From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #427 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, September 5 2001 Volume 06 : Number 427 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] SOTW: "Casanova" ["Guy Lawley" ] Re: [AVALON] viva roxy music! (finshed)! ["=?iso-8859-1?q?John=20O'Brien?] Re: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] RE: (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" [Inte] Re: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? [David Firmin ] [AVALON] The best line-up [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [ASchulberg@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] The best line-up ["Jankiewicz, Jim" ] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up ["Judy Kaufman" ] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Extras for last UK shows [ASchulberg@aol.com] [AVALON] Berlin Beauty Queens- UK Distribution [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [David Firmin ] [AVALON] re-coop ? ["anotherphotographer" ] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [Richard Evans ] [AVALON] Extras [Richard Evans ] Re: [AVALON] Berlin Beauty Queens- UK Distribution ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] No Sleep 'til Hammersmith [InterEireann@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxy London prices [InterEireann@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] More On Jobson.... ["tmoq" ] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [OBrienFerry@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] The best line-up [Daniel Atterbom ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 09:38:30 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] SOTW: "Casanova" Re: the lines: Casanova, is that your name? Or do you live there? I always felt that the obvious pun on Casa Nova ("new house") was intended, as others have noted. But I also agree that the subtext below is very likely to have been in Ferry's mind too. It gains extra resonance if the song is actually directed at someone else besides the original historic/legendary Casanova. In which case it means not "Are you trying to live up to your own legend?" so much as "Are you trying to live up to someone else's legend?" which is an even more trenchant line. "Do you live there?" also carries a possible meaning of "Is that where your head is at (most or all of the time)?". Which could mean: is that all there is to your life? Are there no more meaningful aspects to it? Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Kamaya.Yates@police.govt.nz Sent: 02 September 2001 05:53 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Casanova" I always thought that this line had more to do with 'Casanova' the facade/image - Casanova was a legend in his own lifetime so did he believe his own hype? It is something that anyone who has had a taste of fame or infamy must go through..(not that I can talk from experience ha ha but I am guessing) so at what point do you start believing in what the public at large think about you? when (or) do you start modifying your behaviour to fit that model?? I guess I am thinking about Ferry's 'old world charm'... Kamaya :) =============================================================== ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:21:53 +0100 (BST) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?John=20O'Brien?=" Subject: Re: [AVALON] viva roxy music! (finshed)! --- Ktwicked@aol.com wrote: > was looking at john obriens site today. was quite > impressed, seems his put > alot of hard work, time and money into it. > The album sections are very detailed and the lists > of the musicians and > credits etc were impressive. > the gallery could do with a few more pics, but the > photos that appear at the > moment are original and interesting. > all around good, interesting site! > katie Thanks for the complimet, the whole site is being re-vamped as we speak and should be ready before I go to Rotterdam next week. There are a few new pictures in the gallery and memorabilia section and there are pictures with most of the Roxy Ferry songs & albums on the songs & albums pages pages. There are around 800 photos/images around the site but not all in the gallery. The new structure of the site should make navigation easier. John O'Brien __________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:29:52 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:19 AM Subject: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? > Welcome to AVALON Peter, > > It's about time we had an active male on here. HUH??? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 13:52:25 +0100 (BST) From: andy.clique@btinternet.com Subject: [AVALON] Hammersmith ticket sales so far Just looked at ticketmaster: 50 pound seats: Monday night downstairs full to row T (one from back) Tuesday night downstairs full to row U (back row) 30 pound seats: back two rows of circle only. Therefore I conclude that they should have charged more. I reckon even if Bryan got 20 pounds per ticket for the 3,000 tickets i.e. 60 grand for a nights work (which he does not get anything like) - he earns and deserves every penny and more. So there! regards Andy Langley ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:39:22 +0100 From: Rosalind Bull Subject: RE: [AVALON] Hammersmith ticket sales so far I've literally just got back from the venue, as I went down there in my lunch hour for someone else, and there are tickets left much further up than T (I was offered row E) but a lot more on the side. I just got tickets in row R fairly centrally for example. I asked the lady who did the transaction how the ticket sales were going and she said "Very well indeed - it's surprised us" So I said is there any chance of another date being added and she said that there was nothing at the moment but the decision is usually taken once the other nights are sold out ... I spent a great deal of the 1980s in the Hammy Odeon and the sight of the glitter ball in the foyer has got my juices going. - -----Original Message----- From: andy.clique@btinternet.com [mailto:andy.clique@btinternet.com] Sent: 04 September 2001 13:52 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Hammersmith ticket sales so far Just looked at ticketmaster: 50 pound seats: Monday night downstairs full to row T (one from back) Tuesday night downstairs full to row U (back row) 30 pound seats: back two rows of circle only. Therefore I conclude that they should have charged more. I reckon even if Bryan got 20 pounds per ticket for the 3,000 tickets i.e. 60 grand for a nights work (which he does not get anything like) - he earns and deserves every penny and more. So there! regards Andy Langley ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:32:43 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hammersmith ticket sales so far Andy, calm down son, you'll be giving yourself a coronary. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 1:52 PM Subject: [AVALON] Hammersmith ticket sales so far > Just looked at ticketmaster: > > 50 pound seats: > Monday night downstairs full to row T (one from back) > Tuesday night downstairs full to row U (back row) > > 30 pound seats: > back two rows of circle only. > > Therefore I conclude that they should have charged more. I reckon even if Bryan got 20 pounds per ticket for the 3,000 tickets i.e. 60 grand for a nights work (which he does not get anything like) - he earns and deserves every penny and more. > > So there! > > regards > > Andy Langley > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 08:07:11 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? "A Song for Europe" rubbish?! "Mother of Pearl" a complete waste of time? Just for my own piece of mind, please let me know what Roxy songs you do like. Thanks, David chris.cassidy@staffordshire.gov.uk> wrote: > I would say A Song for Europe, Mother of Pearl and 'Dreamhome' for starters are a complete waste of time and I do wonder why Roxy ever bothered releasing such rubbish. *** Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:15:34 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? Don't worry David, not everyone gets sarcasm... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Firmin" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? > "A Song for Europe" rubbish?! > > "Mother of Pearl" a complete waste of time? > > Just for my own piece of mind, please let me know what > Roxy songs you do like. > > Thanks, > David ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:17:37 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Website Updates Hi, A few updates on the Avalon website at www.roxytalk.co.uk Firstly in the articles section there are two contributions from our own Tri Tri Fagan - a picture of Lucy and Merlin Ferry from Hello magazine and the transcript of the Bryan Ferry article in August's W Magazine. Secondly, say hello to Dutch contributor Micha Meijer, whose profile has been added to the list. Oh, and Jas has a cool new photo too... Meanwhile at Roxyrama (www.roxyrama.com) further improvements have been made to the bootleg section. Simon Galloway has submitted a series of reviews and detail on all of the vinyl Roxy bootlegs. You can find the under 'releases' then 'bootlegs' and 'vinyl' There's some interesting stuff for anyone looking to collect bootlegs on vinyl, or who wants to know more about their own collection. The CD section will follow soon. Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 08:34:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? Sorry Chris Cassidy, I should have read between the lines. Another feeble attempt at humor on the list. It was so funny, I forgot to laugh. Peter Buckett, please check out this site: http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dfirmin/rmwf.html We Love the Explorers! Thanks, David - --- Chris Turner wrote: > Don't worry David, not everyone gets sarcasm... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Firmin" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:07 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? > > > > "A Song for Europe" rubbish?! > > > > "Mother of Pearl" a complete waste of time? > > > > Just for my own piece of mind, please let me know > what > > Roxy songs you do like. > > > > Thanks, > > David *** Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 13:34:47 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" Sorry, but could not help on " Tara".Paul from Milwaukee.saying it is in the U.K...oops Ireland is not part of U.K, but I always thought that the reference to Tara was to the Celtic myth as the singing of it and the tune is somewhat Celtic in its style ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 10:48:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? I think he meant - it's about time someone had the balls to speak his mind". - --- terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:19 AM > Subject: [AVALON] 1985 and all that jazz?? > > > > Welcome to AVALON Peter, > > > > It's about time we had an active male on here. > > HUH??? > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 11:55:27 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] The best line-up http://pictures.care2.com/view/2/907900492 Anyone disagree? If so, why? Thanks, David *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:09:27 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up That hardly looks like young Eddie J. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:18:27 -0500 From: "Jankiewicz, Jim" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The best line-up Anyone disagree? If so, why? Slightly. Why? No Eno. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 21:37:45 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up At 11.55 -0700 1-09-04, David Firmin wrote: >http://pictures.care2.com/view/2/907900492 > >Anyone disagree? If so, why? Though call, I like the Eno-, Jobson- and 1979-82 line-ups for different reasons. NP Curis Mayfield, Billy Jack (it's a Curtis period now) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:38:50 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up From: "David Firmin" > http://pictures.care2.com/view/2/907900492 > > Anyone disagree? If so, why? Yep - but my reasons are personal - nothing to do with the music. I got into a verbal disagreement with EJ once and his final response was to slap me in the face. A few years later my husband was working with a band he was in and he did remember me. After their show we were all going to Studio 54. EJ didn't want to go with us; he *knew* he could get in on his own. When we arrived he was standing on the street having been denied entrance. We sailed on in but I did tell Mark, the doorman, that EJ was not a member of our party. Petty? Perhaps. Satisfying? Oh yes. Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 12:55:03 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up When everyone was going hog-wild trying to get Paul Thompson back on board, many of us forgot about EJ. When the final line-up was announced, someone asked Jobson if he would have liked to be part of the reunion - Jobson said he was never asked. We already knew Eno wasn't interested, but I think EJ would have done it, if asked. I don't know what John Gustafson is up to these days, but he was a real solid bass player. All in all, the current line-up is as close to perfection as one could expect. Thanks, David on 9/4/01 12:38 PM, Judy Kaufman at tinkandjeans1st@home.com wrote: > From: "David Firmin" > >> http://pictures.care2.com/view/2/907900492 >> >> Anyone disagree? If so, why? > > Yep - but my reasons are personal - nothing to do with the music. I got into > a verbal disagreement with EJ once and his final response was to slap me in > the face. > A few years later my husband was working with a band he was in and he did > remember me. After their show we were all going to Studio 54. EJ didn't want > to go with us; he *knew* he could get in on his own. When we arrived he was > standing on the street having been denied entrance. We sailed on in but I > did tell Mark, the doorman, that EJ was not a member of our party. Petty? > Perhaps. Satisfying? Oh yes. > > Judy > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:16:24 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up In a message dated 09/04/2001 3:42:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tinkandjeans1st@home.com writes: > Yep - but my reasons are personal - nothing to do with the music. I got into > a verbal disagreement with EJ once and his final response was to slap me in > the face. > A few years later my husband was working with a band he was in and he did > remember me. After their show we were all going to Studio 54. EJ didn't want > to go with us; he *knew* he could get in on his own. When we arrived he was > standing on the street having been denied entrance. We sailed on in but I > did tell Mark, the doorman, that EJ was not a member of our party. Petty? > Perhaps. Satisfying? Oh yes. > > Wow, great story. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:29:59 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up At 12.55 -0700 1-09-04, David Firmin wrote: >When everyone was going hog-wild trying to get Paul Thompson back on board, >many of us forgot about EJ. When the final line-up was announced, someone >asked Jobson if he would have liked to be part of the reunion - Jobson said >he was never asked. I do not think that Jobson has played with any of them after 1976, has he? >We already knew Eno wasn't interested, but I think EJ would have done it, if >asked. I don't know what John Gustafson is up to these days, but he was a >real solid bass player. John Gustafson must in his 60's by now, a veteran of the Cavern days in Liverpool. NP still Curtis, I ought to change the CD but I am too tired Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:24:59 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up In a message dated 09/04/2001 4:01:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eddieriff@yahoo.com writes: > When everyone was going hog-wild trying to get Paul Thompson back on board, > many of us forgot about EJ. When the final line-up was announced, someone > asked Jobson if he would have liked to be part of the reunion - Jobson said > he was never asked. Well, I don't know the man but I made some noise in some postings about whether he'd even be asked and was certainly not surprised when he wasn't. I'd be curious to know the who and when of Jobson being asked for his reaction to the reunion line-up. > > We already knew Eno wasn't interested, but I think EJ would have done it, if > asked. I don't know what John Gustafson is up to these days, but he was a > real solid bass player. I'm not sure I agree that Eddie would have done it. I am mystified by his career choices. After Roxy he tried the "supergroup" route via U.K. and achieved some success, then made a spectacular guest appearance with Jethro Tull. He then tried another short-lived band, Zinc. After that he went the New Age and TV composer route and has shown virtually no interest in resurrecting his rock career. The long-awaited U.K. reunion project was a massive on-again, off-again thing and, as I understand it, was finally scuttled back in 1999. I'm sure if he wanted to put together another rock band and take a shot at the rock limelight again, he could find good players to work with him. But he doesn't seem to have any inclination to go that way. I really would have been shocked if he'd accepted an invitation to join a Roxy reunion. > > All in all, the current line-up is as close to perfection as one could > expect. Pretty close to perfect. The addition of Spedding was brilliant and Colin and Lucy are great additions. Zev is fine though aren't all Roxy bass players disposable? Julia and Sarah are surplussage as are the dancing girls. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:28:25 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Extras for last UK shows In a message dated 09/03/2001 6:44:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, terrypaulrigz8c@supanet.com writes: > Phil has confirmed that there will be unspecified 'extras' at all four > > > UK shows at the end of September and beginning of October. The nature of > > > these 'extras' is not yet completely decided but we will bring > > > Every bass player who has ever played with Roxy will appear and play one number. The show will last approximately 10 hours. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:28:30 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Berlin Beauty Queens- UK Distribution David Squires has kindly agreed to handle UK distribution of the "Berlin Beauty Queens" bootleg. Please contact him at: david@squires.nildram.co.uk Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 13:37:45 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up Here was the original message: - ----- Original Message ----- From: COOLFELLAa1@aol.com To: ej@globemusic.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 9:57 AM Subject: ROXY In view of today's news about the inclusion of Paul Thompson on the tour, I was wondering if you had been approached with a view to you re-joining I have not been asked. ...and are you aware of the growing support that you are receiving from your legion of fans.... No, I can't say that I am. But thank you. Regards, EJ From: "Eddie Jobson" Organization: Globe Music Media Arts on 9/4/01 1:24 PM, ASchulberg@aol.com at ASchulberg@aol.com wrote: > I'd be curious to know the who and when of Jobson being asked for his > reaction to the reunion line-up. *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 14:12:36 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up John Gustafson was born Apr 16, 1944. Eddie Jobson was born May 28, 1955. If I did my math correctly Gus was 29 when Stranded was released. Jobson was only 18!!! on 9/4/01 1:29 PM, Daniel Atterbom at daniel.atterbom@odata.se wrote: > John Gustafson must in his 60's by now, a veteran of the Cavern days in > Liverpool. *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:27:51 +0100 From: "anotherphotographer" Subject: [AVALON] re-coop ? Hi It may already have been posted . . . but . . The "Times on Sunday" as a section called "Doors" (your guide to the internet) Hints & tips; questions & answers about your P.C. Under "Web Shopper" it list . . . www.fraserautographs.com (a section of Gibbons . . the stamp people) They sell autographs They list two . . . `sample prices . . . Sir Stanley Mathews #70 and \/ \/. \/ \/ \/ Bryan Ferry \/ \/ #150 just sign it six times Bry' baby exe's and tickets to pay for regards young ernie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:53:23 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up Sounds about right EJ was only 16/17 when he was in Curved Air Cheers Richard David Firmin wrote: > John Gustafson was born Apr 16, 1944. Eddie Jobson was born May 28, 1955. > > If I did my math correctly Gus was 29 when Stranded was released. Jobson was > only 18!!! > > on 9/4/01 1:29 PM, Daniel Atterbom at daniel.atterbom@odata.se wrote: > > > John Gustafson must in his 60's by now, a veteran of the Cavern days in > > Liverpool. > > *** > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 22:59:18 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: [AVALON] Extras Hope the extras are some songs and if its going to be people ten just Eno and Eddie Jobson Cheers Richard ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 23:16:42 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Berlin Beauty Queens- UK Distribution On 4 Sep 2001, at 16:28, ASchulberg@aol.com wrote: > David Squires has kindly agreed to handle UK distribution of the "Berlin > Beauty Queens" bootleg. Please contact him at: david@squires.nildram.co.uk I'll post a message inviting everyone interested to contact me when the CDs arrive from the US. I'll announce the tree for a fixed period so everyone can order, then we'll burn and distribute the discs. Late orders *may* be accepted, but they will have to wait until everyone else has been dealt with. Watch this space! Regards David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 19:54:24 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] roxy chat room Nobody has ever been there when I checked it out. Too busy arguing about baseball/cricket/vengeance/price of milk etc. I suppose ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:57:49 -0400 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up > > I'm not sure I agree that Eddie would have done it. I am mystified by his > career choices. After Roxy he tried the "supergroup" route via U.K. and > achieved some success, then made a spectacular guest appearance with Jethro > Tull. He then tried another short-lived band, Zinc. > He first auditioned for Procol Harum who jumped at the chance to get him. This was about '76, so he must have still been touring with Roxy at the time which means he must have known the end was near for the band, or at least for him. Tull apparently stole him away with a better offer. IMO, I think he would have done better to go with Procol Harum. Jobson would have been fabulous on Conquistador and Simple Sister etc. Gene NP: Iggy Pop- Kill City ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:14:59 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up In a message dated 09/04/2001 4:43:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eddieriff@yahoo.com writes: > Here was the original message: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: COOLFELLAa1@aol.com > To: ej@globemusic.com > Thanks, David. Do you find that EJ is responsive to your e-mails, assuming you've sent more than this one. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 20:16:37 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] No Sleep 'til Hammersmith Any news on live album yet? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:20:08 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up In a message dated 09/04/2001 8:03:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tmoq@pipeline.com writes: > He first auditioned for Procol Harum who jumped at the chance to get him. > This was about '76, so he must have still been touring with Roxy at the time > which means he must have known the end was near for the band, or at least > for him. Tull apparently stole him away with a better offer. > IMO, I think he would have done better to go with Procol Harum. Jobson would > have been fabulous on Conquistador and Simple Sister etc. > > Hadn't heard this, Gene. Sounds interesting and only adds to the mystery since he would obviously (still?) be a hot commodity for the right band. I forgot to mention his time with Zappa. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 20:21:18 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy London prices This may be absolute heresy, I know, but as a Londoner living in New York ( but who was hidden away in County Kerry last week when the London dates were announced ), I did not hear about them until it was too late and may be able to swing a trip to London..but are the tickets available through these "agents" ( "scalpers" or "touts" ) whatever you call them and does anyone know who can deliver good seats. If this is the last time, I might put aside principled objections to inflated ticket prices. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:19:34 -0400 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More On Jobson.... I just came across this on an old back-up disc from '98. Here's the way Jobson tells it in the February / March 1977 issue of Trouser Press: 'After the Roxy tours my verbal commitment expired and they decided to go off the road. Procol Harum called me up and asked if I wanted to do a tour with them. I thought, if I'm going to go on the road with somebody, I may as well try and go with somebody that would be really good to work for. I called Frank and asked him if the offer was still open, and he said yes. [Zappa had offered Jobson a place in his band while he was still committed to Roxy Music.] The next day I went to play with Procol Harum. That worked out pretty well, but I told them I had to speak to Zappa. So I called up Frank, and he said, 'Get over here as soon as you can,' and so a week later I was there.' EJ Jobson's only major recorded appearance with Zappa was on the Zappa In New York LP, recorded late 1976 (but not released until 1978). He had appeared on the cover of the previous Zappa LP, Zoot Allures (1976), but he did not play on the album, which was recorded before he joined. By the way Jobson was never actually a member of King Crimson - he only did a session for them, providing overdubs for their live album USA, released in 1975. (The author of this part is unknown) Gene NP: nothing ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 18:09:38 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up I didn't have much luck in getting a reply from Jobson. With message titles like "Roxy Music Reunion", it's no wonder he didn't read them. On the day Paul was reinstated, I told a guy named Paul R. to give Eddie's e-mail a shot and Jobson replied immediately. He even asked "Paul who?" Maybe he thought it was PT? I'm sure if you sent Eddie a nice note, he'd appreciate it. Let me know if he responds. Thanks, David - --- ASchulberg@aol.com wrote: > Thanks, David. Do you find that EJ is responsive to your e-mails, assuming you've sent more than this one. > > Arnie *** Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 02:03:51 EDT From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up In a message dated 04/09/01 21:27:03 GMT Daylight Time, daniel.atterbom@odata.se writes: << I do not think that Jobson has played with any of them after 1976, has he? >> Eddie Jobson was last seen on a Roxy releated product in 1977 on Phil Manzanera's Listen Now album. For a list of everything he has done for Roxy and solo :- http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/1118 John O'Brien ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:40:51 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up At 14.12 -0700 1-09-04, David Firmin wrote: >John Gustafson was born Apr 16, 1944. Eddie Jobson was born May 28, 1955. > >If I did my math correctly Gus was 29 when Stranded was released. Jobson was >only 18!!! Sorry, I thought that John Gustafson was at least five years older. He is only 57 now. Jobson is, if my math correct, 46. NP U2 All Along the Watchtower Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:48:17 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] The best line-up At 19.57 -0400 1-09-04, tmoq wrote: >He first auditioned for Procol Harum who jumped at the chance to get him. >This was about '76, so he must have still been touring with Roxy at the time >which means he must have known the end was near for the band, or at least >for him. Tull apparently stole him away with a better offer. >IMO, I think he would have done better to go with Procol Harum. Jobson would >have been fabulous on Conquistador and Simple Sister etc. I interviewed Jobson back in 1980 and he was very nice, not dissing either Roxy Music nor Zappa nor UK. He liked playing with Tull, but wanted to put out a solo album masked as group. Back then he was very much in the rock music game. At 02.03 -0400 1-09-05, OBrienFerry@aol.com wrote: >Eddie Jobson was last seen on a Roxy releated product in 1977 on Phil >Manzanera's Listen Now album. Right, sorry I forgotten about that, but it must have been recorded earlier since Jobson at the time was playing with Zappa, must it not? NP U2, I Still Have Not Found What I Am Looking For, Rattle and Hum Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #427 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest