From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #521 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, November 5 2001 Volume 06 : Number 521 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track [OBrienFerry@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track ["Duncan Watkins" ] Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track [Jim Rosencutter ] Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track ["Gunther Wandtke" ] Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track [CoconutTears@aol.com] [AVALON] Re : SOTW : Sentimental Fool [Johnny Reece ] Re: [AVALON] Re : SOTW : Sentimental Fool [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Sentimental Fool" [Jim Rosencutter ] RE: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track ["Guy Lawley" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:48:09 EST From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track 8 tracks were called this because across the width of the tape were 8 separate tracks(not songs) that gave 4 stereo pairs. The tape head had 8 pick ups on it and any pair could be used at any time by selecting button 1-4.This made accessing the songs easier. I have most of the stuff that was released on 8-track which is up to Manifesto You can see some in these pictures as well as other formats of the albums:- http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/roxy%20debut.jpg http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/foryourpleasure.jpg http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/stranded.jpg http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/inyourmind.jpg http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/greatesthits.jpg http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/vivaroxymusic.jpg John O'Brien ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 21:59:14 +0000 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track Excellent info John! Only one other question what is/was a 'slipcase'? Regards, Duncan. >From: OBrienFerry@aol.com >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track >Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:48:09 EST > >8 tracks were called this because across the width of the tape were 8 >separate tracks(not songs) that gave 4 stereo pairs. The tape head had 8 >pick >ups on it and any pair could be used at any time by selecting button >1-4.This >made accessing the songs easier. I have most of the stuff that was released >on 8-track which is up to Manifesto > >You can see some in these pictures as well as other formats of the albums:- >http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/roxy%20debut.jpg > >http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/foryourpleasure.jpg > >http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/stranded.jpg > >http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/inyourmind.jpg > >http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/greatesthits.jpg > >http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/vivaroxymusic.jpg > >John O'Brien > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 15:16:56 -0800 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry - Klaatu connection (now WAY off-topic) Heh...Some Like It Hot was a Billy Wilder film, BTW. ;-) - -Rob At 06:33 PM 11/4/2001 +0000, you wrote: >Do you think I could change that to "Some like it hot" before anyone >notices? Where's Galloway when you need him? > >Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 18:32:38 -0500 From: David Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track David here, not John. It's just a cardboard case, open on one end, with the cover on front and the tracklisting on back. At 09:59 PM 11/4/01 +0000, you wrote: >Excellent info John! > >Only one other question what is/was a 'slipcase'? > >Regards, > >Duncan. cheers, David Check out my website- Shakatak, 80's Atlanta bands, Chandler, Hamlet, 80's new wave, cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 17:50:03 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track Here's a site with everything you ever wanted to know about 8-track tapes: http://www.8trackheaven.com/ Incindentally, the 8-track was invented by the Lear Jet Corporation here in my hometown of Wichita, Kansas. Duncan Watkins wrote: > Excellent info John! > > Only one other question what is/was a 'slipcase'? > > Regards, > > Duncan. > > >> From: OBrienFerry@aol.com >> Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >> To: avalon@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track >> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:48:09 EST >> >> 8 tracks were called this because across the width of the tape were 8 >> separate tracks(not songs) that gave 4 stereo pairs. The tape head had >> 8 pick >> ups on it and any pair could be used at any time by selecting button >> 1-4.This >> made accessing the songs easier. I have most of the stuff that was >> released >> on 8-track which is up to Manifesto >> >> You can see some in these pictures as well as other formats of the >> albums:- >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/roxy%20debut.jpg >> >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/foryourpleasure.jpg >> >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/stranded.jpg >> >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/inyourmind.jpg >> >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/greatesthits.jpg >> >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/vivaroxymusic.jpg >> >> John O'Brien >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> >> The subliminable footer says: >> To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >> unsubscribe avalon >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 17:55:10 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: [AVALON] 8-Track Trivia On the 8-track version of Lou Reed's Berlin, there is a 54-second instrumental interlude that is not available on any other format. http://www.8trackheaven.com/berlin.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:32:36 +1100 From: "Gunther Wandtke" Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track After reading through those tech info pages I'm slightly disappointed. I thought 8 track means that each track is playing 8 seperate sub-tracks at the same time, allowing to eg turn the guitar on and off or listen to the singer's voice seperately. That would of course open the door for coming up with our own Roxy/Ferry remixes, once we transfer the seperate tracks to our computers. But I suppose those genuine multi-track tapes are only slumbering in the archives of the recording studios? Gunter - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Rosencutter" To: Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track > Here's a site with everything you ever wanted to know about 8-track tapes: > > http://www.8trackheaven.com/ > > Incindentally, the 8-track was invented by the Lear Jet Corporation here > in my hometown of Wichita, Kansas. > > > > Duncan Watkins wrote: > > > Excellent info John! > > > > Only one other question what is/was a 'slipcase'? > > > > Regards, > > > > Duncan. > > > > > >> From: OBrienFerry@aol.com > >> Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org > >> To: avalon@smoe.org > >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track > >> Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:48:09 EST > >> > >> 8 tracks were called this because across the width of the tape were 8 > >> separate tracks(not songs) that gave 4 stereo pairs. The tape head had > >> 8 pick > >> ups on it and any pair could be used at any time by selecting button > >> 1-4.This > >> made accessing the songs easier. I have most of the stuff that was > >> released > >> on 8-track which is up to Manifesto > >> > >> You can see some in these pictures as well as other formats of the > >> albums:- > >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/roxy%20debut.jpg > >> > >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/foryourpleasure.jpg > >> > >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/stranded.jpg > >> > >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/inyourmind.jpg > >> > >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/greatesthits.jpg > >> > >> http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/vivaroxymusic.jpg > >> > >> John O'Brien > >> > >> > >> ___________________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> The subliminable footer says: > >> To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >> unsubscribe avalon > >> > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 19:47:20 -0500 From: "One of the Grays" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Don't Be Cruel/Title I checked ALL major music stores in Toronto (I know, it's in the boonies) this weekend, and was told the North American release date was Nov. 13th. Regards, John - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Don't Be Cruel/Title > I ran into similar problems myself until someone noticed that it was filed > under soundtracks. > > At 10:32 AM 11/3/2001 +0000, you wrote: > >Tried HMV yesterday-nothing on the computer!!-only two other 'records' > >with the same title from a few years ago.I insisted that the database was > >searched again with every combination/spelling of 'Good Rockin' Tonight' > >but nothing doing!Reecey is this a 'title' problem again? > >Regards, > >Duncan. > > Cheers, > David > > CPL593H! > - Bryan Ferry, 1972 > > Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, > Chandler, Hamlet, > lots of cool stuff! > http://www.America.net/~davdmock > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 19:06:25 -0600 From: "Jankiewicz, Jim" Subject: RE: [AVALON] SOTW: "Bete Noire" What!? Colleen doesn't have "Bete Noire" on CD? I find that hard to fathom . From: Colleen Matan [mailto:cjem@his.com] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Bete Noire" Well, I got my suddenly balky turntable to cooperate, and I listened to "Bete Noire" for the first time in, well, in a very long time. And since the LP was already on the turntable, I listened to the rest of it too--funny how much better it sounds than I remember it--I'd really liked _Boys and Girls_, and originally thought BN far inferior. Now it's a rediscovered gem. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 19:11:20 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track No, there's nothing really hi-fi about 8-track tapes. I'm sure anyone who's had experience with them will tell you about having to do things like slip a matchbook cover between the tape and the player door to get the heads to align correctly. Gunther Wandtke wrote: > After reading through those tech info pages I'm slightly disappointed. I > thought 8 track means that each track is playing 8 seperate sub-tracks at > the same time, allowing to eg turn the guitar on and off or listen to the > singer's voice seperately. That would of course open the door for coming up > with our own Roxy/Ferry remixes, once we transfer the seperate tracks to our > computers. But I suppose those genuine multi-track tapes are only slumbering > in the archives of the recording studios? > Gunter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Rosencutter" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track > > > >>Here's a site with everything you ever wanted to know about 8-track tapes: >> >>http://www.8trackheaven.com/ >> >>Incindentally, the 8-track was invented by the Lear Jet Corporation here >>in my hometown of Wichita, Kansas. >> >> >> >>Duncan Watkins wrote: >> >> >>>Excellent info John! >>> >>>Only one other question what is/was a 'slipcase'? >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Duncan. >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: OBrienFerry@aol.com >>>>Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >>>>To: avalon@smoe.org >>>>Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track >>>>Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:48:09 EST >>>> >>>>8 tracks were called this because across the width of the tape were 8 >>>>separate tracks(not songs) that gave 4 stereo pairs. The tape head had >>>>8 pick >>>>ups on it and any pair could be used at any time by selecting button >>>>1-4.This >>>>made accessing the songs easier. I have most of the stuff that was >>>>released >>>>on 8-track which is up to Manifesto >>>> >>>>You can see some in these pictures as well as other formats of the >>>>albums:- >>>>http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/roxy%20debut.jpg >>>> >>>>http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/foryourpleasure.jpg >>>> >>>>http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/stranded.jpg >>>> >>>>http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/inyourmind.jpg >>>> >>>>http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/greatesthits.jpg >>>> >>>>http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/largeimages/vivaroxymusic.jpg >>>> >>>>John O'Brien >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > ___________________________________________________________________________ > >>>>The subliminable footer says: >>>>To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >>>>unsubscribe avalon >>>> >>>> >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >>> > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >>> >>> > ___________________________________________________________________________ > >>>The subliminable footer says: >>>To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >>>unsubscribe avalon >>> >> >> > ___________________________________________________________________________ > >>The subliminable footer says: >>To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >>unsubscribe avalon >> > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 17:16:59 -0800 (PST) From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Very Chic, very necessary I saw this at eBay. A super swanky 6 0z Roxy Music drinking flask. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1481238787 *** Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:20:37 EST From: CoconutTears@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track Gunter, I believe you are thinking of recording studio equipment--e.g. 8-track, 16-track, etc. Same name, different thing entirely. Too bad, it would be fun to twiddle with the mixes. Karen NP: Battlefield Band ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 17:54:46 -0800 (PST) From: Johnny Reece Subject: [AVALON] Re : SOTW : Sentimental Fool Ah, you knew I couldn't resist this one, didn't you Colleen ? >>love it? hate it?>> LOVE it. This is my favourite Roxy Music song. Even though I'm not particularly fond of the chorus at all, as it 'plods' a bit, the rest of the song I still find so original and exciting, that it tops my all time Roxy list. It has, since 1975, and that's not going to alter. It's not from my fave Album of course (which is FYP) but this song still stands out like a gem. It has all the essential Roxy qualities - mystery, darkness, etc... and don't forget, it was 3 separate songs originally, pieced together at the last minute, to form the whole piece. I remember reading that fact some years back, going through all the old cuttings I rescued from old NMEs, Melody Makers etc, from interviews with the Band. >>>lyrics/music>>> Shivers down the spine from the off. I love the intro, so mysterious, detached... and the first line is a spine-tingler, 'Surely you cannot be leading me on' ?... But, to the music. 4mins 44 secs onwards - that's the whole hub of it for me. Yes, a short piece of time I know - but 4.44 to 6.10 - the finest piece of music ever produced by the Band, imo. The backing, the mood, the lyrics, the feel, the atmosphere - there's something about that end piece, that gets me every single time. And what an ending. Stops you dead, in its tracks. If anyone, in years to come, said to me "what was so special about Roxy Music then" ? - I'd pull that piece of music out, and say, 'there, that's what. Now do you understand' ? >>>it changed my life>>> It probably did, because it cemented all my thoughts (and claims to anyone who would listen) that this Band were untouchable, when at their best. The song still sends me into a sort of strange trance, too. Really. >>>live vs. studio version>>> Different thoughts on this now. At the time, when Roxy opened with this on the Siren tour, it was quite unbelievable - a stunning start to any gig. Particular fond memories of thinking 'where's Ferry' ? as he began singing it long before he made his entrance stage right. What a beginning, what an entrance. Eventually strolling on, close to the chorus. Listening back now, they made a dogs dinner of it (sorry !) - but I have a few recordings dotted around, and they sound bloody awful. Just being honest... The memory of the excitement of it all has not dimmed though, not one bit. >>>the video (if any)>>> I cannot remember if this is on the Stockholm footage, is it ? Or was it missing ? >>>that reminds me...>>> I'm off to play it now. (Trance-like state ensues) Reecey... Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 21:34:57 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : SOTW : Sentimental Fool On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Johnny Reece wrote: > Ah, you knew I couldn't resist this one, > didn't you Colleen ? And why would you want to resist it, my friend? I don't know if it's my favorite Roxy Music song (that might be "Just Another High"), but it's certainly one of my very favorite songs off of what I think is not only my favorite Roxy album, but what might be my favorite album of all time. Yes, I admit it: I was self-indulgent this week. So sue me. But as the album is also home to "Love Is The Drug," it's a song I am sure almost everyone here knows and maybe it could entice some of the new folks to contribute some of their thoughts about Roxy and/or Ferry. All these years and hundreds (or more) of listens later I still love the creepy beginning and then Ferry's falsetto landing from above with that accusatory opening line--pure drama, and High Drama at that, that pulls you into the song. I think "Just Another High" is more heartfelt and so much sadder and more vulnerable, but there is a vulnerability in these lyrics too. But that vulnerability is offset by the dialogue he has with himself and the song is as emotionally complex as his best work. Oh, I know his reputation is the king of the heartbreak song, but that one dimensional view doesn't give his performances and his lyrics their justice. And the vulnerability is also offset by those incredible performances by Roxy as a band. It may have had as its genesis three songs crammed into one it may have had as its genesis, but the band makes it a convincing whole. > But, to the music. 4mins 44 secs onwards - that's the > whole hub of it for me. Yes, a short piece of time I > know - but 4.44 to 6.10 - the finest piece of music > ever produced by the Band, imo. The backing, the mood, > the lyrics, the feel, the atmosphere - there's > something about that end piece, that gets me every > single time. And what an ending. Stops you dead, in > its tracks. The last section is sinuous and mesmerizing. And oh so insistent. I think I'm going to go listen again. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 18:49:01 -0800 (PST) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : SOTW : Sentimental Fool Andy Mackay contributed to my favorite songs off Siren; "Love is the Drug" and a long-time personal favorite "Sentimental Fool". WOW! What Music! If they haven't been done yet, some other Andy co-written tunes would make good songs of the week; "A Song for Europe", "Three and Nine", "Bittersweet" and "Angel Eyes". - --- Colleen Matan wrote: > On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Johnny Reece wrote: > > > Ah, you knew I couldn't resist this one, > > didn't you Colleen ? > > And why would you want to resist it, my friend? > > I don't know if it's my favorite Roxy Music song > (that might be "Just > Another High"), but it's certainly one of my very > favorite songs off of > what I think is not only my favorite Roxy album, but > what might be my > favorite album of all time. > > Yes, I admit it: I was self-indulgent this week. > So sue me. But as the > album is also home to "Love Is The Drug," it's a > song I am sure almost > everyone here knows and maybe it could entice some > of the new folks to > contribute some of their thoughts about Roxy and/or > Ferry. > > All these years and hundreds (or more) of listens > later I still love the > creepy beginning and then Ferry's falsetto landing > from above with that > accusatory opening line--pure drama, and High Drama > at that, that pulls > you into the song. I think "Just Another High" is > more heartfelt and so > much sadder and more vulnerable, but there is a > vulnerability in these > lyrics too. > > But that vulnerability is offset by the dialogue he > has with himself and > the song is as emotionally complex as his best work. > Oh, I know his > reputation is the king of the heartbreak song, but > that one dimensional > view doesn't give his performances and his lyrics > their justice. And the > vulnerability is also offset by those incredible > performances by Roxy as a > band. It may have had as its genesis three songs > crammed into one it may > have had as its genesis, but the band makes it a > convincing whole. > > > But, to the music. 4mins 44 secs onwards - that's > the > > whole hub of it for me. Yes, a short piece of time > I > > know - but 4.44 to 6.10 - the finest piece of > music > > ever produced by the Band, imo. The backing, the > mood, > > the lyrics, the feel, the atmosphere - there's > > something about that end piece, that gets me every > > single time. And what an ending. Stops you dead, > in > > its tracks. > > The last section is sinuous and mesmerizing. And oh > so insistent. > > I think I'm going to go listen again. > > Colleen *** Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 22:13:28 -0500 From: David Neuhaus Subject: Re: [AVALON] Don't Be Cruel/Title I was able to pick it up in Tower in Manhattan on Friday, so it should be available, unless the Canadian issue date is delayed for some reason. As for the song, I think it's a great Ferry interpretation. I love his voice on this one. It was also fun to listen to the CD without the case being nearby - trying to guess who each artist was. McCartney took a while for me to recognize, and I don't think I realized it was Elton John at all on his number. Overall, I enjoy the collection, but keep going back to DBC. I might be biased. Dave N. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 23:21:52 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Sentimental Fool" I'd like to add my vote to this as my favorite Roxy song from my favorite Roxy album. To me this song is the "manifesto" of all of Ferry's love songs. It describes that very first, head over heels love, and when it inevitably comes to an end, there's a loss of innocence that never comes back. Certainly you can fall in love again, and indeed want to (just to relive one minute), but it is never in that same completely trusting way. You want to feel that initial rush again, but you gotta keep the guard up so you can try to minimize the heartbreak that may come later. > A woman in love > Can make you feel good > You know what you're living for > > She'll give you so much > And keep you in touch > With all that's worth living for > > Oh once she gets in > Through thick and through thin > She'll show you what living's for Here Ferry shows that he's not the cad he's often accused of being. It's more than conquest--when she's in love, you feel great. > The rhythm of love > It must go on > Can't stop Isn't the line "the ritual of love"? At least that's how I've always heard it. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 01:52:54 -0800 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Marilyn Chambers - ----- Original Message ----- From: Sebastian Fasthuber To: Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 5:14 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Marilyn Chambers She did what was at the time considered a groundbreaking porn film "Behind the Green Door" (for the life of me I don't know why). she did lots of hardcore but has turned to softcore since now she is around 50... Keith NP: Moonage Daydream / David Bowie > > Porn star? She was on the cover of the playboy ...I have three jpeg's of > it > > and although she isn't dressed for skiing you can hardly call that porn. > > yes, but she DID porn movies, too. > and i'm not talking of two or thre.. > > regards, > sebastian > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:06:59 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track Potentially, audio-DVD could allow for an album to be formatted so the listener could remix tracks to their own satisfaction in this way. There's so much data space on the DVD format that we could be buying something like a copy of the 24-track master. Can't really see it happening, though. Too much of a gift to the pirates? At least the "biz" would probably say so. Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Gunther Wandtke Sent: 05 November 2001 00:33 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] how many versions?/8-track After reading through those tech info pages I'm slightly disappointed. I thought 8 track means that each track is playing 8 seperate sub-tracks at the same time, allowing to eg turn the guitar on and off or listen to the singer's voice seperately. That would of course open the door for coming up with our own Roxy/Ferry remixes, once we transfer the seperate tracks to our computers. But I suppose those genuine multi-track tapes are only slumbering in the archives of the recording studios? Gunter ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 08:21:12 -0000 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: [AVALON] Some Like it Hot of course, it was Billy Wilder. Not Robert Wise. How many points do I lose for that? Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #521 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest