From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #568 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, December 12 2001 Volume 06 : Number 568 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Start rite? ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [KRNCHSE@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [KRNCHSE@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Off Line ["tmoq" ] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [KB Porter ] RE: [AVALON] Start rite? ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [KRNCHSE@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [Heather James ] RE: [AVALON] Start rite? ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] RE: [AVALON] Start rite? [bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick)] RE: [AVALON] Start rite? ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [Heather James ] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? ["Judy Kaufman" ] RE: [AVALON] Start rite? [David ] Re: [AVALON] "Moon River".. by Bryan Ferry? [Helchat@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] "Moon River".. by Bryan Ferry? [neeek@wgn.net] [AVALON] NDRW Branch... ["Webwolf" ] [AVALON] 2 New Shows [neeek@wgn.net] [AVALON] Martini Bachelor Pad ["PeteK" ] [AVALON] (no subject) ["Kari Solberg" ] Re: [AVALON] Martini Bachelor Pad [AMeyersLD@aol.com] [AVALON] I Love Helene...and if you have a pulse, you do, too! ["Gregory ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:07:13 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Start rite? From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) >But what WAS he thinking of? Money quite frankly Bill. I work for the Agency that produced this sorry piece of advertising and had an "interesting" discussion with the team behind the ads about the validity of the "personalities" they chose and the lameness of the advertising strategy. If Startrite were producing mini-Gucci's then maybe, just maybe, they would have got away with the Ferry connection. But shiny red booties?? Come on! I know how much Ferry got for a one day shoot with one of his favourite photographers (Clive Arrowsmith). Nice work if you can get it. I found it particularly sad as it was the first piece of advertising seen in Britain to feature the Fez Meister in person and did him no favours in the decision making department. >I thought the ad was witty and charming. Must our rock'n'roll heroes always conform to a tired hell raising, stereotype? Martino and I agreed to differ the last time this thread came round (after all it's subjective whether you like it or not) but as far as appearing in ads go, you choose a personality for their brand values and to associate them with your own brand values. The public's view of Ferry is not as a tired hell raising rock'n'roller (so he's hardly changing public perception on that level) it's as a stylish man with exquisite taste (which IS at odds with the tawdry world of rock'n'roll). And he only proved that his taste can, on occasion, let him down. Having said all this, the Startrite posters have become something of a collector's item. Hmmmmm, isn't there a Mad Affair 2 Raffle in the pipeline? Jocelyn (ransacking our agency archives) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:09:40 EST From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? In a message dated 12/11/2001 6:15:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com writes: And he only proved that his taste can, on occasion, let him down. Thankfully not too often Jocelyn...........didn't I see he had removed the miniature Magpie strip from the rear window of the Range Rover?It was however nice to see the pink baby bootees adorning his rear view mirror soon after the birth of Otis.Just another doting Father,no less?Yeah............no menace! Regards, DM well i'm drunk today........ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:05:00 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? < pink baby bootees > ????? Was he expecting a girl? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:11:24 EST From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? They were a gift from Mr Price................................ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:14:44 -0500 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off Line Due to problems with my on-line service I won`t be at this e-mail address probably after today. I`ll get back asap. Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:30:22 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? < They were a gift from Mr Price.... > Living vicariously, or precariously? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:30:21 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Start rite? >didn't I see he had removed the miniature Magpie strip from the rear window of the Range Rover? Ah, you can take the Mag out of the car but you can't take the Mag out of the man. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:50:19 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? "Must our rock'n'roll heroes always conform to a tired hellraising, stereotype?" If Martin means, 'must our heroes always conform to the stereotype created within our thoughts', then I concur! It seems some fans suffer from a self-induced trance that demands their idol be impeccably fresh and beyond fashionably chic while maintaining a bizarre stasis of continuity - that of upholding the created stereotype. Most things outside the stereotypic mold are met with despairing criticisms. In Bryan Ferry's case, this list often reads remarks such as; his current work is inferior - he is unable to produce the refreshing witticisms of the first two albums; anything since Avalon is crap; he's been stuck in this banal dark mode since Boys And Girls, and I'm sick of it, and he needs to change, etc. There is no need to praise one facet of BF's talent while debasing another facet of his talent - the talent's source is the same. There is no use in decrying any period of Bryan Ferry's work since any period is defensible in real terms. Correct me should I be wrong, but to my knowledge Bryan Ferry is a real living human being (unlike some Avalon List posters:) and is not a Ken doll. He is entitled to all the mistakes, successes, disappointments and frailties that life has to offer everyone of us. So why do some fans insist on pigeon-holing and deriding BF's attempts and accomplishments (or lack of attempt or accomplishment)? Why not look at what BF has done and find appreciation for his work, rather than trying to fill his skeleton with preconceived notions of how one thinks BF should be and endless demands for what one may want him to be. It is possible that Bryan Ferry is doing his best to be the person he wishes to be given every aspect of his life. Why not live and let live. This is not to say that fans may not be critical of their idol's output, but let those criticisms be of substance! If you like some part of Ferry's work, say so and rationally say why. If you don't care for some facet of his work, then say so and rationally (and politely) say why. It is also very important to maintain a distinction between Roxy Music (the band) and Bryan Ferry (an artist) in our respective posts. This is basic to productive discussion. [[ > Couldn't that sort of lawful, yet troubling, expression of opinion > lead to less-than-glowing reviews of aspects of Bete Noire, and > Mamouna, for example, and possibly kick off some sort of pre/post > Avalon arguments? Only if we're lucky.]] We should be so lucky! :^) Best wishes, KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:57:21 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? "The public's view of Ferry is ... as a stylish man with exquisite taste" And Startrite shoes are ... stylish, for persons of exquisite taste? If the shoe fits....... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:03:37 EST From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? In a message dated 12/11/2001 10:38:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com writes: > Ah, you can take the Mag out of the car but you can't take the Mag out of > the man. He's in a car ,in the Mag,it's in the can! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:06:15 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? Hey, enough of this shoe shilliness - what happened to the ongoing debate about how Paul is the worlds finest drummer and that Bryan can't make a good album with out him and Andy! Besides, I don't think you can get Startrite shoes in the US easily ... -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< KB Porter wrote: > "Must our rock'n'roll heroes always conform to a tired hellraising, > stereotype?" > > If Martin means, 'must our heroes always conform to the stereotype > created within our thoughts', then I concur! > > It seems some fans suffer from a self-induced trance that demands their > idol be impeccably fresh and beyond fashionably chic while maintaining a > bizarre stasis of continuity - that of upholding the created > stereotype. Most things outside the stereotypic mold are met with > despairing criticisms. > > In Bryan Ferry's case, this list often reads remarks such as; his > current work is inferior - > he is unable to produce the refreshing witticisms of the first two > albums; > anything since Avalon is crap; he's been stuck in this banal dark mode > since Boys And Girls, and I'm sick of it, and he needs to change, etc. > > There is no need to praise one facet of BF's talent while debasing > another facet of his talent - the talent's source is the same. There > is no use in decrying any period of Bryan Ferry's work since any period > is defensible in real terms. > > Correct me should I be wrong, but to my knowledge Bryan Ferry is a real > living human being (unlike some Avalon List posters:) and is not a Ken > doll. He is entitled to all the mistakes, successes, disappointments > and frailties that life has to offer everyone of us. So why do some > fans insist on pigeon-holing and deriding BF's attempts and > accomplishments (or lack of attempt or accomplishment)? Why not look at > what BF has done and find appreciation for his work, rather than trying > to fill his skeleton with preconceived notions of how one thinks BF > should be and endless demands for what one may want him to be. It is > possible that Bryan Ferry is doing his best to be the person he wishes > to be given every aspect of his life. Why not live and let live. > > This is not to say that fans may not be critical of their idol's output, > but let those criticisms be of substance! If you like some part of > Ferry's work, say so and rationally say why. If you don't care for some > facet of his work, then say so and rationally (and politely) say why. > It is also very important to maintain a distinction between Roxy Music > (the band) and Bryan Ferry (an artist) in our respective posts. This is > basic to productive discussion. > > [[ > Couldn't that sort of lawful, yet troubling, expression of opinion > >>lead to less-than-glowing reviews of aspects of Bete Noire, and >>Mamouna, for example, and possibly kick off some sort of pre/post >>Avalon arguments? >> > > Only if we're lucky.]] > > We should be so lucky! :^) > Best wishes, KBP > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - -- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:12:19 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Start rite? Besides, I don't think you can get Startrite shoes in the US easily ... You're not wrong Heather, but with a little help from a search engine you'll find they are available in the US from www.expatshopping.com!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:37 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) Subject: RE: [AVALON] Start rite? In article <0B4D67264760B249B146CFE6BB2024F8A45343@NT-GPS-EXCH0>, Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com (Fiske, Jocelyn) wrote: > From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) > > >But what WAS he thinking of? > Money quite frankly Bill. Funny, that's exactly what I'd guessed. 1998 was hardly an 'annus mirabilis' for Mr F so, next question, what was the agency thinking of? BM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:47:50 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Start rite? - -----Original Message----- From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk [mailto:bmaccormick@cix.co.uk] Sent: 11 December 2001 16:37 To: avalon@smoe.org Cc: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk Subject: RE: [AVALON] Start rite? In article <0B4D67264760B249B146CFE6BB2024F8A45343@NT-GPS-EXCH0>, Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com (Fiske, Jocelyn) wrote: > From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) > > >But what WAS he thinking of? > Money quite frankly Bill. Funny, that's exactly what I'd guessed. 1998 was hardly an 'annus mirabilis' for Mr F so, next question, what was the agency thinking of? BM That was pretty much the question I raised this end (but maybe not quite so politely!) It wasn't even a case of the creatives wanting to meet Ferry, they didn't think much of him prior to the shoot and delighted in telling me what an awkward git he had been on the day (mind you, the fact that Ferry probably knows his best profile a damned sight better than the AD on the shoot never crossed their minds.) The original list of celebs was 24 names long. The finished ads featured Ferry, Julian Clarey and Caprice. I guess they were the only ones who said yes. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:58:16 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? I understand - and while I had friends who drove Triumph GT6s and Mini-Coopers, I still say that some things are not EASILY obtained in the US ... Besides - Startrite is hardly the stuff of legends, just the stuff of cuteness (at best) -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< Fiske, Jocelyn wrote: > Besides, I don't think you can get Startrite shoes in the US easily ... > > > > You're not wrong Heather, but with a little help from a search engine you'll > find they are available in the US from www.expatshopping.com!! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - -- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 18:08:12 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? At 16.50 +0100 1-12-11, KB Porter wrote: >There is no need to praise one facet of BF's talent while debasing >another facet of his talent - the talent's source is the same. There >is no use in decrying any period of Bryan Ferry's work since any period >is defensible in real terms. Bryan Ferry, with or without Roxy Music, is one of the few people who has made albums that I have enjoyed from the 70's, 80's and 90's. As are Brian Eno and Phil Manzanera, with or without Roxy Music. Curtis Mayfield is another that comes to mind -- before his death came the awesome New World Order -- as are Pink Floyd, Paul Simon, Bob Dylan and the Band/Robbie Robertson. Marvin Gaye is dead, Stevie Wonder and David Bowie are missing in action, the Temptations are not very tempting anymore. Dusty Springfield did not do much in the 90's, and I do not like Kate Bush's latest nor David Byrne's -- just to pull some rabbits out of hat that is my CD shelf. Hum, I guess I am waiting for a new 801 album. NP The Temptations, The Way You Do Things You Do Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:26:58 -0800 (PST) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? I couldn't agree more! - --- Heather James wrote: > Hey, enough of this shoe shilliness - > what happened to the ongoing debate about how Paul > is the worlds finest > drummer and that Bryan can't make a good album with > out him and Andy! *** Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:17:18 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? In a message dated 11/12/01 16:20:23 GMT Standard Time, Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com writes: > > You're not wrong Heather, but with a little help from a search engine > you'll > find they are available in the US from www.expatshopping.com!! > bloody hell....Startrite definatly got there moneys worth there!!! Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:36:04 -0600 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? > In Bryan Ferry's case, this list often reads remarks such as; his > current work is inferior - > he is unable to produce the refreshing witticisms of the first two > albums; > anything since Avalon is crap; he's been stuck in this banal dark mode > since Boys And Girls, and I'm sick of it, and he needs to change, etc. > There is no use in decrying any period of Bryan Ferry's work since any > period is defensible in real terms. Thanks, KB for so eloquently expressing exactly my feelings. The last sentence above is what "the subliminal footer" should say. Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:18:21 -0500 From: David Subject: RE: [AVALON] Start rite? Sorry, I just have one question re: expatshopping before we conclude the shoe business- 38p per bag is certainly a steal, but just how popular *are* Skip's Prawn Cocktail Flavoured Crisps? At 04:12 PM 12/11/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Besides, I don't think you can get Startrite shoes in the US easily ... > >You're not wrong Heather, but with a little help from a search engine you'll >find they are available in the US from www.expatshopping.com!! > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:59:55 EST From: Helchat@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Moon River".. by Bryan Ferry? In a message dated 12/10/01 9:54:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, greggie@bellsouth.net writes: << Seeing as Bryan Ferry has done so may covers- I wonder if at anytime he ever considered "Moon River?" I could imagine he could perform some serious magic with it.. >> Greggie, I'm with you, it's a fabulous song, and Bryan could do a haunting rendition of it! Helene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:07:33 -0800 From: neeek@wgn.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Moon River".. by Bryan Ferry? Since we're on a lunar subject, why shouldn't he also cover "Blue Moon," and, then, if he has nothing better to do and feels frisky almost to the borders of "lunacy," he could launch into "Blue Moon of Kentucky!" At 12:59 PM 12/11/01 , you wrote: >In a message dated 12/10/01 9:54:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, >greggie@bellsouth.net writes: > ><< Seeing as Bryan Ferry has done so may covers- I wonder if at anytime he >ever > considered "Moon River?" I could imagine he could perform some serious magic > with it.. >> > > >Greggie, I'm with you, it's a fabulous song, and Bryan could do a haunting >rendition of it! > >Helene > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:50:43 -0800 From: "Webwolf" Subject: [AVALON] NDRW Branch... Announcing my branch of the NDRW (Dortmund) Radio Broadcast 2001 (1 disc)... Anyone interested, please e-mail me OFFLIST at webwolf@nwi.net with the subject Dortmund, no later than Dec 25. Thanks for the smoothness of past trees and Happy Holidays! Hope you all get that Siren Flask or lighter that you want for Christmas or Hanukkah... Thanks, Brian ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:13:54 -0800 From: neeek@wgn.net Subject: [AVALON] 2 New Shows New to me, anyway! Now available for trade, and to be treed in the near future: Roxy Music at Dortmund, West Germany on 9/7 (or 9 -- not sure exactly...) 1982 and Roxy Music at Baltimore Civic Center on May 23, 1983. Please see the coverart which is up now, as well as the coverart for the Roxy Music at Los Angeles' Universal Amphitheatre on May 2nd (or 3rd), 1983 at my little Roxy Music trading page at http://member.newsguy.com/~sushidog/roxy.htm ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:12:04 -0800 From: "PeteK" Subject: [AVALON] Martini Bachelor Pad I read an article today in LA's Daily news. It was originally written for the Boston Globe by Sam Allis titled "Rat Pack still unmatched in cool". The article centered on the differences between the two Oceans 11 films and some supposed rat pack revival that has been going on for the last few years. They qoute a 'musicologist' (whatever that is) named James Isaac through out the article. Mr Isaac claimed that with this revival came a brand of music called "martini bachelor pad that Bryan Ferry had been playing for years". I don't think I've ever had an entire martini. I've had a sip and didn't fancy it at all. Give me a Newcastle or a Samuel Smith's anyday. Well I must not be the typical Bryan Ferry fan. Oh Yeah and I'm married too, so much for the bachelor pad angle. NP Icehouse's "No Promises" "making some sense where there's no sense at all" ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 07:01:34 +0100 From: "Kari Solberg" Subject: [AVALON] (no subject) Richard wrote: ...I hear two Ian Hunter shows with an orchestra are planned for Oslo, Norway in January 2002... There is no tickets available at billettservice.no yet. I don't know how strange this consept is.. ks ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 02:00:38 EST From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Martini Bachelor Pad In a message dated 12/11/01 11:17:42 PM, petekstranded@worldnet.att.net writes: << I don't think I've ever had an entire martini. I've had a sip and didn't fancy it at all. Give me a Newcastle or a Samuel Smith's anyday. Well I must not be the typical Bryan Ferry fan. Oh Yeah and I'm married too, so much for the bachelor pad angle. >> You must come to Cicago, my freind, for the Chicago Roxy Music Martini Club! We'll show you .... Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 03:36:58 -0500 From: "Gregory A. Koetting" Subject: [AVALON] I Love Helene...and if you have a pulse, you do, too! Without ANY doubt, Helene, you are by FAR my most adored "Avalonian.." Somehow you always seem to speak up for me and my silly ideas and comments- You have for **years** have been on this list and I've hardly thanked you enough for the support you have given to me and my silly words and comments. I appreciate you and ALWAYS look forward to hearing from you... Love, Greggie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Helchat@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:00 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Moon River".. by Bryan Ferry? In a message dated 12/10/01 9:54:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, greggie@bellsouth.net writes: << Seeing as Bryan Ferry has done so may covers- I wonder if at anytime he ever considered "Moon River?" I could imagine he could perform some serious magic with it.. >> Greggie, I'm with you, it's a fabulous song, and Bryan could do a haunting rendition of it! Helene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #568 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest