From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #565 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, December 9 2001 Volume 06 : Number 565 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Start rite? [bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick)] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? ["Sebastian Fasthuber" ] Re: [AVALON] Lester Bangs on Bryan [ASchulberg@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Uncut and other outrages [Michael Hill ] Re: [AVALON] Uncut and other outrages ["M. Taylor" ] Re: [AVALON] Lester Bangs on Bryan ["R. Jackson" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music Cited in "Rolling Stone" [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Lester Bangs on Bryan [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Lester Bangs on Bryan [David Firmin ] [AVALON] RE: "Rolling Stone" ["Bill" ] Re: [AVALON] RE: "Rolling Stone" [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] RE: "Rolling Stone" [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Bryan Ferry - Hey Little Girl ["nigeljarratt" ] [AVALON] John Lennon ["Keith Shockley" ] Re: [AVALON] Start rite? ["Judy Kaufman" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 12:44 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) Subject: [AVALON] Start rite? Ok, what am I offered for a full page, colour advert for Start Rite children's shoes from the Sainsbury's House magazine December 1998? Oh, sorry, a certain well known crooner is the model... Larf! BM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:19:41 +0100 From: "Sebastian Fasthuber" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? you can see this one here.... http://www.avalongroup.freeuk.com/pictures/ferryshoe.html sebastian From: Bill MacCormick > Ok, what am I offered for a full page, colour advert for Start Rite > children's shoes from the Sainsbury's House magazine December 1998? > > Oh, sorry, a certain well known crooner is the model... Larf! > > BM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 08:25:02 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? Bill Mac' inquires: "..what am I offered for a full page, colour advert for Start Rite children's shoes from the Sainsbury's House magazine December 1998?" Bill: I have glossy adverts from vintage issues of National Geographic, Smithsonian Magazine, and Life Mag. that I am willing to trade. Please mail me off-list for my selection. ;-) You are so cheeky! Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:08:51 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lester Bangs on Bryan In a message dated 12/08/2001 12:06:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, jackson.robert.r@worldnet.att.net writes: > Lester Bangs where he has some really terrible > I thought Philip Seymour Hoffman was brilliant as Bangs in "Almost Famous" (as he is in everything I've seen him in). Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:54:29 +0000 From: Michael Hill Subject: RE: [AVALON] Uncut and other outrages Hi, sorry to sound a bit out of touch, but could someone please explain to me what was said in Uncut magazine? I fear it may be something that will get the old Roxy blood boiling! Thankyou ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:53:22 -0600 From: "Jas" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music Cited in "Rolling Stone" Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:56:11 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music Cited in "Rolling Stone" The 2001 Yearbook edition of "Rolling Stone" magazine came in today. In the section for July there's about a quarter page with the heading: Roxy Music: Sex, Cummerbunds, Rock & Roll. There's a very nice picture of Bryan singing with the caption: Bryan Ferry: For your pleasure. Arnie It took the year-end issue for Rolling Stone to FINALLY recognize Roxy actually toured this year. If you knew nothing of them and exclusively read Rolling Stone for your concert updates, you would never had known. I took them to task for that. " ...sending crowds into glitter-gasmic convulsions...". Oh, so THAT what I was feeling everytime Bryan changed outfits. "It was never an issue. We didn't even ask him." Yeah, right. Jas ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 17:04:33 +0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Uncut and other outrages >What's your favorite most ignorant reaction to the band we're all here to >discuss? I usually get blank stares when I mention Roxy. I presented my final project for Javascript class on Wednesday which was a Roxy quiz. The teacher and the class had no idea who they are and certainly couldn't answer any of the questions (which were taken from Daniel's Q&A). I'm mocked for my other interests - not that it's surprising with some of them. Keanu, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Duran, being a sci fi/horror geek, occasionally for liking The Divine Comedy..... M NP: "Lose That Girl (Trouser Enthusiast mix)" - Saint Etienne _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 11:06:25 -0800 (PST) From: Adrew Howard Subject: [AVALON] Uncut article Roxy is in fact one of the few major names to escape the wrath of The (anonymous) Reaper up until now. From memory Bowie, Dylan, Neil Young, The Stones and many, many more have come in for the same treatment. I was interested to read this piece and indeed laughed about the harsh but true observation that Flesh & Blood was an essential piece in every Yorkshire restaurant in the early 80s. I also tended to agree somewhat about the naff Roxy element but have always found Ferrys dancing, for example, charming rather than off-putting. Other than that the Uncut article should definitely be taken with a pinch of salt. If the album sleeves are offensive to the writer in this day and age then he/ she is obviously living a pretty sheltered existence. He/ she ignores the fact that these covers were made in the pop art tradition that Ferry has aspired to throughout his career. Flesh & Blood is criticised for its safeness and yet the writer is still unhappy at the bands earlier experimentation such as Bryans vocal mannerisms. Roxy are described as looking like a Ziggy Stardust tribute band at the same time as Bowie himself was lauding the band as the brightest hopes in British rock. The author claims that Bryan, at 25, was old before he even dreamt up Roxy and yet ignores the fact that it was his mature approach (both to the music and the industry) that partly explained why Roxy became such an overnight phenomenon. It may be true that Bryans fantasies were banal but the way in which he expressed them both lyrically and vocally made them completely unique. Roxy, it is claimed, was Enos most uninteresting phase and yet there is no acknowledgement that this was because Ferry was by far the major creative force. The fact that even Andys mullet fails to escape the wrath is an indication of the depths of absurdity to which this article descends. In the end the fact that The Reaper does not have to sign this piece gives it the very facelessness that is so often the scourge of the computer age. Hopefully the majority of the readership will be intelligent enough to dismiss it. Drew. ______________________________________________________________________________ Send a friend your Buddy Card and stay in contact always with Excite Messenger http://messenger.excite.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 11:11:51 -0800 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lester Bangs on Bryan At 09:08 AM 12/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: >I thought Philip Seymour Hoffman was brilliant as Bangs in "Almost Famous" >(as he is in everything I've seen him in). > >Arnie Yeah, I thought he was great, too. One of the highlights of the film. - -Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 14:00:02 -0600 From: "Rick Schwartz" Subject: [AVALON] Ssheet Music Sources Thanks to Dave for the site http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/backstage/3020/ I have been looking for sheet music and have only been able to find Taxi complete CD and The Best of Roxy Music, same songs as the 18 cut CD. Does anyone know where else to obtain sheet music for Roxy & BF? I found a sight in the UK that had a few songs but they would not sell to me, some kind of copyright problem selling to the US. I got the greatest hits from http://www.musicroom.com. Taxi i obtained from a French site that seems to now be out of business. Thanks in advance for anyone with any info, Rick ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 15:45:51 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music Cited in "Rolling Stone" In a message dated 12/08/2001 11:55:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, jas2347@attbi.com writes: > It took the year-end issue for Rolling Stone to FINALLY recognize Roxy > actually toured this year. If you knew nothing of them and exclusively read > Rolling Stone for your concert updates, you would never had known. I took > them to task for that. > > There was a teeny tiny item of about a dozen words that noted they had reunited and would be touring but nothing to speak of. Truly a surprise since I had understood that one of their contributing editors, Rob Sheffield, is a HUGE fan. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 12:56:54 -0800 (PST) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lester Bangs on Bryan Philip Seymour Hoffman attended the Roxy show at the Greek in LA. It took me awhile to figure out who he was. Then I remembered him from Boogie Nights. Alfred Molina was also great in that flick, as the drug dealer who loved Sister Christian by Night Ranger... Motorin' - --- "R. Jackson" wrote: > At 09:08 AM 12/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > >I thought Philip Seymour Hoffman was brilliant as > Bangs in "Almost Famous" > >(as he is in everything I've seen him in). > > > >Arnie > > Yeah, I thought he was great, too. One of the > highlights of the film. > > -Rob *** Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 13:06:44 -0800 (PST) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lester Bangs on Bryan Sorry, that was actually John C. Reilly I saw at the Greek. I got their names mixed up. *** Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 15:10:50 -0600 From: "Bill" Subject: [AVALON] RE: "Rolling Stone" I am sorry for being negative but Rolling Stone long ago became a pathetic rag of a publication....... In my opinion....and I was a subscriber for many years Ferry & Roxy Music have had enormous and immeasurable impact on music yet Rolling Stone has rarely even bothered to mention this vital & highly influential band in its myriad of pages. The clincher on Rolling Stone, for me personally, was what happened after having dedicated an ENTIRE issue to Kurt Kobain and Nirvana after Kurt killed himself. A band that was very short lived (no pun intended). AFTER this dedication, Rolling Stone managed to set aside a paltry ONE FIFTH of a page (approximately) in memoriam for a genuine music icon after succumbing to cancer: the great Frank Zappa. Whether or not one likes Zappa and his music his impact on Rock n Roll is undeniable and like Ferry/Roxy is also immeasurable. Whether it be his musical impact, or his brilliant testimony before the pinheads in the U.S. congress when Al Gore's wife Tipper lead the crusade to censor rock music in the early 1980's, Zappa left an indelible mark on music and Rolling Stone tried to marginalize him. Again I apologize for the rant... Sincerely, BILL - -----Original Message----- In a message dated 12/08/2001 11:55:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, jas2347@attbi.com writes: > It took the year-end issue for Rolling Stone to FINALLY recognize Roxy > actually toured this year. If you knew nothing of them and exclusively read > Rolling Stone for your concert updates, you would never had known. I took > them to task for that. > > There was a teeny tiny item of about a dozen words that noted they had reunited and would be touring but nothing to speak of. Truly a surprise since I had understood that one of their contributing editors, Rob Sheffield, is a HUGE fan. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:07:26 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: "Rolling Stone" In a message dated 12/08/2001 4:12:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, wilmar77@bellsouth.net writes: > I am sorry for being negative but Rolling Stone long ago became a > pathetic rag of a publication....... In my opinion....and I was a > subscriber for many years > > I know. I've been a subscriber for more years than I care to admit. Most issues I just skim, looking for anything that relates to bands I care about. And I do like their movie reviewer, Peter Travers. Unfortunately, I've occasionally relied on their ratings to buy something new and usually been disappointed. And their failure to even try to be even-handed in covering political matters is a real sore point for me. The issue prior to this one had an article about how the press may have cost Al Gore the election. How timely!!! Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:57:37 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: "Rolling Stone" At 15.10 -0600 1-12-08, Bill wrote: >I am sorry for being negative but Rolling Stone long ago became a >pathetic rag of a publication....... In my opinion....and I was a >subscriber for many years At least the interviewed Studs Terkel. NP The Main Thing, Out of the Blue. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 00:02:39 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music titbits I tried to find out the date for Roxy's 1979 tour start in Stockholm on the net, but no luck. I found a lot of other information: David Thyrin is writing a Ph.D. thesis called "Strictly No Sale. En undersvkning av populdrmusikindustrin och utvecklingen mot Internet med fokus pe skivbolaget EG Records och rockgrupperna King Crimson och Roxy Music." He's writing on how the record industry has responded to the Internet with an empasis on EG Records and King Crimson och Roxy Music Dream Theater preformed 02/05/93 in Oklahoma City, OK at Roxy Music Hall. http://www.premiumpublishing.com/eng/lista/inter.html sell pictures here's an on-topic listing ROXY MUSIC At Andy McKay4s house1974 Torbjvrn Calvero ROXY MUSIC Live at Konserthuset in Stockholm 1975 Torbjvrn Calvero ROXY MUSIC At Phil Manzanera4s house 1981 ROXY MUSIC Live at Isstadion in Stockholm 1977 http://www.webspawner.com/users/ofurniture/ lists ROXY MUSIC - Loc. unk. 1979 90m UTOPIA - 1975 Disco Jets Unreleased LP 45m A+ What is this? http://home.no.net/mott/tapes4.html lists ROXY MUSIC - 'Pioneers In Music' - int/music, Nov 1986, 15m, FM (DIR), Q10+ [079] What is this? home.att.net/~livingeye/roxy.html lists a video ANDY MACKAY: "Wild Weekend" 1973 live in Stockholm, Sweden What is this? A dog, a Welsh Corgi Pembroke Siggen's Roxy Music was named best puppy at an exibition in Stockholm April 2001 http://wwww.blackpinesbonsai.com/trade_music_list.html lists ROXY MUSIC "interpretation" the live album recorded in oct 1975 england tour What is this? And a little something for us who like to discover hidden gems: Vivabeat The Good Life (1979-1986) Permanent Press | 2001 It was inevitable -- the music from the 50's has seen its revival, as has the 60's and, yes, even the 70's. Now, it's the 80's turn -- how many commercials have you seen recently using "Tainted Love" or "Da Da Da" to hawk something or other? Permanent Press Recordings makes a positive contribution to the 80's revival with this compilation from Vivabeat, an unjustly overlooked California synthpop band from the early part of the decade. Vivabeat was, at the time, the only American band on Charisma Records, signed largely at the urging of Peter Gabriel who had heard the band's early four song demo tape and was instantly hooked. Their sound was a conglomeration of Roxy Music and Ultravox, with a dash of Devo thrown in for good measure. Lead singer Terrance Robay combined the suave swagger of Bryan Ferry with the barely controlled lunacy of "Psycho Killer"-era David Byrne. But most importantly, Vivabeat didn't seem to take themselves too seriously. Witness, for example, the deadpan "my my, uh oh/the house is burning but there's no one home" lyrics from Vivabeat's first dance club hit, "The House is Burning (But There's No One Home)". It may be utterly absurd, but that matters little when you're shaking your ass on the dance floor. The Good Life collects the best from Vivabeat's two albums with various and sundry singles. "Working for William" is an odd melding of reggae and synthpop topped off with Robay's Gary Numan-esque vocals that somehow works. The funky, hypnotic "Man From China"'s lead whistle allegedly inspired Gabriel to write "Games Without Frontiers." On "Blue Guitars," Marina del Rey's detached vocals invoke Bananarama fronting Depeche Mode. Definitely one of the more esoteric releases so far this year; The Good Life is an exhilarating blast of synthpop for 80's people. -- Rick Schadelbauer http://wwww.twomp.com/amplifier/_023/023_cd_reviews.htm+ In Monkeybone with Brendan Frasier and Bridget Fonda she mimes, does a cover?, of Love is the Drug. NP Out of the Blue, Out of the Blue boot. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:07:20 -0000 From: "nigeljarratt" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry - Hey Little Girl I have recently downloaded this song. It sounds as though BF is singing the backing vocals but not the main parts of the song. Does anyone where this track originates from or who the main vocalist is please? It sounds a bit like Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) but I am not sure. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 01:09:10 +0100 From: "Sebastian Fasthuber" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry - Hey Little Girl hm, ian anderson? "my little girl" is a song by roxy music, appears on "manifesto". "hey little girl" was a 1982 hit by icehouse (and recently turned up in a pretty enjoyable house rework). but ian anderson? regards, sebastian - ----- Original Message ----- From: nigeljarratt To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 10:07 PM Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry - Hey Little Girl > I have recently downloaded this song. It sounds as though BF is singing the > backing vocals but not the main parts of the song. Does anyone where this > track originates from or who the main vocalist is please? It sounds a bit > like Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) but I am not sure. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 22:44:56 -0600 From: Alex Popovic Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry - Hey Little Girl on 12/8/01 6:09 PM, Sebastian Fasthuber at a9504067@unet.univie.ac.at wrote: Sebastian - You really know your music. Icehouse was an awesome Aussie band that clearly had BF as an influence. Alex > hm, ian anderson? > "my little girl" is a song by roxy music, appears on "manifesto". > "hey little girl" was a 1982 hit by icehouse (and recently turned up in a > pretty enjoyable house rework). > > but ian anderson? > > regards, > sebastian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: nigeljarratt > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 10:07 PM > Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry - Hey Little Girl > > >> I have recently downloaded this song. It sounds as though BF is singing > the >> backing vocals but not the main parts of the song. Does anyone where this >> track originates from or who the main vocalist is please? It sounds a bit >> like Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull) but I am not sure. >> >> >> > ___________________________________________________________________________ >> The subliminable footer says: >> To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >> unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 00:28:29 -0800 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lester Bangs on Bryan - ----- Original Message ----- From: R. Jackson To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lester Bangs on Bryan David, As good as Boogie Nights was with all the great ensemble acting, I thought alfred Molina stole the film with his over the top performance. Keith NP: Remember / John Lennon > At 09:08 AM 12/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > >I thought Philip Seymour Hoffman was brilliant as Bangs in "Almost Famous" > >(as he is in everything I've seen him in). > > > >Arnie > > Yeah, I thought he was great, too. One of the highlights of the film. > > -Rob > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 00:33:20 -0800 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: [AVALON] John Lennon Of course the 8th marked 21 years since John' s death. If you haven't thought of him today, then do so, if only for a minute. Keith NP: GOD / John Lennon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 23:49:23 -0600 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Start rite? From: Bill MacCormick > Ok, what am I offered for a full page, colour advert for Start Rite > children's shoes from the Sainsbury's House magazine December 1998? If you need a babysitter for the model, I'll volunteer. I'll even throw in a couple of Opium ads from the late '70's ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #565 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest