From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #497 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, October 25 2001 Volume 06 : Number 497 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Marketing economics [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Poster Tree ? ["Douglas Robertson" ] Re: [AVALON] Poster Tree ? ["Simon Galloway" ] Fw: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets ["Douglas Robertson" ] Re: [AVALON] Two Dicks Battle It Out [KB Porter ] RE: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] RE: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model [Johnny Reece ] Re: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model [InterEireann@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model ["Chris Turner" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:06:09 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Marketing economics >From: "Chris Turner" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Two Dicks Battle It Out >I'm guessing you didn't major in maths... >Chris Chris, I'm guessing you didn't neither... The figures were arbitrary (I forgot how picky some Avalonians can be) but the principle remains the same. If Hammersmith holds 4,000. And they all paid #40, they would contribute #160,000. If only 80% of 4,000 pay #50, they will contribute #160,000 also. So the marketing people would gamble that if they manage to sell just one more ticket over 80%, they will make more profit than if they completely sell out at #40. But then I'm in marketing, so what do I know? Best wishes Richard n/p Berlin Beauty Queens - Roxy Music ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:07:49 +0100 From: "Douglas Robertson" Subject: [AVALON] Poster Tree ? Hi All Any Avalonions out there know if there is anybody who can get copies of Posters ?. I have tried to get Stranded (huge) 2 versions or Roxy Music 1st album cover. and is there a FYP one out there anywhere. TARA Alan. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:12:25 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Marketing economics Hammy A holds 3000 MAX. I checked it out before, we do a lot of work with the Apollo and Clear Channel so I had it confirmed by an official source. It's a shame they couldn't shed any light on the Roxy dates before they were announced though, I did try, but they were being tight lipped, or probably just ignoring me :-( SimonG >>> 10/25 10:06 am >>> >From: "Chris Turner" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Two Dicks Battle It Out > If Hammersmith holds 4,000. And they all paid #40, they would contribute #160,000. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:19:53 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Poster Tree ? They don't grow on trees you know, they're just made from them!!! ;-) eBay is probably your best bet, although I would always try www.netsounds.com and www.gemm.com SimonG >>> "Douglas Robertson" 10/25 10:07 am >>> Hi All Any Avalonions out there know if there is anybody who can get copies of Posters ?. I have tried to get Stranded (huge) 2 versions or Roxy Music 1st album cover. and is there a FYP one out there anywhere. TARA Alan. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:05:22 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Fw: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets For #37.50p I'm going to see Phantom of the Opera in London tomorrow evening, for this I will get a company of over 20 performers, stunning lead rolls, an incredible set, a programme that costs under a fiver, an orchestra & great songs. I was at Hammy 2, down the front, I had a wonderful time, but my complaint is not really the value for money, but the fact that once promoters start to realise they can charge these sort of ticket prices, then you could be paying 50 pound a ticket to see Bryan Ferry at your local arena in 2002, there you could be 200 rows from the front. It will be a sad state of affairs when artists stop worrying whether their shows don't sell out because they earn exorbitant amounts of cah in the first place. When I first saw Roxy Music in 1973, I think the price of tickets were about 2/3rds of the price of Stranded the album they were promoting. So there you have it. 50pounds is alot of money for a concert, but I paid my 50, stood down the front & had a great time. Terry "O" PS: I think what is really poor is the lack of promised extras (shame on Phil Mananera & his site), as I think that if they had took the trouble to reherse say Beauty Queen & The thrill of it All I would not be typing this now. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosalind Bull To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets > Yes, but our 50 pound tickets got us right down to the very front, and that, > frankly, was worth it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Niki H [mailto:nikifrance@hotmail.com] > Sent: 24 October 2001 19:06 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets > > > I hate to tell you there were some touts outside well before the start of > the second night selling 50 pounds tickets for 5 pounds. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:15:49 +0100 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model No Beauty Queen? They get more and more like Roxy everyday. If any of you guys out there in Europe haven't seen Remake before you really must try, they are superb and it was touch and go as to who we enjoyed more at Rotterdam during the tour, RM or the double RMs. And I'll never forget seeing Ron Remake down the front at Hammersmith 2, singing his heart out, He sounded more like Ferry than Ferry, it was most bizarre. Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: Ed Stobbelaar [mailto:ed.renate@hetnet.nl] Sent: 24 October 2001 19:30 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model Last Saturday Re-make/Re-model played in a bar in Schiedam, near Rotterdam. And it was one of the best gigs I saw of them. It was very busy, and the crowd loved it. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:20:33 +0100 From: "Douglas Robertson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets Phantom of the Opera. gets plenty lottery and tax money to subsidies it ?. poor Roxy have to Work for it and Bryans costumes (silver suit) must have cost a bit ?. Alan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrypaulrigz8c" To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:05 AM Subject: Fw: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets > For #37.50p I'm going to see Phantom of the Opera in London tomorrow > evening, for this I will get a company of over 20 performers, stunning lead > rolls, an incredible set, a programme that costs under a fiver, an orchestra > & great songs. I was at Hammy 2, down the front, I had a wonderful time, but > my complaint is not really the value for money, but the fact that once > promoters start to realise they can charge these sort of ticket prices, then > you could be paying 50 pound a ticket to see Bryan Ferry at your local arena > in 2002, there you could be 200 rows from the front. It will be a sad state > of affairs when artists stop worrying whether their shows don't sell out > because they earn exorbitant amounts of cah in the first place. When I first > saw Roxy Music in 1973, I think the price of tickets were about 2/3rds of > the price of Stranded the album they were promoting. So there you have it. > 50pounds is alot of money for a concert, but I paid my 50, stood down the > front & had a great time. > > Terry "O" > > PS: I think what is really poor is the lack of promised extras (shame on > Phil Mananera & his site), as I think that if they had took the trouble to > reherse say Beauty Queen & The thrill of it All I would not be typing this > now. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rosalind Bull > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:58 AM > Subject: RE: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets > > > > Yes, but our 50 pound tickets got us right down to the very front, and > that, > > frankly, was worth it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Niki H [mailto:nikifrance@hotmail.com] > > Sent: 24 October 2001 19:06 > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets > > > > > > I hate to tell you there were some touts outside well before the start of > > the second night selling 50 pounds tickets for 5 pounds. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:24:05 +0100 From: "Douglas Robertson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets Hi Terry Roxy music also had a cast of hundreds if not Thousands, can you join in and chant, and scream Virginia Plain at the Opera. I dont think so?. But have a nice time anyway. TARA Alan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrypaulrigz8c" To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:05 AM Subject: Fw: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets > For #37.50p I'm going to see Phantom of the Opera in London tomorrow > evening, for this I will get a company of over 20 performers, stunning lead > rolls, an incredible set, a programme that costs under a fiver, an orchestra > & great songs. I was at Hammy 2, down the front, I had a wonderful time, but > my complaint is not really the value for money, but the fact that once > promoters start to realise they can charge these sort of ticket prices, then > you could be paying 50 pound a ticket to see Bryan Ferry at your local arena > in 2002, there you could be 200 rows from the front. It will be a sad state > of affairs when artists stop worrying whether their shows don't sell out > because they earn exorbitant amounts of cah in the first place. When I first > saw Roxy Music in 1973, I think the price of tickets were about 2/3rds of > the price of Stranded the album they were promoting. So there you have it. > 50pounds is alot of money for a concert, but I paid my 50, stood down the > front & had a great time. > > Terry "O" > > PS: I think what is really poor is the lack of promised extras (shame on > Phil Mananera & his site), as I think that if they had took the trouble to > reherse say Beauty Queen & The thrill of it All I would not be typing this > now. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rosalind Bull > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:58 AM > Subject: RE: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets > > > > Yes, but our 50 pound tickets got us right down to the very front, and > that, > > frankly, was worth it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Niki H [mailto:nikifrance@hotmail.com] > > Sent: 24 October 2001 19:06 > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets > > > > > > I hate to tell you there were some touts outside well before the start of > > the second night selling 50 pounds tickets for 5 pounds. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:24:41 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets Nah, he looked like an overdressed turkey... (oh no, not again!) >>> "Douglas Robertson" 10/25 11:20 am >>> Phantom of the Opera. gets plenty lottery and tax money to subsidies it ?. poor Roxy have to Work for it and Bryans costumes (silver suit) must have cost a bit ?. Alan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:29:43 +0100 From: "Douglas Robertson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets and the money he made will get him well stuffed at christmas. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Galloway" To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] hammersmith tickets > Nah, he looked like an overdressed turkey... (oh no, not again!) > > >>> "Douglas Robertson" 10/25 11:20 am >>> > Phantom of the Opera. gets plenty lottery and tax money to subsidies it ?. > poor Roxy have to Work for it and Bryans costumes (silver suit) must have > cost a bit ?. > > Alan > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:30:30 +0000 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Mark II, regrettable acts of mindless vandalism etc. Sorry about the vandalism, Guy, hope nobody got hurt. But I think that your "social comment" description of the Dream Home lyric captures the dividing line between personal experience and reflections on society very well. So it is up to us, the listeners, to decide on how far to stretch the interpretation of the lyric! Yesterday I played some Roxy songs to a friend of mine. She said she didn't know the band. First I checked whether she knew "the later hits" (Avalon, MTT, Dance Away &c.) and yes she did, and then I played Dream Home and Re-make/Re-model to her - those two songs, I thought, were able to roughly represent what the early Roxy stand for... and she liked it! So there's still hope after all... Christian - ---------- >Von: "Guy Lawley" >An: >Betreff: [AVALON] Roxy Mark II, regrettable acts of mindless vandalism etc. >Datum: Mit, 24. Okt 2001 6:06 Uhr > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Exactly... "The personal is the political", as dialectical materialists were >so fond of saying in the 80s! But in 1974/5 we didn't have that slogan to >fall back on! "Social comment" was a way of referring to that notion, >without trying to claim that Ferry was a "political animal" in any accepted >sense. >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >But that's supposedly not the first >thing to spring to mind when one is drunk (I never was, so I don't know...)! >I hope you hit the old idiot in the face at least! Just joking... > >Christian >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Actually I just got a lot drunker and committed regrettable acts of mindless >vandalism on the way home after the party (not joking!). >XX >Guy >------------------------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:46:25 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] 2002 Ferry Set list kdnapped!! > -----Original Message----- > From: terrypaulrigz8c [SMTP:terrypaulrigz8c@supanet.com] > Sent: 24 October 2001 17:33 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] 2002 Ferry Set list kdnapped!! > > Goin' back a bit Chris, I have just noticed you havn't included anything > from These Foolish Things or B&Gs, any reason? > > Terry "O" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 9:05 PM > Subject: [AVALON] 2002 Ferry Set list kdnapped!! > > > > It's a bit gloomy in England today so a bit of positive thought was > > demanded. What would your dream set be for Bryan's hoped for 2002 tour > > (Ferry songs only - 20 max.) and band line-up? Here's mine, not in any > > particular order; > > > > SET > > 1. Can't Let Go (TBSB) > > 2. Which Way to Turn (Mamouna) > > 3. All Tomorrow's Parties (Taxi) > > 4. Your Painted Smile (Mamouna) > > 5. Another Time, Another Place (ATAP) > > 6. Taxi (Taxi) > > 7. This Island Earth (The Bride Stripped Bare) > > 8. Love Me Madly Again ( In Your Mind) > > 9. Sign of the Times (TBSB) > > 10. Help Me (The Fly) > > 11. Are You Lonesome Tonight? > > 12. Name of the Game (Bete Noire) > > 13. Dance With Life (Phenomenon) > > 14. When She Walks In The Room (TBSB) > > 15. I'm in the Mood for Love (As Time Goes By) > > 16. Rock Album Track 1 > > 17. Rock Album Track 2 > > 18. Rock Album Track 3 > > 19. Rock Album Track 4 > > 20. Rock Album Track 5 > > > > BAND > > Vocals : Bryan Ferry (or Ron of Remake if Bryan doesn't fancy it!) > > Bass : Zev Katz > > Piano/Keyboards : Colin Good > > Drums : TGPT > > Guitars : Chris Spedding & Robin Trower > > Violin/keyboards: Lucy Wilkins > > Percussion: Julia Thornton > > Backing Vocals: Sarah Browne plus possibly AN Other > > Sax: ? not sure > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:51:58 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] 2002 Ferry Set list kdnapped!! No particular reason Terry. 'Hard Rains' had a few live plays in 99/2000, 'Sympathy' crossed my mind but don't like the sentiments of the song. B & G was well represented from memory on the '87 tour? Just selected those which I like/find interesting and not heard live before. Could probably come up with another completely different set on another day....! Regards Chris PS. Folks, Re. Roxy Ticket prices.......yawn........ > -----Original Message----- > From: terrypaulrigz8c [SMTP:terrypaulrigz8c@supanet.com] > Sent: 24 October 2001 17:33 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] 2002 Ferry Set list kdnapped!! > > Goin' back a bit Chris, I have just noticed you havn't included anything > from These Foolish Things or B&Gs, any reason? > > Terry "O" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 9:05 PM > Subject: [AVALON] 2002 Ferry Set list kdnapped!! > > > > It's a bit gloomy in England today so a bit of positive thought was > > demanded. What would your dream set be for Bryan's hoped for 2002 tour > > (Ferry songs only - 20 max.) and band line-up? Here's mine, not in any > > particular order; > > > > SET > > 1. Can't Let Go (TBSB) > > 2. Which Way to Turn (Mamouna) > > 3. All Tomorrow's Parties (Taxi) > > 4. Your Painted Smile (Mamouna) > > 5. Another Time, Another Place (ATAP) > > 6. Taxi (Taxi) > > 7. This Island Earth (The Bride Stripped Bare) > > 8. Love Me Madly Again ( In Your Mind) > > 9. Sign of the Times (TBSB) > > 10. Help Me (The Fly) > > 11. Are You Lonesome Tonight? > > 12. Name of the Game (Bete Noire) > > 13. Dance With Life (Phenomenon) > > 14. When She Walks In The Room (TBSB) > > 15. I'm in the Mood for Love (As Time Goes By) > > 16. Rock Album Track 1 > > 17. Rock Album Track 2 > > 18. Rock Album Track 3 > > 19. Rock Album Track 4 > > 20. Rock Album Track 5 > > > > BAND > > Vocals : Bryan Ferry (or Ron of Remake if Bryan doesn't fancy it!) > > Bass : Zev Katz > > Piano/Keyboards : Colin Good > > Drums : TGPT > > Guitars : Chris Spedding & Robin Trower > > Violin/keyboards: Lucy Wilkins > > Percussion: Julia Thornton > > Backing Vocals: Sarah Browne plus possibly AN Other > > Sax: ? not sure > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:02:50 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model Is anyone in touch with RM/RM, are they ever going to get one of thier performances onto tape/CD or maybe record a covers album? Terry "O" NP: The Slider/ T.REX - ----- Original Message ----- From: Fiske, Jocelyn To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model > No Beauty Queen? They get more and more like Roxy everyday. > > > > If any of you guys out there in Europe haven't seen Remake before you really > must try, they are superb and it was touch and go as to who we enjoyed more > at Rotterdam during the tour, RM or the double RMs. > > And I'll never forget seeing Ron Remake down the front at Hammersmith 2, > singing his heart out, He sounded more like Ferry than Ferry, it was most > bizarre. > > > > Jocelyn > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ed Stobbelaar [mailto:ed.renate@hetnet.nl] > > Sent: 24 October 2001 19:30 > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model > > > > > > Last Saturday Re-make/Re-model played in a bar in Schiedam, near Rotterdam. > > > > And it was one of the best gigs I saw of them. > > > > It was very busy, and the crowd loved it. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:06:48 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Fw: [AVALON] 2002 Ferry Set list kdnapped!! Fair enough, I think 'Sympathy' sentiments aside (both yours & Ferrys) would just be the most fantastic opener to a show. Best wishes, Terry "O" NP:Main Man/ T.Rex - ----- Original Message ----- From: Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:51 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] 2002 Ferry Set list kdnapped!! > No particular reason Terry. 'Hard Rains' had a few live plays in 99/2000, > 'Sympathy' crossed my mind but don't like the sentiments of the song. B & G > was well represented from memory on the '87 tour? Just selected those which > I like/find interesting and not heard live before. Could probably come up > with another completely different set on another day....! > > Regards > > Chris > > PS. Folks, Re. Roxy Ticket prices.......yawn........ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: terrypaulrigz8c [SMTP:terrypaulrigz8c@supanet.com] > > Sent: 24 October 2001 17:33 > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] 2002 Ferry Set list kdnapped!! > > > > Goin' back a bit Chris, I have just noticed you havn't included anything > > from These Foolish Things or B&Gs, any reason? > > > > Terry "O" > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 9:05 PM > > Subject: [AVALON] 2002 Ferry Set list kdnapped!! > > > > > > > It's a bit gloomy in England today so a bit of positive thought was > > > demanded. What would your dream set be for Bryan's hoped for 2002 tour > > > (Ferry songs only - 20 max.) and band line-up? Here's mine, not in any > > > particular order; > > > > > > SET > > > 1. Can't Let Go (TBSB) > > > 2. Which Way to Turn (Mamouna) > > > 3. All Tomorrow's Parties (Taxi) > > > 4. Your Painted Smile (Mamouna) > > > 5. Another Time, Another Place (ATAP) > > > 6. Taxi (Taxi) > > > 7. This Island Earth (The Bride Stripped Bare) > > > 8. Love Me Madly Again ( In Your Mind) > > > 9. Sign of the Times (TBSB) > > > 10. Help Me (The Fly) > > > 11. Are You Lonesome Tonight? > > > 12. Name of the Game (Bete Noire) > > > 13. Dance With Life (Phenomenon) > > > 14. When She Walks In The Room (TBSB) > > > 15. I'm in the Mood for Love (As Time Goes By) > > > 16. Rock Album Track 1 > > > 17. Rock Album Track 2 > > > 18. Rock Album Track 3 > > > 19. Rock Album Track 4 > > > 20. Rock Album Track 5 > > > > > > BAND > > > Vocals : Bryan Ferry (or Ron of Remake if Bryan doesn't fancy it!) > > > Bass : Zev Katz > > > Piano/Keyboards : Colin Good > > > Drums : TGPT > > > Guitars : Chris Spedding & Robin Trower > > > Violin/keyboards: Lucy Wilkins > > > Percussion: Julia Thornton > > > Backing Vocals: Sarah Browne plus possibly AN Other > > > Sax: ? not sure > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > > The subliminable footer says: > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:17:44 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model Can I guest on triangle please? Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: terrypaulrigz8c [SMTP:terrypaulrigz8c@supanet.com] > Sent: 25 October 2001 12:03 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model > > Is anyone in touch with RM/RM, are they ever going to get one of thier > performances onto tape/CD or maybe record a covers album? > > Terry "O" > > NP: The Slider/ T.REX ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:38:15 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Fw: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model I could do "treatments" (being a physio) Terry "O" NP: Garbage/absolute - ----- Original Message ----- From: Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model > Can I guest on triangle please? > > Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: terrypaulrigz8c [SMTP:terrypaulrigz8c@supanet.com] > > Sent: 25 October 2001 12:03 > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model > > > > Is anyone in touch with RM/RM, are they ever going to get one of thier > > performances onto tape/CD or maybe record a covers album? > > > > Terry "O" > > > > NP: The Slider/ T.REX > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:01 +0100 (BST) From: bmaccormick@cix.co.uk (Bill MacCormick) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Two Dicks Battle It Out Richard, You are talking bollocks. You clearly have no idea as to how this tour was financed and who was responsible for what. Briefly, though, it goes like this: 1. Promoter approaches RM and offers them $x to do 50 date world tour 2. RM agree 3. Promoter is responsible for choice of venues, ticket prices, sales, promotion, security., 4. RM are responsible for the show, i.e. they are provided with an empty venue, turn up, play, go away. RM cover all costs for show, travel, accommodation, etc. 5. The Apollo was played because, together, the two shows comprised the last date of the tour (technically 50 and 51 but, because of size limitations, actually date 50). The choice of venue was the promoter's. 6. As everywhere else, the venue and the ticket prices were solely the decision of the promoter. 7. The amount of money RM will be paid did not depend on the ticket prices there or anywhere else as the amount they were to be paid was guaranteed up front before the tour even started. 8. Ticket prices were set by the promoter because, in their judgement, they would cover RM's fee, costs and their profits. So, if you have a beef about the ticket prices, take it up with the promoter. They were nothing to do with the band. As to the tour's promotion, SFX were solely responsible for it because that's the way they wanted it. PR, advertising and all other promotional activities (or their lack of) were their responsibility. Why they did the job they did when they knew exactly how much the tour had to gross before it even started is beyond me. Go figure. Bill MacCormick In article <148.3810a2e.2907d727@aol.com>, Chandla911@aol.com () wrote: > Whether Roxy > insist > on being paid upfront or, like Chuck Berry, come offstage at the > precise time > and grab their bag of cash from The Man on their way to the car is > anyone's > guess, but there was one reason why they did this gig. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:46:15 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Two Dicks Battle It Out At 14.01 +0100 1-10-25, Bill MacCormick wrote: >3. Promoter is responsible for choice of venues, ticket prices, sales, >promotion, security., Will there be a new leg of the tour come spring do you think? I guess you are the bass player of 801, so I would like to write that my wife, who has a perfect pitch, think that your playing on "T.N.K." is of the better she has ever heard. NP Marvin Gaye, When Did You Stop Loving Me... Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:25:52 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model "it was touch and go as to who we enjoyed more at Rotterdam during the tour, RM or the double RMs." Stop it! You're really starting to scare me now! "He sounded more like Ferry than Ferry, it was most bizarre." Well there we have it, more like Ferry than Ferry? Perhaps Ferry should hire Like Ferry for vocal overlays and backup. Even prima ballerinas and leading role stage players have understudies. Why, with holographic imaging, we might dispense with Mr. Ferry altogether! Ain't techno slight of hand grand? ;^) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:33:22 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Two Dicks Battle It Out Ahhh, at last, someone who should know! Thanks for the informative post Mr. MacCormick. "As to the tour's promotion, SFX were solely responsible for it because that's the way they wanted it. PR, advertising and all other promotional activities (or their lack of) were their responsibility." I've tried to understand SFX's market strategy with regard to the recently completed Roxy Music tour. The only reasonable conclusion I come to is that the promoter's advertising and publicity (at least in the US) for said tour was minimal, perhaps, because they never really viewed the tour as a profit center, but as a marginal break even deal that occupied SFX venues that may otherwise have been underutilized by the company. It it possible that Roxy Music's shows were staged as capital overhead expense defrayers? Please say it ain't so (genteelly please). Thank you in advance for any considered response you may offer. Best wishes. K.B.Porter ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:28:51 +0100 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model > Perhaps Ferry should hire Like Ferry for vocal overlays and backup. Never mind Robbie and Nicole, I think a Christmas single of "Something Stupid" by Ron Remake and Mr F would work wonders. Mind you if they started now it might just be ready for Christmas 2008. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:42:15 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model "Mind you if they started now it might just be ready for Christmas 2008." LOL!!! You really think Ron could speed things up that quickly? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:48:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnny Reece Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model I hear on the grapevine that Ron has been approached to sing the lines 'Let Me Tell You Something', 'There's A River Flowing', and also the last verse of 'Street Life' on any future Tours. There may be occasions too when he may be asked to sing the word 'hell' during 'Both Ends Burning', though that is unconfirmed at this point. I do hear vicious rumours though, that if 'Mother Of Pearl' is featured on the forthcoming Roxy DVD, that the first two lines have been dubbed in by Ron himself. Reecey... - --------------------------------------- - --- "Fiske, Jocelyn" wrote: > > Perhaps Ferry should > > hire Like Ferry for vocal overlays and backup. Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:22:03 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model On this subject does this band have a schedule for December. With all the rave reviews of their Rotterdam gig, I will divert over to Holland from a trip to U.K. at end of November to see them if I knew when they were playing. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:34:07 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model This is their website: http://www.geocities.com/re_make_re_model/ Here's their current schedule: Saturday October 27, 2001 at half past 10 in the evening: Podiumcafe "De Graauwe hengst", Lange Haven 28 in Schiedam (near Rotterdam). Free entrance. Sunday November 11, 2001 at 19,00 o4clock in cafe Le Vagabond at Nieuwe Binnenweg 99 in Rotterdam. Free entrance. Sunday December 2, 2001 cafe Schoonewil, Bergweg 80, Rotterdam at 7 pm. Free entrance. Saturday December 21, 2001 Barbiertje, Kerkstraat 26, Hellevoetsluis at 11 pm. Free entrance. You can join the newsletter at the site for regular news Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re-make/Re-model > On this subject does this band have a schedule for December. With all the rave reviews of their Rotterdam gig, I will divert over to Holland from a trip to U.K. at end of November to see them if I knew when they were playing. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #497 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest