From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #437 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, September 12 2001 Volume 06 : Number 437 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Thoughts on a tragic day ["Paul Bodine" ] [AVALON]List members ok? [AMeyersLD@aol.com] [AVALON] A Sad tragic day in America ["James Anderson" ] [AVALON] Some comments from a Washingtonian ["Linda Epstein" ] Re: [AVALON] Fwd: off topic? ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON]List members ok? ["M. Taylor" ] [AVALON] Today's Events [InterEireann@aol.com] [AVALON] New York & Washington ["Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" ] Re: [AVALON] Day of infamy [EJDalseme@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Thoughts on a tragic day ["Sally-Ann Barbera" ] Re: [AVALON] Thoughts on a tragic day [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] 9/11/01 A day that will live in greater infamy.... [Avalon8] [AVALON] Special to US List members ["Eman 97" ] [AVALON] Such a Tragedy [jmdillon@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] Bad Bad Stuff ["Gina" ] [AVALON] Today's Tragedies [Maggie Curran ] RE: [AVALON] Such a Tragedy ["Gregory A. Koetting" ] [AVALON] Tomorrow [KRNCHSE@aol.com] [AVALON] Not on topic ["PeteK" ] [AVALON] Re: Tragedy [MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.)] Re: [AVALON] Not on topic [InterEireann@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Not on topic ["Sally-Ann Barbera" ] [AVALON] Tragedy [OBrienFerry@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:09:37 -0500 From: "Paul Bodine" Subject: [AVALON] Thoughts on a tragic day > We have witnessed live on TV our generation's Pearl >Harbour. I agree. One difference: the attack at Pearl Harbor, however dastardly, was against a military installation on a distant U.S. territory. The worst part of today's attack was against innocent civilians in what for many people around the world probably *is* the U.S. One similarity hopefully will be that Admiral Yamamoto's words after Pearl Harbor will also apply here: "I fear all we have done is awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:14:27 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: [AVALON]List members ok? I have spent the last hour finding freinds/family on the east coast. Do we know if all our brothers and sisters on the list in DC and NYC are okay? Please let us all know... Our prayers are with you. Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:32:50 -0500 From: "James Anderson" Subject: [AVALON] A Sad tragic day in America My thoughts and prayers to Avalonians in New York, Boston, and other cities who might have had families or friends lost or hurt today. It is totally surreal. I still can't phantom how or why it all happened. In Chicago as I'm sure all around the world there is a sense of dread and sadness. Everyone here is in shock. I went to church after I left work and cried. I lost my mother this January and when I heard and saw the destruction from New York, it hit me very deeply. It bought it all back. It also made me think of my recent trip to Holland in August. Lots of security leaving and coming. I had no problem with it and never will take it for granted. I hope all find some peace and solace in the days ahead. I am playing Psalm,Imagine, and My Sweet Lord in the background. Jas Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:24:11 -0400 From: "Linda Epstein" Subject: [AVALON] Some comments from a Washingtonian I am here. I am sitting in my office. I hope you don't think me rude or gorey or whatever the word is at this moment, but this is my job and I wouldn't trade for where I am at right now for anything. My mother works at the State Dept. She finally made it home. I made it into work just as they were shutting down the Pentagon metro station. I had seen the second plane crash into the World Trade Center as I left the house and I raced into the office. As I made it into my building, mind you, it is the National Press Building, 2 blocks from the White House, security in this building were trying to ferry people out of the place. I jumped on the elevator and made it upstairs. There's no way they can evacuate this whole building- this is what we do. We are the press here. The first words my boss said to me were, "If you feel uncomfortable here you can leave." Not on your life. I have been receiving photos from all over the country on this disgusting event. We have photographers here who got to the Pentagon and got photos. I am just now receiving the photos from the WTC. Papers are sending their own reaction photos to me and I am sending them out onto the wire (http://www.krtdirect.com/photos/preview/live.htm) What really grinds me to a halt is I got a phone call from a friend of mine who works at the New York Daily News. How he got to calling me, I don't know but he told me they put him near a free phone. He gave his cameras to a co-worker as he was being taken away. He was 100 yds from the Trade Center and was caught in the second blast. It threw him to the ground and under a truck or car. Debris was everywhere, including his mouth. He tried to move his leg and realized something was wrong. 4 paramedics moved him to a nearby deli where they were hit by a third blast. He was taken to Bayonne Hospital- his right leg is shattered, but he is alive. And he called me and gave me his description. To hear about this first hand is mind boggling. I am a journalist. This is what I do for a living. I have to see the horrid with the good. Thank you to all of you UK-ers and non-Americans who are offering support. Whether we are living this ourselves, or watching it on tv, living in NY, DC or anywhere in this county, all of us Americans are in shock. They are likening this to when our parents went through Pearl Harbor. Thanks you for your kind words, fellow Avalonians. It is nice to read while I am here looking at photos of mass destruction. AS I write this to you, we received a photo from my friend of the second tower being hit by the plane. This is unbelieveable. - -- Linda D. Epstein Photo Editor Knight Ridder/Tribune Photo Service lepstein@krtinfo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: 11 Sep 2001 20:45:06 -0000 From: roxylia@freemail.it () Subject: Re: [AVALON] PLANE CRASH/Bad Bad Stuff At 10.38 11/09/01 -0700, Aleks Kocan wrote: >What has happened today has shocked us all, so I'm >sorry Gene, but I think that the rest of the U.K Aleks, why not add "the rest of Europe". I've been trying to write private emails to our US friends, but US servers are down. Even if they cannot read the mail, I want to tell Colleen and the others that I was shaking and crying on my way home too. The only thing we can do is pray and hope. Cecilia in Venice, Italy - ----------------------------------------------------- messaggio inviato con Freemail by superEva http://www.supereva.it - ----------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:05:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Louis Simone Subject: [AVALON] Fwd: off topic? tmoq wrote: From: "tmoq" To: Subject: Re: [Off List] off topic? Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:26:20 -0400 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis Simone" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:57 PM Subject: [AVALON] off topic? > An earlier post mentioned that this terrorist tragedy was "off topic", and please stay on Roxy Music discussion. > The person who posted that should really be ashamed of themselves. FUCK YOU!!! Gene...I warned you! This post was sent to me from your highly respected "Gene"... I knew this guy was...well, you be the judge. ART LIED Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:14:02 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fwd: off topic? Louis We really don't need this pathetic point scoring ever, least of all now. Lay off. David-- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:36:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fwd: off topic? On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Louis Simone wrote: > > An earlier post mentioned that this terrorist tragedy was "off topic", and > please stay on Roxy Music discussion. > > The person who posted that should really be ashamed of themselves. > > FUCK YOU!!! > > Gene...I warned you! > > > > This post was sent to me from your highly respected "Gene"... > > I knew this guy was...well, you be the judge. > > ART LIED > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:42:24 +0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: Re: [AVALON]List members ok? >Do we know if all our brothers and sisters on the list in DC and NYC are >okay? >Please let us all know... Our prayers are with you. Thankfully, I was nowhere near the city. I started working for my former job part-time and wasn't scheduled to go in today. Even though they're located in Midtown, I can't imagine trying to get home. Friends and family are ok. My boyfriend's family lives in the DC area. His brother-in-law has an office near the Pentagon and felt and heard the explosion. His niece goes to school in the neighborhood of the CIA and the whole area was shut down. An online friend from France is visiting NYC this week. She changed her mind about going to WTC this morning. Hopefully, we'll be able to meet tomorrow. This is a horrible nightmare.... M _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:53:04 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Today's Events I watched out of my office window facing south down Manhattan, minutes after the second explosion ( one of my collegues saw the first plane fly by our building ). Our building was evacuated and I went home, watching the towers collapse on tv. I cried. I do not know how to begin to comprehend what I have watched today.It is so terrrible, can it ever be the same here again ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:09:04 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: [AVALON] New York & Washington What can I say on other than our thoughts and prayers are with our fellow Avalonians and their Families in the US. Love and best wishes. Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:23:55 +0100 From: "Jane Collard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New York & Washington Can I just add another message of support from a UK list member? I still cannot comprehend the pictures that I have now seen over and over again on TV this evening. And as well as NY and Washington, let us not forget those on the West Coast - where I believe the planes were originally headed - who have also lost loved ones. The firm that I work for in the UK had offices in the WTC. We still await news of our New York colleagues. With best wishes Jane - ----- Original Message ----- From: Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:09 PM Subject: [AVALON] New York & Washington > What can I say on other than our thoughts and prayers are with our fellow > Avalonians and their Families in the US. > > Love and best wishes. > > Chris > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:32:37 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] 9/11/01 A day that will live in greater infamy.... As an American who has traveled a good bit of the world, I would like to thank all those around the world on this list for your kind words and supportive thoughts. These acts of insane terrorism effect all of our lives, and make the world smaller, in an awful way. I think at this time, and even on this list, it is a time for each of us to consider practicing more tolerant moods, and consider reducing the level of personal conflict (via rudeness and attacking comments) at all times...in our lives. Maybe encourage ourselves, and our loved ones, even our friends, to practice greater tolerance and less anger at times. These type of events, could happen to any of us....in many places in the world, as we have learned today. If ever there was a day to being nicer to each other, today ought to be one. (Sorry if that was preachy, but that is some of my thoughts on the day). e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:35:23 EDT From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON]List members ok? Hi Andrew and all those concerned. So far I am holding my own here. :-) eileen in Kew Gardens, NY ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:56:33 +0100 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New York & Washington Can I just add another heartfelt message of support to all those affected by these terrible events that have unfolded today at both NT & Washington. Although I didn't get a chance to visit NY during the recent tour, my wife and I did get married there in the beginning of April so your city, and its people, hold a special place in our hearts. I have just e-mailed our wedding coordinator (and since friend) who has a wedding "sight" at the top of the WTC. I hope she is O.K. Take care of yourselves and your loved ones through the difficult times ahead. Neil Jones. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Collard To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] New York & Washington > Can I just add another message of support from a UK list member? I still > cannot comprehend the pictures that I have now seen over and over again on > TV this evening. And as well as NY and Washington, let us not forget those > on the West Coast - where I believe the planes were originally headed - who > have also lost loved ones. > > The firm that I work for in the UK had offices in the WTC. We still await > news of our New York colleagues. > > With best wishes > Jane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:09 PM > Subject: [AVALON] New York & Washington > > > > What can I say on other than our thoughts and prayers are with our fellow > > Avalonians and their Families in the US. > > > > Love and best wishes. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:12:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Scotty Subject: [AVALON] Day of infamy To all of our American Avalonian friends - please be assured that our thoughts are with you on this day of infamy. A dreadful day indeed..... Our best wishes and support go out to you. Scotty (Australia) Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:27:03 EDT From: EJDalseme@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Day of infamy It's after midnight, I am still watching the news, the utter shock is wearing off but the enormity of the disaster is beginning to sink in. Email is wonderful and I have been able to contact a dear friend in Manhattan, who is safe, but two of his friends are missing. I echo all the Avalonians who have sent their love and prayers, and I add my voice to theirs. Emma ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:48:41 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Thoughts on a tragic day Australia woke up to this news just a couple of hours ago. Stunned is all I can say. My thoughts go to all in the US. A dark day indeed. - -----Original Message----- From: Victor Hastings To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 4:55 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Thoughts on a tragic day >Today is a dark day. > >I trust that Gene's comments about off-topic posts were intended to >discourage political diatribes and not expressions of concern and support. >Nobody knows how many people have died today, but it's possible -- even >probable -- that the death toll is in the thousands. So a few good wishes >on the list can't hurt. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel Atterbom" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:50 PM >Subject: [AVALON] Thoughts on a tragic day > > >> We have witnessed live on TV our generation's Pearl Harbour. My feelings >> goes to Colleen and those Avalonians that are affected. >> >> (And I am sorry if this is off-topic but dispite the fact that I have only >> met two Avalonians face to face I consider you my e-mail friends.) >> >> NP The silence of respect and rememberence >> >> Daniel >> >> >> >___________________________________________________________________________ >> The subliminable footer says: >> To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >> unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:32:26 +0930 From: "Glen Lehman" Subject: [AVALON] hope and pray To our US friends , I do hope that all our US friends are coping well on this most terrible of days. I have so many friends in New York and Washington that this resonates deeply. Emails are slowly coming through, thank God. I have enjoyed the list for many years and one thing I have learnt is that despite our differences , the folk on the list share a concern for the common good --- I just hope and pray that the mutual love that we all share for Bryan Ferry could and can shape/guide all our relationships. I cannot think of a more "on-topic" issue of concern. yours sincerely Dr Glen Lehman University of South Australia ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:44:57 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Thoughts on a tragic day Agreed. Heartfelt thoughts to all involved. In light of these events it seems trivial to talk of anything else. Jonathan In a message dated 11/09/01 19:57:48 GMT Daylight Time, vhastings@cfl.rr.com writes: > Today is a dark day. > > I trust that Gene's comments about off-topic posts were intended to > discourage political diatribes and not expressions of concern and support. > Nobody knows how many people have died today, but it's possible -- even > probable -- that the death toll is in the thousands. So a few good wishes > on the list can't hurt. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:02:35 EDT From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] 9/11/01 A day that will live in greater infamy.... In a message dated 9/11/01 6:34:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eman97@hotmail.com writes: > If ever there was a day to being nicer to each other, today ought to be one. > AMEN Eileen in Kew Gardens ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:10:54 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Special to US List members US Listees: I am starting a movement to donate our Tax Rebate Checks to NY/DC disaster relief efforts. Just trying to raise an idea here. As the appropriate information comes in from US media, we can choose to donate our tax rebate checks to appropriate organizations. I have seen the Red Cross mentioned... Anyone else who sees the info for direct efforts for victims/victims families, please feel free to send email. I hope that reaching a few hundred Americans via this list will help spread the word; we can all forward the idea to our "CC" lists. Thanks for the venue, peace. e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:22:35 -0400 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: [AVALON] Such a Tragedy Shocked and stunned into total disbelief is all I can say. I spent most of the morning, early afternoon and this evening trying to reach relatives and loved ones in New York City. Getting through has been all but impossible. We have lost so many today and so much. Innocent men and women whose lives were taken from us as well as the hundreds of brave souls who had come to their rescue. I feel gutted, numb and empty inside. My thoughts and prayers can only wander to those tortured souls who now are hanging by a phone, waiting for it to ring or are hoping beyond hope that their loved one will still eventually walk through the front door. Whether in human nature, it is our strength or weakness, today I personally felt compelled to reach those whom I hold dear and clearly tell them so. To our friends and brethren across the ocean and around the world, some of whom I recently had the great pleasure to meet, thank you sincerely for reaching out to us as you have at this dark time with your words of comfort and support. They mean more to us than you know. Finally: To those who may rile and feel this is off topic, that can not be farther from the truth. It has always been our human nature and love of life that has brought us together as a group. That is truer now more than ever. All the Best & God Bless John Dillon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:32:59 -0400 From: "Gina" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bad Bad Stuff > All lines into America are down, it's impossible to get through. > > Is everyone I know in NY, Washington and Pittsburgh safe? > > Please e-mail off list. I just wanted to let you know that I'm safe and sound (in case anyone was worried). I'm just now reading all 250 e-mails I received today. (I don't get my list mail at work.) I just recently started working in Rockville, MD, at Lockheed Martin, on a contract supporting Air Traffic Control for the FAA. I was thanking my lucky stars today that I didn't have to take a job at the Pentagon. When I drove into work this morning, all I'd heard was that a plane had flown into one of the WTC buildings. I figured it was a small plane, and probably might have done some damage. I really wasn't prepared for what enfolded as the day wore on. We all kept working until the end of the day, except the folks who had to go home and collect their children (schools were closed down all over the metro area). LM didn't see any reason to close down, being that it wasn't in a government facility, and reasonably far from the epicenter of the activity. We were, however, among the first to hear that the FAA had grounded all flights. John, formerly my significant other, now my hubby, was at work, in Arlington. He works for Qwest Communications. They evacuated. I understand that ALL of the office buildings in the immediate area were told to evacuate. Among rumors of an additional plane that was hi-jacked and heading for DC, John called me on his cell phone to tell me he was standing on top of the parking garage, and could see the smoke billowing from the Pentagon from that vantage point. He also told me about the F-16 fighter jet that was making the rounds. I suddenly freaked and told him to get the hell out of there. He said he couldn't go anywhere because the streets were jammed w/ traffic. I told him to head out anyway. I didn't want him to wait around for plane #4, or whatever might transpire should the plane reach DC. It was a frightening day. God only knows where we're going from here, and this is even more frightening. gina (Germantown, MD) oooh, a military helicopter just flew over our heads. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:45:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Maggie Curran Subject: [AVALON] Today's Tragedies Sincere appreciation to everyone who has written messages of support and concern. There is no other topic of interest for most of us in USA today. It is comforting to hear from friends in UK and Europe and Australia. My prayers go out for those in New York, Boston and Washington. Let us hope for a better tomorrow. Maggie _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:57:08 -0400 From: "Gregory A. Koetting" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Such a Tragedy There are no human words to describe the horror that happened today. My prayers are with those who are suffering. I am wondering what contribution I can make to help out.. Any suggestions, please let me know... greggie/atlanta - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of jmdillon@mindspring.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:23 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Such a Tragedy Shocked and stunned into total disbelief is all I can say. I spent most of the morning, early afternoon and this evening trying to reach relatives and loved ones in New York City. Getting through has been all but impossible. We have lost so many today and so much. Innocent men and women whose lives were taken from us as well as the hundreds of brave souls who had come to their rescue. I feel gutted, numb and empty inside. My thoughts and prayers can only wander to those tortured souls who now are hanging by a phone, waiting for it to ring or are hoping beyond hope that their loved one will still eventually walk through the front door. Whether in human nature, it is our strength or weakness, today I personally felt compelled to reach those whom I hold dear and clearly tell them so. To our friends and brethren across the ocean and around the world, some of whom I recently had the great pleasure to meet, thank you sincerely for reaching out to us as you have at this dark time with your words of comfort and support. They mean more to us than you know. Finally: To those who may rile and feel this is off topic, that can not be farther from the truth. It has always been our human nature and love of life that has brought us together as a group. That is truer now more than ever. All the Best & God Bless John Dillon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:19:10 -0400 From: "Peter Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Such a Tragedy John, I couldn't agree more. This is NOT off topic. We are all in this forum because of a kind of united humanity. And I have been very touched by the reaction of our European brothers and sisters. Pete Seely - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:22 PM Subject: [AVALON] Such a Tragedy > Shocked and stunned into total disbelief is all I can say. > > I spent most of the morning, early afternoon and this evening trying to > reach relatives and loved ones in New York City. > > Getting through has been all but impossible. > We have lost so many today and so much. > Innocent men and women whose lives were taken from us as well as the > hundreds of brave souls who had come to their rescue. > > I feel gutted, numb and empty inside. > My thoughts and prayers can only wander to those tortured souls who now are > hanging by a phone, waiting for it to ring or are hoping beyond hope that > their loved one will still eventually walk through the front door. > Whether in human nature, it is our strength or weakness, today I personally > felt compelled to reach those whom I hold dear and clearly tell them so. > > To our friends and brethren across the ocean and around the world, some of > whom I recently had the great pleasure to meet, thank you sincerely for > reaching out to us as you have at this dark time with your words of comfort > and support. > They mean more to us than you know. > > Finally: To those who may rile and feel this is off topic, that can not be > farther from the truth. It has always been our human nature and love of > life that has brought us together as a group. > > That is truer now more than ever. > > All the Best & God Bless > > John Dillon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:42:27 EDT From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Tomorrow In a message dated 9/12/1 2:39:17 AM, you wrote: <> 11.15pm. I'm off to bed tonight.Today I woke upon a beautiful September morning.The last 15 hours have been filed with fear ,worry,tears,and a sickening feeling in the pit of my stomach,and everyone that I love and care for are safe at home.Thousands of people can not go to sleep tonight,can not go home.They are waiting by a phone,trying to get a line,waiting for news.We can not begin to imagine thier pain. The day has been spent almost impossibly trying to reach colleagues/friends by phone.Thank goodness for the internet.Thanks to you for your humanity, Regards, DM ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:42:07 -0700 From: "PeteK" Subject: [AVALON] Not on topic Politcal discussions of this nature are really not on topic. Why should someone be ashamed for pointing out the obvious. Their are many other forums to express your views. I have my own, they tend to vary from the mainstream. I will keep them to myself because, once you start down this path their is no end to this kind of discussion. Running out of time. NP Bob Dylan Love and Theft ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:00:10 -0500 (CDT) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Tragedy I have spent much of the day, trying to contact friends & relatives who either work at the trade center & or different Airlines. My prayers were answered all are ok. The friend who wks. in the trade center. saw the first plane hit the building & headed out of hers before it was hit. She made it down from the 8th floor. She says she can't talk about what she saw today. Never had she witnessed such horror around her trying to escape the building.---- I am nervous as what next? I feel sick in the pit of my stomach. somewhat leary of closing my eyes to sleep. What we can do now; which my city has already been doing today.-----( give Blood ) There's going to be lots of it needed. Also we have a (relief fund) set up at Chase Bank to help out all these victim's families. This has hit home to many as I've listened over & over to people tell of how they just want to tell their loved one how much they love them.You might never have that second chance. Do so every day & you want have any regrets. I've prayed for all the lives lost today & the families left to cope with their loss & our leaders that they all will find strength to get thru this. Thanks fellow Avalonians we do need your supportive words now & in the days ahead. Today was a shattering experience that shouldn't have happened . Marlana...................................... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:01:09 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Not on topic "..petekstranded"..what in god's name are you talking about? What is political about people expressing horror, disbelief, sorrow , fear, condolences for what happened. These are emotions which express humanity not politics. And yes, please keep your political views to yourself as those, I fear, would be most definitely off topic . ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:56:32 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Not on topic But sometimes Pete, something happens in the world that is bigger than you, bigger than 'the topic'. It's not a political discussion. No one has mentioned politics. No one is expressing a political view. All we are expressing is compassion for our fellow human beings. I don't think anyone cares about 'the topic' right at this very moment. The world has just changed forever Pete. - -----Original Message----- From: PeteK To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 14:43 Subject: [AVALON] Not on topic >Politcal discussions of this nature are really not on topic. Why should >someone be ashamed for pointing out the obvious. Their are many other forums >to express your views. I have my own, they tend to vary from the mainstream. I >will keep them to myself because, once you start down this path their is no >end to this kind of discussion. Running out of time. > >NP Bob Dylan Love and Theft > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:29:19 EDT From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Tragedy I can only add my thoughts and prayers for everyone touched by this tragedy. The better side of this forum has been highlighted the last hours. The community spirit here has brought out the human side to what is obviously more than just a collection of e-mail addresses and black & white text. Regards John O'Brien ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #437 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest