From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #395 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, August 22 2001 Volume 06 : Number 395 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] AJ's essay ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay ["A.L. Jepson" ] Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay ["A.L. Jepson" ] Re: [AVALON] The Roxy look [Adrew Howard ] Re: [AVALON] One born every minute [Aleks Kocan ] RE: [AVALON] Roxy on eBay [Rick ] Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay ["David Squires " ] [AVALON] Sign Of The Times [Chandla911@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] www.bryanferry.com [Jocelyn Fiske ] RE: [AVALON] bryan and marc [Jocelyn Fiske ] RE: [AVALON] Ferry's Plans For Next Year? [Jocelyn Fiske ] Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay ["A.L. Jepson" ] Re: [AVALON] The Roxy look [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay ["A.L. Jepson" ] RE: [AVALON] RE:Roxy Music a cottage industry? [Jocelyn Fiske ] RE: a proposal (was Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay) [Jocelyn Fiske ] [AVALON] Glasgow in September [Ceesse@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay ["David Squires " ] RE: [AVALON] www.bryanferry.com/Peter Leay ["David Squires " ] Re: a proposal (was Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay) ["Tim Kendrick" ] Re: [AVALON] Bushwackin' for bootlegs! ["Tim Kendrick" Subject: [AVALON] AJ's essay Alan I omitted a deadline from my earlier post, which produced such a "witty" reply. Let's say 23:59 hours BST on Friday 24/8/01. Let me know if you need an extension. David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:24:25 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay David Hmmm yes I might need an extension on that one. How about sometime next year. Alan David Squires wrote: > > Alan > > I omitted a deadline from my earlier post, which produced such a "witty" > reply. Let's say 23:59 hours BST on Friday 24/8/01. Let me know if you > need an extension. > > David > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:27:43 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay On 22 Aug 2001, at 9:24, A.L. Jepson wrote: > Hmmm yes I might need an extension on that one. How about sometime > next year. Well, how about actually writing it and letting us all know what it is about BF and RM that compels you to be on this list? Believe me, there are some of us who'd like to know. David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:32:07 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay Really? Why's that? I'd have thought was obvious as to why I'm on this list. Alan David Squires wrote: > > On 22 Aug 2001, at 9:24, A.L. Jepson wrote: > > > Hmmm yes I might need an extension on that one. How about sometime > > next year. > > Well, how about actually writing it and letting us all know what it is about > BF and RM that compels you to be on this list? Believe me, there are some > of us who'd like to know. > > David > > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 01:52:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Adrew Howard Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Roxy look On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:31:52 -0500, Judy Kauffman wrote: > > I have wondered whether TGPT's departure from RM/BF solo had anything to do > with his *look* . Not exactly the perfect Roxy Music/Ferry *image*. I agree completely. Thompson didn't fit the cultured Roxy look and he's played second fiddle as a result. I would imagine that Ferry invited him on the tour reluctantly, probably to please the fans. Manzanera was the on who demanded his inclusion. Let's face it Ferry is a fashion snob. It's a wonder he didn't demand that Paul appear on stage with a paper bag over his head. The same happened on the ATGB album. Many of the session musicianss were replaced with luscious young girls with strappy tops for the tour. As for Yannick Ettiene, well I think her enduring appeal is that she's about the only person who's ever done justice to the unique conclusion to Avalon. And while she does carry a few pounds there is also something quite serene about her. Paul just doesn't cut it style-wise at all, which is good thing in many ways. Drew _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 02:24:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] One born every minute - --- Chris Turner wrote: > I will never understand eBay. Quite true Chris, I've recently seen what i consider ridiculous high bids on ebay for the Roxy BBC Radio performance that was tree'd earlier this year. This has also been the case for other items that had been previously tree'd through the list Aleks Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 05:24:49 -0400 From: Rick Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy on eBay Wow, I just downloaded it and burned a copy from winmx. For free! Rick - -----Original Message----- From: Keith Shockley [SMTP:shockley@usit.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:00 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Roxy on eBay Speaking of outrageous prices being paid for items on eBay...I just saw where the cd of the one hour Glasgow radio broadcast is going for almost $40. I once saw The Flying Lizards debut cd sell for about $70 and the description read "oop" (out of print). I bought it new for like $20 from AB-CD Music. Keith ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:34:11 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay On 22 Aug 2001, at 9:32, A.L. Jepson wrote: > Really? Why's that? I'd have thought was obvious as to why I'm on this > list. Surprisingly, you thought wrong. That's why I suggested the essay. I'm afraid I've learned more about UK social and political history and dim bands from the 1980's from your messages than what exactly it is about RM/BF that compels you to be here. David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 05:37:16 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Sign Of The Times Grant wrote: >But if Bryan Ferry didn't want his squiggle to be >worth money to people, then I respectfully submit he >shouldn't have been trying to make hit records. While I agree with everything Grant said about the cult of autograph hunting, are we sure BF has been trying to make *hit* records? Richard n/p U2 Miami Rehearsals for Elevation Tour ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:36:07 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] www.bryanferry.com - -----Original Message----- From: thom.wallace [mailto:thom.wallace@ntlworld.com] Sent: 21 August 2001 23:15 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] www.bryanferry.com I wonder if the revamp of Ferry's site may have been prompted by the excellent vivaroxymusic.com or the success of roxyrama.com. Tom. Well a bit bloody late if it is. I think the only people still using the so called official site are the guys and gals on the discussion forum (before they shut it down) who provide more info than the site itself, right David? Like most info coming out of the Ferry camp it's always too little too late. You'd think he'd take a leaf out of BM's excellent Manzanera site and get his act up to speed. Oh for the heady days of Peter Leay who ran the Roxy Music Fan Club through the 70's when he'd let you know tour dates and priority booking arrangements for Fan Club members BEFORE it was announced publicly. It might have been snail mail but it still beats the non existent service we receive now into a cocked hat. Ooh don't get me started! Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:40:54 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] bryan and marc >just for fun np4: 'just like a silver studded sabre tooth dream' (np4=no prizes for guessing the song title) slightly tougher np4:'la la la la la la la....oooh' 'deep in my heart, there's a house, that could hold, just about all of you' duncan Are you mad Duncan? Reecey's on the list! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:43:12 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry's Plans For Next Year? > I have wondered whether TGPT's departure from RM/BF solo had anything to do > with his *look* . Not exactly the perfect Roxy Music/Ferry *image*. Bryan > seems to take control of how an entire project is presented - could it be > that PT doesn't fit his idea of that image? Hmmmm, to be replaced by a preening poodle of a drummer with very dodgy shorts and Keith Richards Dad on the ATGB tour. Bryan's eyes are definitely on the blink. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 05:47:28 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Colleen and T(h)om Wallace Just for my three and nine pennyworth, Colleen invariably sums up my view so succinctly, I don't bother to contribute for fear of repetition (oh that some other Avalonians shared that fear). I believe she gets posts individually so has usually responded by the time I get the digest. For some reason, I often find T(h)om irritating and elitist, but have previously kept that view quiet also. But I have to give credit where it's due. His recent posting on the "share holding" of Roxy seems to be spot on and I share his every nuance. I'm sure he's right about the triumvirate being the share holders of assets and would agree with TGPT being brought back in somehow if that were possible. Meanwhile, knowing that to be unlikely (just look at Bryan's apparent unease and spikiness - albeit clad in friendly riposte - when asked by CSM at the London Press Conference if he had TGPT's phone number), why can't they all pose for an official photograph together? It's absurd and leads to rumours about why PT left in the first place. If a band can keep a place open for a drummer who loses an arm (and at least one could), surely TGPT's place should have been sacrosanct? Richard n/p: U2 still in Miami ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 10:49:06 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] How I worshipped at the altar of Roxy.. >Well greetings Kamaya(love your name)... Really enjoyed reading both yours and Kamaya's posts Alan. Puts me in the mood for another concert or two. >And Zev looked the part-and his playing was OK,I guess,for a traitorous Yankee fan! Bryan introduced him at Boston as a White Sox fan, so after his crack about him being a Yankees fan in NY on the Monday, I fully expected him to miraculously become a Mets fan overnight for Tuesday's gig. Bryan's a tinker and make no mistake. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:08:29 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: [AVALON] RE: Re:Bryan's joint lyricist >Hi Stef, Thanks for enlightening me. That discussion must have taken place just before I joined the list, as I do remember a comment or two about Dr. Puxley. Karen Bryan dedicated MOP to "Simon, who helped me write it" The first time Bryan has ever acknowledged publicly that he was not the sole author of said opus. Which led me to think, which other songs might the good Doctor have had a helping hand in? I detect a similar lyrical playfulness in In Every Dream Home and maybe Do the Strand. Thoughts anyone? (Come on Martin this is all t-eed up for you) Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 06:12:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, A.L. Jepson wrote: > Really? Why's that? I'd have thought was obvious as to why I'm on > this list. Really? To who? Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:13:09 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay Oh well at least you've learnt something from my messages then. By the way, what's dim about the 1980s despite the fact that they were influenced by BF/RM? I take it you don't like 80s music much. I do like Roxy Music you know but I don't see why should write an essay to justify why I like the band. However I'll briefly say that I think they are one of the world's most creative bands to come out of the last century. I got into them via FTP as it's one of Martin Fry's favourite albums. There's also the fact that I like a lot of bands from the 1980s were cite Roxy as an influence. I have actually posted messages that are related to RM. Surely you must've noticed them. Alan David Squires wrote: > > On 22 Aug 2001, at 9:32, A.L. Jepson wrote: > > > Really? Why's that? I'd have thought was obvious as to why I'm on this > > list. > > Surprisingly, you thought wrong. That's why I suggested the essay. I'm > afraid I've learned more about UK social and political history and dim > bands from the 1980's from your messages than what exactly it is about > RM/BF that compels you to be here. > > David > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 06:17:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Roxy look On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Adrew Howard wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:31:52 -0500, Judy Kauffman wrote: > > > > > I have wondered whether TGPT's departure from RM/BF solo had anything > > to do with his *look* . Not exactly the perfect Roxy Music/Ferry > > *image*. > > > I agree completely. Thompson didn't fit the cultured Roxy look and > he's played second fiddle as a result. I would imagine that Ferry > invited him on the tour reluctantly, probably to please the fans. > Manzanera was the on who demanded his inclusion. > > Let's face it Ferry is a fashion snob. It's a wonder he didn't demand > that Paul appear on stage with a paper bag over his head. The same Yes, but given Ferry's myopia, it's doubtful he's even seen Paul lately. And if this extremely unlikely scenario were true, given his legendary insecurity, one would think that in his view, the fewer middle-aged male matinee idols on that stage, the better. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:17:47 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay I thought it wouldn't be long before you'd chip in on this one Colleen. Alan Colleen Matan wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, A.L. Jepson wrote: > > > Really? Why's that? I'd have thought was obvious as to why I'm on > > this list. > > Really? To who? > > Colleen > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:16:44 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] RE:Roxy Music a cottage industry? >That's a knock-out..10 point for you Jocelyn! BTW if you ever gone sell your ass on ebay let me know, would make a lovely drum kit!. Han Look for it under kettle drums (thought I'd better get in before Martino did!) Do you want to start the bidding? The Fat Lady of Limbourg ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 06:34:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: a proposal (was Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay) David's (hopefully productive) task to AJ and Jocelyn's teeing up of the "Mother of Pearl" origins to Martin have emboldened me to propose this to the list: on another list I'm on (and a few other people here are on as well, including the person who husbanded this idea on that list), we had a long, successful run of "the song of the week." It was pretty simple--every week a song was chosen, the lyrics were posted, and a few guiding questions were appended to assist in starting the discussion. It wasn't a mandatory thing, and it in no way precluded the existence of any other discussion on the list. But it was often very interesting, funny, moving, provocative, and annoying. It helped improve the signal:noise ratio since it provided an on-topic context for off-topic content at times and it helped new people get to know folks on the list, and vice versa. Probably the best thing about it was it allowed everyone on the list, from the anoraks on downward, the opportunity to participate since we all know why we like or dislike certain songs. OK, most of us do. And I'm hoping it would prompt some regulars who have gone into hibernation to return with their good conversation and their knowledge. I'd volunteer to post a new song every week (and that's really the extent of its structure/formality). Thoughts? Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:57:00 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: a proposal (was Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay) >we had a long, successful run of "the song of the week." Good idea. How was the song of the week selected on the other list, 'cause I can see it descending into mayhem here if someone doesn't just say "this is the song"? I seem to recall some very interesting threads re the likes of 3 and 9 and She Sells from the not so distant past. But please God, let's not start with My Little Girl! Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:24:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: RE: a proposal (was Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay) On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Jocelyn Fiske wrote: > >we had a long, successful run of "the song of the week." > > Good idea. > > How was the song of the week selected on the other list, 'cause I can > see it descending into mayhem here if someone doesn't just say "this > is the song"? There was one person in charge of it--and I offered in my proposal to offer the song each week and to keep track of what had already been discussed. But that's the limit of control on it. > I seem to recall some very interesting threads re the likes of 3 and 9 > and She Sells from the not so distant past. But please God, let's not > start with My Little Girl! And don't forget A Song For Europe! Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:30:30 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: a proposal (was Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay) >And don't forget A Song For Europe! Colleen Jamais. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:35:35 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: RE: [AVALON] www.bryanferry.com On 22 Aug 2001, at 10:36, Jocelyn Fiske wrote: > Oh for the heady days of Peter Leay who ran the Roxy Music Fan Club > through the 70's when he'd let you know tour dates and priority booking > arrangements for Fan Club members BEFORE it was announced publicly. It > might have been snail mail but it still beats the non existent service we > receive now into a cocked hat. Does anyone know what happened to PL? Is he lurking? David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:41:52 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: a proposal (was Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay) Yes to the idea of a song of the week. Why don't we start with "Cry cry cry"? David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:42:20 EDT From: Ceesse@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] CD Tree Volunteers If I knew what a CD tree is, I'd help. Carol ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:44:24 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] www.bryanferry.com/Peter Leay He's around, he's still in touch with a number of us. A really nice guy too- always was. Genuine no secret agenda. He's working in the Mental Health Sector and is also involved in a couple of indie labels I believe so I doubt he has time to lurk here. He ran the RM club from Wallasey which wasn't too far from me when I was at college in Manchester and I used to pop over and see him from time to time and he always had some interesting info which EVERYONE got to share. You'd think it would be quite a simple blueprint to follow wouldn't you? Anyone else here used to meet him or have fond RM Fan Club memories? Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: David Squires [mailto:david@squires.nildram.co.uk] Sent: 22 August 2001 12:36 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] www.bryanferry.com On 22 Aug 2001, at 10:36, Jocelyn Fiske wrote: > Oh for the heady days of Peter Leay who ran the Roxy Music Fan Club > through the 70's when he'd let you know tour dates and priority booking > arrangements for Fan Club members BEFORE it was announced publicly. It > might have been snail mail but it still beats the non existent service we > receive now into a cocked hat. Does anyone know what happened to PL? Is he lurking? David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:52:21 +0100 From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" Subject: Re: a proposal (was Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay) >From: Colleen Matan > > I'd volunteer to post a new song every week (and that's really the extent > of its structure/formality). > > Thoughts? Alphabetical? Chronological? Reverse on either? Including covers and what it says about Bryan? I recall some interesting discussions and theories that TFT, ATAP and Taxi (and Siren for that matter) had some sort of concept and thread running through them which tied them together... ...but I also recall suggestions of Ferry/Roxy songs to play for the first dance at a wedding. There aren't half some filthy people around! ;-) SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 04:56:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] King logos - --- Judy Kaufman wrote: > I saw a TV show on *skin art* once. The artist being > interviewed had > tattooed the face of her favourite singer on her > left forearm - none other > than Sir Bryan himself. I met a bloke about 20 years ago who had a "Roxy Music" tattoo on one of his arms - suppose he was dedicated - I wonder if he still likes them now?? (maybe it's someone on this list!) Aleks Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:03:42 EDT From: Ceesse@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Glasgow in September Hi everyone Yes, I'm new to this, and not quite sure of how to approach this topic.... A friend and I are traveling from the US to see the Manchester show, and are now sure that we simply will not be able to live with ourselves if we don't go to Glasgow, too...but obviously, we don't know the venue, or a conveniently located hotel near by. and yes, we could troll the web, but I trust that some of you might be able to help us with some info. And I get the feeling I'd trust any of your considered opinions much more than a simple web search. Thanks, Carol ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:05:40 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay On 22 Aug 2001, at 11:13, A.L. Jepson wrote: > Oh well at least you've learnt something from my messages then. Lots about how miserably ill-informed you are. > By the way, what's dim about the 1980s despite the fact that they were > influenced by BF/RM? Do you want a long list you'll fail to understand? > I take it you don't like 80s music much. I apply the Jimmy Boyle ratio: "99% is shite". Then, now and in the future. Plenty of good music in the 1980's, much of which you won't have heard. > I do like Roxy Music you know but I don't see why should write an > essay to justify why I like the band. I'm meant to excuse your myopia? > However I'll briefly say that I think they are one of the world's most > creative bands to come out of the last century. This says much and so succinctly too. It's an attempt at an eulogy. What would be more interesting is to hear what they did to you. > I got into them via FTP as it's one of Martin Fry's favourite albums. Ah yes, the second album, File Transfer Protocol... > There's also the fact that I like a lot of bands from the 1980s were > cite Roxy as an influence. In English, please... > I have actually posted messages that are related to RM. Surely you > must've noticed them. Obviously not. Delta minus - probably can't do better. David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:10:01 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: RE: [AVALON] www.bryanferry.com/Peter Leay On 22 Aug 2001, at 12:44, Jocelyn Fiske wrote: > He's around, he's still in touch with a number of us. > > A really nice guy too- always was. Genuine no secret agenda. Thanks for this info. I never met Peter but spoke to him quite a bit on the phone and wrote letters. As you say, a genuine guy who shared what he knew. Such a change from the situation now! He won't remember me, but please pass on my regards. David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 05:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] interminable solos ??! - --- KB Porter wrote: > I thought Chris Spedding was exceptionally fine in > his contribution to > the current RM tour. > And as Alexs wrote "... but for me that particular > song just went on and on and on." I only wished that > particular song, and > others, had lasted > longer than they did. Maybe that wasn't one of my highlights of the set ,"Heart Still Beating" also fitted into that category. I'm not sure that I agree with KGP with regards to other songs lasting longer. I wish that more songs had been played, rather than any particular song lasting longer, but i don';t want to re-ignite the "set-list-length argument". For me the experience of a lifetime. > FYP came too soon. I waved > good-bye to each > player as they left the stage, tears streamed down > my face Sorry KBP, the tears in my eyes happened somewhat earlier, during Song For Europe, that coupled with MOP were two tracks that I'd always wanted to see close-up live. > no, they're leaving already Luckily I have the opportunity for another "fix" in September Aleks Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:58:05 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: a proposal (was Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay) - ----- >long, successful run of "the song of the week." It was pretty >simple--every week a song was chosen, the lyrics were posted, and a few >guiding questions were appended to assist in starting the discussion An excellent idea. You take charge, and start choosing. But you better do it fast: this being the Avalon list, we could well end up with a ferocious fight over which song should be first, whether there should be some conscious methodology to the choices ( I say not - random is best) or whether we should exclude cover versions ( I say not, actually.) We could all fall out with each other while the concept is still a mere glitter in the mind's eye! Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:51:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: a proposal (was Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay) On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Tim Kendrick wrote: > ----- > >long, successful run of "the song of the week." It was pretty > >simple--every week a song was chosen, the lyrics were posted, and a few > >guiding questions were appended to assist in starting the discussion > > An excellent idea. You take charge, and start choosing. But you better > do it fast: this being the Avalon list, we could well end up with a > ferocious fight over which song should be first, whether there should > be some conscious methodology to the choices ( I say not - random is > best) or whether we should exclude cover versions ( I say not, > actually.) We could all fall out with each other while the concept is > still a mere glitter in the mind's eye! As I was rambling around earlier this morning I was thinking about what the methodology should be. I'm Type A, but I'm not TA/O(bsessive), which is borne out by the current status of my library, so I tend to prefer slightly organized chaos. And I also think that the songs work best if chosen on a random basis so as to catch people who came into the Roxy/Ferry trajectory at various points and that cover versions should be included since Ferry's covers are so, well, original. Thanks to Tim for this and to everyone for the feedback thus far on- and off-list. Unless there are some major objections to this idea I will choose the first song and post it this evening. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:54:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: a proposal (was Re: [AVALON] AJ's essay) On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, SIMON GALLOWAY wrote: > what it says about Bryan? I recall some interesting discussions and > theories that TFT, ATAP and Taxi (and Siren for that matter) had some > sort of concept and thread running through them which tied them > together... The great thing about this as I have seen it work in the past is that it opens up all sorts of discussions beyond just the song itself. It's sort of like "table topics" for anyone familiar with Toastmasters. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:59:32 +0000 From: "Ann Marie Shaw" Subject: [none] Hello everyone, this is my first e-mail to this list, so I hope it works. I found this mailing list through links from some of the websites and I am glad to see there is still so much interest in this great band. I was wondering if any of you had spare tickets for the Roxy Music show at Manchester on 28th September. I went to the Wembley show 3rd night and regret I didn't see the other two. Ann Marie _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:13:44 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bushwackin' for bootlegs! >Since she only ever did one tour, and that not only highly choreographed >but readily available on fairly well-produced video, is there really any >point to these? > >Or *drool* have KT Bush Band tapes actually turned up after all these years? > > > -wfs (hoping the reference isn't merely to the 'Cathy Demos' et al) It's true that there are comparatively few Kate Bush bootlegs, for the reasons you've specified. I have what you may well mean by the Cathy demos - 30 beautiful tracks, most never worked up into records, which were put out on two factory-made bootleg cds by a set-up calling itself CHAPTER ONE. There is also a session with Dave Gilmour from which I have only one track, ORGANIC ACID. ( Anyone who has the rest... I'd love 'em!) But there's also the odd TV appearance, a performance of two Beatles songs, an Abbey road out-take of UNDER THE IVY, and also a BBC TV special from the late seventies which includes pre-album versions of a handful of songs. (I don't know if there's a CD version of that - the one I have is a wobbly PAL video copy.) Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #395 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest