From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #493 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, October 22 2001 Volume 06 : Number 493 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Hurrah! ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] RE: [AVALON] Hurrah! [Rosalind Bull ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Viva ! ["Terry Lane" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Viva ! ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Andy on TV ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" ["Douglas Robertson" ] Re: [AVALON] Hurrah! ["Gunther Wandtke" ] Re: [AVALON] off topic: King Crimson [Heather James ] Re: [AVALON] Re: SOTW: In Every Dream Home A Heartache ["Christian H. Soe] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" ["Christian H. Soetemann" <] RE: [AVALON] Re : Roxy connections ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] RE: [AVALON] Re: Viva ! ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Just Like You ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" [KB Porter ] Fw: [AVALON] Just Like You ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Fw: [AVALON] Just Like You ["terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hurrah! > At the end of the day, Roxy did the tour for money, they charged high seat > prices in order to achieve their guaranteed fees, they skimped on promotion > because they knew the promoter would pay them anyway and now they've made > their money, they are resting and will wait for the live DVD to help boost > next year's pension/interest income. > > Love them. > > Best wishes > Richard Mills > > n/p OST Out of Africa It is unfortunate that Roxy Music charged such high prices, as there were reports from a high number of Avalonians all over the globe reporting half empty halls/arenas, certainly the 2nd NEC, Birmingham UK gig was only half used. In addition to this I am glad many of the shows did not sell out & I hope the promoters got their fingers slightly burned as it may stop a precident being set, I also think that the U2 show I saw at the NEC was overpriced at 40pounds, but it was a great show and obviously an expensive show to run (at least you could see where the money was going), judging by the stage set. On a more positive note I saw Depeche Mode last night, great show/performance for only 25pounds a ticket, surely if their promoters can make a good profit from that etc, etc. Terry "O" NP: Breathe / Depeche Mode. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:58:03 +0100 From: Rosalind Bull Subject: RE: [AVALON] Hurrah! >It is unfortunate that Roxy Music charged such high prices, ... I saw Depeche Mode last night, great >show/performance for only 25pounds a ticket, surely if their promoters can >make a good profit from that etc, etc. I have just booked to see Brian Wilson at the Royal Festival Hall for fifty of your English pounds per ticket. Obviously, both Roxy and Mr. Beach Boy can get away with it through rarity value. You can't 'um and ah' about it too long or it's sold out and you've lost your chance for (possibly) ever. We also booked to see Dave Gilmour there in January too at #35 top price (- wonder if they'll be anyone interesting in the audience?!) On the other hand, we are going to see Colin Vearncombe at Ronnie Scotts for a tenner, so there are some bargains around. It's pointless worrying about how much the band/promotors are making out of it, you either want to go and see them or you don't, and if you do but think you can't afford it - well, I've always thought eating is over-rated. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:06:20 +0100 From: "Terry Lane" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Viva ! I am sure Ferry sang "Scotsmen & Chinese" on the Avalon tour - If my memory serves me right I think it was the Edinburgh gig.Anyone shine some light on this. Terry Lane >From: "gudcat" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Viva ! >Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:52:22 +0100 > >I tried,(but of course could not find a way) to introduce "York-ies"at >Castle Howard last year,but alas,to no further avail!But no,have never >heard >of any other local-"lyrical switches"- maybe next time would be the best >time,(as you all must know)-so, meantime -best wishes to all youse in that >there Avalonia out there! >Gudcat. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Johnny Reece >To: >Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:54 AM >Subject: [AVALON] Re: Viva ! > > > > >>>The Viva live album was helped by the atmosphere > > the crowds generated,(Glasgow. Newcastle. Wembley) > > Bryan slotting in Geordies instead of Chinese > > at Newcastle made the crowd electric,>>> > > > > Bryan also went for the 'Eskimos and Glaswegie' line, > > but only once (of the 3 Glasgow Gigs) in Oct 74 on the > > Country Life Tour - but have never heard of any other > > location he did the lyric change. Anyone ? > > > > Reecey... > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:09:53 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Viva ! I have a fuzzy old tape of that show so I'll check. It's so bad that I'll probably not be able to make out what he's saying anyway! SimonG >>> "Terry Lane" 10/22 11:06 am >>> I am sure Ferry sang "Scotsmen & Chinese" on the Avalon tour - If my memory serves me right I think it was the Edinburgh gig.Anyone shine some light on this. Terry Lane ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:14:39 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Andy on TV Was that the South Bank Show special? I vaguely recall seeing that, not sure if it's the same programme though. I also recall Mackay on some TV programme (could have been Tomorrow's World or an ITV equivalent) plugging his book and talking about electronics in music, that was about 1982. SimonG >>> stevesiren2 10/20 12:18 am >>> David Firmin wrote:Has anyone seen the Explorers TV special from the 1984 tour? The show was filmed and has been broadcast several times on the television show "Cue The Music". No, I'm not aware of this, but I have got him playing "Two Worlds Apart" with The Explorers on "Wogan" ('85?) plus film of him backing Bonnie Tyler of all people about the same time, although what show it was I've no idea. Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:31:07 +0100 From: "Douglas Robertson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" Hate it. its the only Ferry song I skip, did not seem to put much time and effort doing it, to much in the original style rather than a Ferry style cover. i think someone did it in one of these stars in there eyes type TV shows and it put me of it forever ?. Alan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 6:03 PM Subject: [AVALON] SOTW: "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" > This seems as good a time as any to open the can of worms that is > covers. The song of the what/whenever is "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" from > _Another Time, Another Place_. > > As before the discussion is open to anything related to the song, and > these are only suggestions: > > love it? hate it? > lyrics/music > it changed my life > live vs. studio version(s) (if applicable) > the video (if any) > that reminds me... > > > Smoke Gets In Your Eyes (Kern, Harbach) > > They asked me how I knew > My true love was true > I of course replied > Something here inside > Cannot be denied > > They said someday you'll find > All who love are blind > When your heart's on fire, > You must realize > Smoke gets in your eyes > > So I chaffed them as I gaily laughed > To think they could doubt my love > Yet today my love has flown away > I am without my love > > Now laughing friends deride > Tears I cannot hide > So I smile and say > When a lovely flame dies > Smoke gets in your eyes > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 06:31:23 -0400 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hurrah! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrypaulrigz8c" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 4:50 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hurrah! > It is unfortunate that Roxy Music charged such high prices, as there were > reports from a high number of Avalonians all over the globe reporting half > empty halls/arenas, I don`t attend as many concerts as I`d like anymore due to the high price of tickets (I did see Nazareth last month....and they still rock!) but I don`t think the Roxy tickets for the Atlanta show were *that* far out of line compared to current shows. (Or maybe I justify it as Roxy was a special case.) Anyway, had I known there were going to be so many scalpers at the Atlanta show I could have stuck around until show time and probably picked up a ticket for next to nothing. There were literally dozens of them with fists full the tickets struggling just to get face value (as I passed by) and I`m sure they went far below face value the closer to show time it got. Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:01:08 +1000 From: "Gunther Wandtke" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hurrah! In Australia the first show was played in Brisbane and from what I heard the advertizing was really poor. They had so many tickets left over that they sold them half price for the last 2 days. That would have ment a price of about 15 Pound or US$20 ! In Sydney and Melbourne prices were also dropped by 20 Aussie dollars for the final days, but at least Sydney had a pretty full house of about 10 000. Prices were quite average anyway. Maybe those local differences rather reflect on the local tour promoters rather then what the group does or not does. I suppose the band has a fixed guaranteed amount of income per show that has nothing to do with how many people turn up? There were also radio and TV gingles here about the show and they made the front page of the local weekly entertainment guide of the biggest local paper. Gunter ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:23:45 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] off topic: King Crimson GA - General Admission for $50 a pop???? Sounds forgettable to me! FWIW - my local venue for this Crismo tour (Lisner Auditorium) isn't even on sale yet! (Tho its a great hall - saw Roxy there twice in the 70s!) -= )-(eather =- R. Jackson wrote: > BTW, lookie what went on sale this morning. ;-) > > -Rob > > We have received your order for 2 tickets to: > KING CRIMSON and JOHN PAUL JONES > WARFIELD > Wednesday, Nov 14 2001 8:00PM > Seat Location (SECTION FLOOR, GA ) > Total Charge $98.10 > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trader Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/my-boots.html >-------------------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:26:55 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New DVD Well, they filmed the final Hammersmith show specifically for a video/DVD release... SimonG >>> "David Gilmour" 10/21 12:12 pm >>> When will the new DVD be released and is it 100% certain that a new DVD will be released at all ? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:29:05 +0000 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: SOTW: In Every Dream Home A Heartache - ---------- >Von: "Guy Lawley" >An: >Betreff: RE: [AVALON] Re: SOTW: In Every Dream Home A Heartache >Datum: Son, 21. Okt 2001 12:31 Uhr > >Christian, you sum up my feelings about IEDHAH very well, with one proviso; >it sums up what Roxy Mark 1 were about, but Ferry and the band moved on, of >course. > I agree with you, Guy. Now it would be interesting which song to choose were one to play a single track to sort of sum up Roxy Mk II! >I remember when I was 16 or 17, 1974 or 75, trying to explain to a member of >the older generation why I liked Roxy. His position was that pop music had >nothing at all to offer, and us young folk ought to be getting into "proper" >music (i.e. classical/opera). > >I told him I liked Ferry's lyrics because they had "social comment". I >wanted to explain what IEDHAH said to me about the alienation, and >materialism of modern life. But I didn't have the vocabulary (and anyway I >was a little bit drunk!). So I gave up and told him I couldn't explain what >I meant. He chalked this up as a great victory for his point of view; "You >young people can never justify your claims for pop lyrics" etc.. I was left >feeling stupid and bitter, but I knew I was right! > >Guy The song seems to have a similar meaning to me as well! I, at any rate, would assume Ferry was more concentrating on a personal relationship and alienation here, as he does not seem to be very political (looking at his rare political statements, it's probably better that way), but the good dialectic materialist (though I am not even a bad one, ha, ha) can always argue: "Well, the alienation of society reflects itself in the personal relationships of the individual." Etc. But that's supposedly not the first thing to spring to mind when one is drunk (I never was, so I don't know...)! I hope you hit the old idiot in the face at least! Just joking... Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:29:16 +0000 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" SGIYE is, to me, Ferry's best cover version and one of his all-time best songs. The interpretation is close to perfection. He sounds so cool that you can almost HEAR the white tuxedo. The song works on two levels, IMHO: the ironic, slightly over-the-top crocodile tears level as well as the genuinely heartbreaking world-weariness lost love level. Ferry is the only singer I know who can give this unique ambiguous feeling. I have heard a few other versions of the song, but Ferry's I liked the most - - by far! The piano intro is like a trademark, and Roxy seem to have used it during the "solos" section of Re-make/Re-model on their Siren tour. Of all solo songs, this is the one I listen to most often. And besides, it's both Hugh Heffner's and Richard Roundtree's favourite Ferry song, because of the line "So I SHAFT them and I gaily laughed"... oh, it's "chaffed"?? OK, I know it was a primitive joke... Christian - ---------- >Von: Colleen Matan >An: avalon@smoe.org >Betreff: [AVALON] SOTW: "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" >Datum: Son, 21. Okt 2001 17:03 Uhr > >This seems as good a time as any to open the can of worms that is >covers. The song of the what/whenever is "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" from >_Another Time, Another Place_. > >As before the discussion is open to anything related to the song, and >these are only suggestions: > > love it? hate it? > lyrics/music > it changed my life > live vs. studio version(s) (if applicable) > the video (if any) > that reminds me... > > >Smoke Gets In Your Eyes (Kern, Harbach) > >They asked me how I knew >My true love was true >I of course replied >Something here inside >Cannot be denied > >They said someday you'll find >All who love are blind >When your heart's on fire, >You must realize >Smoke gets in your eyes > >So I chaffed them as I gaily laughed >To think they could doubt my love >Yet today my love has flown away >I am without my love > >Now laughing friends deride >Tears I cannot hide >So I smile and say >When a lovely flame dies >Smoke gets in your eyes > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:28:23 +0100 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re : Roxy connections >Similarly, for the connection, I bought the 'Hazell' TV theme, featuring the great man Mackay too. So, 'Bungalow Love' by Rik Kenton, or 'Little Lost and Innocent' by Milk n' Cookies, featuring Sal Maida, anyone ? That's spooky Reecey. I was talking to Sal Maida just last week. He lives in New York now and came to see Roxy play at Madison Square Garden and thought they were fabulous. Couldn't draw him on Zev though (that's professional bassists for you!). He has been very busy as a session bassist in the years since Roxy, Sparks and Milk'n'Cookies and has recorded with Robert Calvert, Cherie Currie, Gary Private, Golden Carillo and more recently features on Bob Hillman's album Playing God. Anyone here heard it or bought it. Ivor? Chris? I met Sal years ago ('73 I think it was) and he was one of my favourite Roxy touring bassists. Anyone have any preferences? I know my gay friends always plump for Gary Tibbs (but I don't think it had anything to do with his bass playing technique). Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:31:02 +0100 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] New DVD According to Bill Mac over at Manzanera.com the DVD and CD are expected to be released early next year. But he noted that Phil has seen the concert and backstage footage and that there is a lot of work to be done yet. - -----Original Message----- From: Simon Galloway [mailto:SIMONG@jazzfm.com] Sent: 22 October 2001 12:27 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] New DVD Well, they filmed the final Hammersmith show specifically for a video/DVD release... SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:35:08 +0100 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Viva ! Bryan also went for the 'Eskimos and Glaswegie' line, but only once (of the 3 Glasgow Gigs) in Oct 74 on the Country Life Tour - but have never heard of any other location he did the lyric change. Anyone ? Not forgetting, of course, that when Bry sang Eskimos and Geordies at Newcastle, Andy usually played the Blaydon Races in Remake-Remodel (but sadly not this tour round). ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:40:24 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" > love it? hate it? A marvellous song, and Bryan's version is fab, but I will always associate this song with the Platters, certainly the definitive version for me, although there's hundreds more out there. > live vs. studio version(s) (if applicable) Ah yes, Golders Green Hippodrome, December 1999. This song was quite early in the set during the ATGB tour, and was the first real piece of Ferry nostalgia in the show. The Bryan Ferry Big Band performed a really powerful version. Although it was based on the studio arrangement, the live version on that tour outstripped it. That was the first neck tingling moment of that night... > the video (if any) Well, there's the performance from the Twiggy show, a clunky re-recording with the BBC orchestra (a bit of which was redubbed with the studio version and use on Total Recall). SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:27:57 +0100 From: "Nigel Hollis" Subject: [AVALON] Just Like You There is always plenty of discussion on list about the old familiar Roxy favourites, but no-one ever seems to mention Just Like You. This surely is one of Roxy`s little gems. Squeezed between Street Life and Amazona the song always seems to get overlooked, and in my opinion, is the best ballad Ferry ever wrote for Roxy. The lyrics being much more "open" than other songs on the album, are still very enticing and extremely well written. It is this song that for me just gives Stranded that extra sparkle and it is why I regard the album as their finest overall (just). (This takes into consideration my lack of appreciation for Psalm) I thought that JLY could have fitted in well on the ATGB tour. What are other opinions? Incidently, have Roxy ever played it live? Regards to all, Nigel Incidently, have Roxy ever played it live ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:23:59 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Just Like You Agreed, top song. I'm reliably informed that it WAS rehearsed for the recent tour (along with Bogus Man and Beauty Queen) but Ferry was unsure about performing it. I don't know of any live performances though, probably the only song from Stranded not to have been performed live at some point. SimonG >>> "Nigel Hollis" 10/22 2:27 pm >>> There is always plenty of discussion on list about the old familiar Roxy favourites, but no-one ever seems to mention Just Like You. This surely is one of Roxy`s little gems. Squeezed between Street Life and Amazona the song always seems to get overlooked, and in my opinion, is the best ballad Ferry ever wrote for Roxy.... ...Incidently, have Roxy ever played it live? Regards to all, Nigel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:50:14 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" Christian wrote: "The song works on two levels, IMHO: the ironic, slightly over-the-top crocodile tears level as well as the genuinely heartbreaking world-weariness lost love level. Ferry is the only singer I know who can give this unique ambiguous feeling." I totally agree with the above! Perhaps it is exactly that - this seemingly honest quality expressed in much of Mr. Ferry's work - that 'unique ambiguous feeling', that is so keenly attractive to the listener. This perceived ambiguity allows each listener to conjure their own interpretation, a readily customized mode of feeling that enhances their listening pleasure as each song becomes personalized. I frequently sense an intrigue when attempting to assess the 'meaning or mood' that BF is/was trying to convey. The 'correctness' of each individual's interpretation is irrelevant due to this 'unique ambiguous feeling'. Perhaps I am off mark, but isn't effective art personally engaging and provocative? Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:55:44 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Just Like You In a message dated 10/22/01 8:27:40 AM, SIMONG@jazzfm.com writes: << Agreed, top song. I'm reliably informed that it WAS rehearsed for the recent tour (along with Bogus Man and Beauty Queen) but Ferry was unsure about performing it. >> Does anybody know what other songs were rehearsed and scrapped? Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:04:35 +0100 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Just Like You Apparently they started with 100 songs (although I find that very hard to believe!) Just Like You seemed to be the closest one to make it into the set but fell at the last hurdle. TGPT was hoping for The Bogus Man but that too came close but not close enough. And it became a running gag to request Beauty Queen from every group member at every opportunity. It was/wasn't rehearsed depending on who you spoke to! We asked about Same Old Scene and the higher registered songs didn't make it not because we assumed Mr F's upper reaches couldn't be reached (an urban myth) but because he wasn't confident enough to "go for it" every night. Bless him. Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: AMeyersLD@aol.com [mailto:AMeyersLD@aol.com] Sent: 22 October 2001 14:56 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Just Like You In a message dated 10/22/01 8:27:40 AM, SIMONG@jazzfm.com writes: << Agreed, top song. I'm reliably informed that it WAS rehearsed for the recent tour (along with Bogus Man and Beauty Queen) but Ferry was unsure about performing it. >> Does anybody know what other songs were rehearsed and scrapped? Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:09:34 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Fw: [AVALON] Just Like You Agreed again, wonderful simple melody, great lyrics, equal to Beauty Queen & Just Another High, a diamond in the crown that is Stranded. I love it. Terry "O" NP: Stephen Fry reading Harry Potter, I know I should grow up. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Galloway To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Just Like You > Agreed, top song. I'm reliably informed that it WAS rehearsed for the recent tour (along with Bogus Man and Beauty Queen) but Ferry was unsure about performing it. I don't know of any live performances though, probably the only song from Stranded not to have been performed live at some point. > > SimonG > > >>> "Nigel Hollis" 10/22 2:27 pm >>> > There is always plenty of discussion on list about the old familiar Roxy > favourites, but no-one ever seems to mention Just Like You. This surely is one > of Roxy`s little gems. Squeezed between Street Life and Amazona the song > always seems to get overlooked, and in my opinion, is the best ballad Ferry > ever wrote for Roxy.... > > ...Incidently, have Roxy ever played it live? > > Regards to all, > > Nigel > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 00:30:32 +1000 From: "notdixon" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Boots - Australian branch I tried posting this before, but apparantly it didn't work. I'll try again. Apologies if some of you have already seen this: Hello there everyone! Yup, they finally arrived in the mail! With major major thanks to Gene in the USA, I'm pleased to be able to offer to the Australasian part of the group the TMOQ collection. The discs are as follows: Taking Refuge In Pleasure - 2 cds - 31/5/74 Baltimore, USA - Audience recording Tracks - Intro/ Street Life/ Pajamarama / Mother Of Pearl / Amazona/ Chance Meeting / Virginia Plain / Song For Europe / Grey Lagoons / Ladytron / Serenade / If There Is Something / Editions Of You / Re- make, Re-model / Do The Strand / Bonus track - For Your Pleasure+Diamondhead (Gothenburg 76) Audience recording that's a little swooshy at first, but quite enjoyable - B- Berlin Beauty Queens - 2cds - audience recording - Berlin Nov 74 Tracks - Prairie rose/ Beauty Queen /Mother Of Pearl / Out Of The Blue / Song For Europe / 3&9 / If It Takes All Night/ In Every Dream Home A Heartache / If There Is Something / All I Want Is You / Street Life / Virginia Plain / Editions Of You / Re-make, Re-model / Do The Strand/ Bonus tracks - Could It Happen To Me/ Casanova - ? location Audience recording - Nice and raw - not bad for the age - B Once Upon A Really Good Time - 1cd - 3 sources: Rainbow Theatre April 1st 1973 - Do The Strand/ Gray Lagoons/ Beauty Queen/The Bogus Man/ Ladytron/In Every Dreamhome A Heartache Audience recording - bit rough and murky at first, but it picks up a bit after a while, and it's a nice early performance. - C+/B- 1975 Midnight Special performance - Out Of The Blue/ The thrill Of It All /A Really Good Time - TV Broadcast - Taken from a tape that could be a generation or two down, but still quite nice. A-/B+ Austin, Texas - 1976 - Prairie Rose - Audience B Other Worldly Cool - Sheffield, U.K. 28/3/73 - Audience -1cd Tracks - Do The Strand/ Gray Lagoons/Beauty Queen/ Bogus Man/Ladytron/ In Every Dreamhome A Heartache/If there is Something/ Editions Of You/ Re-make, Re-model/ Pajamarama/ Bomus track - Mother Of pearl (Air Studios 73) Hmmm...rough sound this one. Distant, murky a bit distorted, and extremely mono. Obviously from a high generation copy of an old tape. Stll, it's a great early performance from the band, so I'd shy away from this one if you're an Audiophile, but otherwise it's good for historical value.Besides, it's Roxy! The bonus track makes it worthwhile, with a nice rehearsal run-through in the studio of Mother Of Pearl. A few digital clicks in this one, but well worth having for this track. - C- (Bonus B+) Downs 'Outh - 2cds - Atlanta 26/7/01 Audience Tracks - Re-make, Re-model/ Street Life / Ladytron / While My heart Is Still Beating / Out Of the Blue / A Song For Europe/ My Only Love / In Every Dreamhome A Heartache / Oh Yeah / Both Ends Burning / Tara/ Avalon/ Dance Away / Jealous Guy / Editions Of You / Love Is The Drug / Do The Strand / For Your Pleasure Obviously the best sounding boot from this lot, it's a nice audience recording from the current tour. A I don't mean to be too harsh on these recording because, although they might seem a bit rough compared to today's minidisc digital audience recordings, they are from the 70s and are recorded and paseed around with 70s technology. For the old-timers on this list, remember the sound of the old vinyl boots? Sure they were a little murky at times, but they were just magic, because they were rare recordings of a treasured group at it's peak. The bottom line is: it's ROXY!!!!! I'm currently enjoying the hell out of "Taking Refuge In Pleasure"! Does anyone else out there who might have heard these care to comment on them? Other folks' opinions on these would be greatly welcomed! I like 'em! If anyone's interested, I've also got the Minneapolis show from the current tour. 2 cds, nice audience recording, tracks mostly as Atlanta above (from memory..) (No MOP :-( ) Okay, if anyone out there in Australasia wants any of these, then please email me at notdixon@ihug.com.au . Trade lists welcome. No Roxy to swap? I'm after other bands as well. No burner, or nothing at all to trade? Contact me anyway, and we can do a B&P (blanks and postage) deal. We WILL work out something! Basically, anyone who wants these will receive them!!!!! This offer is limited to Australasian folks, as there are other distributers in the rest of the world (check on Avalon for your nearest) and because I can't afford much postage in the next week or two, as I seem to be spending all my money on blank discs at the moment :-) Oh, and art will be supplied for the TMOQ discs (haven't done the Minneapolis one yet...) Whew, sorry for the long email folks, but this seemed important. Now, I have to listen to each disc closely!! It's gonna be a nice day. Thanks - Doug ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:25:00 -0700 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] off topic: King Crimson Last year they played the Fillmore for $24. I know the Warfield costs a lot more to book, so that may be part of it. They were also touring with no support act last year, so having John Paul Jones along may be part of it, too. KC just finished up a sold out tour opening for Tool, too, so they may be expecting more of a turnout. The thing is, even though the Fillmore only holds half as many people as the Warfield, they played three nights there last time. They're only doing one night this time around. It's a pity. I'd much rather catch a three-nighter. You get so much more out of a three-night stand with a band that improvises. Wow, that was a lengthy reply for a one-line comment. Sorry. ;-) - -Rob At 07:23 AM 10/22/2001 -0400, you wrote: > GA - General Admission for $50 a pop???? > >Sounds forgettable to me! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:18:57 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Just Like You - ----- Original Message ----- From: Fiske, Jocelyn To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:04 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Just Like You It was/wasn't rehearsed depending on who you spoke to! Now the tour is over I can see fact & fiction becoming a little blurred, those of us that attended the final night of Hammersmith should hang on to our ticket stub, as I'm sure in a couple of years there will be about 10,000 people claiming to have been there!. Now where did I put that stub? Terry "O" (with tongue in cheek) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:25:24 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Just Like You Judging by the Avalonians all around me in the front row, most of us will be in the video. I think you can consider that conclusive proof of attendance. Chris (also tongue in cheek) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrypaulrigz8c" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Just Like You > Now the tour is over I can see fact & fiction becoming a little blurred, > those of us that attended the final night of Hammersmith should hang on to > our ticket stub, as I'm sure in a couple of years there will be about 10,000 > people claiming to have been there!. > > Now where did I put that stub? > > Terry "O" (with tongue in cheek) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:37:33 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Fw: [AVALON] Just Like You I've just paid a lot of money to the film crew to have myself super-imposed just behind Simon Gs left shoulder so theres my proof!!! I'll probanly look like the guy in the beer ads (UK joke folks), you know the cardboard cut-out. Terry "O" PS: Don't tell anyone. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Turner To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Just Like You > Judging by the Avalonians all around me in the front row, most of us will be > in the video. I think you can consider that conclusive proof of attendance. > > Chris (also tongue in cheek) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "terrypaulrigz8c" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:18 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Just Like You > > > > Now the tour is over I can see fact & fiction becoming a little blurred, > > those of us that attended the final night of Hammersmith should hang on to > > our ticket stub, as I'm sure in a couple of years there will be about > 10,000 > > people claiming to have been there!. > > > > Now where did I put that stub? > > > > Terry "O" (with tongue in cheek) > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #493 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest