From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #416 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, August 30 2001 Volume 06 : Number 416 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] For Your Pleasure ["Tim Kendrick" ] Re: [AVALON] If I Didn't Care... ["David Squires " ] [AVALON] Re: The Explorers ["=?iso-8859-1?q?John=20O'Brien?=" ] Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On ["=?iso-8859-1?q?John=20O'Brien?=" ] Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On ["Therese O'Donnell" ] [AVALON] Remake-Remodel after rotterdam?... [Ktwicked@aol.com] [AVALON] X-Pensive Wino's ["James Anderson" ] Re: [AVALON] Remake-Remodel after rotterdam?... [Johnny Reece ] Re: [AVALON] 83 concerts, WHERE? ["Grant Goggans" ] Re: [AVALON] London dates!! ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On ["Grant Goggans" ] Re: [AVALON] London dates!! [andy.clique@btinternet.com] Re: [AVALON] If I Didn't Care... ["Grant Goggans" ] Re: [AVALON] London dates!! ["Simon Galloway" ] [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices [Aleks Kocan ] Re: [AVALON] London dates!! [Ktwicked@aol.com] [AVALON] London dates and dancing - WARNING [andy.clique@btinternet.com] Re: [AVALON] London dates!! [Ktwicked@aol.com] [AVALON] anybody going back from rotterdam to bruxelles on the night after the concert? [roxyli] Re: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices [Heather James ] [AVALON] london dates! [Ktwicked@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Re: The Explorers [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] London dates!! ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] London dates and dancing - WARNING [Jane Fraser Subject: Re: [AVALON] For Your Pleasure A belated note about FYP. Someone ( Simon Galloway?) said they'd misheard ' with every step a change' as ' I change.' Nothing compared to a mishearing I had of the second line for, well, years. I think I only worked out the reality two or three years ago. I guess I hadn't listened closely enough. I took 'part false, part true, like anything' to be 'we dance and move like anything' ! Not QUITE as horrific when you know the term 'like anything' is a standard English phrase. ( He laughed like anything, she danced like anything etc.) And I took it to be an arch reference to showbiz entertainment. Still, I like the original better! Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:19:15 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] If I Didn't Care... On 29 Aug 2001, at 19:32, David Firmin wrote: > If you are a fan of Manzanera and Mackay, I am > you'll like The Explorers as well. I don't David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:57:19 +0000 From: "Arthur Dillweed" Subject: Re: [AVALON] I agree Re: The Explorers >From: "David Squires " >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] If I Didn't Care... >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:19:15 +0100 > >On 29 Aug 2001, at 19:32, David Firmin wrote: > > > If you are a fan of Manzanera and Mackay, > >I am > > > you'll like The Explorers as well. > >I don't *I am of exactly the same mind Jacques Cartier (accompanied Giovanni da Verrazzano on unofficial explorations initiated by the king of France, 1524-ish) is damn overrated.* How dare DF be so inconsiderate as to make such a thoughtless suggestion eh!?! AD > >David >-- >David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:17:39 +0100 (BST) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?John=20O'Brien?=" Subject: [AVALON] Re: The Explorers --- David Firmin wrote: > Oh yes, I just bought The Complete Explorers from > Expression. James Wraith did a very good Ferry. Live > at the Palace is another great disc> For information on The Explorers and their recorded output look at the following web pages http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/680 http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/698 http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/448 http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/682 http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/681 http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/984 http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/989 http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/989 http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/2043 Regards John O'Brien ____________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:52:50 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] NO GRAPHICS ALLOWED! Well, no - there were no problems caused ... (I've got to learn to wink more broadly in my messages here) ... just deep frustration at not seeing Roxy slathered across a massive billboard in Chi-ca-go! - -= )-(eather =- AMeyersLD@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 8/29/01 9:40:22 AM, hjames@thewebgal.com writes: > ><< A BASIC FACT of the Avalon List > > You cannot send attachments into the list ... >> > >You are right! >My sincere apologies. >Sorry for any problems this created. >Andrew in Chicago > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:09:53 +0100 (BST) From: "=?iso-8859-1?q?John=20O'Brien?=" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On I thought To Turn You On sounded out of place on Avalon when the album was released. With the passing of time I hear it blending with the rest of the album better now and I am glad that it was included. I might have felt short changed at the time as Avalon was then, the longest space between Ferry or Roxy albums. To get only, after this period, 37 minutes that included 2 instrumentals and an old b-side gave me a wee negative bias to what I seen as the 'hanger-on' of the album. I hear the song differently now. I see this song as one of the best love songs Bryan has ever written. He displays some of his most expressive vocals ever. The way he sings the line "God help me" oozes emotion. Ferry sounds desperate here saying he will do anything to regain that lost love. " I could show you any world", "I would walk you through the park", "whatever", "Whenever". The sparse arrangement is exactly what the track needs. Neil Hubbard's solo is one of his more memorable moments on Roxy/Fery records and the cello at the fade out is refrain to be savoured. John O'Brien Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:34:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On - --- Mats Andersson wrote: > It's really a shame that To Turn You On took place > on Avalon. It makes a superduper-album feels > lowbudget. It's a while since I listened to Avalon, but "To Turn You On" was possibly my favourite track on that album. The lyrics really match the music and to me it really does have more meaning than some of the other tracks on the album. Having said that, I also thought that "True to life" was one of the better tracks... Aleks Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:42:48 +0000 From: "Therese O'Donnell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On This song has long been one of my favourites so I've been a bit surprised at some of the negative press it's received on the list. The first couple of lines in particular seem to me to pithily sum up the aim of the songwriter's art. I doubt my brother would agree with me about it's wondrousness. This may be due to him having had to endure me reciting various lines from it (while we were in Central Park NYC - it was too cheesy to let go)about him being blue and 5th Avenue and allsorts. I thought the earmuffs on his part were a bit much though. Anyway at the risk of starting a competitive SOTW to 'Casanova', I'll shut up - brevity being the sole of discretion. Cheers Therese _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:48:00 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On I always thought it was quite similar in sound and feel to A Really Good Time, although I reckon ARGT is the superior song! SimonG >>> Aleks Kocan 08/30 12:34 pm >>> > It's a while since I listened to Avalon, but "To Turn > You On" was possibly my favourite track on that album. > The lyrics really match the music and to me it really > does have more meaning than some of the other tracks > on the album. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 07:55:17 EDT From: Ktwicked@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Remake-Remodel after rotterdam?... hello, did i hear about a Remake-Remodel gig after the rotterdam concert? as me and dad are going to `ruff it` in the car all night as our next ferry home isnt till 7am ish it would be nice to go to it. does anyone have info where it is at etc? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 07:10:27 -0500 From: "James Anderson" Subject: [AVALON] X-Pensive Wino's ...Question: has anyone heard Keith Richards and the X-Pensive Winos? Waddy Wachtel was in that band. I'd like to hear him and Richards together. I was wondering if it was any good. Thanks, David Yes. I have both releases and I saw Keith when he toured with them in 1991 (?). Killer band. Waddy matched Keith note for note. It was hard to tell who played what. No not the Stones, but a junior version of band. Some of the songs could/should have been recorded by the Stones. In light of what the Stones released afterwards, the songs on Keith's albums fared much better. Jas ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 05:19:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnny Reece Subject: Re: [AVALON] Remake-Remodel after rotterdam?... Yep, the excellent Remake-Remodel are on after the Roxy Music 'Ahoy' gig - just around the corner, close to the Hilton hotel. They play at 'De Blauwe Vis', situated at : Weena (zuid) 33, in central Rotterdam. They will start at midnight. I imagine the usual suspects will attend. Reecey... Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:20:36 +0100 From: "Monique J Tillier" Subject: [AVALON] London dates!! Tickets are now available for 2 shows 1st and 2nd October at London Apollo Hammersmith - available from ticketmaster! (I've just booked mine). Good luck. Monique ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:32:03 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 83 concerts, WHERE? >Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:27:10 +0200 >From: "Joan" >Subject: [AVALON] 83 concerts, WHERE? > >Hi everybody > >After trying desesperately to get any boot from that era I have to >surrender >I think it's sad to be in a list like this and to be impossible to get a >bootleg, >even PAYING for a copy. > >Well, at least is what I think, what do you think about it? >I think if we all love Roxy Music we won't try to win money with anything >and we will try to share with other fans what we have got in our >collection, >don't we? > >I'm in other lists and a lots of boots fly everyday by mail and everybody >is >happy. (snip) >don't get me wrong, I was just thrilled when I discovered there are a lot >of >bootlegs from that era and asked a lot of people to try to get a copy. >I offer to swap for other bands' records (or the Psalm VCD, the only Roxy >rare thing i have) , and I haven't received answer from almost nobody >That's all How long have you been on this list? Three hours? Steve made an offer for Chicago 2001 on Monday and I made one for Flint 1976 yesterday. Sorry you missed them, and sorry they weren't the tour you wanted. How far did your desperation take you in hunting down 1983 tour shows? I see "Out of the Blue" on people's online *trade* lists (not bootleg archives) frequently. A copy with a sleeve I hadn't seen was on eBay last week. (I considered copying the sleeve for my Strictly Confidential Archive, but since it was such an awful sleeve -- the designer seemed to think the Manifesto tour band was playing in 83 -- I decided I'm close enough to running out of space as it is.) Have you been to alt.music.bootlegs? I read that newsgroup twice a day and I genuinely do not recall seeing a single request for a 1983 Roxy boot. Now, speaking of the Strictly Confidential Archive, I get more than my share of people who see my information/research guide, which is not a list of my collection, and send hyperactive missives begging me for copies. I can't speak for Heather and Chris's numbers, but I get about three a week, despite a damn clear disclaimer stating that the guide is an educational resource only and that if anyone bothers me for copies, I delete e-mails without reply. If I remember correctly, I've had one person who was a big fan of Andy Newmark write me twice -- perhaps you should keep an eye out for him or her; you might get along well. (I could go on for hours about how absolutely sick to the teeth I am about the flagrant rudeness and cheek of people on the Internet who just assume you have the will, the power, the resources, the ability and the time to just make their lives absolutely perfect without any work on their part. Fortunately for the list, I already have, in a rather livid, teeth-grinding, obscenity-filled "No, Grant, tell us what you really mean" rant which appears on my page at: http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion/hate.html . It further details the contempt I have for the people who ignored the disclaimer about Roxy bootlegs. You might enjoy reading it.) But I digress. Joan, I hate to tell you this, but you cannot reasonably and rationally sit with no Roxy rarities whatsoever and expect instantaneous service from everyone else at the click of a finger. Look, every month or so, I either help out with somebody else's tree, or start up a B&P/tree of my own. I do this because I like Roxy Music. Considerably more than half the people I make copies for do not have the ability to burn CDs, so that "if we... love Roxy Music we...will try to share" crack was out of line. See, I *am* looking for something specific. I got a complete Glasgow 1982 show from somebody once. The disc had a nasty error, unfortunately, and a month after I got it, it refused to play. I don't remember who I got it from. I saw it for sale once, when I met the Firefly guys at a flea market in North Carolina. Unfortunately, this was during the month my CD was working and I didn't need it. OH WELL. Nobody promised me a life of happiness and unlimited Glasgow concerts. So you know what I do? I work out trades and build a collection of *other* things. Once in a while, I might have to spend a little money and buy something. I help out with other people's deals when I can, so people think I'm a nice fellow. I will be patient. Maybe one day I'll have enough neat things so that when I see the show I want on somebody's list, I'll have enough in my cache for the fellow in question to swap with me. Bitching to Avalon about how I've "surrendered" is not in the plan. "We woke up 24 hours later. Yes was still playing. The same song." Grant Goggans http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:33:12 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates!! Buggers!!! I'm out of the country. Do you reckon they could reschedule for a week later? Harrumph!!! SimonG >>> "Monique J Tillier" 08/30 1:20 pm >>> Tickets are now available for 2 shows 1st and 2nd October at London Apollo Hammersmith - available from ticketmaster! (I've just booked mine). Good luck. Monique ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:36:38 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:03:01 +0200 >From: Mats Andersson >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On > >It's really a shame that To Turn You On took place >on Avalon. It makes a superduper-album feels lowbudget. >Why take a Bryan Ferry-solosong on a Roxyalbum? > >VERY disturbing. One might well ask why perform "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall," "Diamond Head" and "Wild Weekend" on a Roxy tour. Yet the band did at most of their 1975-76 concerts. "We woke up 24 hours later. Yes was still playing. The same song." Grant Goggans http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:45:23 +0100 (BST) From: andy.clique@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates!! I got 4th row middle Tuesday night #50 each - FANBLOODYTANTASTIC THANKS FOR THE TIP!! Andy Langley > Tickets are now available for 2 shows 1st and 2nd October at London Apollo > Hammersmith - available from ticketmaster! (I've just booked mine). Good > luck. > > Monique > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:46:00 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] If I Didn't Care... >Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 21:05:52 -0500 >From: "Rod LeCloux" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] If I Didn't Care... > >From: David Firmin > > > ..I wouldn't keep revisiting this subject. What I > > heard of Ferry in the 80s and 90s didn't make much of > > an impact. The Explorers were great in the 80s. > >Come on Dave you're digging yourself deeper and deeper on this subject. >"The Explorers were great in the 80's"? ha ha ha ha ha he he hehe hehe. > >They were impossible to find in the states with little to no promotion. More to the point, they never had an American record deal. I'm not sure who was meant to promote them to us. It wasn't until 1989 or so before the music was issued as the "Manzanera & Mackay" albums. It's really good music, and I enjoyed tracking down a few of the twelve-inchers when I was a vinyl junkie, but I didn't like the vocals, or the lyrics, or those ridiculous paint-your-faces designs. One of the old Rock Yearbooks blasted the album's sleeve as one of the worst of its year, and that people who had been in the business as long as Phil and Andy should have known better. Did any of the Explorers' material ever chart in England? "We woke up 24 hours later. Yes was still playing. The same song." Grant Goggans http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:03:21 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates!! Scrap that! I got it wrong, I'm a right daft b*stard!!! I'm in! >>> "Simon Galloway" 08/30 1:33 pm >>> Buggers!!! I'm out of the country. Do you reckon they could reschedule for a week later? Harrumph!!! SimonG >>> "Monique J Tillier" 08/30 1:20 pm >>> Tickets are now available for 2 shows 1st and 2nd October at London Apollo Hammersmith - available from ticketmaster! (I've just booked mine). Good luck. Monique ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:05:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices - --- andy.clique@btinternet.com wrote: > I got 4th row middle Tuesday night #50 each - > FANBLOODYTANTASTIC Well at 50 pounds/ticket I hope it will be fantastic for you. OK the Hammersmith Apollo may be a small venue, but I really think that Roxy are taking the p*** with these sort of ticket prices. Having said that I'd probably go for it if I was in London, but I still think the ticket prices are ridiculous. No doubt it will sell out regardless.. Aleks Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:09:33 EDT From: Ktwicked@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates!! at this very moment im begging dad to take me! time to turn on the puppy eyes! katiex ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:11:00 +0100 (BST) From: andy.clique@btinternet.com Subject: [AVALON] London dates and dancing - WARNING As I said, I have seat 19&20 row D Tuesday night I shall be standing up, screaming, trying to sing and dancing the entire time so please do not book a seat directly behind me if you intend to sit like a fat pudding for the duration. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED :) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:17:58 EDT From: Ktwicked@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates!! now hes saying ask mum........oh please........................... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: 30 Aug 2001 12:34:59 -0000 From: roxylia@freemail.it () Subject: [AVALON] anybody going back from rotterdam to bruxelles on the night after the concert? Dear all, I apologize for using the list for pratical purposes. Danilo and I would like to attend the Rotterdam gig and the after-party. We're flying down to Bruxelles and we're reaching Rotterdam by train. But we have the absolute need to catch the flight back from Bruxelles at 6 a.m. so that we can be at work on the 14th here. The problem is that there are no trains at night between Rotterdam and Bruxelles. Therefore we would like to ask if anybody could help us in suggesting a solution (different from "stay home") e.g. if anybody is driving back form Rotterdam on that night and meets the Bruxelles airport on his way home and could take us there. Please answer privately at the account Thank you in advance, Cecilia in Venice, Italy - ----------------------------------------------------- messaggio inviato con Freemail by superEva http://www.supereva.it - ----------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:22:47 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices Wow - you folks have been hit with prices like the Americans got hit with ... Tickets at Merriweather Post Pavilion (Maryland, close to Wash DC) ran me $76 each ... Of course I paid it and didn't complain ... but it was a bit pricey compared to the $35 per ticket cost of the other two shows I caught this summer (Lyle Lovett and later YES with Symphony orchestra) ... -= )-(eather =- Aleks Kocan wrote: >--- andy.clique@btinternet.com wrote: > >>I got 4th row middle Tuesday night #50 each - >>FANBLOODYTANTASTIC >> > >Well at 50 pounds/ticket I hope it will be fantastic >for you. OK the Hammersmith Apollo may be a small >venue, but I really think that Roxy are taking the >p*** with these sort of ticket prices. > >Having said that I'd probably go for it if I was in >London, but I still think the ticket prices are >ridiculous. > >No doubt it will sell out regardless.. > >Aleks >Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:27:01 -0500 From: "Jankiewicz, Jim" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Boys and Girls I'd like to add a bit more to this 'sidebar' debate (weren't we trying to move on from FYP to Casanova?) In light of the obvious camps of 70's Roxy vs(?) 80's Roxy/BF-solo material, may I suggest that B&G is too "ethereal" for most? A lot of ethereal (look it up ) music is out there and by and large it is not mainstream and/or popular. Since BF veered into this haunting realm from roughly F&B on it follows most of his early fans would not appreciate it. Personally, I am rather taken by music like this that affects me a certain way but I can see where it is not for everyone. Hence, that explains to me the negative reaction to the Avalon/B&G/Bete Noire material by a lot of folks on this list. Roxy in the 80's was a totally diff group than the Remake/Remodel & Amazona guys. I am tempted to go one more on this ethereal bent, i.e, examples, opinions, whys, etc. but I think that may get waaay too off-topic for this list. Just consider the ethereal angle. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:38:44 +0100 From: Rosalind Bull Subject: RE: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices Yes this #50 per ticket lark is unfortunate as a number of my friends who wanted to come won't/can't pay those sorts of prices. I have never actually paid so much for a single music event in my entire life (i.e. excluding the Fleadh etc), and can't quite see how 80 odd minutes can justify those prices. The Apollo is my local and I have stood on a number of occasions but I can't remember paying more than a tenner to do it - #30 to stand? I am torn between stumping up because I can afford it really and telling them they can go stick their heads up a dead bear's bum. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 06:46:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:To Turn You On - --- John O'Brien wrote: > I see this song as one of the best love songs Bryan > has ever written. He displays some of his most > expressive vocals ever. The way he sings the line > "God > help me" oozes emotion. > "I could show you any world", "I would walk you > through > the park", "whatever", "Whenever". Absolutely true - this is one track that "really takes you there" Aleks Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:45:58 EDT From: Ktwicked@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] london dates! yes! puppy eyes seem to be working so far! think i'll be popping along to hammersmith! katiex ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 07:00:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: The Explorers Thank you, I'm glad to see The Explorers acknowledged. Instead of disregarding them, I think Roxy fans should give them a listen. I do have all their releases. I got Crack The Whip and Up In Smoke for 99 cents each! I still listen to them all the time. It's music that grows on you. I must say, first and foremost I am an Andy Mackay fan, so maybe that has swayed my opinion. They do a great version of 'Out Of The Blue' on Live at the Palace (Camden). It was a sad time for Manzanera and Mackay, because they wanted to prove that they could be credible musicians without being under Bryan Ferry's shadow. Too bad more people didn't get to hear this under appreciated band. - --- John O'Brien wrote: > For information on The Explorers and their recorded > output look at the following web pages > > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/680 > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/698 > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/448 > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/682 > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/681 > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/984 > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/989 > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/989 > http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/2043 > > Regards John O'Brien > > > > > > ____________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at > http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at > http://mail.yahoo.ie > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:19:14 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates!! Good work Monique. Thank you. Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monique J Tillier" To: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: [AVALON] London dates!! > Tickets are now available for 2 shows 1st and 2nd October at London Apollo > Hammersmith - available from ticketmaster! (I've just booked mine). Good > luck. > > Monique ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:31:43 +0100 From: Jane Fraser Subject: Re: [AVALON] London dates and dancing - WARNING on 30/8/01 2:11 pm, andy.clique@btinternet.com at andy.clique@btinternet.com wrote: > As I said, I have seat 19&20 row D Tuesday night I'm almost next to you - row D 14 & 15 > > I shall be standing up, screaming, trying to sing and dancing the entire time > so please do not book a seat directly behind me if you intend to sit like a > fat pudding for the duration. Ditto. #50 is a bit steep but what the hell..... > Thanks to Monique and the List for the info!! Jane > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:33:33 EDT From: KarenASwenson@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: The Explorers Coincidentally, I got my first taste of The Explorers yesterday when Up In Smoke came in the mail. After two listenings, I'm not very impressed. Musicianship is pretty good, which is the least I'd expect from Mack and the Man--they're kind of stuck in an Avalon-era groove. The songwriting is not memorable, and Wraith's Ferry-esque posings are kind of pitiful. Also, the fadeouts are clumsy. Then again, my long-term fiance Steve is piping up in the background that the percussion is excellent, and this particular track, Lorelei, is reminiscent of later Echo & the Bunnymen and Clash--perfect club music. It's listenable, but I'd take 801 or Phil's/Andy's other stuff over this any day. Karen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:36:14 +0100 (BST) From: andy.clique@btinternet.com Subject: RE: [AVALON] London dates/ticket prices Good grief, what is wrong with you.... Fifty quid, what's that... 3 CDs, a couple of bottles of whisky, a new shirt, a few lousy illegal drugs, five Viagra, whatever OR An hour and a half of sheer unadulterated ecstacy listening, probably for the last ever time ROXY MUSIC live, in the flesh, for real!! A BARGAIN regards Andy Langley > Yes this #50 per ticket lark is unfortunate as a number of my friends who > wanted to come won't/can't pay those sorts of prices. I have never actually > paid so much for a single music event in my entire life (i.e. excluding the > Fleadh etc), and can't quite see how 80 odd minutes can justify those > prices. The Apollo is my local and I have stood on a number of occasions > but I can't remember paying more than a tenner to do it - #30 to stand? > > I am torn between stumping up because I can afford it really and telling > them they can go stick their heads up a dead bear's bum. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:36:50 -0500 From: "Jankiewicz, Jim" Subject: RE: [AVALON] To Turn You On I would like to add a comment on the instrumentation particularly the marvelous, almost dissonant into. The initial notes make it stand out from the rest of Avalon (hence giving the overall album more 'texture') and then the interplay of guitar/bass builds an awesome tension to segue into the song. Great song and arrangement. I love intros like that! It is one song that announces itself nicely - like it or not, It Is Coming Through! Something's Coming. Along with the intro to Both Ends Burning, I submit it is the best RM/BF intro. Hmm, of course I like the way Remake/Remodel starts too..... hmm > I see this song as one of the best love songs Bryan has ever written. He displays some of his most expressive vocals ever. The way he sings the line "God help me" oozes emotion. "I could show you any world", "I would walk you through the park", "whatever", "Whenever". ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #416 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest