From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #413 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, August 29 2001 Volume 06 : Number 413 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live ["Ann Marie Shaw" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live ["Ann Marie Shaw" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live ["Judy Kaufman" ] [AVALON] a plea [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] p.s. [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] Flint 1976 -- B&P/tree offer ["Grant Goggans" ] Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live [AMeyersLD@aol.com] [AVALON] Billboard [AMeyersLD@aol.com] [AVALON] NO GRAPHICS ALLOWED! [Heather James ] [AVALON] Song of the Week ["Nigel Hollis" ] Re: [AVALON] If I Didn't Care... [David Firmin ] [AVALON] manchester/glasgow tickets ["Duncan Watkins" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live [KWil632057@aol.com] [AVALON] Any video from BF tour 94/95? ["Stefan Thomsen" ] Re: [AVALON] You're So Vain ["gudcat" ] Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls ["Will Frechette" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live ["Tim Kendrick" ] Re: [AVALON] a plea ["anotherphotographer" ] Re: [AVALON] Any video from BF tour 94/95? ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Rick Marotta [Richard Evans ] [AVALON] Re: To Like ,Dislike [MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.)] Re: [AVALON] Ferry/Roxy Covers Project [Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live > "thom.wallace" wrote: > >but then so does >baseball and it's equally as crap as >Madge. > > >Cheers, > > >Tom. > > > > Might be better do yer drinkin' *after* you post to the group, mate. > > > > Paul in Milwaukee > >Don't you mean you'd have to be Pi***d as a newt to appreciate either. > >Tom in Scotland. Enlighten us oh grumpy one, tell us which baseball game that you went to see that you saw something about the match that the other 69,999 people didn't see and foolishly went home thinking they enjoyed the game. Ann Marie >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:18:38 +0000 From: "Ann Marie Shaw" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live > "thom.wallace" wrote: > >but then so does >baseball and it's equally as crap as >Madge. > > >Cheers, > > >Tom. > > > > Might be better do yer drinkin' *after* you post to the group, mate. > > > > Paul in Milwaukee > >Don't you mean you'd have to be Pi***d as a newt to appreciate either. > >Tom in Scotland. Enlighten us oh grumpy one, tell us which baseball game that you went to see that you saw something about the match that the other 69,999 people didn't see and foolishly went home thinking they enjoyed the game. Ann Marie >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 04:33:34 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live From thom wallace: . . . but then so does baseball and it's equally as crap as >Madge. From Tom in Scotland: Don't you mean you'd have to be Pi***d as a newt to appreciate either. From Ann Marie Shaw: >Enlighten us oh grumpy one, tell us which baseball game that you went to >see >that you saw something about the match that the other 69,999 people didn't >see and foolishly went home thinking they enjoyed the game. Gotta agree with Thom & Tom on this one. One of the worst days of my life was spent at a double-header at the Houston Astrodome. The players seemed to do more scratching and spitting than playing. Give me basketball or heavy-weight boxing any day. As for Madookie - Yuuuuuuck - a brilliant self-promoter, but imo, otherwise talentless. Judy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:26:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] a plea Martin wrote: > Is anyone remotely interested in David's poisonous, ill-informed > heckling? A Roxy fan who doesn't own Boys and Girls, thinks BSB is > rockier than Bete Noire, eulogizes Queen and clogs up our list > discussing Pipes of Peace. Help ME. Which leads me to ask: is anyone here remotely interested in Roxy Music and/or Bryan Ferry? Please don't suggest that I just delete off-topic posts for it should be obvious that is one thing to complain about not wanting to read on-topic posts and quite another to complain about a multitude off-topic ones. This list is for Roxy/Ferry topics and the list's traffic has picked up considerably and remained high, and adding to that with unrelated topics which might better be handled via private, off-list, email or another mailing list and/or newsgroup, etc., isn't good netiquette. By signing up for this list, I did agree to put up with the on-topic stuff, but I did not ask for a daily slew of posts about things I have no interest in, and accordingly have not signed for for a mailing list about. I can't imagine I'm alone in this feeling. If you have joined this list and most--if not all--of your contributions to it are not Roxy/Ferry related, you might reconsider your participation and/or presence on this list as well as the proper use of private email or a search for the appropriate forum for topics of real interest to you. Thanks. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:30:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] p.s. It should be obvious, but one thing I've learned after nearly a decade of being on-line is that it usually isn't in cases like this, that of course everyone goes off-topic from time to time. But there is an enormous difference between someone who has primarily contributed on-topic discussion and information and adds a tangent or two every now and then, and contributions which are almost solely off-topic. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:28:17 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Flint 1976 -- B&P/tree offer Hey everyone The B&Ps/CD trees I've done earlier this year went off fairly decently, so I'm doing a new B&P offer. It's a March, 1976 Roxy Music performance from Flint, Michigan, for which I have made artwork and titled A PLEASANT PENINSULA. It is a pretty decent audience recording, with a couple of pops and fluctuations but very listenable. I've sent, ah, "pre-release" copies of this show to four people already this month. Since I'm neither willing nor able to make copies indefinitely, I will only be doing a further EIGHT, with the caveat that at least three people who take this disc will then publically offer at least a few copies as well. If you'd like a copy, then just E-mail me directly at gmslegion@hotmail.com and reserve your space in the tree. Please watch your reply-to and don't send back to the list. Indicate whether you're willing to make copies. Once I have eight names and at least three of them are people who will also make copies, then I will e-mail Avalon to say it's closed. I'll then e-mail my eight with further details and the artwork. Ideally, the copiers will then announce their "copiability." (fingers crossed) The eight who are getting the disc from me must be willing to send me a self-addressed stamped envelope and either $1 cash or a blank CD-R. If you send me a CD-R I will record on it; if you send $1 you'll get one of my blanks. If you have access to Mitsui Gold, which none of the local stores carry, I recommend using those since everyone seems to swear they're the best; but always use good media. Store brands are baaaaaad. (So, third time I've asked, but does anyone have a complete Glasgow September '82, aka "Words of Sand" on Firefly Records, that they wanna trade?) Have a great day and remember, write *me*, not the list. Grant _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:04:15 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #412 >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:06:28 +0100 >From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pros and Cons >Hmm, there seems to be a bit of Michael Jackson phobia here! Jacko covered >Girlfriend from 'London Town' and contributed vocals to two tracks on >'Pipes >Of Peace'... You're right. I do have a horrible phobia of Michael Jackson, who frightens me, and whose presence on this Earth would be greatly improved by being locked in a steamer trunk. I dislike those albums for a host of other reasons that don't involve Michael Jackson, however. "Wings at the Speed of Sound" is crap, too. >Another 'POP' contributor was none other than Andy Mackay, who >also made an appearance on Macca's 'Tug Of War'. Thankfully NOT playing on >Ebony And Ivory. Yeah, well, Andy was also on Arcadia's "So Red the Rose" -- Phil too, perhaps -- and I'm in no rush to get that on CD, either. "We woke up 24 hours later. Yes was still playing. The same song." Grant Goggans http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 06:33:28 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls I'm glad someone has been reading ALL my posts. - --- Martin Stockman wrote: > Is anyone remotely interested in David's poisonous, > ill-informed heckling ? > A Roxy fan who doesn't own Boys and Girls, thinks > BSB is rockier than Bete > Noire, eulogizes Queen and clogs up our list > discussing Pipes of Peace. Help > ME. > > > ---------- > From: David Firmin > To: > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls > Date: Mon, Aug 27, 2001, 11:28 pm > > > When you say "re-producing the same old guff", I > think of how Ferry rehashed > Avalon on all his subsequent albums. ATGB broke that > mold and came out of > left field. > > I was happy when I heard that Ferry's new album will > be a rocker along the > lines of TBSB. > > If it's any indication from the current tour, things > are looking up! > > David > > > on 8/27/01 4:02 PM, Philip Adams at > philipcadams@lineone.net wrote: > > > ----- David, thats 21 years. I would be > disappointed if Ferry kept > > re-producing the same old guff. About 18 albums > in 30 odd years, each one > > still wholly listenable, never dated, and , yes > different from the rest. > > > > Philip > > > >> . I've always been skeptical about > >> anything between TBSB and ATGB. > >> > >> Note > > > *** > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > ===== Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:38:22 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls I quite agree with you, Martin. How is it possible for someone, who readily confesses he has not listened to "the 80's" stuff, to be so adamant about giving it a try? Go ahead, David - try it - you just may like it! Put your preconceived notions, prejudices, and misgivings aside. Relax, be flexible, remember - - BF solo is not RM - and really listen to Boys and Girls, Bete Noire, and "90's" Mamouna with open ears and mind. Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:58:30 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live I love the seventh inning stretch! Take me out to the ball game, take me out to the crowd. Buy me some peanuts and Cracker Jacks, I don't care if I never get back. So, let's root, root, root for the home team. If they don't win its a shame, for it's once, twice, three times 'yer out' at the old ball game! Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's play ball! The above is my off topic banter for today. Hope All of you enjoyed it as much as I did. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:00:15 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live In a message dated 8/29/01 4:35:31 AM, jlbk01im@hotmail.com writes: << Gotta agree with Thom & Tom on this one. One of the worst days of my life was spent at a double-header at the Houston Astrodome. The players seemed to do more scratching and spitting than playing. >> As opposed to those fast moving games, like cricket..... Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:24:23 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Billboard Hello, all! Enclosed are the photos of the infamous Roxy Billboard off Highway 90 west of Chicago. The photos are taken from the shoulder, in heavy traffic, with my Mother shreiking at me "What the hell are you taking a picture of? You're going to be killed!" The reason I did not post this earlier is that the Roxy billboard is second billboard, unfortunately hard to see. If anyone can clean this up and use it, it is yours (but you owe me a drink if it gets published...) Andrew in Chicago [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of P1010003.JPG+.sit] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:38:54 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: [AVALON] NO GRAPHICS ALLOWED! A BASIC FACT of the Avalon List You cannot send attachments into the list ... this protects us from viruses, MACRO attacks and who knows what kind of wrong-thinking. It also means no one can send out images or documents ... Best to put your photo on your webpage, or send it up to Chris or someone with a website who can and will host your image ... -= )-(eather =- AMeyersLD@aol.com wrote: >Hello, all! >Enclosed are the photos of the infamous Roxy Billboard off Highway 90 west of >Chicago. The photos are taken from the shoulder, in heavy traffic, with my >Mother shreiking at me "What the hell are you taking a picture of? You're >going to be killed!" >The reason I did not post this earlier is that the Roxy billboard is second >billboard, unfortunately hard to see. >If anyone can clean this up and use it, it is yours (but you owe me a drink >if it gets published...) >Andrew in Chicago > >[demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of P1010003.JPG+.sit] > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:09:02 +0100 From: "Nigel Hollis" Subject: [AVALON] Song of the Week Colleen wrote :- "Maybe I've been living in Washington, DC too long, but don't requests like this customarily come with a bribe?" Ssshhhh....yes.....but just think what we could call the inevitable expose .....The Bribe Stripped Bare! Nigel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:31:49 +0000 From: "Tara Rogers" Subject: [AVALON] Re:Tattoo You I will post pics as soon as it is healed, about a week, I'm guessing. Probably sooner as it is already bloody itchy this morning (good sign, for those of you who have never had one). Keith (hi, BTW), it's of the fleur de lyse Bryan used as his logo on the '99 tour, it's the exact composite of it from his old website. And on side of it is an R, the other an M, done in Vladimir Script writing--not as gothic as it sounds, don't worry. Yellow-gold in color with a black outline, also. And it resides proudly on my chest. And, no, the pictures won't be graphic ;) Take care; Tara :) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:43:03 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] If I Didn't Care... ..I wouldn't keep revisiting this subject. What I heard of Ferry in the 80s and 90s didn't make much of an impact. The Explorers were great in the 80s. Concrete Blonde was great in the 90s. Roxy Music is great in 2001. The problem I have is that certain people can't differentiate Bryan's solo career from Roxy Music. Sure a Roxy fan doesn't have to own Boys and Girls, because it's not Roxy Music. A Roxy fan should own In Your Mind because it basically is Roxy Music minus Andy Mackay. Some may see my postings as poisonous, ill-informed heckling, but if I just praise everything Bryan has done, there's is little room for (heated) discussion. Lighten up and have some fun :) Thanks, David - --- Martin Stockman wrote: > Is anyone remotely interested in David's poisonous, > ill-informed heckling ? > A Roxy fan who doesn't own Boys and Girls, thinks > BSB is rockier than Bete > Noire, eulogizes Queen and clogs up our list > discussing Pipes of Peace. Help > ME. > > > ---------- > From: David Firmin > To: > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls > Date: Mon, Aug 27, 2001, 11:28 pm > > > When you say "re-producing the same old guff", I > think of how Ferry rehashed > Avalon on all his subsequent albums. ATGB broke that > mold and came out of > left field. > > I was happy when I heard that Ferry's new album will > be a rocker along the > lines of TBSB. > > If it's any indication from the current tour, things > are looking up! > > David > > > on 8/27/01 4:02 PM, Philip Adams at > philipcadams@lineone.net wrote: > > > ----- David, thats 21 years. I would be > disappointed if Ferry kept > > re-producing the same old guff. About 18 albums > in 30 odd years, each one > > still wholly listenable, never dated, and , yes > different from the rest. > > > > Philip > > > >> . I've always been skeptical about > >> anything between TBSB and ATGB. > >> > >> Note *** ===== Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:42:18 +0100 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: [AVALON] manchester/glasgow tickets if anybody still needs tickets for the manchester/glasgow shows i have one spare for each in very good positions. manchester block b row e(5 rows from the front) glasgow block ii row a(front row) please e-mail me off list if interested,i'd like them to go to a good home! duncan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 10:09:39 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry Reviews For honest Roxy Music and Bryan Ferry reviews I like to go to this site: http://starling.rinet.ru/music/roxy.htm Note: This page is not written from the point of view of a Roxy Music fanatic and is not generally intended for narrow-perspective Roxy Music fanatics. If you are deeply offended by criticism, non-worshipping approach to your favourite artist, or opinions that do not match your own, do not visit this site. Another place for excellent reviews is http://allmusic.com/ Thanks, David *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:22:03 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann Marie Shaw To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live > Enlighten us oh grumpy one, tell us which baseball game that you went to see > that you saw something about the match that the other 69,999 people didn't > see and foolishly went home thinking they enjoyed the game. They show US baseball late at night in the UK, it's really boring stuff. So what if 69,999 people went to see a glorified game of rounders, btw because they enjoyed it does not really give an indication of whether it's really any good or not. Millions of young girls bought records by the Bay City Rollers, but the truth was they were crap.Sadly my dear quantity doesn't always equal quality. Bye, bye. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:40:42 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live The happy world of Avalon continues on its witty and stylish way..... Jonathan ps. We have cricket in this country that is easily the most tedious sport but, if people enjoy it we'll let them be and smile, eh Thom? In a message dated 29/08/01 18:21:54 GMT Daylight Time, thom.wallace@ntlworld.com writes: > > Enlighten us oh grumpy one, tell us which baseball game that you went to > see > > that you saw something about the match that the other 69,999 people didn't > > see and foolishly went home thinking they enjoyed the game. > > They show US baseball late at night in the UK, it's really boring stuff. So > what if 69,999 people went to see a glorified game of rounders, btw because > they enjoyed it does not really give an indication of whether it's really > any good or not. Millions of young girls bought records by the Bay City > Rollers, but the truth was they were crap.Sadly my dear quantity doesn't > always equal quality. > > Bye, bye. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:49:56 +0200 From: "Stefan Thomsen" Subject: [AVALON] Any video from BF tour 94/95? Is there any video from the 94/95 BF tour? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:58:23 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Flint 76 CLOSED I have reached my limit and the initial sign-up for Flint 1976 is closed. Other people may soon be making the offer available. Thanks for everyone's interest! "We woke up 24 hours later. Yes was still playing. The same song." Grant Goggans http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:02:03 +0100 From: "gudcat" Subject: Re: [AVALON] You're So Vain Yes,it was about Mr Beatty. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Shearer To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] You're So Vain > I could be wrong but I think Jagger did backing vocals on it and it was > about Beatty. > > Andrew > > > >From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" > >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org > >To: > >Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Casanova" > >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:02:46 +1000 > > > >I thought "You're So Vain" was about Warren Beatty?> > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > >The subliminable footer says: > > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >The subliminable footer says: > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:05:02 -0500 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls You the Man Martin! Will - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Stockman" > Is anyone remotely interested in David's poisonous, ill-informed heckling ? > A Roxy fan who doesn't own Boys and Girls, thinks BSB is rockier than Bete > Noire, eulogizes Queen and clogs up our list discussing Pipes of Peace. Help > ME. > > > ---------- > From: David Firmin > To: > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls > Date: Mon, Aug 27, 2001, 11:28 pm > > > When you say "re-producing the same old guff", I think of how Ferry rehashed > Avalon on all his subsequent albums. ATGB broke that mold and came out of > left field. > > I was happy when I heard that Ferry's new album will be a rocker along the > lines of TBSB. > > If it's any indication from the current tour, things are looking up! > > David > > > on 8/27/01 4:02 PM, Philip Adams at philipcadams@lineone.net wrote: > > > ----- David, thats 21 years. I would be disappointed if Ferry kept > > re-producing the same old guff. About 18 albums in 30 odd years, each one > > still wholly listenable, never dated, and , yes different from the rest. > > > > Philip > > > >> . I've always been skeptical about > >> anything between TBSB and ATGB. > >> > >> Note > > > *** > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:07:39 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live , btw because >they enjoyed it does not really give an indication of whether it's really >any good or not. Millions of young girls bought records by the Bay City >Rollers, but the truth was they were crap.Sadly my dear quantity doesn't >always equal quality. > >Bye, bye. Ah, but this is a slippery slope. I speak as someone who shared his life for five years with a remarkably gifted musician, who detested Bryan Ferry because Ferry's music was to him banal, commercial crap. In fact, I don't think he saw any difference at all between Roxy and the Bay City Rollers. I hasten to say I disagreed with him then as now.While I would rather know more than less about music than I do, to be able to read it faster than a snail and to pick out details of a classical interpretation or a jazz solo which I am simply not knowledgable enough hear, I do think that there are levels of technical understanding which can actually prevent appreciation of (some) good art. I know a handful of good classical musicians who see no worth in pop music at all, and I think it's a loss on their part. ( Though with great gains, as I said.) So in one sense their appreciation is actually narrower than mine. But I still find it a little chilling, (sorry,) to read posts from people who, when they talk about music, mean pop music exclusively. In the end I'd rather appreciate Mahler than the Pixies. I'm uncomfortable with a culture in which, say, 'The Seventies' means simply Punk and Glam, and not also Britten's DEATH IN VENICE and Norman Granz' Pablo Jazz label. There is a vast array of adventure and experience to be had. I guess the ideal, accepting one's own intellectual limitations, must be to have as wide a range of artistic experience as possible, to explore as far as possible. So I like and listen to Ferry and Billie Holiday and Mozart and Britten and B.B. King and Tom Waits and George Jones. Incidentally, my aforementioned ex thought Kate Bush a good and inventive musician, and thought Tom Waits worthwhile too. He saw Ferry as a much more ordinary talent than they, partly because he missed the point that Ferry's talent wasn't really about music per se. Which reminds me, browsing in the ( British) Musicians' Union handbook a few years ago, I was interested to see that both Bryan and Kate ( and, Martin Stockman will be pleased to note, Sting,) list themselves under the category 'composer'. Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:20:01 +0100 From: "anotherphotographer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] a plea You are not, my dear. regards young ernie - ----- Original Message ----- From: Colleen Matan To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:26 AM Subject: [AVALON] a plea > Martin wrote: > > > Is anyone remotely interested in David's poisonous, ill-informed > > heckling? A Roxy fan who doesn't own Boys and Girls, thinks BSB is > > rockier than Bete Noire, eulogizes Queen and clogs up our list > > discussing Pipes of Peace. Help ME. > > Which leads me to ask: is anyone here remotely interested in Roxy Music > and/or Bryan Ferry? > > Please don't suggest that I just delete off-topic posts for it should be > obvious that is one thing to complain about not wanting to read on-topic > posts and quite another to complain about a multitude off-topic ones. > This list is for Roxy/Ferry topics and the list's traffic has picked up > considerably and remained high, and adding to that with unrelated topics > which might better be handled via private, off-list, email or another > mailing list and/or newsgroup, etc., isn't good netiquette. By signing up > for this list, I did agree to put up with the on-topic stuff, but I did > not ask for a daily slew of posts about things I have no interest in, and > accordingly have not signed for for a mailing list about. I can't imagine > I'm alone in this feeling. > > If you have joined this list and most--if not all--of your contributions > to it are not Roxy/Ferry related, you might reconsider your participation > and/or presence on this list as well as the proper use of private email or > a search for the appropriate forum for topics of real interest to you. > > Thanks. > > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:24:40 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] What Goes On It's been discussed how Roxy didn't adequately advertise the reunion or tour. Case in point - Pedro who just signed my Roxy guestbook: >Good site, pitty they broke after some years, but the history remains! *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:39:00 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Any video from BF tour 94/95? It's funny you should say that...watch this space.... Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Thomsen" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:49 PM Subject: [AVALON] Any video from BF tour 94/95? > Is there any video from the 94/95 BF tour? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:41:55 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] What Goes On It was not up to Roxy to advertise the tour - that is the promoter's job. Roxy's job is to turn up and play. Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Firmin" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:24 PM Subject: [AVALON] What Goes On > It's been discussed how Roxy didn't adequately advertise the reunion or > tour. Case in point - Pedro who just signed my Roxy guestbook: ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:40:50 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Rick Marotta Rick is a great drummer although I do prefer AN's work on Avalon. As much I as I love TTYO I just work out why the Avalon band didn't re-record it. Musically it sounds out place. Cheers Richard NP New Order Get Ready - its pretty good David Firmin wrote: > You are right! I guess he just got lost in the mix. > > Lately, I have decided to venture out of my "comfort zone". I gave Bride a > spin and was amazed at how great that band was. I don't care for most of the > stuff without PT, but Marotta is a great drummer. Too bad Ferry didn't > utilize him more on Avalon. > > Thanks, > David > > on 8/27/01 1:53 PM, OBrienFerry@aol.com at OBrienFerry@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 27/08/01 19:17:13 GMT Daylight Time, eddieriff@yahoo.com > > writes: > > > > << Note: Rick Marotta kicked ass on Ferry's Bride. > >>> > > He played on your fav. album too David, Avalon (To Turn You On) > > > > J.O'B. > > *** > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:42:28 -0500 (CDT) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: To Like ,Dislike I like most any kind of music but do find it hard to listen to country. Some ok but a little for me goes a long way. I'd hate to just have solely Ferry-Roxy as my only collection, just as I'd hate to have only one book in my library. To continue to grow & learn we need many facets to our life's or one becomes stagnate or should I just be so bold & just say "stupid'" . Life is a continuing learning experience from all our being, in all we do & say.------ Now, does anyone have or know of anything available from the Mamouna tour ( an entire concert )? Marlana....................................................... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:47:45 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry/Roxy Covers Project Simon I have a very good Yamaha Elec drum kit and enjoying myself playing along (not too badly) to Kiss The Past Goodnight etc. I also have a keyboard which does most things but I am a real beginner contenting myself with a Pet Sounds songbook and doing my best Brian Wilson impressions. (I;ve mastered Caroline No Would be happy to contribute although I just can't sing Can someone help Cheers Richard SIMON GALLOWAY wrote: > A list tribute project is something I have often thought of and I have > contributed to similar projects in the past (David Bowie and The Posies). > It's a great idea as I've always thought that there must be quite a number > of musicians and songwriters amongst us... which leads to another idea of a > related poject - Original music by list members. Who wants to reveal all eh? > ;-) > > SimonG > > ---------- > >From: Rickmond Wong > >To: avalon@smoe.org > >Subject: [AVALON] Ferry/Roxy Covers Project > >Date: Mon, Aug 27, 2001, 9:54 am > > > > > Hey friends, > > > > Has there ever been an Avalonia CD tree of Roxy/Ferry > > tunes covered by us fans? I was thinking maybe we can > > follow in the footsteps of several other lists, (i.e. > > the one for Aztec Camera) in which fans recorded their > > own interpretations of the artists's songs, not for > > profit or anything, but just something to be tree'd > > out and shared with one another. I for one am a > > working musician/singer/songwriter who would love to > > organize and put this thing together. Are there any > > other musicians on this list who might be interested > > in contributing songs to such a project? If anybody > > wanna do some tracks and send them to me, I can put it > > together, right down to the CD burns and all. I can > > even produce/mix for whomever in my little home studio > > here, if need be. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #413 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest