From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #502 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, October 28 2001 Volume 06 : Number 502 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Tour merchandise ["Ivor Canning" ] Re: [AVALON] Tour merchandise [bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick)] Re: [AVALON] Tour merchandise [bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick)] Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith [bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick)] Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] What is a true fan? ["PeteK" ] Re: [AVALON] Tour merchandise ["R. Jackson" ] [AVALON] NEWS FROM JAPAN. ? ["kaye grovess" ] [AVALON] KP ["Eman 97" ] [AVALON] Colleen-arama ["Eman 97" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith ["Prince Of Happiness" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Gratitude; Manzanera & MacKay solo ["Gerard York" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith ["Keith Shockley" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Charlotte does" Carrickfergus"New CD. ["Keith Shockley" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith ["R. Jackson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Tour merchandise Bill MacCormick crosses the Rubicon of good taste: > I always thought Ivor Canning would like rather splendid in one... and KBP weighs in with: > LOL! I rather fancy Ivor hooded - 'Brother' Ivor Extraordinaire! Blimey - what is all this ? Goad Ivor week ?? Tch ! Regards, Ivor. n.p. King Crimson 'Vrooom Vrooom' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:44 +0100 (BST) From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Tour merchandise In article <5.1.0.14.2.20011027040347.01401fa8@pop3.norton.antivirus>, jackson.robert.r@worldnet.att.net (R. Jackson) wrote: > I dunno about anyone else, but the form wasn't working for me. Every > time I tried to submit, it timed out on me. I certainly like the > concept, though. ;-) > > -Rob Turns out that the Bravenet server is being moved and is out of action for the next 24 hours. Timing is everything! BM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:44 +0100 (BST) From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Tour merchandise In article <3BDAE476.5020003@kscable.com>, jrosencutter@kscable.com (Jim Rosencutter) wrote: > Are there pictures of these items somewhere? I have some somewhere but the manzanera.com server is experiencing problems too and I'm not sure I can upload at the moment. BM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:44 +0100 (BST) From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith In article <3BDABC00.11DC2FBA@attglobal.net>, kbporte@attglobal.net (KB Porter) wrote: > I'm excited by the prospect of new and or reworked material being done > by Mr. Manzanera and yourself. BTW, are you still politically involved > with the liberal party? You must be very busy. I retire next May after 12 years as a local councillor. But what keeps me really busy nowadays is the Genesis site. BM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:47:15 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith At 18.44 +0100 1-10-27, Bill MacCormick wrote: >I retire next May after 12 years as a local councillor. But what keeps me >really busy nowadays is the Genesis site. Did you enjoy politics and are Genesis officially defunkt? NP Abba, Super Trouper Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:12:09 -0700 From: "PeteK" Subject: [AVALON] What is a true fan? I think it is absurd for a vocal minority to define for the rest of us what a "true fan" is. IE: one who only appreciates 72-75 era Roxy. I've been attending Roxy/Ferry shows since 82. Buying the posters and programs. Buying all the albums and Cd's. Sending letters to the fan club and joining this mailing list. I think I'm a true fan. I also like most of the second era (79-82) Roxy and most of Bryans's solo work, irrespective of when it was done. In my opinon their is nothing more boorish than a snob. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:47:07 -0700 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Tour merchandise Not a problem. Us Roxy fans are renowned for our patience and diligence. ;-) - -Rob At 06:44 PM 10/27/2001 +0100, you wrote: >Turns out that the Bravenet server is being moved and is out of action for >the next 24 hours. Timing is everything! > >BM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 21:17:23 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?= Subject: [AVALON] Roxygong There are many terrible examples of terrible contracts from the 70's. I know several people in a group called Gong. They signed some contracts in the 70s ( probably or surely under the influence of several substances) that were just horrible. When Virgin and Charly release and sell their back-catalogue today, the band gets less than 10 pence for each copy. They've been to court (supported by the artists' union), they won, but couldn't afford the second round in court after the record-company appealed (Charly). I guess you've heard about this, Bill. The band found one solution. They released a live album, but changed the titles of the old songs. The record company owned the studio-versions of the songs and the titles, but not the live versions with the new titles. This was legally correct, they sold a few thousand copies of "The Birthday Party", the record company didn't get a penny. If Virgin refuses Roxy to release old concerts, maybe this could be something to threaten them with? (Not that I'm serious about Roxy doing the same as Gong did! Roxy is in quite a different division!) AND, Bill MacCormick, I thought you were much more radical than the liberal party?! ;-) All the best Ole np Gong-From Live 2 Infinitea - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill MacCormick To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Agree to differ. > In 1972 people signed contracts in all innocence that stitched them up in > the most unholy fashion. I know, I signed one. It's really only in the > last ten years or so that artists have woken up to the reality of their > legal situation and most are unable to do anything because of the > prohibitive legal costs. The band presumably signed their original > contract with EG in good faith believing it protected their best interests > but a way was found to get round it which was not in their best interests. > > I believe that what is needed is for a group of bands/artists to get > together to take a case to the European Court about restraint of trade. > Thousands of albums are contractually stitched up and the artists are > unable to exploit their back catalogues without the labels either imposing > unreasonable overrides or just saying no. This I believe breaks the law > in a variety of ways but a legal precedent is required to enable people to > get their music back. The contract I signed in 1972 is indicative of the > problem: Matching Mole signed to CBS and they, as Sony, own those two > albums in perpetuity even though they have not been pressed for years. I > would like to get them back and re-package them and add stuff. Sony don't > want to know and I can't force the issue. Through no fault of their own, > RM are in a pretty similar position. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:05:56 -0400 From: "Peter Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxygong Ole, Thanks for bringing up the name of Gong, another of my all-time favorite bands. Pete Seely - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ole-Petter Drxnen" To: Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: [AVALON] Roxygong > There are many terrible examples of terrible contracts from the 70's. > > I know several people in a group called Gong. > They signed some contracts in the 70s ( probably or surely under the influence of several substances) that were just horrible. > When Virgin and Charly release and sell their back-catalogue today, the band gets less than 10 pence for each copy. They've been to court (supported by the artists' union), they won, but couldn't afford the second round in court after the record-company appealed (Charly). I guess you've heard about this, Bill. > > The band found one solution. They released a live album, but changed the titles of the old songs. The record company owned the studio-versions of the songs and the titles, but not the live versions with the new titles. > This was legally correct, they sold a few thousand copies of "The Birthday Party", the record company didn't get a penny. > If Virgin refuses Roxy to release old concerts, maybe this could be something to threaten them with? (Not that I'm serious about Roxy doing the same as Gong did! Roxy is in quite a different division!) > > AND, Bill MacCormick, I thought you were much more radical than the liberal party?! ;-) > > All the best > Ole > > np Gong-From Live 2 Infinitea > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill MacCormick > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 12:12 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Agree to differ. > > > In 1972 people signed contracts in all innocence that stitched them up in > > the most unholy fashion. I know, I signed one. It's really only in the > > last ten years or so that artists have woken up to the reality of their > > legal situation and most are unable to do anything because of the > > prohibitive legal costs. The band presumably signed their original > > contract with EG in good faith believing it protected their best interests > > but a way was found to get round it which was not in their best interests. > > > > I believe that what is needed is for a group of bands/artists to get > > together to take a case to the European Court about restraint of trade. > > Thousands of albums are contractually stitched up and the artists are > > unable to exploit their back catalogues without the labels either imposing > > unreasonable overrides or just saying no. This I believe breaks the law > > in a variety of ways but a legal precedent is required to enable people to > > get their music back. The contract I signed in 1972 is indicative of the > > problem: Matching Mole signed to CBS and they, as Sony, own those two > > albums in perpetuity even though they have not been pressed for years. I > > would like to get them back and re-package them and add stuff. Sony don't > > want to know and I can't force the issue. Through no fault of their own, > > RM are in a pretty similar position. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 20:50:43 +0000 From: "kaye grovess" Subject: [AVALON] NEWS FROM JAPAN. ? WHILE AT WORK A JAPANESE PASSENGER INFORMED ME YESTERDAY THAT HE HAD READ AN ARTICLE IN HIS OWN COUNTRY ABOUT THE MOST FAMOUS PEOPLE THAT SUFFERED WITH THE CRIPPLING DISEASE M S. QUITE NEAR THE TOP WAS OUR OWN BRYAN!!! CAN ANYONE SHED ANY LIGHT ON THIS ? UNFORTUNATELY I HAD A DEPARTURE TO FINALISE SO I HAD NO TIME TO QUESTION HIM MORE. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:52:57 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] KP >>Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:15:57 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Ripoff! "...Sorry for length, end of rant." And your point was? "My money, my choice, my consciousness, my choice." Was that so hard to say in anything less than 5K?<< Considering the only intent of your post was rudeness, it could have been "said" in no "K" at all. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:44:16 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Colleen-arama Colleen, Know what? I don't care what you think about any of my posts here, really, ever, and you know that... To me you are quite simply a sad deluded idiot, and one of the most classless, rude, sad, control freaks I have encountered on the Internet. You are routinely rude and mean to any variety of people here. So the fact that you do it to me, is no big deal. But once in a while I will out you for what you are here. I don't care that you have been 'queen bitch' here long enough to fool some other lifeless dolts into supporting your every ill-mannered behaviour here on this list. Some of them don't understand English well enough (as it is not their primary language) to realize what a pathetic creature you are. And, I know from off line experience that the number of that ilk are far smaller than the sweet silent lurkers, here, who pity you and roll their eyes at your act. The fact that you and a few of your bully pulpit friends make some nice people cower here, is one of the truly sad phenoms of the Net. And, is there any topic to which you don't feel you have to contribute the diarreah that is your opinion??? How many days a month do you go with out posting??? (And, really, although you quest to sound smart, your earnest commentary is not even that interesting, you seem to exist here, daily, ad naseum, for a "social life" more than anything else.) I imagine you are some unattractive, unhappy wage slave who only gains a sense of power and control on an Internet Mailing list. Which is why you do it. Unlike you, I have a life and do not need to post on every topic, all day long, every day, ad naseum. A long time ago, "Out of the Blue," you decided you needed to be rude to something I posted here. And I have seen you do it to others. You're action. Your decision. Your behaviour. You fired the first shot. And when someone ignores you, you fire again. And again. It is what you did to me. And when someone responds to your rude attacks? You play victim and appeal to your sycophants to come to your defense. But there is no defense for the kind of person you are here. No defense at all. Just because you and/or a minority of your "loyal to a fault" dysfunctional fan club members, can flood this list with messages on occassion, does not make you "right" or a good person or a good standard here. It just means y'all got too much time on your hands. ...And You are quite simply not a nice person here. You initiate all the attacks on others you have fueded with. Every single beef you have been in here, you are the offender, the initiator... Why is that? And you are a nice Catholic girl??? Take it up with your priest at your next confession. I bet off list, if you have any consciousness at all, you have guilt over your uncontrollable, addiction level attacks on strangers here... It is like you get some cheap sad thrill of attacking people...strangers on the Net. In real life I am sure you are a coward. Which is why you do it here. But here is the deal. - --You are the least Roxy Music-like person here-- The least. You have the least "Roxy Class" of anyone on this list. This past summer I met probably 30 people from this list at Roxy Concerts, and they were all WONDERFUL. Absolutely Wonderful. Some were more than wonderful (you know who you are!) (BTW: Not one considered you a friend, and most considered you a nutcase). The fact that you are the opposite of that wonderfulness -- the absolute wonderfulness of the marjority of vocal and non-vocal folks on this list -- cannot tarnish the experience of this list, nor the fun and joy this list and those people have given me. So blow it out your ear. e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:21:23 -0700 From: "Prince Of Happiness" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith >Indeed, what about them? Phil has never heard of them and he doesn't >recollect getting paid anything. > >BM Oh dear...then would Virgin have "gone behind their backs" and sell the rights to NMC Music Ltd. and/or Burning Airlines to distribute this live album? It's horrid that Phil hasn't gotten paid for any of this since he a) played on the album, and b) co-wrote four of the frickin' tracks on it... I'm getting pretty curious about this company since they distributed two rather enjoyable Joy Division live albums. The ironic part is that they have links to Phil's site as well! On another note...did any of your older work get distributed in the U.S.? The Prince of Happiness "Made sacrifice your key to paradise Never mind, take the world by storm Just boogaloo a rhapsody divine"-Roxy Music, "Pyjamarama" http://princeofhappines.tripod.com/thepageofhappines.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 23:41 +0100 (BST) From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith In article , daniel.atterbom@odata.se (Daniel Atterbom) wrote: > Did you enjoy politics and are Genesis officially defunkt? Used to and who knows? If Roxy can reform so can anyone - as long as the ticket prices aren't too high ;-) BTW, their new DVD is pretty impressive. BM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 23:42 +0100 (BST) From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) Subject: [AVALON] Merchandise Ooh, Bravenet must be back on line as I'm suddenly getting responses to the merchandise survey. BM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 23:41 +0100 (BST) From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxygong In article <005701c15f1c$a42cb180$caac243e@Opdtapes>, opdtapes@online.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ole-Petter_Dr=F8nen?=) wrote: > I know several people in a group called Gong. > I > guess you've heard about this, Bill. I was in Gong, very very briefly and thankfully never had to sign (ingest or smoke) anything! > AND, Bill MacCormick, I thought you were much more radical than the > liberal party?! ;-) As the Lib Dems are the most radical main stream party in the UK I'm not sure what you mean. But I'll bet we don't want to get into a discussion about Tony Blair and his new Conservative Party here do we? ;-) BM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 19:10:32 -0400 From: "Theresa Fagan" Subject: [AVALON] Muliple Sclerosis this is a list of famous "F" people with MS: Donna Fargo - Country and western singer Dino Ferrari - Ferrari automobiles (gave his name to the Ferrari Dino and the Centro Dino Ferrari) Lola Folana - singer Bryan Forbes - actor, writer, director (married to Nanette Newman) Michael Frimkess - Potter Annette Funicello - singer, dancer, former Mouseketeer Spot where the "friend" went wrong. - --TriTri ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 20:33:49 -0400 From: "Gerard York" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Gratitude; Manzanera & MacKay solo I missed Roxy in the 70s and 80s so I was overjoyed to see Roxy in Boston Fleet Pavilion on Tuesday July 17. I regret that due to some very bad traffic in downtown Boston (to understate) I barely made it to the concert on time and missed hooking up with the Avalonians. My only other (slight) disappointment was they didn't play "Mother of Pearl" --otherwise, as one reviewer said, "heaven was in reach." What vitality! If it helps fund their retirement accounts, great. In the past decade, I've seen similarly powerful Procol Harum and King Crimson concerts but that's about all that compares. I had planned to hook up with some friends from Ukraine and catch the Molsen Center show in beautiful Montreal, but that show got cancelled, so I had the scenic pleasure of driving down through Vermont and returning north up through New Hampshire. In both cases, I did not do much more than waive at the Canadian border, a situation unlikely to recur after September 11. All in all, a great experience. Thank you, Roxy. I have all available Roxy and Ferry material, but I'm now starting in on the Manzanera and Mackay solo material on Phil's website, so any "beginner's guide" pointers on "where to start" are welcome. It's the least I can do for these gentlemen after the magnificent show. Gerry NP: Ian Hunter "Rant" (and hoping for a Mott the Hoople reunion tour) - ---- Original Message ----- From: KWil632057@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 11:31 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Ripoff! I might be in a minority here, but did anyone else have a good time this summer? I did... Jonathan n/p Joe Dolce 'Shuddup a ya Face'Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 01:50:41 +0100 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxygongcarmenrollers Ole mentioned: > There are many terrible examples of terrible contracts from the 70's. Earlier this evening, I saw a TV documentary-biog of Carmen Miranda who, when she left Brazil, was already a hugely successful entertainer. By the mid-1940's, she was the highest-paid woman in the US and Lee Schubert, the impresario who brought her to the states, was taking an astonishing 50% of her earnings. 'Ay-yi-yi' indeed... Regards, Ivor. n.p. Magma '1001 Centigrades' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 20:36:20 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: Nero 5.5 - slight pop between some tracks on source disc > What's left to experiment with? Should I uncheck D-A-O? Rod, Unchecking DAO will add 2 second gaps between tracks. I started out using CDQuad myself but had the *pop* problem with it. Since I got EZ CD Creator (by Roxio) I've had no problems. Let me do a bit of reading, and get back to you if no-one else knows the solution. Judy PS - When I ran spell-check it suggested I replace *uncheck* with upchuck! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 01:39:11 GMT From: webwolf@nwinternet.com Subject: [AVALON] Last Chance for NY GA and LA trees Hi All, OK, here is your last chance to get in on the current tree of the NY, LA or Atlanta shows (from me anyway). If I have not received an email requesting information by Monday, Oct. 29 (ok, I will be lenient allowing for time zones!) then this tree offer has officially ended, and I will handle the requests I have already received. Next week I will offer another three-cd tree, so keep you eyes peeled! Feel the excitement building! You may email me at webwolf@nwi.net to request info on this current tree. Thanks, Brian PS, The Avalon list doesn't seem to like my Outlook Express... I can't seem to post here from there... if anyone has emailed me, and I have not responded, let me know! Thanks... - --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Northwest Internet WebMail. http://www.nwinternet.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:57:23 EDT From: DKellergrl@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Cover Songs Good evening all, I just heard a wonderful cover of RM's "More Than This" from Charlie Hunter Trio featuring Nora. It had a great breezy jazz sound to it. I just downloaded my email and I was reading some Avalon emails while I heard this familar song playing in the background on WFUV. To my delight, it was RM. dimples "At first, I wanted unconditional surrender, then I wanted unconditional love." Keller - OZ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:23:27 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: Nero 5.5 - slight pop between some tracks on source disc Rod, Are you converting to wav before burning? Doing that may eliminate the problem. Here's a link that may answer some burning questions for you. Read 3-3 and see if it helps. http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq.html Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 01:29:54 -0700 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill MacCormick To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith A Genesis reunion without Gabriel would be like a doors reunion without Morrison. sorry, just my humble opinion. Keith > In article , daniel.atterbom@odata.se > (Daniel Atterbom) wrote: > > > Did you enjoy politics and are Genesis officially defunkt? > > Used to and who knows? If Roxy can reform so can anyone - as long as the > ticket prices aren't too high ;-) > > BTW, their new DVD is pretty impressive. > > BM > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 01:34:13 -0700 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather James To: Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith Since Roxy reformed after many years on hiatus, I would believe the DVD would sell quite nicely. At the least, it would be a must-have for everyone who attended the 2001 shows. Am I being naive here? Keith > Bill - as long as your here - are you familiar with the King Crimson > Collector's Club Robert Fripp put together a few years back. > Folks join up and send in money up-front for 6 discs, and he works > through his old archived concert tapes (and the occasional bootleg), > cleans them up, sweetens them and distributes them to the club - about > every other month, on average. > I believe he's up to release # 16 or 17 these days. > > Seems like a great way to get material out to the fans that isn't > available otherwise, and wouldn't sell in large enough quantities to > interest > a large record company. I'd heard that Phil had quite a collection of > archived recordings ... is this kind of private collectors club a > possibility for Roxy and Phil ? or perhaps for 801 or some of the other > archived music? > > > > -= )-(eather =- > >--------------------< > hjames@thewebgal.com > > Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ > My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ > My Music Trader Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------< > > > > > > Bill MacCormick wrote: > > >>However, it did strike me in an off-guard moment that, as > >>there would be eventual income from the DVD, that might be set > >>against the cost of the concert, discounting the cost of the seats > >> > > > >The DVD will be lucky to do more than break even. Live CDs, etc., are > >notoriously poor sellers. > > > >BM > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >The subliminable footer says: > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 01:37:37 -0700 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Charlotte does" Carrickfergus"New CD. - ----- Original Message ----- From: M.M.K. To: Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 6:56 AM Subject: [AVALON] Re: Charlotte does" Carrickfergus"New CD. I continue to be enchanted by Charlotte Church's voice. I bought her first two cds for my stepdaughter but have probably listened to them more than she has. and from what I have heard of her new cd, puberty has done nothing to damage her vocalizations. Keith > SGIYE, what can I say, Love the song always have. But since Bryan only > covered it, Prefer the original but Bryan did put a lot of heart into > it. Speaking of music,--- Picked up two new CD'S yesterday.--- Enigma's > , L.S.D. Love,Sensuality.Devotion, The Greatest Hits. New Material > alone with greats from I'st & 2'nd album. Very gooooood. Another was > Charlotte Church----Enchantment.----- She's spread her wings & has done > her own interpretation to some classical,Broadway, Film, & Celtic. > You'll love how" Habanera" has a funky Spanish flavor complete with the > wonderful guitar work. Lot's of Flamenco guitar & gypsy violin. Her > beautiful Celtic "CARRICKFERGUS" & "The Water Is Wide". Her Aria of" The > Flower Duet" at her age is remarkable.'Can't Help Lovin Dat Man". "The > Prayer"( with Josh Groban) , look out Sara Brightman, Charlotte has > grown up. There isn't a bad cut on this CD. Whether she's trying to > reach a wider audience like Sara , she has proven she can sing anything > & well. Highly recommend these two CD's. Rated B............. > Marlana...................................................... > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 22:31:23 -0700 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Hammersmith Yeah, that's about the size of it. I don't know if Phil could actually sit down and drum for a whole tour, though, even if they could talk Peter into it (which seems doubtful). Phil seems to like being the center of attention too much to sit behind Peter again. It sure would be a tour to see, though. They could even do some Wind and Wuthering with Phil singing, but I'd rather see them stop before ...And Then There Were Three. I have a hard time sitting through most of the music they released from there on. ;-) - -Rob At 01:29 AM 10/28/2001 -0700, Keith Shockley wrote: >A Genesis reunion without Gabriel would be like a doors reunion without >Morrison. sorry, just my humble opinion. > >Keith ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #502 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest