From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #377 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, August 15 2001 Volume 06 : Number 377 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges ["A.L. Jepson" ] Re: [AVALON] Brisbane: JOB's Question [EJDalseme@aol.com] [AVALON] The Dead ["Eman 97" ] RE: [AVALON] Brisbane: JOB's Question [Rosalind Bull ] [AVALON] RE: avalon-digest V6 #376 ["Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" ] Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges ["David Squires " ] [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? ["SIMON GALLOWAY" ] Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? ["thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges And what are you exactly implying Colleen? You've missed the joke entirely. If I'm not as nearly intelligent as you've suggested then what I'm doing at University then? I wasn't surprised to find you making those sort of comments. Alan (who is proud to be rude even though it was not his intention as usual) Colleen Matan wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, A.L. Jepson wrote: > > > I didn't see your children. Are they fans? It can be quite worrying > > when fans start bringing their kids along to a gig. It gives you an > > idea of the average age of what the audience is in general. > > > > Alan > > > > "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" wrote: > > > > > > You didn't see my 12 yr old daughter and 10 yr old son then on the > > > front row? > > Really? I find the fans in their 20s much more worrying since they are > much more rude. And often not nearly as intelligent. > > Colleen > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:11:59 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges I'm not phobic about children. What I posted was a joke. In fact, that particular joke about fans bringing thier children to concerts was passed onto to me by someone else. Alan David Squires wrote: > > On 14 Aug 2001, at 16:51, A.L. Jepson wrote: > > > I didn't see your children. Are they fans? It can be quite worrying > > when fans start bringing their kids along to a gig. It gives you an > > idea of the average age of what the audience is in general. > > Are you phobic about children? I am, but then I've got three! But what do > you expect from concerts from a band formed in 1971? It's getting to be a > long time ago for those of us around at the time... > > David > > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:48:21 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #376 >Were Roxy the last truly FUN band, and intelligent too? No. Unless you have stopped listening to music after they disbanded, that is. Colleen Exscuse me, do you have a clue? Thought not. Education: It is what's known as a 'rhetorical question' Colleen. Rhe-tor-i-cal. ..Look it up. e ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 04:51:16 EDT From: EJDalseme@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brisbane: JOB's Question Thanks for the anwers Glen, I have added your answers to the site. regards, Emma ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:59:26 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] The Dead >What did the Gratfeul Dead fan say when he/she ran out of drugs? >"Christ, this band's shit!" LMFAO! Having spent enough time in certain regions of California, this really made me laugh. e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:05:20 +0100 From: Rosalind Bull Subject: RE: [AVALON] Brisbane: JOB's Question Being interviewed last night he seemed to prefer crowds who "bogey" to use Mr F's words. Glen Glen, I think that must be boogie as bogey is an entirely different thing, and an entire audience "bogeying" calls to mind a frankly revolting mental picture! Has the great man finally answered the great 'sit down v. stand up and dance' debate that had reached Sophoclean proportions a while ago. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:09:22 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sydney Review: Great Show / Great Crowd I was there...it was a fantastic show. Shame about Brisbane, but then what can you expect from the Queenslanders!! I have been a fan since I was 12, when Virginia Plain came out. Remember walking around in Biba's, High St.Ken, listening to Out of the Blue and trying to look 19 and like a Roxy Model (not a good look for a 14 year old!) Came out to Australia around the Boys & Girls era. Being at the concert on Monday night was like watching 30 years of my life in music! I saw them at Wembley..God knows when! and here in Sydney (just the solo tour) can't remember when that was either! 'bout 92??? But this was better than I could have possibly expected. And a huge crowd, thank God..was terrified the Aussies would have forgotten him (how wreteched was i too! LOL)! But no...it was bliss! - -----Original Message----- From: Glen Lehman To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, 15 August 2001 15:34 Subject: [AVALON] Sydney Review: Great Show / Great Crowd >Sydney Morning Herald Review. >"Wow You Couldn't ask for more than this" > >Bugger. I came prepared to be bored. I came prepared to sneer at comfortable >late-middle-aged men playing parlour music to comfortable middle-aged men and >women on their one night out for the month. It seemed a fair enough >assumption. After all, the people paying $25 for their glossy programs with >lots of pictures but little of substance (after buying $80-plus tickets) were >coming for Avalon, for More Than This, for songs that have kept 2WS-type >stations in advertising dollars for two decades now. Ho-bleeding-hum. >But Roxy Music let me down; they were anything but boring. Even better, they >were taking chances again. And taking chances is something that went out the >window by the end of the '70s when everything became unbearably slick like >Bryan Ferry's hair, saxophonist Andy Mackay was preparing the way for Kenny G >and guitarist Phil Manzanera was hobbled by blandom. > >Yet the band began the night with the ragged propulsion of ReMake - ReModel >from the first Roxy Music album. It was arch and raw at the same time, Paul >Thompson's drums making a rumbling demand on the senses and Manzanera and >second guitarist Chris Spedding beginning a sparring that would enliven almost >every song. > >Soon Out Of The Blue was romping and later the slow dramatic build of In Every >Dream Home A Heartache exploded in its climax of anger and sleaze. This wasn't >exactly art rock's legions unleashed - familiarity has lessened the initial >shock of the early Roxy Music and the sound at times was too cluttered with >two synths and a piano in there, too - but we were seeing a genuinely radical >band still taking the line between noise and pop and blurring it. > >Some of Manzanera's lines were less melodic than an insertion of a cold rod >followed by a hot poker and you willed him on to letting loose while Mackay >honked and squawked invitingly. Just as importantly, Ferry's highly mannered >vocals preened and primped, the aural equivalent of a strutting dandy. Outside >his croon he isn't a great singer but he is a flamboyant deliverer of a line. > >For the annoyed man who, after half an hour of challenging material, yelled >out "play something good" there were the middle-of-the-road moments of smooth >(My Only Love, Avalon) and even a little jaunty (Oh Yeah). But each time we >veered to the middle this vehicle was swung back to the fringes such as the >camp neo-Piaf A Song for Europe, a high-heeled-boots take on Virginia Plain >and a rip snorting version of Mother of Pearl. > >Just as the opening song said something about their intent, so did the closing >number. After swaggering through The Strand they could have walked off on an >easy high. Instead they pulled back for the decidedly odd - a stop-start >rhythm, slightly "off" melody - and fascinating For Your Pleasure, a song for >the brain, not the wallet. A Roxy Music concert in 2001 wasn't meant to be >this interesting. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:15:54 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brisbane: JOB's Question LOL...Boogie it was!!! Unfortunately thats what the Aussie's call bogey...boogie...they have a strange language out here! LOL - -----Original Message----- From: Rosalind Bull To: 'avalon@smoe.org' Date: Wednesday, 15 August 2001 19:06 Subject: RE: [AVALON] Brisbane: JOB's Question >Being interviewed last night he seemed to prefer crowds who "bogey" to use >Mr >F's words. >Glen > > >Glen, I think that must be boogie as bogey is an entirely different thing, >and an entire audience "bogeying" calls to mind a frankly revolting mental >picture! > >Has the great man finally answered the great 'sit down v. stand up and >dance' debate that had reached Sophoclean proportions a while ago. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:13:07 +0930 From: "Glen Lehman" Subject: [AVALON] boogie.....sorry Sorry for my typing error , as I was transcribing from my tape (read my earlier post regarding my typing)... On 'Rove Live' he simply pointed out that he adjusts to different audiences. I have been lucky enough to witness many shows on this tour and his efforts in Brisbane amazed me. A lot of Jocelyn's comments are apposite. He laughed when no-one sang the last line to "Virginia Plain"---...Glen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:07:23 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: [AVALON] RE: avalon-digest V6 #376 An old friend of mine dragged me along to see THE TUBES (in about '79 at the Odeon in Birmingham?) who I had never even heard of. They were FUN/intelligent and had apparently toned their act down somewhat. I hear they're touring again - anyone seen them in the States - is Fee still wearing his 12 inch (or should I say 30cm) heels? I bet they're even funnier now. Chris Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:22:19 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #375 >Were Roxy the last truly FUN band, and intelligent too? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:34:48 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] FYI: MP# of BBC2 23 June 2001 Roxy Show on Winmx FYI: For those on the look out for a quick score of teh Rocy BBC2 Show from June 23...it can be found occassionally via Winmx, a Napster like 'service,' that is growing every day as Napster is still dark. e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:44:50 EDT From: Ceesse@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Things to bring... I prefer the McCallan.... Molotov cockails make me head for the Tums... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:43:57 +1000 From: "Sally-Ann Barbera" Subject: Re: [AVALON] boogie.....sorry Glen, you saw the Brisbane concert? Do tell! Why did his efforts amaze you? - -----Original Message----- From: Glen Lehman To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, 15 August 2001 19:43 Subject: [AVALON] boogie.....sorry >Sorry for my typing error , as I was transcribing from my tape (read my >earlier post regarding my typing)... > >On 'Rove Live' he simply pointed out that he adjusts to different audiences. I >have been lucky enough to witness many shows on this tour and his efforts in >Brisbane amazed me. > >A lot of Jocelyn's comments are apposite. He laughed when no-one sang the >last line to "Virginia Plain"---...Glen > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:34:50 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges On 15 Aug 2001, at 9:09, A.L. Jepson wrote: > If I'm not as nearly intelligent as you've suggested then what I'm > doing at University then? Enlighten us. David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:37:13 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges On 15 Aug 2001, at 9:11, A.L. Jepson wrote: > I'm not phobic about children. What I posted was a joke. In fact, that > particular joke about fans bringing thier children to concerts was passed > onto to me by someone else. Must be a throwback to that alternative comedy which we all laughed at during the riots in the '80's. No, actually some of that was quite funny... David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:48:26 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges Ah that's for Coleen to answer. On the other hand, if I was to enlighten you all then perhaps money plays great part in one's academic education these days. I'll say no more. Alan David Squires wrote: > > On 15 Aug 2001, at 9:09, A.L. Jepson wrote: > > > If I'm not as nearly intelligent as you've suggested then what I'm > > doing at University then? > > Enlighten us. > > David > > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:40:33 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Can I get a head count? Like Richard, I was into Yes, Genesis, not ELP but King Crimson, before Roxy. Apart from Bowie, Japa, Talking Heads etc I like American mainstream, soul and other styles. I am also 41. NP Marvin Gaye, Inner City Blues Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:04:04 +0100 From: Michael Hill Subject: RE: [AVALON] Michael Hill How sweet! Why can't more people say that to me! I think some people my age just aren't open-minded enough-if the "hip youth majority" say something's not cool, then it just ain't cool-that's why so many kids listen to trashy pop and substanceless shock rock:peer pressure. Although i can listen to, and enjoy, anything; I do it independently. Too many people i know listen to music because someone "significant" told them it was good. Usually poorly informed celebrities can get a song to number 1, just by saying they like it. Take Carson Daly on MTV-he has a huge influence on people as a video jockey. But the sad thing is, one of the reasons why some young people don't listen to Roxy&co, even if they would like it, is because someone will pipe up with comments such as:"My Dad listens to them!" Have they ever thought that their dad might have good taste? I have friends who now like Roxy because I let them hear some of their stuff, but they still had to be convinced that it's not just music for parents! Maybe older people are just too cool for us whippersnappers! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:17:02 +0100 From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" Subject: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? I've been putting a few CDs and records away and wondered about the other artists in my collection that are either side of Roxy and Ferry... I (try to) keep my collection alphabetically (it helps me find things five years later), but in my 7" singles collection I've always had the Roxy singles first, then Ferry singles, then it moves on to David Bowie. And it's the same for the album (vinyl) collection. But, when it comes to CDs, I've kept them all properly alphabetically, so either side of the Roxy albums are Mick Ronson and Todd Rundgren, and for Ferry it's Fatboy Slim and the Flamin' Groovies. CD singles: Roxy (all three of them) - Mick Ronson and The Rutles, Ferry - Fatima Mansions and Filter. So there! What's yours..? SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:21:24 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #376 >Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:22:19 -0700 >From: "Eman 97" >Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #375 > >With many bands, the fans are fans of the music. And very enthused for >"their" band. But they rarely rave about say...the lyrics, the style, the >humour etc. Sure some do, but it isn't as common as the average Roxy >discussion, where the lyrics and style changes are often discussed, with >joy >and humour. > >Were Roxy the last truly FUN band, and intelligent too? I would argue that fun and intelligence have rarely been traits that have brooked much attention from radio programmers. American rawk-n-roll has long been so earnest, there seems to be a feeling that if you're not pouring your heart into something incredibly meaningful, then you're not being true or something, which is where all this angst-ridden crap like Pearl Jam and Nirvana and Soundgarden and those guys who did the "We are only freshmen" song came from. This is why Robbie Williams will never break America. There's still a lot of really good, intelligently written music out there for literate souls, performed with enough style, panache and lightness-of-hand that it's all very fun indeed. Plenty of it's at the local level. Athens has been home to many acts that fit your bill, like Eight-Track Gorilla, Of Montreal, Elf Power and the dearly-missed Pez, whose guitarist once "rebelled" against their ska cover of "I Want to Hold Your Hand" one night by dropping "dead" on stage and not getting up for the rest of the set. If I lived in Denver, I'd have seen Dressy Bessy a dozen times by now; their album "Pink Hearts Yellow Moons" will probably suit your call for smarts and wit. On the national level, I think there are still plenty of acts who marry fun and brains, but without much radio support. What about the Magnetic Fields, Ben Folds Five, or - the obvious choice - They Might Be Giants? You may not like their style of music, but the Pet Shop Boys write damn good lyrics, know exactly what they're doing, aren't afraid to look like lunatics with their really bizarre visuals, have an in-depth understanding of the pop music that has preceded them, and are incredibly fun. Grant Goggans Comments welcome http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 06:33:14 -0700 From: Ida M Miller Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Tubes I've seen The Tubes several times in the last two years or so. The stage show is definitely back, although not quite to the extent I saw in the late 70's with humongous stage props. Every song has a costume change; the band is tight; Fee is still absolutely outrageous. For the White Punks On Dope finale, yes indeed-y ... Fee still stumbles around the stage in his platforms, wig, boa, and silver stretch pants complete with 'enhancement'. I took 'Tubes virgins' to two of the shows ... they had tears of laughter rolling down their cheeks. What a riot, still worth the time & money to go see them. Ida "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" wrote: > > An old friend of mine dragged me along to see THE TUBES (in about '79 at the > Odeon in Birmingham?) who I had never even heard of. They were > FUN/intelligent and had apparently toned their act down somewhat. I hear > they're touring again - anyone seen them in the States - is Fee still > wearing his 12 inch (or should I say 30cm) heels? > I bet they're even funnier now. > > Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:27:01 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges On 15 Aug 2001, at 13:48, A.L. Jepson wrote: > On the other hand, if I was to enlighten you all then perhaps money > plays great part in one's academic education these days. I'll say no > more. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that it has very little to do with intelligence. For some, dumbing down is not an option. David David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:28:49 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? Actually - I have my Roxy collection on its own shelf in my stereo cabinet .. It starts with Manzanera (and 801/Quiet Sun), then Christmas with the Players, then goes through the Roxy discs, the Ferry discs, then the boots. The shelf underneath is a mix of stuff - Cocteau Twins, Liz Frazier, Craig Armstrong, then Canterbury bands like Hatfield, and below that is other stuff like 777 (Steve Hillage, etc), Loop Guru, Moby, Oakenfold. The bottom shelf is Crimson and Sylvian ... I have another rack for all the other discs like Beatles, Miles Davis, U2, bloody YES, etc ... - -= )-(eather =- SIMON GALLOWAY wrote: >I've been putting a few CDs and records away and wondered about the other >artists in my collection that are either side of Roxy and Ferry... > >I (try to) keep my collection alphabetically (it helps me find things five >years later), but in my 7" singles collection I've always had the Roxy >singles first, then Ferry singles, then it moves on to David Bowie. And it's >the same for the album (vinyl) collection. But, when it comes to CDs, I've >kept them all properly alphabetically, so either side of the Roxy albums are >Mick Ronson and Todd Rundgren, and for Ferry it's Fatboy Slim and the >Flamin' Groovies. CD singles: Roxy (all three of them) - Mick Ronson and The >Rutles, Ferry - Fatima Mansions and Filter. > >So there! What's yours..? > >SimonG > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:30:12 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges Oh well, as far as I'm concerened that's good. Alan David Squires wrote: > > On 15 Aug 2001, at 13:48, A.L. Jepson wrote: > > > On the other hand, if I was to enlighten you all then perhaps money > > plays great part in one's academic education these days. I'll say no > > more. > > It's becoming increasingly clear to me that it has very little to do with > intelligence. For some, dumbing down is not an option. > > David > > David > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:33:29 -0400 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? My system is to keep solo material right after the band releases, so Ferry comes right after Roxy (just as Knopfler follows Dire Straits and Fogerty follows CCR). But just before the Roxy material I have Diana Ross & the Supremes, Rolling Stones, Otis Redding, Marcus Roberts and Radiohead. And yes, Todd Rundgren is just after Roxy. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:30:04 +0100 From: "Terry Lane" Subject: Re: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? I must be a bit boring - I only have Ferry & Roxy vinyl/CD`s. Terry Lane Looking forward to Glasgow, btw who`s going ?? >From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: "avalon@smoe.org" >Subject: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:17:02 +0100 > >I've been putting a few CDs and records away and wondered about the other >artists in my collection that are either side of Roxy and Ferry... > >I (try to) keep my collection alphabetically (it helps me find things five >years later), but in my 7" singles collection I've always had the Roxy >singles first, then Ferry singles, then it moves on to David Bowie. And >it's >the same for the album (vinyl) collection. But, when it comes to CDs, I've >kept them all properly alphabetically, so either side of the Roxy albums >are >Mick Ronson and Todd Rundgren, and for Ferry it's Fatboy Slim and the >Flamin' Groovies. CD singles: Roxy (all three of them) - Mick Ronson and >The >Rutles, Ferry - Fatima Mansions and Filter. > >So there! What's yours..? > >SimonG > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:25:16 +0100 From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" Subject: [AVALON] Dressy Bessy!!!! >From: "Grant Goggans" > > If I lived in Denver, I'd have seen Dressy Bessy a dozen times > by now; their album "Pink Hearts Yellow Moons" will probably suit your call > for smarts and wit. That's a fabulous album, If You Should Try To Kiss Her is a classic!!! SimonG JP Bryan Ferry - Boys And Girls NP U2 - The Unforgettable Fire ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:43:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, A.L. Jepson wrote: > And what are you exactly implying Colleen? You've missed the joke > entirely. If I'm not as nearly intelligent as you've suggested then > what I'm doing at University then? I'm not sure either. I'm sorry I can't be of more assistance. > Alan (who is proud to be rude even though it was not his intention as > usual) And I'm sorry that you are so proud of your rudeness to me and to this list which deserves more of your respect. You may have noticed that you are the only person who is acting in this manner. I hope you will think about why that is and reconsider your behavior. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:05:19 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Lane To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? > Looking forward to Glasgow, btw who`s going ?? The beers are on you Blue Nose. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:04:19 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Way off topic Look, I know this is way off topic (but I'll do my best to mention Roxy somewhere here). But Becky (I just hope her e-mail address doesn't suggest too strongly a relationship, cos I really don't mean to offend, I'm still meaning to make that 70s dance night in north London) did manage to scratch the surface of my current, albeit short-lived, bugbear. Sophie Ellis Bextor (of the recommended - by Becky - band theaudience). Where does Sophie Ellis Bextor get off on stating on T4 a few weeks back, in answer to the straight-forward question "Did you write the new song yourself?", that indeed "Yes, I wrote all the songs on the new album with a couple of other people". I'm confused because she indeed does share co-composition credit with two other people on the new single "Take Me Home". The same two people who had the composition credit all to themselves when Cher first recorded it back in 1979, the year Sophie Ellis Bextor was born. How did she manage to co-write the song as a newborn baby and why has it taken her 22 years to get her name on that song (one imagines lengthy court cases outlasting the Spector/Harrison disputes) and record it? Or alternatively (and face it, much more likely) how does she believe she has altered the song sufficiently to deserve her name being mentioned in front of the two guys who originally had that credit space all to themselves? I know what you're thinking, who cares? But the song will be the new UK number one this Sunday and she will be coining it. It's bad enough the new generation can't write their own songs and have to cover (and ruin, mostly) the classics, without having to pretend they composed them as well. The Roxy music link? Well, Brian Eno did at least indicate that his mates were claiming two new words each on The Lion Sleeps Tonight. Just what has been Sophie's contribution? Richard n/p Cara Dillon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:07:07 -0400 From: "One of the Grays" Subject: Re: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? My CD collection is organised in chronological order in a high tower CD stack, Roxy first, followed by Ferry, Eno, Mackay, Manzanera, Thompson and other culprits who played along the way! Then come the rest of my obscure collection in alphabetical order. Unfortunately, my vinyl collection is under wraps as I have no space to showcase all the original 7", 12", demos and LP's. I do have a turntable and now and again bring them out to listen to. John - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather James" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? > Actually - I have my Roxy collection on its own shelf in my stereo > cabinet .. > It starts with Manzanera (and 801/Quiet Sun), then Christmas with the > Players, then goes through the Roxy discs, the Ferry discs, then the boots. > The shelf underneath is a mix of stuff - Cocteau Twins, Liz Frazier, > Craig Armstrong, then Canterbury bands like Hatfield, > and below that is other stuff like 777 (Steve Hillage, etc), Loop Guru, > Moby, Oakenfold. > The bottom shelf is Crimson and Sylvian ... > > I have another rack for all the other discs like Beatles, Miles > Davis, U2, bloody YES, etc ... > > > -= )-(eather =- > > SIMON GALLOWAY wrote: > > >I've been putting a few CDs and records away and wondered about the other > >artists in my collection that are either side of Roxy and Ferry... > > > >I (try to) keep my collection alphabetically (it helps me find things five > >years later), but in my 7" singles collection I've always had the Roxy > >singles first, then Ferry singles, then it moves on to David Bowie. And it's > >the same for the album (vinyl) collection. But, when it comes to CDs, I've > >kept them all properly alphabetically, so either side of the Roxy albums are > >Mick Ronson and Todd Rundgren, and for Ferry it's Fatboy Slim and the > >Flamin' Groovies. CD singles: Roxy (all three of them) - Mick Ronson and The > >Rutles, Ferry - Fatima Mansions and Filter. > > > >So there! What's yours..? > > > >SimonG > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >The subliminable footer says: > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > -- > -= )-(eather =- > >--------------------< > hjames@thewebgal.com > > Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ > My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------< > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:06:17 -0400 From: "One of the Grays" Subject: Re: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? My CD collection is organised in chronological order in a high tower CD stack, Roxy first, followed by Ferry, Eno, Mackay, Manzanera, Thompson and other culprits who played along the way! Then come the rest of my obscure collection in alphabetical order. Unfortunately, my vinyl collection is under wraps as I have no space to showcase all the original 7", 12", demos and LP's. I do ahve a turntable and now and again bring them out to listen to. John - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather James" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] What surrounds YOUR Roxy? > Actually - I have my Roxy collection on its own shelf in my stereo > cabinet .. > It starts with Manzanera (and 801/Quiet Sun), then Christmas with the > Players, then goes through the Roxy discs, the Ferry discs, then the boots. > The shelf underneath is a mix of stuff - Cocteau Twins, Liz Frazier, > Craig Armstrong, then Canterbury bands like Hatfield, > and below that is other stuff like 777 (Steve Hillage, etc), Loop Guru, > Moby, Oakenfold. > The bottom shelf is Crimson and Sylvian ... > > I have another rack for all the other discs like Beatles, Miles > Davis, U2, bloody YES, etc ... > > > -= )-(eather =- > > SIMON GALLOWAY wrote: > > >I've been putting a few CDs and records away and wondered about the other > >artists in my collection that are either side of Roxy and Ferry... > > > >I (try to) keep my collection alphabetically (it helps me find things five > >years later), but in my 7" singles collection I've always had the Roxy > >singles first, then Ferry singles, then it moves on to David Bowie. And it's > >the same for the album (vinyl) collection. But, when it comes to CDs, I've > >kept them all properly alphabetically, so either side of the Roxy albums are > >Mick Ronson and Todd Rundgren, and for Ferry it's Fatboy Slim and the > >Flamin' Groovies. CD singles: Roxy (all three of them) - Mick Ronson and The > >Rutles, Ferry - Fatima Mansions and Filter. > > > >So there! What's yours..? > > > >SimonG > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >The subliminable footer says: > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > -- > -= )-(eather =- > >--------------------< > hjames@thewebgal.com > > Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ > My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------< > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #377 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest