From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #388 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, August 20 2001 Volume 06 : Number 388 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Geography 101 ["tmoq" ] [AVALON] thank you roxers [Glen Lehman ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy in Melbourne ["Tim Kendrick" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy at Wembley (was Roxy in Melbourne) ["Tim Kendrick" ] [AVALON] Milano italy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ["the bogus man" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Time Out review [AMeyersLD@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxy in Melbourne ["tmoq" ] [AVALON] Owings Mills ["Paul Bodine" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy in Melbourne [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxy at Wembley (was Roxy in Melbourne) ["Sally-Ann Barbera"] Re: [AVALON] Where's everyone from ? ["Becky Payne" ] R: [AVALON] Where's everyone from ? ["the bogus man" ] Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? [Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Geography 101 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Goggans" To: Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 2:30 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Geography 101 > I was wondering about this Thursday... Manzanera's site says that Roxy > played Baltimore on May 31 1974. Does anyone know how close Owens Mill is > to Bawlmer? That`s the date given for this show. The location is probably right, someone just mislabeled the state. Anyway, it`s all cleaned up and ready to go. Also, anyone familar with Bowie`s Diamond Dogs tour will find an interesting simularity between the intro Bowie used and the intro Roxy used for this show....way too close to be a coinscience. Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:03:15 +0930 From: Glen Lehman Subject: [AVALON] thank you roxers I just really want to say a very big "thank you" to especially *****but not limited to*******Professor Johnny Reece (but not for making me work hard on me old betas)**TVG , Chris Turner***Queen Jocelyn of Avalon***the self-appointed king of Avalon--Martin Stockman***Dr Richard Swift**the voice of the BBC , Ivor Canning (aka Henry Blofield)***the enigmatic Simon G***Lee S***Vapor****Nurse Kim***'Siren' Therese and her family at the Glascow show. And the many, many others who have made my recent trips to the UK the "bestest" ever. I will never say another nasty thing about Poms...(again)....(But I still hate the English cricketer , Ian Botham for making my youth a misery). Hey, everyone in Adelaide is still talking about the Roxy Party of Friday night..... I was wrong: it finished up at 5 in the morning (apparently). The concert went off big time, the party was well.....hold on I am a coming to glascow. ...could that be the end the bitters end...the eschatological end.???????.......glen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 08:12:22 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy in Melbourne >> Did anyone else notice these "interminable solos", Well, it had never crossed my mind that any of Roxy's tunes were too long, whether live or on record, but my partner, who had not given them much thought before meeting me, often remarks that nearly all their work goes on too long. I can still barely come to terms with living with someone who thinks much of FOR YOUR PLEASURE is boring and overlong...! Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 08:26:01 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy at Wembley (was Roxy in Melbourne) >My overwhelming feeling is still one of amazement - and, it has to be said, >some relief - that Roxy 2001 were far, far better than I ever dared hope >they would be. I feel the same way. I was nervous about the New York concert, and endded up having the time of my life - I thought the whole show enchanting and thrilling, right up to the feathered girls who aroused Colleen's wrath. ( I noticed, however, that as they didn't come on until the encore, theoretically at least they might have been stuck in their dressing rooms forever, had the audience not called for one. As if such a thing could happen at a pop concert! But having a special cast for your encore takes away even the very tenuous sense of unexpectedness -" You want more? How flattering, what a surprise!" ) I chose not to post a detailed review, partly because lots of other people were already doing a very fine job in that quarter, and also to be honest because without a pencil and paper I couldn't remember enough of the details! I'm always impressed by the way the more heroic members of this list, despite pre-concert social gatherings in which, if one believes their posts, enough booze is consumed to kill lesser men, manage to distill every fluffed sax solo, every beat of the drum, every wobble of feathered bottoms. Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 11:50:35 -0400 From: David Neuhaus Subject: Re: [AVALON] Geography 101 Approx. 5 miles northwest of Baltimore is a town called Owings Mills. Hope this helps. Dave N. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:10:56 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: [AVALON] Milano italy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hey ava_loners did someone find tickets for the filaforum Milano concert? and how many of us want to go there? danitaly ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:05:36 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan in W-magazine There is a 2 page story about Ferry/Roxy in W-magazine. No new insights but a funny picture of bryan in a Messerschmidt. (Very small car, only two seat behind each other) Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 15:05:59 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Time Out review In a message dated 8/17/01 1:15:37 PM, eddieriff@yahoo.com writes: << >> I respect everyone's opinion, but this Ross character sounds like he >> has some underlying problem? > > No, he has a different opinion. >> Clearly, he's not one of us. Well, I think he should be punished by NOT being invited for Martinis. But thats about as bitter as I am willing to get on this matter. Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 16:35:31 -0400 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy in Melbourne - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kendrick" To: Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy in Melbourne >I can still barely come to terms with living with someone > who thinks much of FOR YOUR PLEASURE is boring and overlong...! > > Tim Why that......A pox on his house! Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 15:43:38 -0500 From: "Paul Bodine" Subject: [AVALON] Owings Mills >Does anyone know how close Owens Mill is >to Bawlmer? As a one-time Bawlmerian I can attest that Owings Mills (not Owens) is an outlying suburb of Baltimore. Paul in Milwaukee (now) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 18:12:11 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy in Melbourne In a message dated 08/18/2001 10:54:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, terrypaulrigz8c@supanet.com writes: > I would have loved the guitar/oboe/violin version of ITIS (Viva! style). > And don't forget the mellotron at the crescendo. If it was in the mix on this tour, I missed it. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 08:25:48 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy at Wembley (was Roxy in Melbourne) Me too Tim! I can't even remember what order they sang the songs in! But, I too had that feeling of relief. Almost to the point of not wanting to go in case they had 'passed it'...wash my mouth out!!!! I still can't get over the Rove interview though. How to make an audience just not 'get it'! "So, hows touring with a rock band 20 years on, are you still smashing up hotel rooms?" I mean pleeeease!!!! who wrote this guys questions???? Bryan looked rather bemused I thought. To the UK Avalonians: has he ever been interviewed by someone like Parkinson? You know, someone good that isn't in the music business? And another head count...where is everyone from here?? Cheers Sally - -----Original Message----- From: Tim Kendrick To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Sunday, 19 August 2001 22:51 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy at Wembley (was Roxy in Melbourne) >>My overwhelming feeling is still one of amazement - and, it has to be said, >>some relief - that Roxy 2001 were far, far better than I ever dared hope >>they would be. > > >I feel the same way. I was nervous about the New York concert, and >endded up having the time of my life - I thought the whole show enchanting >and thrilling, right up to the feathered girls who aroused Colleen's >wrath. ( I noticed, however, that as they didn't come on until the encore, >theoretically at least they might have been stuck in their dressing rooms >forever, >had the audience not called for one. As if such a thing could happen at a >pop concert! >But having a special cast for your encore takes away even the very tenuous >sense of unexpectedness -" You want more? How flattering, what a >surprise!" ) > >I chose not to post a detailed review, partly because lots of other people >were already >doing a very fine job in that quarter, and also to be honest because without >a pencil and >paper I couldn't remember enough of the details! I'm always impressed by the >way >the more heroic members of this list, despite pre-concert social gatherings >in >which, if one believes their posts, enough booze is consumed to kill lesser >men, manage >to distill every fluffed sax solo, every beat of the drum, every wobble of >feathered >bottoms. > >Tim > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 23:02:04 +0000 From: "Becky Payne" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where's everyone from ? I'm from the Midlands in UK. I wonder if most people on the list are from the UK too ? I get the impression that Roxy were more famous over here.... Becky x >And another head count...where is everyone from here?? >Cheers >Sally _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:16:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? In an attempt to perhaps stave off the transformation of the list into an AOL chat room ("age/sex check!"), allow me to offer a few resources for new folks who might be curious: Profiles and photos of Avalon members: www.roxytalk.co.uk (aka "Kicki's page," although Chris looks after it now) Articles about Roxy (by no means an exhaustive list of websites, but a start): www.roxytalk.co.uk www.roxyrama.com www.vivaroxymusic.com Avalon list archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/avalon/ (not searchable but at times very interesting reading) Colleen, list schoolmarm ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:25:23 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: R: [AVALON] Where's everyone from ? WELL THERE'S A BUNCH OF ITALIANS HERE ROXY MUSIC LOVER TOO .-)))))))))))))))) CIAO BECKY DANITALY - -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: "Becky Payne" A: Data invio: lunedl 20 agosto 2001 1.02 Oggetto: Re: [AVALON] Where's everyone from ? > I'm from the Midlands in UK. I wonder if most people on the list are from > the UK too ? I get the impression that Roxy were more famous over here.... > > Becky x > > > >And another head count...where is everyone from here?? > >Cheers > >Sally > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:24:43 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? Oh. I'm so sorry Colleen...is this lowering the intellectual tone???!!!! - -----Original Message----- From: Colleen Matan To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Monday, 20 August 2001 9:16 Subject: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? >In an attempt to perhaps stave off the transformation of the list into an >AOL chat room ("age/sex check!"), allow me to offer a few resources for >new folks who might be curious: > > Profiles and photos of Avalon members: www.roxytalk.co.uk (aka > "Kicki's page," although Chris looks after it now) > > Articles about Roxy (by no means an exhaustive list of websites, > but a start): www.roxytalk.co.uk > www.roxyrama.com > www.vivaroxymusic.com > > Avalon list archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/avalon/ (not > searchable but at times very interesting reading) > > >Colleen, list schoolmarm > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 16:38:53 -0700 From: Julie Long Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where's everyone from ? Hi there -- I mostly lurk, from San Francisco. The Concord show was fabulous, a dream come true. Julie Becky Payne wrote: > I'm from the Midlands in UK. I wonder if most people on the list are from > the UK too ? I get the impression that Roxy were more famous over here.... > > Becky x > > >And another head count...where is everyone from here?? > >Cheers > >Sally > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 19:48:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Sally-Ann Barbera wrote: > Oh. I'm so sorry Colleen...is this lowering the intellectual tone???!!!! In a word, "yes." If I'm particularly cranky about this at the moment it's because I'm one of the Olde Olde Timers. When I got here 6 or so years ago there were just about 35 or so of us. There was no Roxy/Ferry activity at all yet the list managed to survive without the huge amount of off-topic chatter it has devolved into over the last few months. There's a lot of list traffic at the moment, and I don't know that 50 answers a day (especially from folks who can't trim posts and repost a string of messages) of "Fort Necessity, PA" or "16 1/2" add anything to the list. For what it's worth, and before I get told I'm a big meanie for not wanting to read tons of posts full only of personal details, I have been able to make a number of friends on this list without broadcasting my personal details in isolated posts to the list (and via private email). It's very easy to share information about yourself on the list, both via a profile on the list's homepage and within the context of a more-or-less on-topic post. In addition, given the wealth of information on the Web, it's not asking too much that folks perhaps do a quick search for answers instead of expecting chapter and verse, especially on non-Roxy topics, from list members. As they used to say about USENET: "[it's] not 'write-only.'" I understand a certain amount of nonsense (for lack of a better word) is unavoidable on mailing lists, and Lord knows I've contributed more than my share right here in the past. No doubt I will continue to do so. But it's been more-or-less in context and on-topic and I make no apologies for my personal desire for folks to stick to the topic of this list, particularly given it's current volume of traffic. I know I'm not the only person who feels this way (although I may well be the only one to say it out loud). Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:08:59 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? Well Colleen, perhaps you should start your own elitist list and then you can keep out the riff raff who actually are interested to know where people are from merely to get an idea of how far the Roxy thing is still going. Also as a World Tour is on at the moment I thought it may be topical...give us an idea of who has seen them and who is yet to.. Still, now that you have made more of this than is necessary...not to mention taking up time and space that SHOULD have been dedicated to Roxy, I shall bugger off. Had no idea of the netiquette here as I'm new myself...not one of the Oldies (sorry!). Anyway, you can have it back...sorry for wasting your time and thanks for the welcome! >I understand a certain amount of nonsense (for lack of a better word) is >unavoidable on mailing lists, and Lord knows I've contributed more than my >share right here in the past. No doubt I will continue to do so. No arguments on that one! Cheers Sally...who is from Sydney, but that's getting off the subject! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:26:02 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where's everyone from ? E-mail addresses are not an ideal indication of location, but from experience I would suggest that of the 496 current members of this forum, approximately half are from the United States, with 15-20% from the UK and the remainder from the rest of the World. There are strong representations from mainland European and Scandinavian countries, Japan, Australasia and Canada, with smaller Roxy contingents in South America and Eastern Europe. Africa, the Middle East and Asia other than Japan are much less well covered. Statto - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Becky Payne" To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where's everyone from ? > I'm from the Midlands in UK. I wonder if most people on the list are from > the UK too ? I get the impression that Roxy were more famous over here.... > > Becky x > > > >And another head count...where is everyone from here?? > >Cheers > >Sally ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:24:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? [posted and emailed] I don't want anyone to leave the list. I'm speaking only for myself, and I am known for being rather forthright. Every mailing list has its own culture and I am not entirely pleased with the fact that there is no longer an attempt being made to find out what that particular culture is. I apologize, Sally-Ann, if I have hurt your feelings. You were just being enthusiastic and you caught the lightning stroke after a few months of behavior by others. Certainly you didn't mean to be rude as one new member takes pride in being. I hope you will reconsider your decision to leave the list. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:31:06 +0000 From: "Becky Payne" Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? Oh don't leave the list Sally ! I've been a member here for about 3 months and you soon work out who's friendly and who isn't (and you steer clear of those ones !) Most people on here are very friendly and willing to get to know newcomers. I always like to meet new people. You can never have too many friends in life afterall. Stick around ! Becky x > >Well Colleen, perhaps you should start your own elitist list and then you >can keep out the riff raff who actually are interested to know where people >are from merely to get an idea of how far the Roxy thing is still going. >Also as a World Tour is on at the moment I thought it may be topical...give >us an idea of who has seen them and who is yet to.. Still, now that you >have >made more of this than is necessary...not to mention taking up time and >space that SHOULD have been dedicated to Roxy, I shall bugger off. Had no >idea of the netiquette here as I'm new myself...not one of the Oldies >(sorry!). Anyway, you can have it back...sorry for wasting your time and >thanks for the welcome! > > >I understand a certain amount of nonsense (for lack of a better word) is > >unavoidable on mailing lists, and Lord knows I've contributed more than >my > >share right here in the past. No doubt I will continue to do so. > >No arguments on that one! > >Cheers >Sally...who is from Sydney, but that's getting off the subject! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:36:28 +0000 From: "Becky Payne" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where's everyone from ? Thanks for your reply Chris. This is certainly a big group of people ! 496 ! No wonder I get so many e-mails in a day ;) Becky x > >E-mail addresses are not an ideal indication of location, but from >experience I would suggest that of the 496 current members of this forum, >approximately half are from the United States, with 15-20% from the UK and >the remainder from the rest of the World. There are strong representations >from mainland European and Scandinavian countries, Japan, Australasia and >Canada, with smaller Roxy contingents in South America and Eastern Europe. >Africa, the Middle East and Asia other than Japan are much less well >covered. > >Statto _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 17:48:13 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? At 10:08 AM 8/20/01 +1000, Sally-Ann Barbera wrote: > Well Colleen, perhaps you should start your own elitist list and > then you can keep out the riff raff who actually are interested to > know where people are from merely to get an idea of how far the Roxy > thing is still going. *sigh* Colleen presented a list of URLs which would not only aid you in your quest for such info, but provide you with far more of it than you'd ever receive from individual responses. Had you taken a few minutes to begin investigating them -- and most especially the 100 or so *list member profiles* in the very first one -- rather than immediately snipe, you might have found precisely what you were looking for and managed to keep the tone of your own response civil, if not outright thanked her for the pointers. > Also as a World Tour is on at the moment I thought it may be topical >...give us an idea of who has seen them and who is yet to.. Again, see the URLs already provided, as well as http://www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html (which is somewhat "empty" at the moment, since David has been "removing" the attendee info once the gig has already happened... but does still show the upcoming return to Europe dates). > Had no idea of the netiquette here as I'm new myself... As you are clearly familiar with the term, I will simply point out that it is essentially the same netiquette as exists anywhere else in your 'net wanderings. -wfs ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 01:53:39 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where's everyone from ? There are a number of obsolete e-mail addresses on the list, and several people listed under multiple addresses. Avalon's real population is probably around 380-400 people, and has grown significantly in the last nine months. Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Becky Payne" To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where's everyone from ? > Thanks for your reply Chris. This is certainly a big group of people ! 496 ! > No wonder I get so many e-mails in a day ;) > > Becky x ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:53:21 -0400 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? OK.....I am back.....did you get them OK. John - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? > [posted and emailed] > > I don't want anyone to leave the list. I'm speaking only for myself, and > I am known for being rather forthright. Every mailing list has its own > culture and I am not entirely pleased with the fact that there is no > longer an attempt being made to find out what that particular culture is. > > I apologize, Sally-Ann, if I have hurt your feelings. You were just > being enthusiastic and you caught the lightning stroke after a few months > of behavior by others. Certainly you didn't mean to be rude as one new > member takes pride in being. > > I hope you will reconsider your decision to leave the list. > > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:46:31 +1000 From: "S Clarke" Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? Hi Sally Shelley from Canberra here. I caught the Melbourne show last week and I'm still floating around in dream land. On the topic of Colleen, she frequently sounds off in that bitchy, snobby tone . Sometimes she has very interesting things to say but she can often sound like a vicious second former and has given me a serious case of the shits (excuse me) several times. However, on the topic of the Avalon list members, most (and I do mean most) of them are lovely, fun, smart, generous beings. Please do not let Colleen rob you of a terrific experience - being an Avalonian. I joined late last year before the plane drama and before the tour announcement. It has been wonderful to read all the ravings and rantings, especially from the genuine fan-atics. In that time I have mostly lurked but I have posted occasionally. On the whole, Avalonia is a heap of fun. Hang in. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" To: Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? > Well Colleen, perhaps you should start your own elitist list and then you > can keep out the riff raff who actually are interested to know where people > are from merely to get an idea of how far the Roxy thing is still going. > Also as a World Tour is on at the moment I thought it may be topical...give > us an idea of who has seen them and who is yet to.. Still, now that you have > made more of this than is necessary...not to mention taking up time and > space that SHOULD have been dedicated to Roxy, I shall bugger off. Had no > idea of the netiquette here as I'm new myself...not one of the Oldies > (sorry!). Anyway, you can have it back...sorry for wasting your time and > thanks for the welcome! > > >I understand a certain amount of nonsense (for lack of a better word) is > >unavoidable on mailing lists, and Lord knows I've contributed more than my > >share right here in the past. No doubt I will continue to do so. > > No arguments on that one! > > Cheers > Sally...who is from Sydney, but that's getting off the subject! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:47:19 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? Thank you Colleen. Apology accepted...I'll stay now :) - -----Original Message----- From: Colleen Matan To: Sally-Ann Barbera Cc: avalon@smoe.org Date: Monday, 20 August 2001 10:24 Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? >[posted and emailed] > >I don't want anyone to leave the list. I'm speaking only for myself, and >I am known for being rather forthright. Every mailing list has its own >culture and I am not entirely pleased with the fact that there is no >longer an attempt being made to find out what that particular culture is. > >I apologize, Sally-Ann, if I have hurt your feelings. You were just >being enthusiastic and you caught the lightning stroke after a few months >of behavior by others. Certainly you didn't mean to be rude as one new >member takes pride in being. > >I hope you will reconsider your decision to leave the list. > >Colleen > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 22:56:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, S Clarke wrote: > Hi Sally > > Shelley from Canberra here. I caught the Melbourne show last week and > I'm still floating around in dream land. > > On the topic of Colleen, she frequently sounds off in that bitchy, > snobby tone . Sometimes she has very interesting things to say but she > can often sound like a vicious second former and has given me a > serious case of the shits (excuse me) several times. > > However, on the topic of the Avalon list members, most (and I do mean > most) of them are lovely, fun, smart, generous beings. Please do not > let Colleen rob you of a terrific experience - being an Avalonian. > > I joined late last year before the plane drama and before the tour > announcement. It has been wonderful to read all the ravings and > rantings, especially from the genuine fan-atics. In that time I have > mostly lurked but I have posted occasionally. On the whole, Avalonia > is a heap of fun. > > Hang in. That all may be true, but please note this as well: Colleen has never stooped to posting anything like this to the list. Ever. Might I also suggest that when resident in largely glass covered dwellings, the throwing of gravel, pebbles or rocks large or small is likely to be detrimental to the constitution of the windows. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:25:21 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? oh bugger off william..it's all sorted now. lets move on... - -----Original Message----- From: William Sommers To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Monday, 20 August 2001 13:20 Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? >At 10:08 AM 8/20/01 +1000, Sally-Ann Barbera wrote: > > > Well Colleen, perhaps you should start your own elitist list and > > then you can keep out the riff raff who actually are interested to > > know where people are from merely to get an idea of how far the Roxy > > thing is still going. > >*sigh* > >Colleen presented a list of URLs which would not only aid you in your quest >for such info, but provide you with far more of it than you'd ever receive >from individual responses. > >Had you taken a few minutes to begin investigating them -- and most >especially the 100 or so *list member profiles* in the very first one -- >rather than immediately snipe, you might have found precisely what you were >looking for and managed to keep the tone of your own response civil, if not >outright thanked her for the pointers. > > > Also as a World Tour is on at the moment I thought it may be topical > >...give us an idea of who has seen them and who is yet to.. > >Again, see the URLs already provided, as well as >http://www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html (which is somewhat "empty" at >the moment, since David has been "removing" the attendee info once the gig >has already happened... but does still show the upcoming return to Europe >dates). > > > Had no idea of the netiquette here as I'm new myself... > >As you are clearly familiar with the term, I will simply point out that it >is essentially the same netiquette as exists anywhere else in your 'net >wanderings. > > > -wfs > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:35:58 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here? At 01:25 PM 8/20/01 +1000, Sally-Ann Barbera wrote: > oh bugger off william..it's all sorted now. lets move on... Okay then, perhaps I was wrong. It would seem the netiquette with which you are familiar is not at all of the sort we prefer around here. -wfs ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:10:45 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: [AVALON] where am I and how did I get here, wher i'm going, who is my creator , had i one? Hey we cannot miss a "barbera" who's talking is an italian wine lover LOL happy that's all this silly argument went off :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) baci dall'italia and "salute" ( cheers ) to all of u danilo ;-) hic ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #388 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest