if you follow it, and cast not the first stone every time that little heart on your sleeve bleats, you'll be a happier person. I think you're just mad because in my dream it was Anthony Newley, and not Freddie Mercury, who did the duet with Mr. Ferry. At 01:31 PM 1/22/02, you wrote: ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:59:13 -0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= Subject: SV: [AVALON] I Had a point with Neeeek I'm sorry to interupt, but isn't this discussion rather silly? Please be careful both of you, so you don't get an ulcer. doc - ----- Original Message ----- From: N. S. Koff To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] I Had a point with Neeeek > Oh, yes, of course. The throwaway line you wrote before you got them. Well, > in the finest Clintonian, parsed terms, we've arrived at the classic "he > said, she said." Now see if you can find something in the files that > indicates that after I sent them to you, you took that 30 seconds to thank > me for including you in the select group of two, pre-release offering of a > show that I taped 18 years ago, burned to the computer and sent you AFTER > you received it. > > I'm sorry. I'm sorry I ever heard of you, and I'm sure, somewhere in > heaven, MLK, Jr. is glad he never did. Get a life, would you, and stop > sniping at people. There's a golden rule -- if you follow it, and cast not > the first stone every time that little heart on your sleeve bleats, you'll > be a happier person. > > I think you're just mad because in my dream it was Anthony Newley, and not > Freddie Mercury, who did the duet with Mr. Ferry. > > At 01:31 PM 1/22/02, you wrote: > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #22 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest