From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #417 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, August 30 2001 Volume 06 : Number 417 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: RE: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: The Explorers [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] roxy chat room ["dark.images" ] Re: [AVALON] roxy chat room ["Sally-Ann Barbera" ] Re: [AVALON] roxy chat room [KarenASwenson@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] roxy chat room [David Firmin ] [AVALON] Roxy Listener tastes and camping [Susan Stekel ] Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On [Colleen Matan ] RE: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices [Rosalind Bull ] Re: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices [Aleks Kocan ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Listener tastes and camping [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] London ticket prices ["Rachel Smither" Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices >>> Rosalind Bull 08/30 2:38 pm >>> > I am torn between stumping up because I can afford it really and telling > them they can go stick their heads up a dead bear's bum. Maybe that would help Bryan hit the right notes... ;-) SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:42:51 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates!! In a message dated 8/30/01 7:30:15 AM, monique@eq1152.demon.co.uk writes: << Tickets are now available for 2 shows 1st and 2nd October at London Apollo Hammersmith >> Didn't Bryan repeatedly say that they would decide the bands future on September 30th?(My Birthday, as it happens) These could be Post-Break-up gigs! Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:46:02 +0100 From: Rosalind Bull Subject: RE: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices Yeah. It's not that I begrudge the money personally. As I said I'm a rich bitch and I AM actually forking out to see them in Antwerp, Berlin, Manchester and Glasgow for fox sakes. I was trying to show solidarity with poor people :-) - -----Original Message----- From: andy.clique@btinternet.com [mailto:andy.clique@btinternet.com] Sent: 30 August 2001 15:36 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices Good grief, what is wrong with you.... Fifty quid, what's that... 3 CDs, a couple of bottles of whisky, a new shirt, a few lousy illegal drugs, five Viagra, whatever OR An hour and a half of sheer unadulterated ecstacy listening, probably for the last ever time ROXY MUSIC live, in the flesh, for real!! A BARGAIN regards Andy Langley > Yes this #50 per ticket lark is unfortunate as a number of my friends who > wanted to come won't/can't pay those sorts of prices. I have never actually > paid so much for a single music event in my entire life (i.e. excluding the > Fleadh etc), and can't quite see how 80 odd minutes can justify those > prices. The Apollo is my local and I have stood on a number of occasions > but I can't remember paying more than a tenner to do it - #30 to stand? > > I am torn between stumping up because I can afford it really and telling > them they can go stick their heads up a dead bear's bum. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:50:00 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices In a message dated 8/30/01 9:37:36 AM, andy.clique@btinternet.com writes: << a couple of bottles of whisky, a new shirt, a few lousy illegal drugs, five Viagra, whatever OR An hour and a half of sheer unadulterated ecstacy listening, probably for the last ever time ROXY MUSIC live, in the flesh, for real!! >> Don't be so cheap. Go for the whiskey, the shirt, the drugs, the viagra, AND the concert! Thats a night to remember... Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 07:51:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: RE: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices - --- andy.clique@btinternet.com wrote: > Good grief, what is wrong with you.... > > Fifty quid, what's that... 3 CDs, a couple of > bottles of whisky, a new shirt, a few lousy illegal > drugs, five Viagra, whatever > OR 2 (two) tickets to see either Oasis, New Order at the Manchester Apollo with money spare to buy a couple of beers OR 2 (two) tickets to see Springsteen at the Manchester Apollo a couple of years ago OR 2 (two) tickets to see Ferry on the ATGB tour in similar sized venues... OR nearly 2 (two) tickets to see Roxy at the SECC or M.E.N > > A BARGAIN > Don't think so... Aleks Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 07:49:45 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: The Explorers I was quite pleased when I found Crack The Whip and Up In Smoke for 99 cents. Even though the used record bins were overflowing with copies of Mamouna and Taxi, I'm still sure I made the right decision. Like I said, Andy Mackay's my favourite, Paul comes in a close second. on 8/30/01 7:33 AM, KarenASwenson@aol.com at KarenASwenson@aol.com wrote: > Coincidentally, I got my first taste of The Explorers yesterday when Up In > Smoke came in the mail. After two listenings, I'm not very impressed. > Musicianship is pretty good, which is the least I'd expect from Mack and the > Man--they're kind of stuck in an Avalon-era groove. The songwriting is not > memorable, and Wraith's Ferry-esque posings are kind of pitiful. Also, the > fadeouts are clumsy. > Then again, my long-term fiance Steve is piping up in the background that > the percussion is excellent, and this particular track, Lorelei, is > reminiscent of later Echo & the Bunnymen and Clash--perfect club music. > It's listenable, but I'd take 801 or Phil's/Andy's other stuff over this > any day. > Karen *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:54:24 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On At 08.36 -0400 1-08-30, Grant Goggans wrote: >One might well ask why perform "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall," "Diamond Head" >and "Wild Weekend" on a Roxy tour. Yet the band did at most of their >1975-76 concerts. To take some tension of the egos the led to the split after Viva!? Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:29:00 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mean ol' Thom - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Marie Shaw To: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:04 AM Subject: [AVALON] Mean ol' Thom > You, like everyone else are entitled to your own opinion, but its not what > you say, but how you say it. You brought in the topic of baseball, why?, > which is totally unrelated to the thread and indeed this forum. The original posting (not by myself) compared the size of audience that is drawn to a Madonna show to that of one by Roxy/Ferry. To me there is no logical comparison . So I introduced the equally illogical comparison with baseball to try and show what I thought of the original comparison. Perhaps you would have taken the point I was trying to make if you hadn't so ready to assume the high moral ground. Btw, who decided that you have the right to dictate how people express things? > Rather than > it just being something you dont particularly like, you seem to wish to > insult anyone for liking something you dont. You show complete disrespect > and intolerance for the views and tastes of anything that differs from > yours. Your haughty approach to debate is only equalled by your tawdry > attempt at defending your vindictive rantings. Let's take a look at the "vindictive" bit. To be vindictive you have to be showing a desire for vengence, even you must admit it is highly unlikely that it is possible that I am looking for some sort of retaliation on baseball or on its fans for something, especially as it is not a game played much or followed much in Scotland. It seems to be a bit of a trait by certain people on this list to take the content of a general posting and use it as a means to allow themselves the freedom to launch highly personal attacks. If anyone is showing a "complete disrespect and intolerance for the views and tastes" I'd say it would be them. Surly it is the puvayours of the personal attacks who are displaying the attributes of haughtiness or tawdriness. If someone says to me that Roxy are crap I don't take it as a personal attack on myself, but simply that they don't like Roxy. However when people whom I have never met start to use words like mean spirited or vindictive to describe me, that is personal and I reserve the right to defend myself. I have noticed though that the people who are so willing to make a personal attack are also the ones who would deny people the right to defend theselves, usually by the haughty maner they accuse others of displaying. Now that is tawdry. Might I suggest you go on about you business and cut the attacks on someone that you don't actually know . Even better as you seem to take so much offence from my posting delete them unread. Tom . ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:36:12 +0100 From: "dark.images" Subject: [AVALON] roxy chat room Does anyone on the list use the roxy chat room at any certain time? Andy.H. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 01:35:55 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] roxy chat room Didn't know there was one? - -----Original Message----- From: dark.images To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Friday, 31 August 2001 1:34 Subject: [AVALON] roxy chat room >Does anyone on the list use the roxy chat room at any certain time? > Andy.H. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:49:45 EDT From: KarenASwenson@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] roxy chat room I recall someone suggesting 5-9 pm Sunday and Wednesday Eastern time (US), but don't know if anyone checked it out--I kept forgetting. Karen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:53:35 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] roxy chat room I can't access it at work. When I get home, all of Europe is in bed :( A few list members have shown up from time to time. I heard that Caroline, Mari, Helena, Paula, Rick, Michelle and Greg were on there just after four yesterday; US central time. If you want to try it around then, the address is: http://pub42.bravenet.com/chat/show.php?usernum=3542466064&cpv=1 Your computer will need to accept Java. Thanks, David *** on 8/30/01 8:35 AM, Sally-Ann Barbera at horswise@acay.com.au wrote: > Didn't know there was one? > -----Original Message----- > From: dark.images > To: avalon@smoe.org > Date: Friday, 31 August 2001 1:34 > Subject: [AVALON] roxy chat room > > >> Does anyone on the list use the roxy chat room at any certain time? >> Andy.H. *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:08:12 -0500 From: Susan Stekel Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Listener tastes and camping At 06:51 PM 8/29/01 EDT, you wrote: >I'm in interested in the listening habits of other Avalonians - some fall >into the camp of getting to Roxy/BF through the art-rock/punk that was >inspired by them e.g. Ultravox!, Wire, PIL, Joy Division. Others who listened >to prog rock - e.g. King Crimson, ELP, Yes, Genesis. I'm sure there are more camps in addition to these. There's great evidence for this in the comments that crop up -- those that Love Country Life but Hate Avalon, and so on. Fans of Manzanera's guitar work. etc. etc. But I come at it from a slightly different angle -- as a fan of electronic music. I have an older brother who was into computers and synthesizers (in the 70's mind you, so this wasn't exactly sophisticated stuff), and I grew up listening to Tangerine Dream, Synergy, Jean-Michel Jarre, etc. Even some of the more obscure names, like Charles Dodge. As I got a little older, I discovered Phillip Glass, John Cage, Brian Eno -- while at the same time, I was positively swooning over the elegance of Avalon. So imagine my happy surprise at finding that Eno had started out with Roxy! That cemented the deal, right there. So: I find myself in the very, very small camp of people who consider both Avalon AND the first two Roxy albums as the pinnacle of their work. I'm certainly not disparaging more riff-oriented guitar rock, and I love Stranded and (to a lesser extent) Country Life. I can easily understand those preferences. They're simply not where my tastes and interests lie. I don't mind the "coldness" of Avalon one bit -- I'm swept up in the sheer elegance and style of it. For anyone curious about this history of this music, there's a great compilation of the very early stuff (1950's, 60's) called OHM: The Early Gurus of Electronic Music. Yes, Eno's on there. There is also, of course, Andy M's book "Electronic Music" -- which I'm dying to get my hands on. Anyone here read it? And moreso -- is anyone else in this particular camp as well? Shouting "hellooo" and hearing an echo, Susan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:14:52 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices ANDY, COULDN'T AGREE MORE, GOT MINE BLK 24, ROW F, 18&19. THIS IS BRILLIANT!!!!!!! For those moaners, I hope theres enough dead Bears for you all, if not just share them! Terry "O" np: There is a God. by me. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices > Good grief, what is wrong with you.... > > Fifty quid, what's that... 3 CDs, a couple of bottles of whisky, a new shirt, a few lousy illegal drugs, five Viagra, whatever > > OR > > An hour and a half of sheer unadulterated ecstacy listening, probably for the last ever time ROXY MUSIC live, in the flesh, for real!! > > A BARGAIN > > regards > > Andy Langley > > > Yes this #50 per ticket lark is unfortunate as a number of my friends who > > wanted to come won't/can't pay those sorts of prices. I have never actually > > paid so much for a single music event in my entire life (i.e. excluding the > > Fleadh etc), and can't quite see how 80 odd minutes can justify those > > prices. The Apollo is my local and I have stood on a number of occasions > > but I can't remember paying more than a tenner to do it - #30 to stand? > > > > I am torn between stumping up because I can afford it really and telling > > them they can go stick their heads up a dead bear's bum. > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:18:47 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] roxy chat room Occasionaly and randomly. >>> "dark.images" 08/30 4:36 pm >>> Does anyone on the list use the roxy chat room at any certain time? Andy.H. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:29:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Therese O'Donnell wrote: > Anyway at the risk of starting a competitive SOTW to 'Casanova', I'll > shut up - brevity being the sole of discretion. It's not a competition and it's not meant to exclude other songs from concurrent discussion. I haven't had a chance to listen to the "Casanova"s again yet, but "To Turn You On" is so imprinted on my brain I don't need a refresher. I completely agree with JO'B when he said: > I see this song as one of the best love songs Bryan has ever written Like Therese, I can't understand the antipathy towards it either. This song will be forever linked with the feeling of years ago lying on my back on a hardwood floor in the gathering dusk with a friend, me being extremely hung over, listening to it over and over again as I dissected an extremely upsetting conversation I'd had the night before. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:34:38 +0100 From: Rosalind Bull Subject: RE: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices Terry "O" I'm assuming this is your bank balance ;-) Of COURSE I'm going to the Apollo. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:44:45 EDT From: Ktwicked@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [AVALON] TERRY 0!! Hello just reading you email and you scared me! what day are you going? because youve got the same tickets as me,block 24, row f, seats 18+19, just got them. hope your going tuesday because its going to be a bit crowded otherwise! katiex Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (rly-zd05.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.229]) by air-zd04.mail.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZD46-0830123839; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:38:39 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [66.89.201.78]) by rly-zd05.mx.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZD57-0830123822; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:38:22 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id f7UGaBlj015040; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:36:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/submit) with SMTP id f7UGa9fT015039; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:35:49 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id f7UGZllj014992 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/submit) id f7UGZlSM014991 for avalon-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cascade_01.sundaybusiness.co.uk (mail.sundaybusiness.co.uk [212.161.80.2]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id f7UGZglj014984 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CASCADE_01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:34:41 +0100 Message-ID: From: Rosalind Bull To: "'avalon@smoe.org'" Subject: RE: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:34:38 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Sender: owner-avalon@smoe.org Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terry "O" I'm assuming this is your bank balance ;-) Of COURSE I'm going to the Apollo. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:48:13 +0100 (BST) From: lorelei@zoom.co.uk Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates!! I really don't think I'll be able to go to these dates :-( #50 for the ticket is bad enough, let alone the train prices, and my dad isn't as easy to manipulate as KT's seems to be. - -- Laura Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:52:34 EDT From: KarenASwenson@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Listener tastes and camping I'm pretty much in your camp, too, Susan. I grew up obsessed with stuff like Dick Hyman's Moog stuff, and Walter Carlos' (Wendy came much later) stuff. I'd listen to the stk of Clockwork Orange and learn the parts I could of Carlos' arrangements, and do very strange things with reel-to-reel tapes. (My dad, luckily, understood my scientific approach to music and didn't stop my somewhat destructive experiments.) The Eighties came, and I studied pipe organ in college and messed with a Korg PolySix when I should have been studying. A flood of great and mediocre synth-pop dominated the airwaves then, and I discovered Roxy through Avalon. They appealed to me, and when I belatedly discovered the Eno connection, I was hooked for life. I've noticed most other Roxy fans seem to also have obscure music taste from a young age, n'est-ce pas? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:55:46 EDT From: Ktwicked@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates!! hey laura! well me just been down to the bank and withdrawn #300 from my bank that ive got from working weekends at the ambluance station! so that goes towards the rotterdam show! but you really should try the puppy eyes! ktx ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:14:03 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] TERRY 0!! Yep, I'm on Teusday, Keep it warm for me! ENJOY. Terry "O" - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:44 PM Subject: Fwd: [AVALON] TERRY 0!! > hope your going tuesday because its going to be a bit crowded > otherwise! > > katiex ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices - --- terrypaulrigz8c > ANDY, > COULDN'T AGREE MORE, GOT MINE BLK 24, ROW F, 18&19. > THIS IS BRILLIANT!!!!!!! > For those moaners, I hope theres enough dead Bears > for you all, if not just > share them! > > Terry "O" Well Terry, I'm sure that the whole list will congratulate you in obtaining such "prized" tickets. Maybe, I also fall into the category of a "moaner", but just don't forget that some members on this list (especially maybe the younger ones) can't afford to pay these sort of prices... Aleks Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:20:57 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Listener tastes and camping The Velvet Underground had a major influence on Roxy Music. I can really hear their influence on Warm Jets. The stuff Eno did with John Cale is very good too. on 8/30/01 9:08 AM, Susan Stekel at steke002@tc.umn.edu wrote: > At 06:51 PM 8/29/01 EDT, you wrote: >> I'm in interested in the listening habits of other Avalonians - some fall >> into the camp of getting to Roxy/BF through the art-rock/punk that was >> inspired by them e.g. Ultravox!, Wire, PIL, Joy Division. Others who > listened >> to prog rock - e.g. King Crimson, ELP, Yes, Genesis. > > I'm sure there are more camps in addition to these. There's great evidence > for this in the comments that crop up -- those that Love Country Life but > Hate Avalon, and so on. Fans of Manzanera's guitar work. etc. etc. > > But I come at it from a slightly different angle -- as a fan of electronic > music. I have an older brother who was into computers and synthesizers (in > the 70's mind you, so this wasn't exactly sophisticated stuff), and I grew > up listening to Tangerine Dream, Synergy, Jean-Michel Jarre, etc. Even > some of the more obscure names, like Charles Dodge. As I got a little > older, I discovered Phillip Glass, John Cage, Brian Eno -- while at the > same time, I was positively swooning over the elegance of Avalon. So > imagine my happy surprise at finding that Eno had started out with Roxy! > That cemented the deal, right there. So: I find myself in the very, very > small camp of people who consider both Avalon AND the first two Roxy albums > as the pinnacle of their work. I'm certainly not disparaging more > riff-oriented guitar rock, and I love Stranded and (to a lesser extent) > Country Life. I can easily understand those preferences. They're simply > not where my tastes and interests lie. I don't mind the "coldness" of > Avalon one bit -- I'm swept up in the sheer elegance and style of it. > > For anyone curious about this history of this music, there's a great > compilation of the very early stuff (1950's, 60's) called OHM: The Early > Gurus of Electronic Music. Yes, Eno's on there. There is also, of course, > Andy M's book "Electronic Music" -- which I'm dying to get my hands on. > Anyone here read it? And moreso -- is anyone else in this particular camp > as well? > > Shouting "hellooo" and hearing an echo, > > Susan > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:28:24 -0400 From: "Cambra, Robert" Subject: [AVALON] So what's he been up to? It was a real pleasure to see Paul Thompson back with the band in Concord--or as Ferry knows the place, San Francisco. I was surprised and delighted to find out that Paul and Chris Spedding would be with Roxy (how the years fly by, last time I saw Spedding was with Ferry's solo tour in '77). I curious: what's Paul Thompson been doing these last twenty years? Cheers, Robert ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:35:34 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] So what's he been up to? Have a look at his website http://www.pauldrum.com/ SimonG >>> "Cambra, Robert" 08/30 6:28 pm >>> It was a real pleasure to see Paul Thompson back with the band in Concord--or as Ferry knows the place, San Francisco. I was surprised and delighted to find out that Paul and Chris Spedding would be with Roxy (how the years fly by, last time I saw Spedding was with Ferry's solo tour in '77). I curious: what's Paul Thompson been doing these last twenty years? Cheers, Robert ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:45:03 -0400 From: "Dillon, John" Subject: RE: [AVALON] So what's he been up to? >>I curious: what's Paul Thompson been doing these last twenty years? >>Cheers, >>Robert Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?............. ahhhhhhhhhh cue to Mr. David Firmin All the Best John Dillon - -----Original Message----- From: Cambra, Robert [mailto:Robert.Cambra@harpercollins.com] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:28 PM To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Subject: [AVALON] So what's he been up to? It was a real pleasure to see Paul Thompson back with the band in Concord--or as Ferry knows the place, San Francisco. I was surprised and delighted to find out that Paul and Chris Spedding would be with Roxy (how the years fly by, last time I saw Spedding was with Ferry's solo tour in '77). I curious: what's Paul Thompson been doing these last twenty years? Cheers, Robert ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:42:54 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] So what's he been up to? Paul had some success with Concrete Blonde. He had his first Gold album in the US with Bloodletting. Mexican Moon has a version of "End of the Line". Before the Roxy reunion he was playing the pub circuit in a band called Tortoisehead Sometimes you can chat with him on his forum: http://pub17.bravenet.com/forum/show.asp?usernum=1385772333 Thanks, David on 8/30/01 10:28 AM, Cambra, Robert at Robert.Cambra@harpercollins.com wrote: > It was a real pleasure to see Paul Thompson back with the band in > Concord--or as Ferry knows the place, San Francisco. I was surprised and > delighted to find out that Paul and Chris Spedding would be with Roxy (how > the years fly by, last time I saw Spedding was with Ferry's solo tour in > '77). I curious: what's Paul Thompson been doing these last twenty years? > > Cheers, > Robert ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:19:39 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices Aleks, Piont taken, In 1976 I had to ask my Mom for the extra 5.00 to buy the 2nd ticket for the 2nd night at Bingley Hall B'Ham and pay her 50p a week back for 10 weeks, 50p was the whole of my pocket moneyper week, I've never regretted it once. I now couldn't afford to go both nights at the Apollo but can't however I can't ask my Mum for a loan but my visa will give me a months grace, I hope you can find the resourses for a ticket as it may be the last time you get the chance to see this band. PLEASE no more complaints, everyone in the UK on this list not already going to one of the 3 shows must be at the FINAL one. Best Wishes Terry "O" PS: Aleks, one day you will be in other peoples shoes, finacially more secure & able to do the things you can't do easily now, but remember most of us have been were you are now and worked bloody hard to be able to go to these shows. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Aleks Kocan To: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices > --- terrypaulrigz8c > > ANDY, > > COULDN'T AGREE MORE, GOT MINE BLK 24, ROW F, 18&19. > > THIS IS BRILLIANT!!!!!!! > > For those moaners, I hope theres enough dead Bears > > for you all, if not just > > share them! > > > > Terry "O" > > Well Terry, I'm sure that the whole list will > congratulate you in obtaining such "prized" tickets. > > Maybe, I also fall into the category of a "moaner", > but just don't forget that some members on this list > (especially maybe the younger ones) can't afford to > pay these sort of prices... > > Aleks > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:49:26 -0400 From: "Linda Epstein" Subject: [AVALON] Re: To Turn You On I have to agree with Therese. To Turn You On is one of my favorite Roxy Music tunes. My friends used that as "their song" at their wedding, and I could see it in their faces they were praying for them to play it this past summer at Merriweather. I kept warning them ahead of time the song wasn't going to be done, but they tried to keep a glimmer of hope. For my wedding, my husband and I made cds for everyone of our favorite "slow/love" tunes. And on it, of course, we had to put To Turn You On. It was great to see who of our friends/family were die-hard Roxy fans and had heard of the song! (that and Depeche Mode's "Somebody") Linda ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:05:52 +0100 From: "Rachel Smither" Subject: Re: [AVALON] London ticket prices - -----Original Message----- From: kevin routley To: avalon@smoe.org Date: 30 August 2001 19.59 Subject: [AVALON] London ticket prices >just seen the emails concerning the ticket prices for the 2 london shows. roxy /ferry are taking the piss. i thought the price of tickets for there tour [just gone] was over the top for most people but its a case of we packed out the venues so lets up the prices. i think a lot of fans will start moving on now as roxy/ferry are really letting the fans down.. expect to see lots of ferry stuff for sale on ebay soon...... > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:42:09 -0400 From: "ppavlock" Subject: Re: [AVALON] All your fears, now they seem so far away... As a 44 year old, trying to categorize what I listen to is difficult. I have been a beatle fan from a very young age. After a friends older brother indoctrinated us into very early Mott the Hoople and John Mayall in the late 60's early 70's, we ran the gamut from Humble Pie to the Mahavishnu Orchestra. Bowie and Roxy came along and further opened my ears. I went from the Bowie/Roxy camp to ones of Uriah Heep(really) then to the progs King Crimson,Genesis etc.I still listen to the same stuff but along the way I went through the punk age with the Pistols, Clash, Television, Patti Smith, Lou Reed(Velvets of course)Talking Heads all the while sticking to the Bowie/Roxy/Hunter stuff. I had and still do excursions on the wobbly rail to blues and jazz. My whole point being, a long time Roxy fan has a great appreciation to all kinds of music. Somewhat eccentric at times but that IS rock'n roll. Even now there are some contemporary sounds well worth listening to i.e Radiohead, Butthole Surfers, Los Lobos etc.... Jeff ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #417 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest