From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #409 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, August 27 2001 Volume 06 : Number 409 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Re: (the first) SOTW...FYP [Michael Hill ] Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 Offer [Steve Bigalk ] [AVALON] FYP, held over by popular demand [KB Porter ] [AVALON] Chicago 2001 CLOSED ["Strimples" ] RE: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 Offer ["Jankiewicz, Jim" ] Re: [AVALON] The Tubes [Louis Simone ] [AVALON] Essence of Bryan ["Eman 97" ] Re: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 CLOSED [KarenASwenson@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 CLOSED [KarenASwenson@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] The Tubes ["David Markfield" ] RE: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 Offer [Maggie Curran ] [AVALON] windy city Chicago 2001 Offer ["the bogus man" ] [AVALON] Ferry the Lyric Machine ["Eman 97" ] [AVALON] Fan covers ["Eman 97" ] [AVALON] Guilty Pleasure [ASchulberg@aol.com] [AVALON] Re: HBO Live [MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.)] Re: [AVALON] Re: Rick Marotta [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls ["Philip Adams" ] Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls ["Philip Adams" ] Re: [AVALON] CONCERTO for 14.99? ["thom.wallace" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live ["thom.wallace" ] Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Casanova" ["Sally-Ann Barbera" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:55:41 +0100 From: Michael Hill Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: (the first) SOTW...FYP I must agree that The Ninth Wave is great for sending oneself into a dream-like state- I have, however, often woke up with a fright on hearing the "wake up" section followed by the Exorcist-esque Waking the Witch! Of Roxy's stuff,I find I can drift off to Tara, if I'm in a relaxed mood, otherwise it makes me cry! I found I needed a kleenex moment when I heard it at Glasgow. More than This has this effect on me too, very soothing before bedtime. Lust by Tori Amos is incredibly soothing, a veritable aural feast. But I think Mamouna is the ultimate whole album to listen to when you want to drift off-it's like visiting another planet for 50 minutes! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:56:27 +0100 From: "Jane Collard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls I can't really help you, David - as I'm inclined to agree with B&G being "almost too smooth". Whilst "Windswept" and "Slave to Love" are amongst my favourite Ferry compositions, the rest of the album lacks something as far as I'm concerned. Good (and yes, definitely several cuts above mid-eighties dinner party background music), but nothing outstanding. If you've really avoided the 80's stuff then you presumably don't have Bete Noire either. IMO this has far more variety on it. I personally think Bete Noire is vastly under-rated, but then everyone has different tastes. Best wishes Jane - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Firmin To: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: [AVALON] Boys and Girls > AMG says the album's biggest flaw is indeed that it's almost too smooth, > with not even the hint of threat or edge that Ferry once readily made his > own. It also states that the album is a high cut above the usual > mid-eighties yuppie smarm music. > > > *** > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:12:47 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls Thank you all for your input. I'm not saying that I don't like any of Ferry's post 70s stuff. I thought As Time Goes By was a breath of fresh air. I really expected another Avalon retread. I've always been skeptical about anything between TBSB and ATGB. Note: Rick Marotta kicked ass on Ferry's Bride. I hope that came out like I meant it to :) on 8/27/01 10:56 AM, Jane Collard at J.Collard@btinternet.com wrote: > I can't really help you, David - as I'm inclined to agree with B&G being > "almost too smooth". Whilst "Windswept" and "Slave to Love" are amongst my > favourite Ferry compositions, the rest of the album lacks something as far > as I'm concerned. Good (and yes, definitely several cuts above mid-eighties > dinner party background music), but nothing outstanding. > > If you've really avoided the 80's stuff then you presumably don't have Bete > Noire either. IMO this has far more variety on it. I personally think Bete > Noire is vastly under-rated, but then everyone has different tastes. > > Best wishes > Jane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Firmin > To: > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:14 PM > Subject: [AVALON] Boys and Girls > > >> AMG says the album's biggest flaw is indeed that it's almost too smooth, >> with not even the hint of threat or edge that Ferry once readily made his >> own. It also states that the album is a high cut above the usual >> mid-eighties yuppie smarm music. >> >> >> *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:32:49 -0400 From: Steve Bigalk Subject: Re: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 Offer Hi Steve, I am interested in receiving the show. My address is: Steven L. Bigalk 801 Westland Drive Marquette, Mich. 49855. Thank you for your time. Steve At 01:53 PM 8/27/2001 -0400, you wrote: >This show is now available Really good sound no distortion clear sound >not alot of audience around the taper. CD1 56+min. CD2 43+min. No Filler >19 songs first few sec. of Tara on CD2 cut. >The first 10 people or so that want this will get a FREEBIE just send >your address and i will get these out by late this week with art (if >someone has pics they want to donate send them on). >Art will be sent with discs. > > Steve > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:42:16 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: [AVALON] FYP, held over by popular demand Hello! Keeping in mind, that I believe Tara to be the ancient seat of Irish kings, where their crowning at the "Stone of Destiny" resides, this morning on the way to market I slipped the Manchester cd into play. Advancing to the fifth track I listened to FYP a few times. At the beginning, alone, the drum beats out a marching cadence. This majestic cadence is then followed by what might be described as misty auroral and other-worldly musical sounds created as the other band members join in. Mysticism is evoked, the type that often surrounds a ceremony or a rite. This is not a rock song. The chanting of "Tara" is reminiscent of ritual, and the musical background fully supports the secrecy, the privilege, the splendor and elegance that might be ambient during an induction into, say, a fraternity, or the passage of monarchy. Although not related specifically to Avalon, Tara, the Stone of Destiny, King Arthur, Camelot, Merlin, Sir Kay are all fables that collide in similarity of fantasy as For Your Pleasure plays on. This is music to imagine by. Perhaps BF may have heard a similar type of ethereal sounds produced elsewhere, and decided to replicate a similar effect in some piece of his own to which he fitted lyrics. Perhaps BF may have read about or been to Tara, was impressed by its lore enough to write a lyrical poem, then set about creating the score. As he once wrote, "You lips are moving but I will never know what they mean." Your guess is as good as mine. Chris wrote that he was initially shocked by the use of FYP as an encore. I don't know why - it was to my great delight this was chosen to close the show. May 12, I submitted "A Proposal" to the list - at the time many contributors were guessing about what should be the opening number. Tired of that strand, I proposed the following: [Roxy Music's last song of the show - "For Your Pleasure": '... through every step a change, you watch me walk away, taraa taraa........' Roxy Music's encore song - "Sentimental Fool": '... it must go on, can't stop. The beat of your heart it's like a drum. Will it stop?' Best wishes, All. KBP] Perhaps none of us know anything more than just a few facts about Roxy Music/Bryan Ferry. The rest is mere (or mirror) conjecture. ;) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:48:09 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONCERTO for 14.99? At 14.43 -0400 1-08-15, InterEireann@aol.com wrote: >I bought it in Greenwich Village recently and it was the same label as >yours. As to quality, I think it is the best of the boots I own, much >better than Funky Chic, for example. The second disc has impressive >recordings of Phil's guitar work on Ladytron and Dream Home Sorry, but no. The Stockholm concert is one of the best Roxy concerts ever on tape. I like the Denver concert as well, but "Funky Chic" is a rockin' Roxy with Jobson in it's prime. NP Crowded House, Don't Dream It's Over (live) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:47:01 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls David wrote: "I've been reading all this great stuff about Boys and Girls on the list recently. You have peaked my interest. Could someone tell me a good reason to go out and buy it?" Buy it for exactly this reason: "So far, I've avoided the 80's stuff altogether." Think out of the box. Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:49:06 -0400 From: "Strimples" Subject: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 CLOSED I have more than enough already. i am sure it will be offered back to the list in the future. Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:20:59 -0500 From: "Jankiewicz, Jim" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 Offer I'll take one! - -----Original Message----- From: Strimples [mailto:squonk@erols.com] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:54 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 Offer This show is now available Really good sound no distortion clear sound not alot of audience around the taper. CD1 56+min. CD2 43+min. No Filler 19 songs first few sec. of Tara on CD2 cut. The first 10 people or so that want this will get a FREEBIE just send your address and i will get these out by late this week with art (if someone has pics they want to donate send them on). Art will be sent with discs. Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:35:15 +0100 From: "Bryan S. Richards" Subject: Re: [AVALON] manchester If anybody's interested I will be leaving Swansea at approx midday. If you want a lift and to share petrol costs let me know. Bryan - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] manchester > i'm off to manchester to see roxy on my own travelling from s. wales anybody > fancy a meet > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:51:57 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question for the A team David, BF's music hasn't exactly been cutting edge stuff for well over 20 years, he has a musical style that he makes his own, whatever the musical genre he is playing with at the time. Mamouna never sounded fresh on release, but that didn't stop it being wonderful and refreshing in places. Unfortunatly he plays with too much musical rope and as we know sometimes comes close to hanging himself. For my money I wish he could realise that a group enviroment is an ideal place for him, so he can then share some of the responsibities and get on with the job of releasing some product (cutting edge term!). Terry "O" PS: If you have any other gaps in your BF/RM collection go for that instead of B&Gs. STL & Windswept are the best things on there by far. NP:Home - Depeche Mode. - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Firmin To: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: [AVALON] Question for the A team > Since the Roxy project has put Ferry's solo album on the back burner, how > can Ferry release it as a "new album"? The recordings have been lying in the > can for almost a year? How can it still sound fresh? > > Also, does anyone know the line-up on Ferry's new solo album? I know Chris > Spedding took part in it. > > Thanks, > David > > *** > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:56:23 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] The Tubes At 11.07 +0100 1-08-15, Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) wrote: >An old friend of mine dragged me along to see THE TUBES (in about '79 at the >Odeon in Birmingham?) who I had never even heard of. They were >FUN/intelligent and had apparently toned their act down somewhat. I hear >they're touring again - anyone seen them in the States - is Fee still >wearing his 12 inch (or should I say 30cm) heels? >I bet they're even funnier now. I am catching up on Avalon. I saw the Tubes in Stockholm during the same tour. I thought that they broke up some years ago, but I am glad I am wrong. They were only big in San Francisco if I remember it right. NP Britney Spears, Stronger (I thought I would surprise you) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:00:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Louis Simone Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Tubes Daniel Atterbom wrote: At 11.07 +0100 1-08-15, Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) wrote: >An old friend of mine dragged me along to see THE TUBES (in about '79 at the >Odeon in Birmingham?) who I had never even heard of. They were >FUN/intelligent and had apparently toned their act down somewhat. I hear >they're touring again - anyone seen them in the States - is Fee still >wearing his 12 inch (or should I say 30cm) heels? >I bet they're even funnier now. I am catching up on Avalon. I saw the Tubes in Stockholm during the same tour. I thought that they broke up some years ago, but I am glad I am wrong. They were only big in San Francisco if I remember it right. Daniel I saw the Tubes on their US Tour last november at the Odeon in Cleveland, Ohio. They were great...Fee still is very entertaining...the crowd was berserk for them...at the end of the show Fee was all choked up...he offered to stay until all autographs were signed, NO matter how long it would take. He and the band were very enthused with the response they got. The Tubes had a couple am radio hits in America, and were known across the land in a small way. Check out Tubes World Tour 2001...they are still great. paulclevo Make international calls for as low as $0.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:33:39 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Essence of Bryan >Eman has IMO captured the essence of Bryan Ferry, his work and his values. Thanks for putting it all into perspective and posting your thoughts. Thanks. I think all of what makes Bryan, Bryan, was never more evident than on this tour. One point I did not make, is there is also an aspect of "inspired amateur" to Bryan as well. An Innocence...smoothed over through effort, almost like rock polishing, if you will. e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:39:19 EDT From: KarenASwenson@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 CLOSED Sorry, I saw this message after I sent my request, so please disregard. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:44:19 EDT From: KarenASwenson@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 CLOSED Sorry, all, my last post was supposed to be off-list.:-( ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:46:46 -0700 From: "David Markfield" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Tubes Nice to see talk about another of my favorite bands Yes indeed the Tubes are still around. And Fee is back with them - though the band is alot different than what you saw in 79 the members still around from then are Fee, Rick Anderson (bass), Roger Steen (guitar) and Prairie Prince (drums). They are no where near as active as they used to be but they are still kicking around. check out www.thetubes.com Dave np - Bowie at the Beeb (disk 1) >--- Original Message --- >From: Daniel Atterbom >To: avalon@smoe.org >Date: 8/27/01 12:56:23 PM > >At 11.07 +0100 1-08-15, Cassidy, Chris J (CCS) wrote: >>An old friend of mine dragged me along to see THE TUBES (in about '79 at the >>Odeon in Birmingham?) who I had never even heard of. They were >>FUN/intelligent and had apparently toned their act down somewhat. I hear >>they're touring again - anyone seen them in the States - is Fee still >>wearing his 12 inch (or should I say 30cm) heels? >>I bet they're even funnier now. > >I am catching up on Avalon. I saw the Tubes in Stockholm during the same >tour. I thought that they broke up some years ago, but I am glad I am >wrong. They were only big in San Francisco if I remember it right. > >NP Britney Spears, Stronger (I thought I would surprise you) > >Daniel > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:47:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Maggie Curran Subject: RE: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 Offer Steve: Please, oh please, can I have one? Maggie lagrand@excite.com On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:20:59 -0500, avalon@smoe.org wrote: > I'll take one! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Strimples [mailto:squonk@erols.com] > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 12:54 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Chicago 2001 Offer > > > This show is now available Really good sound no distortion clear sound > not alot of audience around the taper. CD1 56+min. CD2 43+min. No Filler > 19 songs first few sec. of Tara on CD2 cut. > The first 10 people or so that want this will get a FREEBIE just send > your address and i will get these out by late this week with art (if > someone has pics they want to donate send them on). > Art will be sent with discs. > > Steve > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 22:52:06 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: [AVALON] windy city Chicago 2001 Offer sorry for my english I was in chicago what can i do to have this record? Is someone in europe going to burn it? danitaly missing usa holydays > This show is now available Really good sound no distortion clear sound > not alot of audience around the taper. CD1 56+min. CD2 43+min. No Filler > 19 songs first few sec. of Tara on CD2 cut. > The first 10 people or so that want this will get a FREEBIE just send > your address and i will get these out by late this week with art (if > someone has pics they want to donate send them on). > Art will be sent with discs. > > Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:53:25 EDT From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: Rick Marotta In a message dated 27/08/01 19:17:13 GMT Daylight Time, eddieriff@yahoo.com writes: << Note: Rick Marotta kicked ass on Ferry's Bride. >> He played on your fav. album too David, Avalon (To Turn You On) J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:58:34 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #407 >>>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 18:46:43 +1200 From: Kamaya.Yates@police.govt.nz Subject: [AVALON] Re: Intentionality & Meaning EMAN - Yes, the reader chooses the meaning, and chooses to consider the writers intention, so it is the readers choice... most readers are reasonable, and trying to gain the meanings of the authors, from direct story telling to indirect i.e. poetry your post was very interesting... and I do agree with you..mostly and most people are usually sensible most of the time but some of the time most people are usually not sensible... It is always a collaborative experience in any artistic/creative experience. Ultimately the experience is your own and is influenced by many, many things - the artist can but hope.. I once heard of a an art gallery that hosted an experimental bag piper.. get my drift?? Anyway I do enjoy Bryan's use of language immensely. I especially enjoy the way he uses phrases almost like secret codes. eg. For Your Pleasure - For your pleasure In our present state Sea Breezes - We've been running round In our present state Hoping help will come from above I still haven't decided quite yet about what I think the 'present state' means.. does anyone have any other examples/ideas?? Kamaya :) So, we agree? Sure the extreme theorist point is that ultimately the writers intention doesn't matter.....because one can say it means whatever they want. But I think literature is a kind of cultural contract that people engage in in good faith, seeking to share a meaning with the autuer while at the same time understanding that they will have a private meaning all their own, and never ever entirely know the autuer's complete intentions... (And even if one could have the author's explanations....it would not tell all, because there can be accidental and unintentional meaning ("accidentional" as George W. would say). Wow, Kamaya, we settled a debate in a few short posts that took years of classes in college to leave unsettled. Ah, college. e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:08:56 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry the Lyric Machine Q: Who once called Ferry the Lyric Machine? >>Chris Turner writes: If Ferry wrote the bulk of FYP in a week, did he >>really pore over every_single_couplet like some latter-day Keats - or did he just make some of it rhyme and scan to meet his record company deadline? If this is true, I would expect at this time that Bryan had a notebook or 12 full of nascent ideas, inklings, notions and whims...ready for molding into sculptured linguistic tone poems suitable for setting to moody jingles. e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:14:28 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Fan covers >>>Has there ever been an Avalonia CD tree of Roxy/Ferry tunes covered by us fans? I was thinking maybe we can follow in the footsteps of several other lists, (i.e. the one for Aztec Camera) IF we do this, I promise to submit my contribution recorded on a microcasette (recorder) with the solo backing track of a metronome, while I vocally bludgeon "Casanova." ;-) e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:28:53 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Guilty Pleasure In a message dated 08/27/2001 4:48:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, davidm@w-link.net writes: > Nice to see talk about another of my favorite bands > > Yes indeed the Tubes are still around. > > Hey. If we're going off-subject for a few minutes, I have become a secretly guilty fan of Oasis. Ever since I saw the Wembley concert on TV while my son and I were in Australia last year, I've been mesmerized by the band, especially Liam. How did he get to be such a raging shit and why does that bray of his sound so good in the musical environment his insanely talented brother provides? (Although they should be paying massive royalties to the Beatles.) As far as I can tell they're not wildly successful in the States but apparently the Brits are crazy about them. So, what's the story, morning glory? Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:40:06 -0500 (CDT) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live Say what you will about Madonna , but last night Live from Detroit ( her home town ) Michigan . She put on one hell of a show(2hrs.) She now plays guitar & did some acoustic sets. A Spanish # toward the end was outstanding. If Bryan ever drew a crowd that huge he'd think he died & went to heaven. Marlana..................... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:58:52 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Rick Marotta You are right! I guess he just got lost in the mix. Lately, I have decided to venture out of my "comfort zone". I gave Bride a spin and was amazed at how great that band was. I don't care for most of the stuff without PT, but Marotta is a great drummer. Too bad Ferry didn't utilize him more on Avalon. Thanks, David on 8/27/01 1:53 PM, OBrienFerry@aol.com at OBrienFerry@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 27/08/01 19:17:13 GMT Daylight Time, eddieriff@yahoo.com > writes: > > << Note: Rick Marotta kicked ass on Ferry's Bride. >>> > He played on your fav. album too David, Avalon (To Turn You On) > > J.O'B. *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:55:47 +0100 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls David. I think if you dismiss "Boys and girls" you are doing Ferry a disservice. The album is well crafted , had 2 hit singles and marked a transition from band to solo . and the reason for buying it, Track one, Side two, "The Chosen One" Philip > It just keeps repeating the same riff over and over again. If I appear > naive, it's because I've never really heard the whole album. I'm honestly > looking for a valid reason to add it to my Ferry collection. > > Thanks, > David > > on 8/27/01 9:24 AM, Jankiewicz, Jim at Jim.Jankiewicz@goliath.com wrote: > > > Don't Stop the Dance is BORING!!!! I don't know how to non-emotional > > respond to that. If this song doesn't touch you personally than it may > > explain else I am aghast and speechless. Anyone got a way to respond to > > this, I have this knife in my heart and throat...... > > > > > > David wrote: > > ...songs like "Slave to Love" and "Don't Stop the Dance" are, quite frankly, > > boring. > > > on 8/27/01 9:14 AM, David Firmin at eddieriff@yahoo.com wrote: > > > I've been reading all this great stuff about Boys and Girls on the list > > recently. You have peaked my interest. Could someone tell me a good reason to > > go out and buy it? So far, I've avoided the 80's stuff altogether. > > > > As an "old school" Ferry fan, I could never see what was so fantastic about > > Boys and Girls. Sure I've heard it, but songs like "Slave to Love" and "Don't > > Stop the Dance" are, quite frankly, boring. > > > > AMG says the album's biggest flaw is indeed that it's almost too smooth, with > > not even the hint of threat or edge that Ferry once readily made his own. It > > also states that the album is a high cut above the usual mid-eighties yuppie > > smarm music. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > David > > > > *** > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:02:15 +0100 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls - ----- David, thats 21 years. I would be disappointed if Ferry kept re-producing the same old guff. About 18 albums in 30 odd years, each one still wholly listenable, never dated, and , yes different from the rest. Philip > . I've always been skeptical about > anything between TBSB and ATGB. > > Note ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:25:57 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONCERTO for 14.99? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Atterbom To: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] CONCERTO for 14.99? > Sorry, but no. The Stockholm concert is one of the best Roxy concerts ever > on tape. I like the Denver concert as well, but "Funky Chic" is a rockin' > Roxy with Jobson in it's prime. You've got to be kidding, there are too many bum notes and off key drifts from Ferry's vocal. A far superior recording is the 08/03/76 Hampstead NY show. As far as performance goes Stockholm is by no means the worst I've heard, but it is a far way from the best. Cheers, Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:26:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Louis Simone Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live "M.M.K." wrote: Say what you will about Madonna , but last night Live from Detroit ( her home town ) Michigan . She put on one hell of a show(2hrs.) She now plays guitar & did some acoustic sets. A Spanish # toward the end was outstanding. If Bryan ever drew a crowd that huge he'd think he died & went to heaven. Marlana..................... This spring/summer I have seen Madonna(detroit-sat nite), Roxy Music, Linkin Park, Peter Frampton, John Waite, The Psychedelic Furs, Buckcherry, Sinomatic, The New Animals(what a fantastic show), Rammstein, Crossbreed, Doves, Placebo,The Rubber City Rebels reunion, The White Stripes, and the James Gang reunion. All were great at what they do...anybody get that point? rockin in Cleveland, paulclevo Make international calls for as low as $0.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:32:32 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live - ----- Original Message ----- From: Louis Simone To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live > "M.M.K." wrote: > Say what you will about Madonna , but last night Live from Detroit ( her > home town ) Michigan . She put on one hell of a show(2hrs.) She now > plays guitar & did some acoustic sets. A Spanish # toward the end was > outstanding. If Bryan ever drew a crowd that huge he'd think he died & > went to heaven. Marlana..................... Sure old Madge certainly pulls in a bigger crowd than Roxy, but then so does baseball and it's equally as crap as Madge. Cheers, Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:28:38 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boys and Girls When you say "re-producing the same old guff", I think of how Ferry rehashed Avalon on all his subsequent albums. ATGB broke that mold and came out of left field. I was happy when I heard that Ferry's new album will be a rocker along the lines of TBSB. If it's any indication from the current tour, things are looking up! David on 8/27/01 4:02 PM, Philip Adams at philipcadams@lineone.net wrote: > ----- David, thats 21 years. I would be disappointed if Ferry kept > re-producing the same old guff. About 18 albums in 30 odd years, each one > still wholly listenable, never dated, and , yes different from the rest. > > Philip > >> . I've always been skeptical about >> anything between TBSB and ATGB. >> >> Note *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:02:46 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Casanova" I thought "You're So Vain" was about Warren Beatty? - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Rosencutter To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, 28 August 2001 3:42 Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Casanova" >AMeyersLD@aol.com wrote: >> >> Didn't someone posit that it is about Mick Jagger? > >Nah, that was "You're So Vain." :) > >To me, Casanova and Dead Finks will always be about Messrs. Ferry and >Eno, respectively, regardless of what they have to say about it. It's >just funner that way. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:12:36 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live If he danced for 2 hours solid like she did, he probably would! - -----Original Message----- From: M.M.K. To: Avalon@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, 28 August 2001 7:40 Subject: [AVALON] Re: HBO Live >Say what you will about Madonna , but last night Live from Detroit ( her >home town ) Michigan . She put on one hell of a show(2hrs.) She now >plays guitar & did some acoustic sets. A Spanish # toward the end was >outstanding. If Bryan ever drew a crowd that huge he'd think he died & >went to heaven. Marlana..................... > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #409 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest