From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #400 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, August 23 2001 Volume 06 : Number 400 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] This Love (old news) [Heather James ] [AVALON] "For Your Pleasure" a space oddity ["the bogus man" ] [AVALON] re : Julia ? [Johnny Reece ] Re: [AVALON] interminable solos ??! [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] This Love (old news) ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] This Love (old news) ["Grant Goggans" ] [AVALON] FYP ["Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" ] RE: [AVALON] (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" [Jocelyn ] Re: [AVALON] This Love (old news) [Artman1@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Re : For Your Pleasure ["SIMON GALLOWAY" ] [AVALON] Avalonians who came to Atlanta... ["Grant Goggans" ] [AVALON] Strange picture of Andy [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Strange picture of Andy ["Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] This Love (old news) This Love was on Last Year's Greatest Hits album ... Slave To Love Bryan Ferry Release Date: Aug 8, 2000 1. Slave To Love 2. Jealous Guy 3. This Love 4. More Than This 5. Falling In Love Again 6. Smoke Gets In Your Eyes 7. Will You Love Me Tomorrow 8. Oh Yeah 9. Is Your Love Strong Enough? 10. Zamba 11. These Foolish Things 12. Crazy Love 13. Sonnet 18 14. Avalon 15. Where Or When 16. To Turn You On 17. Windswept 18. My Only Love The song lineup varied slightly from country to country ... Hope this helps ... Artman1@aol.com wrote: >I guess what I meant was where I can find BF's version! >Thanks. > >Art > >You also check out Sarah Brightmans Version on her "La Luna" CD, I have all >3 versions of this song all of which are equally beautiful. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 15:16:22 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: [AVALON] "For Your Pleasure" a space oddity well for your pleasure means so much to me that it was the first roxy song i tried to turn into a comic story i drew it while i was "studying" in venice trying to steal an architecture degree LOL The world is lucky cose that work is missing :-))))))))))) it was a sci-fi interpretation of course.. there was a space -opera siren giving nightmares to the astro-ship pilote she had the horse face of jerry hall LOL dan dare ;-)))))))))) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:13:35 -0500 From: Bill Subject: [AVALON] Ferry should have hung onto it! Article about JOHN CLEESE: He has just sold his London home in Holland Park for #5 million, 24 years after buying it from the singer Bryan Ferry for #80,000, and is acquiring a #2 million mews home around the corner, to add to his apartment in Manhattan and three-bedroomed beach house at Montecito, near Santa Barbara, California. complete article here http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/08/22/nclee22.xml ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 06:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnny Reece Subject: [AVALON] re : Julia ? Nope ! 'Overpayment' or whatever/whoever, ain't me. I've never overpaid for anything in my life (well, apart from the odd Roxy rarity, naturellement). Besides, I'm campaigning for inclusion on the Sites of the Dancing Girls instead now. Julia was last year. I've moved on, I've matured. (Surely some mistake ?) Reecey... Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:24:42 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] interminable solos ??! "Luckily I have the opportunity for another "fix" in September" Enjoy, Aleks - we all know the next time is the best time! Viva Roxy Music!!! PS. I'm listening to "Kiss The Past Goodnight" for the first time. It's on track eleven right now. How lucky, those of you who were treated to MOP. At least I have it on record. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:36:02 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] This Love (old news) Sorry!, Try "Slave to Love, The Best Of the Ballads" CD - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] This Love (old news) > I guess what I meant was where I can find BF's version! > Thanks. > > Art > > You also check out Sarah Brightmans Version on her "La Luna" CD, I have all > 3 versions of this song all of which are equally beautiful. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:46:34 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry should have hung onto it! I have hear Cleese say several times over the years that he advises buying property from rock stars as they don't haggle about the price. Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" To: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: [AVALON] Ferry should have hung onto it! > Article about JOHN CLEESE: > > He has just sold his London home in Holland Park for #5 million, 24 > years after buying it from the singer Bryan Ferry for #80,000, and is > acquiring ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:01:22 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Special Request >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:00:37 -0500 >From: Bill >Subject: [AVALON] Special Request > >Does anyone out there have a copy of a specific Roxy Music show I am >looking for? > >Saturday April 21st, 1979 Pasadena Civic Auditorium > >I am dying for a copy of this show.... because.... > >I attended this Roxy Music show of Saturday April 21st, 1979 at the >Pasadena Civic Auditorium. At the time there was a Los Angeles radio >station called K-West (KWST) and they broadcast the entire show over >the radio. A non attendee taped this for me and it came out perfectly. That's the "Warped Leatherezz" boot, I believe. I've never seen a CD copy, but the vinyl pops up on eBay from time to time. Grant _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:03:10 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] This Love (old news) >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:58:48 EDT >From: Artman1@aol.com >Subject: Re: [AVALON] This Love (old news) > >I guess what I meant was where I can find BF's version! >Thanks. It's on "Slave to Love: The Best of the Ballads," Art. Grant http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 10:27:19 -0500 From: "Jankiewicz, Jim" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re : For Your Pleasure [Yes, it is Judi Dench who does the 'Don't Ask Why' at the end of the song.] ? Is this only heard on the remastered FYP? Forgive but I have no idea what you guys are referring to and I thought I 'knew' this song. So, after the 'Taras' start echoing a female voice can be heard at some point? (now be nice out there...) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:07:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, William Sommers wrote: > I've no doubt there is intended imagery -- or at least it is so > image-rich that I cannot easily fathom otherwise -- but it is of a > nature I have never been able to grasp, or more accurately, recreate. It's a lullaby, albeit one for adults--isn't it?-- and it's in the structure of the song, the instrumentation, the way Ferry sings it. That's why it was such a perfect exit at the shows. It's about that stage between being awake and being asleep ("in our present state/part false part true") and about protection from all of those things that haunt us when we wake up in the middle of the night with that terrifying thought: "Oh my God. This is my life.": > Gravel hard and loose > There all night lying > With your dark horse hiding > Abhorring such extremes But I think it's a lullaby you sing to yourself, which I think fits in pretty well with the claustrophobic obsessed Ferry universe. It's also a song which I think has more resonance now that he, the band, and we are all getting old[er]. > Old man > Through every step a change > You watch me walk away Coming back and looking at the lyrics lo these many years later, it's as if the first the young man is walking away from the old man who exists only in his imagination. But now it's the young man walking away into the imagination, leaving only the old man. It's not a negative image necessarily because getting older does have its benefits, but it's quite interesting in terms of its being the closer for the tour. Colleen (who has always loved the line "Through every step a change") ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:49:01 +0100 From: "Nigel Hollis" Subject: [AVALON] (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" Carol wrote : "Hey Nigel, I've got one for you... As I have been obsessively playing RM since the July 19 show I saw, I have discovered a very bizarre thing.... My favorite song on each CD is the 4th one. (although I don't really count India as a full song, so it's the 5th one on Avalon) To what might you attribute this??? I sure can't figure it out...." I really don`t know.......but wait.......! I remember sitting there smoking a Virginia Plain listening to the song Editions of You, when Out Of The Blue I start to think of an old flame. She was no Beauty Queen and I swear While My Heart Is Still Beating that she had a face like the Amazona. But it was a Chance Meeting and I enjoyed the Whirwind romance and, sadly, when we parted I remember thinking.... Still Falls The Rain......... (Probabily all been done before and anyone still awake will have spotted the deliberate error, but I do not really appreciate Psalm that much, and refuse to use it). If by any chance Carol, that the above has absolutley nothing whatever to do with your dilemma, then do try using number 4 somewhere in your selection for the state lottery. Now, please leave me alone as I have an urgent meeting with Nostradamus. Ciao for now, Nigel. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:40:27 -0500 From: Susan Stekel Subject: Re: [AVALON] (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" >It's a lullaby, albeit one for adults--isn't it?-- and it's in the >structure of the song, the instrumentation, the way Ferry sings it. >That's why it was such a perfect exit at the shows. Hmmm -- an interesting thought. Personally, I've always taken it as a declaration of purpose by the band -- "manifesto" seems too strong a word, but it's the best I can come up off the top of my head. It's the moment when the band drops the glam rock/avant guard curtain and reveals themselves to their listeners: part false, part true, like anything. A line that says as much about us and the world as about the band. In fact, I take the balance of the song as being addressed to the listener, the audience. They're observing us, as we're observing them. Perhaps it's too literal an interpretation of those opening lyrics? Maybe. But for me, it works -- and the opacity of the following lyrics doesn't hinder it. But being a personal declaration doesn't make it a heartfelt plea for understanding and acceptance. It's as gloriously arch and glamorous as anything -- just slightly less ironic. It is, as you say, the perfect closer for these shows -- a reunion tour that is essentially a retrospective of the band's career. Thank you for choosing what may well be my favorite song -- it took my breath away from the first hearing. Though I'm frustrated I can't express my feelings and reactions better. Perhaps that's part of my love for it as well -- it's something that can't be quantified. Susan [who thinks it's just icing on the cake that Judy Dench is involved] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 16:43:01 From: "James James" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Special Request Is this the "Song For Europe" bootleg? >From: Bill >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: "avalon@smoe.org" >Subject: [AVALON] Special Request >Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:00:37 -0500 > >Does anyone out there have a copy of a specific Roxy Music show I am >looking for? > >Saturday April 21st, 1979 Pasadena Civic Auditorium > >I am dying for a copy of this show.... because.... > >I attended this Roxy Music show of Saturday April 21st, 1979 at the >Pasadena Civic Auditorium. At the time there was a Los Angeles radio >station called K-West (KWST) and they broadcast the entire show over >the radio. A non attendee taped this for me and it came out perfectly. > >I had not listened to the tape in some time and a friend graciously >offered to transfer it to CD for me. Depressingly the cassette broke and >now >I am without this memento. > >This is a lot to ask and a big stretch.. but thought I'd try the old >adage of >"it doesn't hurt to ask". > >Thanks very much > >BILL >~-~-~-~-~-~- >Track listing > >Manifesto >Trash >Out Of The BLue >Angel Eyes >A Song For Europe >Still Falls The Rain >Ain't That So >Stronger Through The Years >Ladytron >Dream Home Heartache >Love Is The Drug >Editions Of You >Do The Strand >Re-Make Re-Model > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:59:35 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: [AVALON] FYP Isn't this song about Roxy Music themselves, the aspirations and fears of a young BF......' FOR YOUR PLEASURE ........WE present OURSELVES......' The ending is Ferry envisioning (himself "OLD MAN" as he would perceive himself at 55 when 25) a future (2001 as it turned out - not the first in '79 as that doesn't fit my theory!) Roxy Reunion and the farewell at the end of each show... "watch me walk away.....TARA..." Personally, I always thought that Roxy would one day get back together. This was mainly based on something Bryan once said which was along the lines of (can't recall the exact interview ) "....as long as I'm touring, there'll always be a Roxy Music". He kept some of us waiting a bit but has proved true to his word. Chris PS. Does the best bluff win an award! Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" >The first song of the week is "For Your Pleasure" from _For Your >Pleasure_. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:10:38 -0400 From: "Strimples" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 80s vs. 90s Didn't the Phsyc. Furs start as a punk band? Then when they re-did 'Pretty In Pink' for the movie they turned into a "Mainstream-ish" group. Always liked the original PIP and Dumbwaiter. Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod LeCloux To: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] 80s vs. 90s > Gene said: > > One of the best, and underrated, bands of the 80`s, IMO, was the > Psychedelic > > Furs > > They weren't underrated in Green Bay. They are in my top 10 bands. Check > out Love Spit Love if you haven't already. > > Rod > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ___ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:44:43 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" Roxy are full of biographical/manifesto intentions and this is yet another I feel. Not a million miles removed from the "how we all got started" proclamations of Virginia Plain. But obviously not as obvious as "Manifesto". I find it one of Ferry's most mannered deliveries (much more rap than Love Is the Drug) and could have loved it on that basis alone. But there are individual offerings throughout that are simply sublime. Thommo's parradiddle....perridaddle....pirri....Ivor!! There was a perfect penny dropping moment at every concert when TGPT echoed into the intro. Phil's whinnying guitar, the disembodied ghostly questioning female who for years we all assumed to be Amanda Lear before a Charlie Parker lured BF fell into Reecey's trap and put us all straight. The thundering hooved outro into psychedelic hell, a perfect counterpart to the bizarreness of the "this way you dogs" passage in the Pleasure and the Pain. The abstractness of the lyrics making it easier for me to believe that "you're rubbing shoulders" was "you're a pink shoulder" and never question it. It was probably this and The Bob Medley that made me wish I did hallucinogenic drugs. Listen in the dark. Taraaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 14:23:14 EDT From: Artman1@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] This Love (old news) Thanks, Heather. This Love was on Last Year's Greatest Hits album ... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:09:48 +0100 From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : For Your Pleasure No, it's on the vinyl too, and the first cd isue and probably the cassette and 8 track! SimonG - ---------- >From: "Jankiewicz, Jim" >To: "'avalon@smoe.org'" >Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re : For Your Pleasure >Date: Thu, Aug 23, 2001, 4:27 pm > > [Yes, it is Judi Dench who does the 'Don't Ask Why' at the end of the song.] > ? Is this only heard on the remastered FYP? Forgive but I have no idea > what you guys are referring to and I thought I 'knew' this song. So, after > the 'Taras' start echoing a female voice can be heard at some point? (now > be nice out there...) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:15:56 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" FYP has aspecial place for me - he last song on my first Roxy listening experience. The sonics are wonderful with the drums, treated instruments and female vocals all adding to the spell. It was the perfect closer to the 2001 shows and had the depth that the Siren tour couldn't provide. As for the lyrics it has to be about the band what they are here for etc. Cheers Richard Colleen Matan wrote: > The first song of the week is "For Your Pleasure" from _For Your > Pleasure_. > > It's been playing non-stop in my head for a few days now, and it's the > last thing many of us here heard the last time we had a night with the > boys, so let's give it a whirl. > > The discussion is open to anything related to the song, but something > things to start folks off in case you're feeling shy: > > love it? hate it? > lyrics/music > it changed my life > live vs. studio version(s) (if applicable) > the video (if any) > that reminds me... > > "For Your Pleasure" (Ferry) > > For your pleasure > In our present state > Part false part true > Like anything > We present ourselves > The words we use tumble > All over your shoulder > Gravel hard and loose > There all night lying > With your dark horse hiding > Abhorring such extremes > You're rubbing shoulders > With the stars at night > Shining so bright > Getting older > But you'll wake up soon > And fight > In the morning > Things you worried about > Last night > Will seem lighter > I hope things > Will turn out right > Old man > Through every step a change > You watch me walk away > Tara tara.... > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:20:07 +0000 From: "Therese O'Donnell" Subject: RE: [AVALON] (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" Hello there. I know I've been away for a bit, lots of work stuff and a good few concerts to fit in. I didin't do a review of the US gigs as, by the time I got home, they had all been done by more eloquent writers and more elegant thinkers than I. Many thanks to you all for your company and the good reading. However, the deconstruction of For Your Pleasure was too much to resist and so here I am. I've read views that this could be the band presenting themselves or the view of oneself in the dead of night both of which I can say I empathise with and can totally see as fitting (although I did think that the LST version of Casanova had the late-night self-loathing thing going on). I think that an interpretation of this song very much depends on where you hear it. For example, on the tour it was, I thought, very much about the band themselves. It had the lines which indicate that they are showcasing themselves, it also to me, by ending and not opening the show, had the sang-froid of 'So here we are, judge us, whatever  we'll just walk away anyway,' a sentiment very appropriate to Ferry and to Roxy. Trailing enduring attention behind them. This always strikes me as particularly true given the image of the words like hair falling over, a veil, a closing curtain perhaps? The way the song lingers on is like a perfume, it's still there after they've gone, leaving us to make of it what we wish. Leaving us with an aural memory that seems to fade quicker the more we try to re-capture it. It's a moment and it's gone. When I listen to it on the album, the song take on a different angle, it seems such a fitting end to such a dark album. It's saying 'Look you can think about these things, imagine, worry, angst, suffer the exile of the interior, fantasise about the future, morbidly self-analyse, over-glamourise your mingling with the stars in life or in death, whatever. The point is that things just go on, they turn over and over in an inevitable way. All this grief/thought is all very well, but perhaps things just aren't that dramatic or tragic and maybe you're not that bad after all.' And maybe things are gonna be the way they're gonna be. And maybe you'll get older. It's the antithesis of a rock fantsay. It's the relief from the terror of the bogus man of doubt, the strictly confidential of self-loathing, the beauty queen of self-deception, the grey lagoons of sickness, the repetitive editions of competitiveness and of course the fairground moving mirrors of the strand. Alternatively maybe it's the perfect end to a dark album because it maybe offers the inevitable end as being mundanity. That, whatever other horrors might be out there, the horror of mediocrity is the worst. It is the shingle path of suburbia, where even the beauty queen herself can't escape from. And where you get older. Anyway, that's my long-winded take on it all. What can I say about this song on tour? Nothing much new, except that in Dublin I had, of course, rushed to the front to bump straight into Mr. Robert Fedder (without his comrade Stockman) whom I and my posse had met in the foyer. Out there he had been a very cool customer indeed, anticipating in articulate and cut-glass terms his views on what awaited us. A lot of political analysis of power relationships in the band was going on I'll tell you. However, the man I bumped into at the barriers was practically unrecognisable as his former self. A beaming, bouncing adolescent was what stood in front of me and helped me right to the front (thanks BTW). After a blazing 'Editions' - always a big favourite of mine, I managed to yell out 'so what do you think?' and his take was an hysterically positive response maybe with an expletive. Then we turned to the front, terrified and exhilarated as to what would be next and, as we knew, last. Bom-biddle-a-ba-bom. Bom-biddle-a-ba-bom. And the both of us, the lovely fans next to me and the other 5000 or so around us breathed in at once in shock, in disbelief, in ecstasy. Ladies and gentlemen, that is what FYP does for me. Gotta find my be-feathered inhaler. Ciao bella (donna) Madame T. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:32:21 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #393 Chris, if you put "Get a life" on two I bet you have solved most of the problem ;-). Han - ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Chris Turner > It's on my to do list (at number 874) Number 1 is currently 'Get a job' > > Chris > > From: "overpavement" > > and on another topic altogether, why don't the roxy websites like roxyrama > > and vivaroxymusic have lots more pictures of various contributors over the > > years. like, say, julia thornton? just curious. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:57:30 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #393 True enough Han, true enough... Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Han Snijders" To: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #393 > Chris, if you put "Get a life" on two I bet you have solved most of the > problem ;-). > > Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:09:58 +0100 From: "Graham Fairlie" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Glasgow in September Hi Rosalind Glasgow has loads of hotels - across the price spectrum and 1 Devonshire is at one extreme (the expensive end). The Moat House is convenient for the concert but not much else (unless you are prepared to go by taxi). Check out http://www.seeglasgow.com but most of the major international names are here as well >There was once a move to get an Avalonian party going after the > main attraction. Is that still on, and if so, where? If you are refering to my over-ambitious suggestion, that was shot down in flames - it will be difficult to get a significant group into anywhere interesting on a Saturday night in Glasgow. (Especially at the end of the month when most folk will have been paid and will be looking to party). I (and I'm sure several others) will be up for a pre/post gig gathering. Digression .... Tron team: are you too embarrassed after the last time for another evening of fun and frolicks (but please no singing or guitars). Friday night some time soon? Welcome back Madame T. Thought those East Anglians had spirited you away! Perhaps we could persuade the Tron to get a late licence for their back room for the 29th September if enough folk were interested? Oops I can feel the missiles locking on already Cheers Graham - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosalind Bull To: Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:15 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Glasgow in September > Before getting shot down in flames for doing this on-list (so many are going > to Glasgow it might be helpful particularly for those coming across the > Atlantic), One Devonshire Gardens is just about THE premier place to stay > there, and costs a fortune (I've stayed there but someone else was paying - > it is luxurious). I agree Jane it is more likely to appeal to BF than the > Moat House. There was once a move to get an Avalonian party going after the > main attraction. Is that still on, and if so, where? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 22:21:32 +0000 From: "C. H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" FYP is one of my favourite songs on the album, and indeed a perfect closer for the concerts. Lyrically, I view it as a kind of deconstruction/ambivalence thing, questioning the WYSIWYG and replacing it with a subtle tone of the ambiguity of presentation and the incompleteness of communication ("the words we use tumble all over your shoulder"), as if words feel strange and yet solid. Part false/part true, we can come close, but never quite get there. In the end a ray of hope ("In the morning..." &c.) - and yet the theme of loss ("You watch me walk away"), as if to finally dissolve all playful ambivalence of reality/fantasy and making way for the goodbye. That seemingly inevitable Roxy goodbye. No together in the end, it's separation and loss. Or even death. These are only some blurred spontaneous impressions. BTW, can anybody tell me what "Tara" exactly means? Slang for "bye"? "I see one of my sons named like that?" Please enlighten, I'm German. Musically, FYP is an interesting example of Ferry's tendency to use lots of major chords including changes of scales - which has probably emerged from a rather visual than musical style of playing the piano. The vocal phrasing stresses Ferry's absolute uniqueness - no other singer could have done it like that, I suppose. I like the twang solo early on, and the acapella moment seems like reality is going to break in (somebody speaking to me, not only telling me he's walking away, but that I AM WATCHING him walk away, deconstructing perspectives - or only watching me watching whilst walking away...) (oh that's lyrics, not music) - and then the piano featuring heavy delay, fading into a final synth drone embellished with cymbals and an actress (I always thought it was Eno) - and are there taped and treated snippets of "Chance Meeting"??? "Well how? how?" &c. I guess I have misheard that but it sounds like the first two words of CM repeated from tape, giving an eerie feeling of being stuck in a circular communication routine without a vent. Ooo, I should go to bed now. I'm off to Sweden for 12 days so I have to leave this interesting song discussion to you, dear Avalonians. Tara... (whatever it may mean), Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 22:45:56 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] (the first) song of the week: "For Your Pleasure" On 23 Aug 2001, at 22:21, C. H. Soetemann wrote: > and are there taped and treated snippets of "Chance Meeting"??? "Well > how? how?" &c. I guess I have misheard that but it sounds like the > first two words of CM repeated from tape, giving an eerie feeling of > being stuck in a circular communication routine without a vent. What a wonderful suggestion - entirely credible IMHO. And how wonderful it is to read this thread. This for me is where Avalon justifies its' existence, where a personal depth of feeling is revealed - marvellous! David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:27:38 -0400 From: "Linda Epstein" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy video From the Orange County Register... Bryan Ferry, "In Concert _ Live in Paris at Le Grand Rex, March 2000" (EMD/Virgin, $19.98) _ Supper-club standards with style. Captured during his tour supporting "As Time Goes By," in which the singular vocalist tackles Cole Porter, Rodgers & Hart and more. For Roxy Music fans only, who will be pleasantly surprised by the treatments he brings to obscurities like "Cassanova" and "Chance Meeting" along with standbys like "Oh Yeah" and "Avalon." Linda ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:36:02 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Avalonians who came to Atlanta... After coaxing from Maggie, the horrible and unfettered photographic evidence of our pre-show party can now be revealed. May future generations forgive us for what we did. http://gmslegion.00page.com/www/fellini.html - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:25:52 -0400 From: "Peter Seely" Subject: [AVALON] RE: Concord show recording Does anyone have a recording of the Concord show they will be treeing? I saw three different shows and that one was by far the best. Pete Seely ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:07:24 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Strange picture of Andy Enjoying meatballs in Panama style hat. http://www.cpl593h.com/images/andymeatball.jpg *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 01:20:56 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Strange picture of Andy Surely the sauce would soak through? Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Firmin" To: Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 1:07 AM Subject: [AVALON] Strange picture of Andy > Enjoying meatballs in Panama style hat. > > http://www.cpl593h.com/images/andymeatball.jpg ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:27:44 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Concord show recording In a message dated 08/23/2001 8:10:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, seely31@home.com writes: > Does anyone have a recording of the Concord show they will be treeing? I saw > three different shows and that one was by far the best. > > I'm trying to acquire it in a trade. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #400 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest