From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #575 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, December 18 2001 Volume 06 : Number 575 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" ["Christian H. Soetemann" ] Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" [CoconutTears@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin ["Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" Agreed, a great song, but live it did tend to become a bit of a guitar wank-a-thon with Spedding avoiding the tune for ten minutes! SimonG >>> 12/16 5:10 pm >>> This is one of those songs that should have become a "standard" in Our Man's repetiore: cool chord structure, great lyric, lost love romantic theme, great bass part, and its built for solo-ists. Like many of our fave Bryan tunes (Mother of Pearl,If There is Something, DreamHomeHeartache) it divides into two distinct movements. Wish he'd play this on more of his tours...maybe next time! Andrew (hung over) In Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:44:33 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin I know a lot of you are Bowie fans, this is a very interesting development: DAVID BOWIE, one of the most influential musicians and writers in popular music, has taken the unprecedented step for an artist of his standing and decided not to re-sign with his record company, Virgin Records, choosing instead, to create his own small, independent label. On Thursday morning Bowie's business representatives, RZO, sent a letter to Virgin Records stating that "We respectfully decline your attempts to negotiate a new contract in light of the missed option pick-up of a year ago." All David Bowie's future recordings, including the hotly tipped new album that he is recording with long-time collaborator Tony Visconti, will be released on ISO, his new label. On taking the whole recording and marketing process into his own hands Bowie commented "I've had one too many years of bumping heads with corporate structure. Many times I've not been in agreement with how things are done and as a writer of some proliferation, frustrated at how slow and lumbering it all is. I've dreamed of embarking on my own set-up for such a long time and now is the perfect opportunity." David Bowie's label ISO, which was registered as a record label over a year ago, will be based out of New York and London and has already signed two new artists, one solo and one band. Bowie and Visconti have also recently moved their projects into their own recording studio in Manhattan, New York, in anticipation of this new departure. Said Bowie, "I want to keep the whole experience at a human level. To characterize ISO, I think I would use guitarist Robert Fripp's phrase and describe it as aiming to be 'a small, mobile, intelligent unit'." David Bowie was able to make this bold step as a result of an overlooked option in his previous deal with Virgin Records. "With smaller, more focussed labels such as Relentless in London (3 number ones) and Artimus in the US proving that creativity and commercial success can go hand in hand, the chance is there to be taken and Bowie is the perfect candidate to pull it off." From BowieNet. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:38:49 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin This is great news! Thanks, Simon! David Bowie is fortunate to have been able to disassociate himself from undesirable corporate wrangles, opting instead for his own label and all the creative independence it has to offer. Should be interesting to see what direction his music takes with all that autonomy. I imagine these 'small' recording companies, which start by offering artistic flexibility, if successful, become mired in structure as the organization grows. The structure becomes more centralized and 'corporate'. The resulting need of conformity ultimately dictates the structure. What was once productive becomes less so. (Perhaps it becomes as stifling as today's big recording companies.) The evolution has revolved full circle. But the infancy of these 'upstarts' should produce some very good and interesting music. Would Bryan Ferry consider such a vehicle for his work? It might be a dream come true - artistic control of one's own product. Or perhaps, it could become a nightmare for a perfection-retentive artist. Does anyone know if BF is a free agent? KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:47:33 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: [AVALON] [OFF LIST] - Oh Naughty Sneaky Cheeky Cheeky mail on the way - Is safe and friendly holiday gesture ... Quiet slipstream of local origin ... Manilla fun to be seen before the weekend ... Have fun - but mucho secreto - kindly to have no comments in peanut gallery No mention in list of babylon and on ... Ferry well holiday festivies Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhsh - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:23:23 EST From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" In a message dated 12/17/01 3:30:55 AM, SIMONG@jazzfm.com writes: << Agreed, a great song, but live it did tend to become a bit of a guitar wank-a-thon with Spedding avoiding the tune for ten minutes! >> And your problem with this is? Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:08:38 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" I'm so pleasantly surprised at the positive response LMMA & IYM has had on this strand, IYM is without doubt Ferrys lost masterpiece, cruelly ignored by the man himself and record compilations. LMMA is a beautiful song written in Ferrys wonderful two handed lost soul way. Ferrys upper hand in love (If there is Something?/Beauty Queen) lyric is now gone forever but with this song we get perhaps the most autobiographical of lyrics: "Don't make it easy for me, Some like it tough you see Loving is easy for me A whole lotta love has passed this way" The melody for this song is wonderful and haunting, Ann Odell strings are a classic solo in their own right. The IYM tour was great if only for the size & quality of the musicians used. I love this song & its parent IYM, also I think it was Ferrys last great lyrical album, there have been moments of greatness since, but nothing as complete as this. The greatest pity is that Ferry does not feel the same, IYM is like a child who has been abandoned by its parent, never let out to play with its friends to enjoy its company, I would love to hear LMMA, Party Doll & IYM included in his next tour. Terry "O" NP: Tokyo Joe. PS: Collete you must be congratulated on your SOTW thread & your varied & impartial choice each week, well done. I wonder which little golden nugget you are going to insert into our minds as 2001 fades & the most memorial Roxy year since 1973 disappears & in comes 2002 with the hopes of a new album & tour. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:29:31 -0500 From: "Pete Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin Bowie an artist of some proliferation? This from the guy who puts out an album slightly more often than Byan Ferry these days. I hope he succeeds. It would be nice to have another Bowie classic again. Pete S. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Galloway" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin > I know a lot of you are Bowie fans, this is a very interesting development: > > DAVID BOWIE, one of the most influential musicians and writers in popular music, has taken the unprecedented step for an artist of his standing and decided not to re-sign with his record company, Virgin Records, choosing instead, to create his own small, independent label. On Thursday morning Bowie's business representatives, RZO, sent a letter to Virgin Records stating that "We respectfully decline your attempts to negotiate a new contract in light of the missed option pick-up of a year ago." > > All David Bowie's future recordings, including the hotly tipped new album that he is recording with long-time collaborator Tony Visconti, will be released on ISO, his new label. > > On taking the whole recording and marketing process into his own hands Bowie commented "I've had one too many years of bumping heads with corporate structure. Many times I've not been in agreement with how things are done and as a writer of some proliferation, frustrated at how slow and lumbering it all is. I've dreamed of embarking on my own set-up for such a long time and now is the perfect opportunity." > > David Bowie's label ISO, which was registered as a record label over a year ago, will be based out of New York and London and has already signed two new artists, one solo and one band. Bowie and Visconti have also recently moved their projects into their own recording studio in Manhattan, New York, in anticipation of this new departure. > > Said Bowie, "I want to keep the whole experience at a human level. To characterize ISO, I think I would use guitarist Robert Fripp's phrase and describe it as aiming to be 'a small, mobile, intelligent unit'." > > David Bowie was able to make this bold step as a result of an overlooked option in his previous deal with Virgin Records. > > "With smaller, more focussed labels such as Relentless in London (3 number ones) and Artimus in the US proving that creativity and commercial success can go hand in hand, the chance is there to be taken and Bowie is the perfect candidate to pull it off." > > From BowieNet. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:59:54 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin To be fair, it's been an album every 2 years, and at least two classics in recent years. Let's consider his public activity since 1989... 1989 - album and tour 1990 - tour 1991 - album and tour 1992 - live album 1993 - 2 albums 1995 - album and tour 1996 - tour 1997 - album and tour 1999 - album and mini tour 2000 - mini tour 2001 - one album ready for release (but so far hasn't been and that's probably a major factor in his decision to leave Virgin/EMI) SimonG >>> "Pete Seely" 12/17 2:29 pm >>> Bowie an artist of some proliferation? This from the guy who puts out an album slightly more often than Byan Ferry these days. I hope he succeeds. It would be nice to have another Bowie classic again. Pete S. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:49:09 -0500 From: "Pete Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin I guess he is a bit more prolific than I realized. But which albums would you consider "classics"? The last one for me would be "Scary Monsters." Pete S. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Galloway" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin > To be fair, it's been an album every 2 years, and at least two classics in recent years. Let's consider his public activity since 1989... > > 1989 - album and tour > 1990 - tour > 1991 - album and tour > 1992 - live album > 1993 - 2 albums > 1995 - album and tour > 1996 - tour > 1997 - album and tour > 1999 - album and mini tour > 2000 - mini tour > 2001 - one album ready for release (but so far hasn't been and that's probably a major factor in his decision to leave Virgin/EMI) > > SimonG > > >>> "Pete Seely" 12/17 2:29 pm >>> > Bowie an artist of some proliferation? This from the guy who puts out an > album slightly more often than Byan Ferry these days. > > I hope he succeeds. It would be nice to have another Bowie classic again. > > Pete S. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:12:34 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin Buddah Of Suburbia, Outside. And Black Tie White Noise is becoming one of my firm faves too! Outside is considered one of Bowie's greatest works by many fans (but not me). And I've never been too keen on Scary Monsters myself! SimonG >>> "Pete Seely" 12/17 3:49 pm >>> I guess he is a bit more prolific than I realized. But which albums would you consider "classics"? The last one for me would be "Scary Monsters." Pete S. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Galloway" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin > To be fair, it's been an album every 2 years, and at least two classics in recent years. Let's consider his public activity since 1989... > > 1989 - album and tour > 1990 - tour > 1991 - album and tour > 1992 - live album > 1993 - 2 albums > 1995 - album and tour > 1996 - tour > 1997 - album and tour > 1999 - album and mini tour > 2000 - mini tour > 2001 - one album ready for release (but so far hasn't been and that's probably a major factor in his decision to leave Virgin/EMI) > > SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:17:48 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Big Country singer found dead The lead singer of Big Country, Stuart Adamson, has been found dead in Hawaii. Full story here: http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_475643.html?menu=entertainment .latestheadlines *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:27:47 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] New solo lp delayed til..... Here we go again. I hear that the new Ferry solo lp has been delayed til March (2002) while he tinkers with one of the tracks. Any one else losing patience? Jonathan n/p John Inman 'Inman sings Cohen' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:34:09 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New solo lp delayed til..... Only March? I'd heard May! SimonG >>> 12/17 5:27 pm >>> Here we go again. I hear that the new Ferry solo lp has been delayed til March (2002) while he tinkers with one of the tracks. Any one else losing patience? Jonathan n/p John Inman 'Inman sings Cohen' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:40:23 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] New solo lp delayed til..... In a message dated 17/12/01 17:37:51 GMT Standard Time, SIMONG@jazzfm.com writes: > Only March? I'd heard May! > > SimonG Ruddy hell. This is turning into a bloody saga now! Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:49:40 -0800 (PST) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" Well....this does bring back memories..... It's probably around the time that I got into Roxy/Ferry. Not being able to afford a record deck, I obtained a taped copy of "In Your Mind". It changed my life because it was probably the first Roxy/Ferry album that I got into seriously. "In Your Mind" remains my favourite Ferry album and this is one of my favourite songs from it (the other contendor being "All Night Operator") My interpretation is that "Love Me Madly" is raw and erotic - maybe other people will interpret it differently. Great Song, Great Album Aleks Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:18:21 +0000 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" Some thoughts on LMMA: - - A very good song with an exceptional bass line in the second part of the song, but personally, even though IYM (the song) was the track that provided a giant spark for my interest in Ferry's music, I can see why he doesn't really favour this album. Sometimes there is just too little space, too much brass, too many backing vox, a sound a tad too saccharine - the soundscape not having the possibility to unfold like on Ferry's later albums - and there, he has used even more recording tracks in the studio! - - On LMMA, Ferry delivers a top vocal performance. I have wondered whether the "Don't make it easy for me..." part is a bit ironic, but there's that Ferry magic again: it works well both ways - with and without hyperbole. - - Lyrically, typical Ferry topics reoccur, the line "Uncertain, out of reach" representing some kind of quintessential Ferry (to me) - the unattainability of what is being desired the most. - - Bring on the new album. You may have disagreed with all the above points, but not with this one, right? Christian - ---------- >Von: "terrypaulrigz8c" >An: >Betreff: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" >Datum: Mon, 17. Dez 2001 15:08 Uhr > >I'm so pleasantly surprised at the positive response LMMA & IYM has had on >this strand, IYM is without doubt Ferrys lost masterpiece, cruelly ignored >by the man himself and record compilations. LMMA is a beautiful song written >in Ferrys wonderful two handed lost soul way. Ferrys upper hand in love (If >there is Something?/Beauty Queen) lyric is now gone forever but with this >song we get perhaps the most autobiographical of lyrics: >"Don't make it easy for me, >Some like it tough you see >Loving is easy for me >A whole lotta love has passed this way" >The melody for this song is wonderful and haunting, Ann Odell strings are a >classic solo in their own right. >The IYM tour was great if only for the size & quality of the musicians used. >I love this song & its parent IYM, also I think it was Ferrys last great >lyrical album, there have been moments of greatness since, but nothing as >complete as this. The greatest pity is that Ferry does not feel the same, >IYM is like a child who has been abandoned by its parent, never let out to >play with its friends to enjoy its company, I would love to hear LMMA, Party >Doll & IYM included in his next tour. > >Terry "O" > >NP: Tokyo Joe. > >PS: Collete you must be congratulated on your SOTW thread & your varied & >impartial choice each week, well done. I wonder which little golden nugget >you are going to insert into our minds as 2001 fades & the most memorial >Roxy year since 1973 disappears & in comes 2002 with the hopes of a new >album & tour. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:05:53 -0500 From: "Strimples" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New solo lp delayed til..... A little birdy told me Autumn? And that he will have SOME tour dates before the album comes out? And the Roxy DVD will be out around april. Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] New solo lp delayed til..... > Here we go again. > > I hear that the new Ferry solo lp has been delayed til March (2002) while he > tinkers with one of the tracks. > > Any one else losing patience? > > Jonathan > > n/p John Inman 'Inman sings Cohen' > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ___ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:15:42 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin - ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Seely To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin > I guess he is a bit more prolific than I realized. But which albums would > you consider "classics"? The last one for me would be "Scary Monsters." > > Pete S. For Me it would be: Hunky Dory Ziggy Stardust Alladin Sane Station To Station Low Scary Monsters. All the other 70s originals were pretty close, with perhaps the exception of Lodger. Bowie was a truly exceptional talent in the 70s, but I don't believe he will produce another classic album (Ferry also for that matter). Terry "O" ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:10:22 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin At 21.15 +0100 1-12-17, terrypaulrigz8c wrote: >For Me it would be: >Hunky Dory >Ziggy Stardust >Alladin Sane >Station To Station >Low >Scary Monsters. I'll add "Heroes" to that list but otherwise I'll agree with you. >All the other 70s originals were pretty close, with perhaps the exception of >Lodger. Bowie was a truly exceptional talent in the 70s, but I don't believe >he will produce another classic album (Ferry also for that matter). Well Ferry did that with Mamouna in my humble opinion. NP Glenn Medeiros Nothing's gonna change my love God jul och gott nytt er. Merry Xmas and a happy new year. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:40:07 -0500 From: "Pete Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin Personally, I'd also throw in "Diamond Dogs" and "Heroes." Pete S. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrypaulrigz8c" To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pete Seely > To: > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:49 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin > > > > I guess he is a bit more prolific than I realized. But which albums would > > you consider "classics"? The last one for me would be "Scary Monsters." > > > > Pete S. > > For Me it would be: > Hunky Dory > Ziggy Stardust > Alladin Sane > Station To Station > Low > Scary Monsters. > > All the other 70s originals were pretty close, with perhaps the exception of > Lodger. Bowie was a truly exceptional talent in the 70s, but I don't believe > he will produce another classic album (Ferry also for that matter). > > Terry "O" > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:18:20 -0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= Subject: SV: [AVALON] Love me madly again... This is from my sisters favorite Ferry album. I even made her a t-shirt with the cover-art once for her birthday. I remember once that my sister was going to have an english-test at school. Instead of the usual studying of the grammar etc, she decided to memorize some of Bryan's lyrics . She got a straight A !!! I guess it in a way says something about the quality of the lyrics. B.t.w. LMMA is REALLY one of my favorite Ferry songs. ......... and Simon: I really love the live version! Ole ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:25:35 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin Hi Pete & Daniel, Great comments, of course it's all a personal view, but in my book a classic album has to have all classic tracks. Here are my reasons for not giving the following albums "Classic Status". "Diamond Dogs" - Will you Rock "n" Roll with me. "Heroes" - Sense of Doubt. "Young Americans" - Right. "Mamouna" - Don't want to know/N.Y.C. & Wildcat Days. Sorry folks. Terry "O" ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:32:46 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] The Thick Plottens... I don't mean to get your hopes up, but my weekly e-mail from www.eil.com today included this intriguing item.... BRYAN FERRY T.B.A (2002 Japanese CD album, picture sleeve + obi-strip, more details to follow...) ** due March 2002 ** #28.99 I phoned them this afternoon, but they could tell me nothing more than that the release date was late February, with the stock due in the UK in March, and that they were unlikely to have more information until the New Year. There's no indication as to whether this is a compilation or new material, but Slave To Love did set a precedent by having a release in Sweden and Japan before the rest of the world. Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:00:41 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > PS: Collete you must be congratulated on your SOTW thread & your > varied & impartial choice each week, well done. I wonder which little > golden nugget you are going to insert into our minds as 2001 fades & > the most memorial Roxy year since 1973 disappears & in comes 2002 with > the hopes of a new album & tour. Thanks, Terry! I will admit that I already have an idea about the bridge between 2001 and 2002, but I also have to make a confession: I'm not sure how impartial my choice is this week. You see, it's been an extremely busy few weeks, and while they haven't been without laughter and their good moments, I still felt I wanted to indulge myself this week and talk about a really good song--for that's what I think "Love Me Madly Again" is. In fact, _In Your Mind_ is easily my favorite solo Ferry album. I can't tell you why I think it's so fantastic--I can't say that the songs are timeless, for I think they locate themselves quite easily into a discrete timeframe. But what is so stunning about this album are Ferry's strong, interesting, intelligent vocals, the raw emotion of the songs, and the wonderful music that all of the musicians play. This album isn't just about Ferry singing; this album is about the band too. When I come back to IYM after a hiatus, at first I'm usually a bit puzzled when "Love Me Madly Again" begins as to why I love this song so much. At first it's like "Street Live Redux" and while it's strong, it's not deserving of such praise. But then, sometime around the time the call and response part kicks in, I'm listening more intently, not only to Ferry's singing, but to everyone else who is playing and how perfect the setting is, how the songs moves on so effortlessly in this, well "elastic band" is the only expression I can think of, way that is just p e r f e c t. In every way. But then comes the bridge which becomes the coda, when Ferry sings > And who can draw the line > A strand from me to you > A world apart, a smile > Loving is easy > Hard to end > Love letters tearing > Love me madly again and the song, the singer, and the musicians just go into orbit. There are songs from Mr. Ferry's career which are more poignant, which are harder-edged, which are more raw, which are darker. But there are few, if any, which better capture that breathless, whirling, claustrophobic feeling of love mixed with desire. I've never heard the song live at a show, and I don't have any boots with it on it, so I can't tell how it translates from the studio (and I have to confess that despite my great love of it, my only copy is an ancient cassette which sometimes plays at a rather erratic tempo...hmmmm, time to do something about that, I think). Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:14:06 EST From: CoconutTears@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Love Me Madly Again" In a message dated 12/17/01 7:02:06 PM, cjem@his.com writes: << my only copy is an ancient cassette >> Hey, I feel better now. I've had this only on vinyl since my first era of infatuation with Mr. Sophisto, and kept forgetting to transfer it to cassette when I'd set up the old Victrola. Got it on CD today from eBay after my check had wandered around NY for a month, and it's like having a whole new delicious album to savor. "First" impressions are IYM--strong album LMMA--the best track. Must go back and have another nibble...Yummy... Karen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:25:39 -0600 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin >From: "Pete Seely" >Bowie an artist of some proliferation? This from the guy who puts out an >album slightly more often than Byan Ferry these days. Pete, you might want to go out to www.cdnow.com and add up how many albums Bowie/Tin Machine put out in the last 10-15 yrs vs. Ferry. It not even close! And I'm even allowing Bryan's 2 rehashes to be included.... Rod _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:27:46 -0800 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin - ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Seely To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin Being a huge Bowie fan I am quite biased, but for me "Outside" (co-produced by Eno) is a classic, and "Black Tie White Noise" a near classic. Keith NP: Fake Plastic Trees / Radiohead > I guess he is a bit more prolific than I realized. But which albums would > you consider "classics"? The last one for me would be "Scary Monsters." > > Pete S. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Galloway" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:59 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin > > > > To be fair, it's been an album every 2 years, and at least two classics in > recent years. Let's consider his public activity since 1989... > > > > 1989 - album and tour > > 1990 - tour > > 1991 - album and tour > > 1992 - live album > > 1993 - 2 albums > > 1995 - album and tour > > 1996 - tour > > 1997 - album and tour > > 1999 - album and mini tour > > 2000 - mini tour > > 2001 - one album ready for release (but so far hasn't been and that's > probably a major factor in his decision to leave Virgin/EMI) > > > > SimonG > > > > >>> "Pete Seely" 12/17 2:29 pm >>> > > Bowie an artist of some proliferation? This from the guy who puts out an > > album slightly more often than Byan Ferry these days. > > > > I hope he succeeds. It would be nice to have another Bowie classic again. > > > > Pete S. > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:32:02 -0800 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin - ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Atterbom To: Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF TOPIC - Bowie quits Virgin My previous post regarding classic Bowie albums referred only to his work since Scary Monsters. If you are considering his entire catalogue, then i would include everything he did in the 70's...everything! Keith NP: Let's Roll / Neil Young > At 21.15 +0100 1-12-17, terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > >For Me it would be: > >Hunky Dory > >Ziggy Stardust > >Alladin Sane > >Station To Station > >Low > >Scary Monsters. > > I'll add "Heroes" to that list but otherwise I'll agree with you. > > >All the other 70s originals were pretty close, with perhaps the exception of > >Lodger. Bowie was a truly exceptional talent in the 70s, but I don't believe > >he will produce another classic album (Ferry also for that matter). > > Well Ferry did that with Mamouna in my humble opinion. > > NP Glenn Medeiros Nothing's gonna change my love > > God jul och gott nytt er. Merry Xmas and a happy new year. > > Daniel > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #575 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest