From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #423 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, September 2 2001 Volume 06 : Number 423 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] bloody 'ell off topic [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Manzo in Guitarist Magazine [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #422 ["David Gilmour" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Poll [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #380 [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] pre gig music ["Philip Adams" ] Re: [AVALON] pre gig music [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] After gig music? ["dark.images" ] [AVALON] Happy Birthday ["PeteK" ] Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] (Off-topic) Exams [lorelei@zoom.co.uk] Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday ["Duncan Watkins" ] [AVALON] Re: Questions answered/asked?????? ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] Horsey subject. ["Mark Heptinstall" ] [AVALON] Ferry's new one / Grant 'splaining and complaining....explained... ["Eman 97" Subject: Re: [AVALON] bloody 'ell off topic Ah, thanks to to server it comes out Sven-Gvran Eriksson when it is Sven-Goran Eriksson, Goran being with an umlat, ie two dots over, a Swedish form of George. Today he is S:t George Eriksson. NP Four Seasons in a Day Crowded House with Tim Finn MTV unplugged Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 11:53:16 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] value of Roxy bootlegs At 14.44 -0400 1-08-16, Grant Goggans wrote: >My personal obsession is with Stoned Records -- the Swedish company who did >Roxy's "Why Do You Think I'm a Funky Chick?" (another stupid title), Patti >Smith's "I Never Talked to Bob Dylan," and similarly high-quality records >for Queen, Black Sabbath and Lou Reed (and someone else) in 1977. Not that >I give two shugs for Queen or Sabbath, but Stoned Records just ooze quality. > The people who sat down and laid out the "Chick" sleeve, and pressed that >gorgeous red vinyl, cared far more about their finished product than anyone >involved with the same year's "Roxy Music Greatest Hits" did, and that love >and attention is apparent in the album. I am going to check out what happend to these people, or do you know Grant? Daniel catching up on a Sunday ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 11:49:10 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] value of Roxy bootlegs I am somewhat late into this thread. I would, since the setlists are pretty much the same, be satisfied with one good complete concert from each Roxy Music etc tour. This why I like the Stockholm 1976 one so much, it's a good concert, professionally recorded at a great venue. I enjoy the 1982 Wembley Arena too for the same reasons. If Roxy Music did not have a contract with Virgin they ought to release a concert from each tour for us fans. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 10:59:11 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy London prices - ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Goggans To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:19 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy London prices > Well, I didn't know we were playing by different rules. Apparently if any > American makes a comment about ticket prices or the amount of money we've > spent, we are COMplaining. If you make the same points, you're only > EXplaining. I'll try to remember to hold you to your different standards > next time. The big difference about what was being posted from the states was the underlying theme of "we're Americans, we're used to 2 hour plus shows so they should play 2 hour shows in America". I sympathise with the folk who went to truncated shows and felt let down, I would have felt the same way, however I didn't like the "we're American we deserve more than anybody else" feel that the earlier posts had, it may not have been typed out, but there was an underlying feel to those posts. The latter posts were justified, people were looking for parity, the posts I comented on were about people wanting more than what had been offered in previous shows. Btw, at which point did I complain about the price of the Hammersmith tickets? If you're going to try and have a go at me at least get your facts straight, perhaps you are the one playing by different rules. Looking forward to Manchester & Glasgow, Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 11:04:22 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] value of Roxy bootlegs - ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Atterbom To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] value of Roxy bootlegs > If Roxy Music did not have a contract with Virgin they ought to release a > concert from each tour for us fans. Daniel, I totally agree with you, but I get the feeling that the only way it will happen is if there were a total colapse in the sales of their back catalogue and future solo recordings. As for the details of how Roxy & Ferry's contacts with Virgin stack up that' one of the great mysteries. I've tried to get some details on this, but so far no luck. Rest assured if I ever do get the low down on what is covered by the contract that they have I'll post it on. Cheers, Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:05:38 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: RE: [AVALON] Punk connection [was: Related Topic] At 08.13 +0100 1-08-17, Guy Lawley asked: >(2) If you were already a Roxy fan in '76, were you more likely to get into >punk? My own experience says "Yes! Definitely!" I saw Bryan Ferry and the Sex Pistols live within months from each other. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:07:28 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] John Foxx (off topic) At 11.22 +0100 1-08-17, thom.wallace wrote: > I bought the first Ultravox single and enjoyed the first >album to a point, but never bothered after that. It is a great Eno-produced album. One of my favorite 70's albums. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:17:08 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] NP At 21.20 -0400 1-08-17, Tim Kendrick wrote: >And I have a couple of Kate Bush bootlegs whose every lo-fi sprackle is a >kick! Didn't she only do one tour back in 1979? Are the bootlegs from TV shows etc? At 18.35 -0700 1-08-17, William Sommers added: >Since she only ever did one tour, and that not only highly choreographed >but readily available on fairly well-produced video, is there really any >point to these? > >Or *drool* have KT Bush Band tapes actually turned up after all these years? A song for Europe, Wembley 1972 Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:34:43 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Manzo in Guitarist Magazine At 19.15 +0100 1-08-20, Ivor Canning wrote: >Apologies if someone else has posted the info, but this month's (September >issue) Guitarist magazine has an interview with the Impossible Guitarist >himself. A few quotes of interest: > >"Of course, we had some differences to sort out. There's no manager now so >we've had to confront problems directly, discuss them, make decisions >together. There's tension, but that's partly why it's all working." They are older and wiser, I reckon. >"People coming to see us are surprised at the depth of the music; all they >remembered was the image and a few singles like Avalon or Dance Away. But >Roxy was never just that; there was another dimension; we were a great >instrumental band too. To that end I led the move to bring Paul back in. >He's one of the great British drummers, a real powerhouse." "It is always good to change sometime between albums" Bryan Ferry Stockholm 1980. >"As for me, once this is over I hope to put together another 801 show with >some friends, maybe a couple of nights somewhere. It would be good if Brian >Eno was there again." Yes, 801 live is one of the best live albums ever. It does not work as well without him, listen to Manchester and spot the difference... NP My Only Love Wembley 1982 Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:23:39 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] What surrounds your Roxy? At 19.08 -0400 1-08-18, KarenASwenson@aol.com wrote: >The CD's are always in the frequent rotation shelf, currently next to >Portishead, My Scarlet Life, Fatboy Slim (sorry), Karma to Burn and >yes...Abba--in Spanish! If you are intrested I can provide Abba in Swedish. :-9 My Roxy is surrounded by books, magazines, computers, telephones, cd's and other stuff that is in my workroom. And sometimes a dog or two. NP Can't Let Go, Wembley 1982 Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 11:37:24 +0100 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: [AVALON] pre gig music Nice gentle topic for a sunday. Does anyone remember/have a list of the music played over the sound system before the various Roxy/Ferry Tours over the years? I wonder who chooses it? My contribution is 'The Cars' by 'The Cars'played pre gig on the 'Manifesto'tour.Didn't know at the time what it was,in fact with all the background 'hubub' I thought it was unreleased Roxy stuff! A few weeks later I heard a track that had stuck in my mind 'Moving in Stereo'being played in a record shop,I bought the album,it's pretty good and still sounds good today! Waiting for Vienna, NP 'Good Times Roll' The Cars. Duncan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 10:51:22 From: "David Gilmour" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #422 Starting time of the concerts ? At what time will RM be starting september 13th in rotterdam?At what time does the support act start ? and who will be the support act ? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Download MSN Explorer gratis van http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 11:55:46 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Poll In no Particilar order: If There is Something ( VIVA!) Beauty Queen In Every Dreamhome A heartache Just Like You Amazona Mother of Pearl Casanova ( original ) A Really Good Time Avalon To turn you on. And the runners up are; Ladytron Virginia Plain Pyjamarama Editions of you For your Pleasure Sunset The thrill of it all Sentimental fool Just Another High True to life Any of the runners up can sometimes slip into the Top 10, deppending on my mood. Terry "O" NP:Barber. Adagio for strings. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Philip Adams To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:12 AM Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Poll > Where was that poll in which I nominated 10 fave Roxy tracks? > > What were the results? > > Anyone? > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 07:00:11 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Poll In a message dated 02/09/01 11:53:20 GMT Daylight Time, terrypaulrigz8c@supanet.com writes: > In no Particilar order: > If There is Something ( VIVA!) > Beauty Queen > In Every Dreamhome A heartache > A song for Europe > Mother of Pearl > Out of the blue Ladytron The thrill of it all Stronger through the years Prairie Rose ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:46:47 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #380 At 15.32 -0700 1-08-16, Eman 97 wrote: >The band name I believe is "Terroresten" something like that, "The >Terrorist" in Swedish, if my rudementary Swedish serves... "TerrorIsten" is the correct spelling I believe. I tried to find a website, but no luck. NP Like A Hurricane, Wembley 1982 (My fav Roxy cover) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 13:04:06 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fans of Roxy Music might like... At 19.32 +0100 1-08-22, dark.images wrote: >Deaf school (2nd honeymoon album) Another great album from the 70's! I would not sell the dogs for Roxy or any other bands, but i am still excited about Avalon and the reunion sitting here reading the postings from August and listening to the 1982 Wembley Arena concert has making me long for Copenhagen. And welcome back JVapor, the court jester of Avalon! NP Jealous Guy, Wembley Arena 1982 Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 13:22:34 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy in Manchester At 20.44 -0400 1-08-20, ASchulberg@aol.com wrote: >Question about the Manchester boot. This may have been posted and I missed >it. But on the second disk, after FYP, there's ITIS and.... (can't remember, >still playing it through the first time). Are these bits from another show as >a *bonus* to the Manchester boot or did they come on AFTER FYP and do a >second encore The bonus tracks are: 10. Both Ends Burning. 11. Mother of Pearl (with a dedication to Simon) 12. For Your Pleasure ("We're of the conquer the world now") They are from London. They're the special surprise bonus tracks! NP Curtis Mayfield, There is no place like America today Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 13:25:06 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] value of Roxy bootlegs At 11.04 +0100 1-09-02, thom.wallace wrote: >Daniel, I totally agree with you, but I get the feeling that the only way it >will happen is if there were a total colapse in the sales of their back >catalogue and future solo recordings. As for the details of how Roxy & >Ferry's contacts with Virgin stack up that' one of the great mysteries. I've >tried to get some details on this, but so far no luck. Rest assured if I >ever do get the low down on what is covered by the contract that they have >I'll post it on. I will try to remember to ask Phil Manzanera about this. They could do what Dylans has done, limited edition bottleg series. Cheers, Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 14:17:22 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: starting time 20.00 is the time on the ticket, with support act so I expect Roxy to start round 21.00 No name for the support act so far Han Van: David Gilmour > Starting time of the concerts ? > At what time will RM be starting september 13th in rotterdam?At what time > does the support act start ? and who will be the support act ? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 14:13:16 +0100 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] pre gig music I thought I remembered "Sultanesque" on the Manifesto tour Philip > Nice gentle topic for a sunday. > > Does anyone remember/have a list of the music played over the sound system > before the various Roxy/Ferry Tours over the years? I wonder who chooses it? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 15:54:06 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] pre gig music At 14.13 +0100 1-09-02, Philip Adams wrote: >I thought I remembered "Sultanesque" on the Manifesto tour Are you aware that you have the same name as Phil Manzanera who has Adams in his name? NP Japan, The Art of Parties Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 15:23:54 +0100 From: "dark.images" Subject: [AVALON] After gig music? After my first Roxy concert in Newcastle in 1973(Stranded tour) The track "These foolish things" was played on the p.a when the lights came back on . Andy.H. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 08:33:04 -0700 From: "PeteK" Subject: [AVALON] Happy Birthday It's September. Bryan will be 56 on the 26th. I prefer the "lets stick together" Casanova over the original. I figure Bryan must have had some dissatisfaction with the original or why else would he cover his own song. Also is there no end to the criticism over the Boys and Girls record ?. Again I adore it. Every second. Someone has to invoke some sanity here. Running out of time. NP Caravan's Cunning Stunts ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 16:48:08 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday In all honesty I think doing covers of his own songs for b-sides would have more to do with royalties, wouldn't you? Terry "O" NP:BF, Which way to turn. - ----- Original Message ----- From: PeteK To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 4:33 PM Subject: [AVALON] Happy Birthday > It's September. Bryan will be 56 on the 26th. I prefer the "lets stick > together" Casanova over the original. I figure Bryan must have had some > dissatisfaction with the original or why else would he cover his own song. > Also is there no end to the criticism over the Boys and Girls record ?. Again > I adore it. Every second. Someone has to invoke some sanity here. Running out > of time. > > NP Caravan's Cunning Stunts > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 17:12:14 +0100 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday Terry you really are an 'old' cynic!But that's why I enjoy your contributions so much! Anyway as Bryan once said, that there were at least two versions of every song,I've always wondered why apart from the 'Lets stick together' tracks he hasn't re-recorded any other stuff. Back to 'the birthday' RM are playing Vienna 26/9,it's also the 'birthday' of the 'gasometer' entertainment venue,being the first official gig there.So named because it's actually been built within an old gasometer-should be interesting! Regards, Duncan >From: "terrypaulrigz8c" >In all honesty I think doing covers of his own songs for b-sides would have >more to do with royalties, wouldn't you? > >Terry "O" > >NP:BF, Which way to turn. >___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 17:37:55 +0100 (BST) From: lorelei@zoom.co.uk Subject: Re: [AVALON] (Off-topic) Exams Quoting avalon-digest : > Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:02:37 EDT > From: KWil632057@aol.com > Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates > > You can do it girl!!!! > > Jonathan Heh, thanks, assuming you mean the exams :-) Bye, - -- Laura Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:40:29 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday Dear Duncan, I put my hands up to being called a cynic, but OLD, at 42 I consider myself a mere kiddie!. I would love to hear Bryan cover his own songs, perhaps with Micheal Kamen at the helm, but you must admit, 2HB, Chance Meeting and Sea Breazes add nothing to the originals,as I think a cover should or at least a re-interpritation, hence my "cynical" remark on royalties. Actually the M Kamen idea sounds FAB, but then we don't want to give our old boy any more to do it could be years before he get's any material out. I am beginning to wonder if the promised "Boxed Set" might be too heavy to carry home at this rate. Oh, I do prefer the heavy section of Sea Breezes to the original. NP: I'm in love with my Car by Queen, (I'm told that song caused ructions in the Queen camp (no pun intended) due to the excesive amounts of spondoola Roger Taylor got for it being the B-side of BO RAP). - ----- Original Message ----- From: Duncan Watkins To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday > Terry you really are an 'old' cynic!But that's why I enjoy your > contributions so much! > > Anyway as Bryan once said, that there were at least two versions of every > song,I've always wondered why apart from the 'Lets stick together' tracks he > hasn't re-recorded any other stuff. > > > > Regards, > > Duncan > > > > >From: "terrypaulrigz8c" > > >In all honesty I think doing covers of his own songs for b-sides would have > >more to do with royalties, wouldn't you? > > > >Terry "O" > > > >NP:BF, Which way to turn. > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > > The subliminable footer says: > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >The subliminable footer says: > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 12:47:50 EDT From: Ktwicked@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON]: keep up the good work! David wrote: I'm not going to any of the final UK shows (unless someone else is paying). However, if you are and want others to know it, why not post your details up on my site. If you'd like to be included, here's how: poor david, he works so hard on his site to get us all organised on who's going were and when, but he doesn't get to go to the concerts himself! just like to say i appreciate your hard work! kt norwich norfolk! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 18:07:25 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: [AVALON] Horsey subject. Can anyone give me the reason Bryan changed his record sleeve patern with Mamouna, although featuring a "beauty" on the back of the sleeve, the painting on the front by James Ward is a substantial change of style from our style guru, (actually he would be Fab in AB FAB wouldn't he, go on someone write a spoof script), soory I digress. Was the painting commissioned for the album?, is the artist still alive?, I'm sure the all knowing SG will get back to me on this one. Terry "O" NP: The Price of Love, BF. I'm off to get my castinetts!!!!!!!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 18:09:16 +0100 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday That's why I wrote 'old' not OLD, in fact I think we are both described as 'mid youth' in todays jargon. Silly questions perhaps but who is Michael Kamen? and when is/was/and where was this BF boxed set promised? Duncan >From: "terrypaulrigz8c" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday >Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:40:29 +0100 > >Dear Duncan, >I put my hands up to being called a cynic, but OLD, at 42 I consider myself >a mere kiddie!. >I would love to hear Bryan cover his own songs, perhaps with Micheal Kamen >at the helm, but you must admit, 2HB, Chance Meeting and Sea Breazes add >nothing to the originals,as I think a cover should or at least a >re-interpritation, hence my "cynical" remark on royalties. >Actually the M Kamen idea sounds FAB, but then we don't want to give our >old >boy any more to do it could be years before he get's any material out. >I am beginning to wonder if the promised "Boxed Set" might be too heavy to >carry home at this rate. >Oh, I do prefer the heavy section of Sea Breezes to the original. > >NP: I'm in love with my Car by Queen, (I'm told that song caused ructions >in >the Queen camp (no pun intended) due to the excesive amounts of spondoola >Roger Taylor got for it being the B-side of BO RAP). >----- Original Message ----- >From: Duncan Watkins >To: >Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 5:12 PM >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday > > > > Terry you really are an 'old' cynic!But that's why I enjoy your > > contributions so much! > > > > Anyway as Bryan once said, that there were at least two versions of >every > > song,I've always wondered why apart from the 'Lets stick together' >tracks >he > > hasn't re-recorded any other stuff. > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Duncan > > > > > > > > >From: "terrypaulrigz8c" > > > > >In all honesty I think doing covers of his own songs for b-sides would >have > > >more to do with royalties, wouldn't you? > > > > > >Terry "O" > > > > > >NP:BF, Which way to turn. > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > > > The subliminable footer says: > > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > >The subliminable footer says: > > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 18:41:16 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Questions answered/asked?????? Now I don't know much about Micheal Kamen but I think he is a Composer/Producer/Conductor of Symphonic Rock. He worked a year or two ago with Mettallica doing an orchestral tour with them which resulted in a Live CD/DVD (I don't own it). He worked with Ferry on Sonnet 18, writer/producer/arranger and they also worked together on last years big charity concert? in Geneva when Bryan performed LST, JG plus others (can someone help me out here?). So does anyone know if they have done any more studio stuff or is that for the boxed set which Bryan was muttering about before the lucrative (oh, cynical me) Roxy deal came along. Terry "O" NP: Anwser Me. BF. - ---- Original Message ----- From: Duncan Watkins To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday > That's why I wrote 'old' not OLD, in fact I think we are both described as > 'mid youth' in todays jargon. > > Silly questions perhaps but who is Michael Kamen? and when is/was/and where > was this BF boxed set promised? > > Duncan > > > >From: "terrypaulrigz8c" > >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org > >To: > >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday > >Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 17:40:29 +0100 > > > >Dear Duncan, > >I put my hands up to being called a cynic, but OLD, at 42 I consider myself > >a mere kiddie!. > >I would love to hear Bryan cover his own songs, perhaps with Micheal Kamen > >at the helm, but you must admit, 2HB, Chance Meeting and Sea Breazes add > >nothing to the originals,as I think a cover should or at least a > >re-interpritation, hence my "cynical" remark on royalties. > >Actually the M Kamen idea sounds FAB, but then we don't want to give our > >old > >boy any more to do it could be years before he get's any material out. > >I am beginning to wonder if the promised "Boxed Set" might be too heavy to > >carry home at this rate. > >Oh, I do prefer the heavy section of Sea Breezes to the original. > > > >NP: I'm in love with my Car by Queen, (I'm told that song caused ructions > >in > >the Queen camp (no pun intended) due to the excesive amounts of spondoola > >Roger Taylor got for it being the B-side of BO RAP). > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Duncan Watkins > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 5:12 PM > >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Happy Birthday > > > > > > > Terry you really are an 'old' cynic!But that's why I enjoy your > > > contributions so much! > > > > > > Anyway as Bryan once said, that there were at least two versions of > >every > > > song,I've always wondered why apart from the 'Lets stick together' > >tracks > >he > > > hasn't re-recorded any other stuff. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "terrypaulrigz8c" > > > > > > >In all honesty I think doing covers of his own songs for b-sides would > >have > > > >more to do with royalties, wouldn't you? > > > > > > > >Terry "O" > > > > > > > >NP:BF, Which way to turn. > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > The subliminable footer says: > > > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > > >The subliminable footer says: > > > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > > The subliminable footer says: > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >The subliminable footer says: > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 18:51:20 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: [AVALON] RM/BF on VCD. Has anybody tried transfering their RM/BF video tapes on to VCD yet? As the Roxy live videos are now deleted it would be good to have them transfered on to disc to protect the tapes. If you have could you mail me off list with any news on your results/methods. Cheers, Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 18:48:19 +0100 From: "Mark Heptinstall" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Horsey subject. James Ward died in 1859 - I don't know the reason for the choice of the picture nor where it hangs - although I vaguely recall coming across it somewhere before. Mark UK - ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrypaulrigz8c" To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: [AVALON] Horsey subject. Can anyone give me the reason Bryan changed his record sleeve patern with Mamouna, although featuring a "beauty" on the back of the sleeve, the painting on the front by James Ward is a substantial change of style from our style guru, (actually he would be Fab in AB FAB wouldn't he, go on someone write a spoof script), soory I digress. Was the painting commissioned for the album?, is the artist still alive?, I'm sure the all knowing SG will get back to me on this one. Terry "O" NP: The Price of Love, BF. I'm off to get my castinetts!!!!!!!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 12:41:46 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry's new one / Grant 'splaining and complaining....explained... >>>>I just read where a star studded compilation CD and documentary "Good Rockin' Tonight -The Legacy of Sun Records" is ot be released on October 16th in the USA by London-Sire. This is Ferry's "new record" to be released in October. ;-) Grant: Remember, the British are not the stoics they advertise. Brits are whiners, and Yanks are Braggarts. Let's keep our roles straight. ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 16:27:47 EDT From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Horsey subject. In a message dated 02/09/01 18:52:34 GMT Daylight Time, markhept@waitrose.com writes: << James Ward died in 1859 - I don't know the reason for the choice of the picture nor where it hangs - although I vaguely recall coming across it somewhere before. >> I think Bryan owns that painting, he referred to it in the Mamouna Documentary Promo Video. I t was hanging in the background during an interview with him. I read/seen an interview somewhere where Bryan refereed to the songs as pieces and that was a classical music expression and thought the Horse picture gave the album a classical look. John O'Brien ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #423 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest