From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #561 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, December 6 2001 Volume 06 : Number 561 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Virus Alert for PC [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Virus Alert ["tmoq" ] [AVALON] Make Me A Deal [ASchulberg@aol.com] [AVALON] Comments Please [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] W32/Goner@MM [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] VIRUS 'tax [Heather James ] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Strictly Confidential" ["Christian H. Soetemann" ] [AVALON] Timepiece [David ] RE: [AVALON] SOTW: "Strictly Confidential" ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] Re: [AVALON] Uncut- oh dear. [Susan Stekel ] Re: [AVALON] Uncut- oh no!!! ["Duncan Watkins" ] Re: [AVALON] Comments Please ["Simon Allin" ] [AVALON] Tree from New York ["Kari Solberg" ] Re: [AVALON] Comments Please [neeek@wgn.net] [AVALON] Final thought on George Harrison ["Keith Shockley" Subject: [AVALON] Virus Alert for PC This ios for PC only, no Macs. W32/Goner.A Virus Discovered ================================================================ A new Visual Basic mass mailer virus has been discovered and is spreading quickly. Malicious emails sent by the virus claim to carry a screen saver attachment. Running the attachment executes the virus code. The subject and body of the emails are as follows: - ----------------- Subject : Hi Body : How are you ? When I saw this screen saver, I immediately thought about you I am in a harry, I promise you will love it! - ----------------- The attachment is named Gone.scr and is 38912 bytes long. The virus harvests target emails from the Outlook address book and also attempts to send itself to victims via ICQ. Further, the worm looks for a number of processes in memory and terminates them if found. All files in the directory containing the executable used by a found process are also deleted. The processes of interest include a number of anti-virus and security applications. The virus may also deposit mIRC scripts that enable the victim computer to be controlled via IRC and used in DDoS attacks. Blocking all *.scr email attachments can provide protection >from Goner. Please see the following AV sites for more information. A few news articles are here: Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 07:12:37 -0500 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Virus Alert - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Shockley" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Virus Alert > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:26 AM > Subject: [AVALON] Virus Alert > > Arnie, > > The virus kept getting past my MacAfee so I ended up downloading the latest > from norton. So far...so good.... > Arnie doesn`t use Outlook/Express so that new virus going around must send itself off under someone else`s name. I`m grasping here....but it`s still a good idea to confirm any attachments you receive from here on out. Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:35:37 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Make Me A Deal Fellow AVALONians- I am looking for someone with a color printer who would be willing to work out a deal with me. Since I only have a black and white printer, I am missing out on the full joy of many of the wonderful CD covers that have been created for the various boots we have circulated. If some kind soul would provide me with color copies of the artwork, I would gladly make some copies of the disks for them. I am lacking color art for: Twin Disc from Twin Cities A Pleasant Peninsula Out of the Sky Came the Sun Dortmund and Tokyo 2001 (possibly others but that's what's at hand at the moment) Please reply off-list. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 09:01:59 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: [AVALON] Comments Please A few days ago I posted on the 'past three songs of the week'. An excerpt from my post, "And finally, the current SOTW "Chance Meeting" is, yet, another fine example of Mr. Ferry's poignant and accurate work. Words, melodies, compositions, I do wonder how much personal toll Bryan Ferry has dearly paid while bringing forth such a tremendous body of work..." prompted this off-list response by an Avalon List reader: "And yet, it doesn't look to me as if BF has suffered greatly from his self-exploitation (the personal toll) as a conduit for the expression of perfectly chiseled teen angst in a grownup's world." I was initially stunned by this response as it seemed to be quite bitter. Then, I tried to make sense of BF "as a conduit for the expression of perfectly chiseled teen angst in a grownup's world". Perhaps I've missed something but I have never viewed Bryan Ferry as a symbol of/for teen 'anything'. I've always thought his music was mature by nature, and I've always viewed BF as an adult living in a "grownup's world". I simply am stumped by this off-list response. I'd appreciate comments, on-list, from other Avalonians about this matter. Please, enlighten me! Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 09:55:25 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] W32/Goner@MM Reports of menacing proportions abound Avalon List: "The virus kept getting past my MacAfee...." Attention should be given to the below statement regarding W32/Goner@MM: "Goner has a DESTRUCTIVE PAYLOAD. When the attachment is opened, it will look for a variety of anti-virus, firewall and other security programs and attempt to delete them," (this may explain why the virus goes undetected by anti-virus programs that are not up-to-date) "along with ALL FILES in the same directory. This worm will also place a trojan, REMOTE32.INI, on the system, which contains instructions to attempt Denial-of-Service attacks on other IRC users." MacAfee users: Version 4.0.70 and above with DAT file 4174 will detect and remove this worm! As Heather stated - keep your anti-virus program current with frequent updates! An ounce of prevention... W32/Goner@MM, also known as Pentagone, Goner or Gone, spreads via Microsoft Outlook email and ICQ instantmessaging programs. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 10:11:07 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] VIRUS 'tax The basic fact is, the newer viruses and worms spread because gullible people open strange attachments that come in their email. PEOPLE - STOP OPENING ATTACHMENTS and YOU WON'T GET BIT!! If I don't KNOW you are sending me something and I get an email from you with an attachment - I'm not gonna open it. I'm also not gonna open strange screen savers, "neat programs", WORD documents or other possible worm and virus devices. For research, - dig up a copy of Heinlein's "The Puppet Masters" - like the book sez, its spread by your friends ... BE paranoid - some wackos REALLY ARE out to get you! -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/roxy-boots.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-van.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< KB Porter wrote: > Reports of menacing proportions abound Avalon List: "The virus kept > getting past my MacAfee...." > > Attention should be given to the below statement regarding W32/Goner@MM: > "Goner has a DESTRUCTIVE PAYLOAD. When the attachment is > opened, it will look for a variety of anti-virus, firewall > and other security programs and attempt to delete them," (this may > explain why the virus goes undetected by anti-virus programs that are > not up-to-date) > "along with ALL FILES in the same directory. This worm > will also place a trojan, REMOTE32.INI, on the system, which > contains instructions to attempt Denial-of-Service attacks > on other IRC users." > > MacAfee users: Version 4.0.70 and above with DAT file 4174 will detect > and > remove this worm! As Heather stated - keep your anti-virus program > current with frequent updates! An ounce of prevention... > > W32/Goner@MM, also known as Pentagone, Goner or Gone, spreads via > Microsoft Outlook > email and ICQ instantmessaging programs. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > - -- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 15:04:46 +0000 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Strictly Confidential" After having missed out on some great tracks, "Bete Noire" being one of my all-time Ferry favourites, I can't miss out on "Strictly Confidential". In my opinion it's one of the best Roxy songs ever, with its cryptic intro and the musical suspense that ushers into intense vocal delivery and mind-tearing Manzanera soloing, all fitting in with one of Ferry's darkest lyrical moments. In his book on Roxy, J. Rogan drew parallels between "Sunset" and SC, but I think they occur rather on the surface. An aspect of finality, of death is there, yes, but "Sunset" is rather reflective and pondering, while SC is desperate, full of self-doubt, intrapsychic conflict (vividly captured by the vocal dialogue). Communication is a "gift", but in the end, some "things are better left unsaid", thus avoiding truth, "the seed we tried to sow". No chance for complete honesty, opening up to even the closest acquaintances. No wiping the slate clean, dissolving into dust taking several secrets to the worms. The lyric does hardly capture the secrets announced in the second line, but rather delivers a close-up of the mis-communication that hinders the secrets from being revealed.It might be the story of a failure: planning to unveil the unpleasant things, but in the end not being able to utter that which is not "for your pleasure". The end is anticipated in the very first line: it's death. And well, if you allow further interpretation, any evidence of a next world as a refuge is negated - it seems there's no way out ("There is no light here - Is there no key?"). I like Ferry's Fender Rhodes throughout this track. They are quite dominant throughout the FYP album, giving it a coherent sound in spite of the co-existence of very lively and very dark songs. SC is, of course, one of the darkest things, with "Dream Home" & "The Bogus Man". On this LP, to me, Roxy delivered everything that they promised. For the record: I haven't heard any live versions as yet. Haven't seen any videos either... "Now, forget all of this" (R. Fripp) - Christian - ---------- >Von: Colleen Matan >An: avalon@smoe.org >Betreff: [AVALON] SOTW: "Strictly Confidential" >Datum: Son, 2. Dez 2001 16:20 Uhr > >The song of the what/whenever is "Strictly Confidential" from _For Your >Pleasure_. > >As before the discussion is open to anything related to the song, and >these are only suggestions: > > love it? hate it? > lyrics/music > it changed my life > live vs. studio version(s) (if applicable) > the video (if any) > that reminds me... > > >Strictly Confidential (Ferry) > >Before I die I'll write this letter >Here are the secrets you must know >Until the cloak of evening shadow >Changes to mantle of the dawn >Will it be sunny then I wonder? >Rolling and turning >How can I sleep? >Hold on till morning >What if I fall? >Over the hills and down the valleys >Soaring aloft and far below >Lying on stony ground the fragments >Truth is the seed we tried to sow >Marking the time spent on our journey >There isn't much we have to show >Counting the cost in money only >Strikes me as funny don4t you know? >Tongue tied the thread of conversation >Weighing the words one tries to use >Nevertheless communication >This is the gift you must not lose >Hauling me always are the voices >Tell us are you ready now? >Sometimes I wonder if they're real >We're ready to receive you now >Or is it my own imagination? >Have you any more to say? >Guilt is a wound that's hard to heal >It's a cross you have to bear >Could it be evil thoughts become me >Tell us what you're thinking now >Some things are better left unsaid >Magical moment >The spell it is breaking >There is no light here >Is there no key? > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 10:41:09 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] VIRUS'R US Heather declares: "The basic fact is, the newer viruses and worms spread because gullible people open strange attachments that come in their email." She's 100% correct, folks!!! (but Heather, I've been working so hard over the years to minimize my own paranoia - if I turn back now, they'll probably cart me off to the loony bin for life. Please say it ain't so) ;=( :) KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 11:06:53 -0500 From: David Subject: [AVALON] Timepiece Somebody's gonna want this... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1673702424 Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:05:36 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] SOTW: "Strictly Confidential" >the video (if any) Once again .... but I think it should look as if it had been directed by Pabst. Trez, I feel the jaunty black and white stylism of Pabst would be too lightweight for a song as dark as SC. BF's already visited this type of genre albeit in technicolour with his Mamouna shoot featuring a glittery Garboesque coterie, and his Slave To Love S&M bobs. I agree the lyrics could be summed up as a " Pandora's Box" of emotions. Maybe that's where your connection was sparked? As an aside, Pabst has be associated with a number of films that would make great Roxy/Ferry song titles: One Does Not Play With Love; Shanghai Drama; Crisis/Desire; Girls in Distress; Crazy affairs. Personally, all good music creates images (and sometimes full length feature films!) for me. The Animals Please Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood always made me visualise Richard III's defeat at the battle of Bosworth (maybe because I was doing it for History homework when I first heard it on Radio Luxemburg) and Strictly Confidential has always been the soundtrack to a Spanish Inquisition interrogation, created by David Lynch filming his first period piece. Who could we cast as the lead? John Malcovich maybe? Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:24:25 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: [AVALON] Uncut- oh dear. Any UK Avalonians bought the Music/Film mag Uncut?, Rolling Stones Special edition. There is a full page article on Roxy which is titled "Sacred Cows Reputations reassessed". I'm looking forward to some of your views on this one! Terry "O" NP: Gary Numan/ME ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:31:55 -0600 From: Susan Stekel Subject: Re: [AVALON] Uncut- oh dear. At 07:24 PM 12/5/01 -0000, you wrote: >Any UK Avalonians bought the Music/Film mag Uncut?, Rolling Stones Special >edition. There is a full page article on Roxy which is titled "Sacred Cows >Reputations reassessed". I'm looking forward to some of your views on this >one! Can anyone post this please? Or at least elaborate? You've caught my attention ... Susan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 21:44:23 +0000 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Uncut- oh no!!! Terry, Searching the internet for 'uncut' throws up some interesting sites!! Regards, Duncan. >From: "terrypaulrigz8c" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: >Subject: [AVALON] Uncut- oh dear. >Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:24:25 -0000 > >Any UK Avalonians bought the Music/Film mag Uncut?, Rolling Stones Special >edition. There is a full page article on Roxy which is titled "Sacred Cows >Reputations reassessed". I'm looking forward to some of your views on this >one! > >Terry "O" > >NP: Gary Numan/ME > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 21:25:50 -0000 From: "Simon Allin" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Comments Please Hmmmmm Ferry's lyrics are expressions of existential angst; teens often experience a lot of existential angst, and most of Roxy's audience were teenagers. Ferry's ideas, however, relate mainly to the adult world and/or are expressed in an intelligent, mature way...the view of an adult disillusioned with the 'grown-up' world. So, in a sense they are teen angst and in a sense they're not. Does that make sense? - ----- Original Message ----- From: KB Porter To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:01 PM Subject: [AVALON] Comments Please > A few days ago I posted on the 'past three songs of the week'. > > An excerpt from my post, "And finally, the current SOTW "Chance Meeting" > is, yet, another fine example of Mr. Ferry's poignant and accurate > work. Words, melodies, compositions, I do wonder how much personal toll > Bryan Ferry has dearly paid while bringing forth such a tremendous body > of work..." prompted this off-list response by an Avalon List reader: > "And yet, it doesn't look to me as if BF has suffered greatly from his > self-exploitation (the personal toll) as a conduit for the expression of > perfectly chiseled teen angst in a grownup's world." > > I was initially stunned by this response as it seemed to be quite > bitter. Then, I tried to make sense of BF "as a conduit for the > expression of perfectly chiseled teen angst in a grownup's world". > Perhaps I've missed something but I have never viewed Bryan Ferry as a > symbol of/for teen 'anything'. I've always thought his music was mature > by nature, and I've always viewed BF as an adult living in a "grownup's > world". > > I simply am stumped by this off-list response. I'd appreciate comments, > on-list, from other Avalonians about this matter. Please, enlighten me! > > Best wishes. KBP > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:31:22 +0100 From: "Kari Solberg" Subject: [AVALON] Tree from New York I must have missed out on who made the cd-tree from New York...for Europe! I would love to have it, but maybe I am too late? Kari ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 14:32:27 -0800 From: neeek@wgn.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] Comments Please The exact email I sent to KB was: "Hello. Interesting analysis. And yet, it doesn't look to me as if BF has suffered greatly from his self-exploitation (the personal toll) as a conduit for the expression of perfectly chiseled teen angst in a grownup's world. He appears to have drawn a magnificent strength from that brilliantly-expressed sort of banal outpouring; and, with the years, hasn't lost a note to boot! Just my opinion." And what I meant, in my typical garbled way was: Roxy Music became a part of my life in 1973 or so. I have spent years listening to them -- once for as long as two years EXCLUSIVELY. That means there was NEVER, EVER anything but Roxy Music on my stereo in the house and in the car. That was in 1982-84. My clients in the haircutting shop I owned must have thought I was insane, but I knew what I wanted to listen to. Unless I am greatly mistaken, many of the hard-core Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry fans on this list, and elsewhere are not teenagers. I would assume we're all in our 30s, 40s, perchance 50s. We are way too old to be obsessing on "rock" music, let alone 30 year old "oldies." And yet, we are. And, as I was so privileged to enjoy on the recent tour, so are these men (and women) who were Roxy Music in 1972 and are still Roxy Music. I noticed, during the August show I saw, which by the way might have been the best live rock and roll show I've ever seen, that almost the entire playlist came from the first 3 albums, i.e. songs that were at least 25 years old, I say rock and roll but of course RM is much, much more than that. But you know what I mean. Many, if not most, of Ferry's songs are about love -- usually broken love. The fact that it is portrayed in mature, or even at times, perverse terms, is the result of Ferry's sophistication and intellect, but I feel they are love songs, first and foremost. The quality and value of the love is not at issue. As far as I can gather, he does not sing about his machines (automobile, motorcycle, helicopter, whatever), or his job (the factory, the office, whatever). He sings about the relationships between a man and a woman, or, a boy and a girl. The fact that he is a master stylist, who switches from his 20s or 30s interpretations to the most airheaded 60s and 70s lounge staples (It's My Party, Don't Worry Baby, You Are My Sunshine, etc.), to the chilling, gut-wrenching numbers that are currently being discussed is irrelevant to me, I guess. He is singing about the confusing, painful, problematic, failed relationships that most teenagers base their entire lives on; either repeating the mistakes or learning from them. My comment was basically a response to the opinion ventured that all of this emotional outpouring must have cost the man something and I disagree. From all of the admittedly limited glimpses I've had of Bryan Ferry, he seems to be a very well adjusted, very successful man, artistically, financially, and in a family sense. I only base my opinion on the look in his eyes in the photos of him and members of his family that I've seen, and his mannerisms when I've seen him perform. I don't know if he's been married 7 times or whatever; I do believe that he clearly understands the problems selfish or immature lovers might find in their relationships. I couldn't possibly know if he is that way himself, but I would be inclined to doubt it. I think he's a very smart man who knows exactly why and what he's doing and has a gift for expressing most of his ideas in the most compelling, and interesting ways. Lastly, I don't think there are too many teens who could, or would, appreciate what Ferry offers, and has always, offered, and that's a shame. I saw an awful lot of gray hair at the Greek that night, on the stage and in the audience -- a lot of old farts who are still lively enough to rock out like the teenagers I'm sure we all still feel like we are. At 01:25 PM 12/5/01 , you wrote: >Hmmmmm > >Ferry's lyrics are expressions of existential angst; teens often experience >a lot of existential angst, and most of Roxy's audience were teenagers. >Ferry's ideas, however, relate mainly to the adult world and/or are >expressed in an intelligent, mature way...the view of an adult disillusioned >with the 'grown-up' world. > >So, in a sense they are teen angst and in a sense they're not. Does that >make sense? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: KB Porter >To: >Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:01 PM >Subject: [AVALON] Comments Please > > > > A few days ago I posted on the 'past three songs of the week'. > > > > An excerpt from my post, "And finally, the current SOTW "Chance Meeting" > > is, yet, another fine example of Mr. Ferry's poignant and accurate > > work. Words, melodies, compositions, I do wonder how much personal toll > > Bryan Ferry has dearly paid while bringing forth such a tremendous body > > of work..." prompted this off-list response by an Avalon List reader: > > "And yet, it doesn't look to me as if BF has suffered greatly from his > > self-exploitation (the personal toll) as a conduit for the expression of > > perfectly chiseled teen angst in a grownup's world." > > > > I was initially stunned by this response as it seemed to be quite > > bitter. Then, I tried to make sense of BF "as a conduit for the > > expression of perfectly chiseled teen angst in a grownup's world". > > Perhaps I've missed something but I have never viewed Bryan Ferry as a > > symbol of/for teen 'anything'. I've always thought his music was mature > > by nature, and I've always viewed BF as an adult living in a "grownup's > > world". > > > > I simply am stumped by this off-list response. I'd appreciate comments, > > on-list, from other Avalonians about this matter. Please, enlighten me! > > > > Best wishes. KBP > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:14:57 -0800 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: [AVALON] Final thought on George Harrison While watching many of the televison tributes on George after his passing, I saw a clip where Frank Sinatra was quoted as saying "Something" was one of the geatest love songs ever written. Ironically "ole blue eyes" always though it was a Lennon / McCartney song. Keith NP: Factory / Wall of Voodoo ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:48:56 -0600 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: [AVALON] OT - Thanks and ATTN: Kari Thanks to all who participated in my recent holiday housecleaning offer. Wednesday we donated 22 dollars to Toys For Tots through the local Zany Brainy store. Kari, I still have one NY available. Contact me offlist if you want it. Cheers to all, Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #561 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest