From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #376 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, August 15 2001 Volume 06 : Number 376 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] More Backstage Pictures/Phil Judd [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Michael Hill ["Eman 97" ] Re: [AVALON] Re:Covers ["David Squires " ] [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #375 ["Eman 97" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Cover's ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferris? ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] Phil's red firebird ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Cover's ["SIMON GALLOWAY" ] [AVALON] Brisbane Gig review: from The Australian (excuse my typing). [G] Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #375 ["Becky Payne" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #375 [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] ferrys favourites (was cover's) ["Philip Adams" ] Re: [AVALON] Phil Judd ["David Elliot" ] Re: [AVALON] Phil's red firebird ["thom.wallace" ] RE: [AVALON] Can I get a head count? ["Guy Lawley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Backstage Pictures/Phil Judd At 12.10 -0700 1-08-14, David Firmin wrote: >Also, Phil Judd (Split Enz) was checking out the Roxy photo album and he >said that Phil Manzanera used that same Red Firebird guitar in the mid-70s >when they recorded the Split Enz albums. That would be cool if Judd and >Manzo could meet up in Melbourne. What is Phil Judd doing these days? NP Crowded House, Sister Madly live W/ Richard Thompson Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:05:30 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Phil Judd At the moment he's doing TV work. He's also an accomplished artist (He painted the cover to the Manzanera produced Mental Notes album). He was also at the frenz.com forum but was chased away for being silly!! on 8/14/01 12:49 PM, Daniel Atterbom at daniel.atterbom@odata.se wrote: > At 12.10 -0700 1-08-14, David Firmin wrote: >> Also, Phil Judd (Split Enz) was checking out the Roxy photo album and he >> said that Phil Manzanera used that same Red Firebird guitar in the mid-70s >> when they recorded the Split Enz albums. That would be cool if Judd and >> Manzo could meet up in Melbourne. > > What is Phil Judd doing these days? > > NP Crowded House, Sister Madly live W/ Richard Thompson > > Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:11:11 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Michael Hill Why can't more kids today be like you? ;-) e >>>>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:17:03 +0100 From: Michael Hill Subject: RE: [AVALON] Can I get a head count? Well, I'm 18, and feel I should have been born 20 years earlier sometimes!Although I listen to a huge range of music, from rap to classical, pop to avant-garde, Bryan and Roxy are my ultimate heroes. I'm also a huge Kate Bush fan. Of today's music, my fave people are those who,in the spirit of Roxy and Kate, make a genuine push for new musical ground, like Tori Amos and Moloko. And Missy Elliot is so cool! Oh, by the way, I have introduced many of my friends to Roxy, and they all think it's cool-I have given them many a lecture on the sophistication and style of Bryan Ferry too! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:18:00 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:Covers On 13 Aug 2001, at 16:03, OBrienFerry@aol.com wrote: > He'll Have To Go was originally recorded by Jim Reeves in a 3/4 tempo. > Bryan's version is more like the Ry Cooder 4/4 version. > > Just a wee bit of muso trivia The Prefab Sprout version is also 4/4, BTW... David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:22:19 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #375 > > to their own, I suppose but I do find that musically I've got next to > > nothing in common with most people of my own age. >Me either. They're all into crap like the Grateful Dea. >Colleen This is such a truism for Roxy fans. I think that the average music fan doesn't have the intelligence to appreciate a line like "Even Zarathustra, another time loser..." The fact that a certain amount of intelligence, instinctual, or learned, is required to go along with the Roxy ethic, tends to band Roxy fans together perhaps more tightly than fans of more popular bands. With many bands, the fans are fans of the music. And very enthused for "their" band. But they rarely rave about say...the lyrics, the style, the humour etc. Sure some do, but it isn't as common as the average Roxy discussion, where the lyrics and style changes are often discussed, with joy and humour. Were Roxy the last truly FUN band, and intelligent too? e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:27:02 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Cover's On 14 Aug 2001, at 2:00, Chris Turner wrote: > Top marks for any anorak who can tell me the other > Holland/Dozier/Holland song Ferry has covered! > Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever? David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:27:02 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferris? On 13 Aug 2001, at 21:34, Grant Goggans wrote: > I was watching Total Recall tonight. The clip of Ladytron where the > announcer -- he's the guy from Hitchhiker's Guide who tells Arthur Dent > how little damage his bulldozer will suffer rolling over Arthur, I think > -- gets the name of the song and its singer wrong... what program is that, > and why did they let such bozos host it? Lets leave Joe Melia out of this, shall we? British television, it's too weird to explain... David (closing down) - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:40:34 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: RE: [AVALON] ferrys favourites (was cover's) On 14 Aug 2001, at 12:24, Jocelyn Fiske wrote: > He did a Top 10 ( I think it was a different session to this - anoraks > please step in) which I have somewhere or the other which included Respect > Yourself by The Staple Singers and the second part (piano) of Layla. My Top Twelve (I think) with Brian Matthew in about 1974. I heard most of this when it went out. Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow by the Shirelles, too. I've mentioned it before but there is a similarity in the chord progression of Layla part two and Just Another High - anyone else notice it in passing? David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:56:09 EDT From: Bebbingtonsteph@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] roxy boots before manifesto hi if anyone has any bootlegs from this era,please could you send me info about what you have? ta very much! steph ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:26:03 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brisbane/Birmingham age ranges On 14 Aug 2001, at 16:51, A.L. Jepson wrote: > I didn't see your children. Are they fans? It can be quite worrying > when fans start bringing their kids along to a gig. It gives you an > idea of the average age of what the audience is in general. Are you phobic about children? I am, but then I've got three! But what do you expect from concerts from a band formed in 1971? It's getting to be a long time ago for those of us around at the time... David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:26:03 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Backstage Pictures/Phil Judd On 14 Aug 2001, at 12:10, David Firmin wrote: > Also, Phil Judd (Split Enz) was checking out the Roxy photo album and he > said that Phil Manzanera used that same Red Firebird guitar in the mid-70s > when they recorded the Split Enz albums. And even earlier - have you seen inside the FYP cover recently? David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:37:39 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Phil's red firebird I actually meant to say that Phil Judd used Manzanera's red firebird on Second Thoughts in 1976. Judd said it was great to see Phil still uses it. David on 8/14/01 2:26 PM, David Squires at david@squires.nildram.co.uk wrote: > On 14 Aug 2001, at 12:10, David Firmin wrote: > >> Also, Phil Judd (Split Enz) was checking out the Roxy photo album and he >> said that Phil Manzanera used that same Red Firebird guitar in the mid-70s >> when they recorded the Split Enz albums. > > And even earlier - have you seen inside the FYP cover recently? > > David > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:00:21 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Phil's red firebird On 14 Aug 2001, at 14:37, David Firmin wrote: > I actually meant to say that Phil Judd used Manzanera's red firebird on > Second Thoughts in 1976. Judd said it was great to see Phil still uses it. Right! I asked Phil if he'd lend me one of his (I was angling for the red one, not the reverse body) after the 801 concert in Nottingham in 1978. He said no. God, how these people treat their fans - I mean, how do they sleep?! David (I do have a rather disgusting give-away plywood Vox guitar, but it's really not the same...) - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:05:33 -0800 From: Karen Roth Subject: [AVALON] Song for Los Angeles I know I'm a bit late on this... Seeing Roxy Music at the Greek Theatre in L.A. both nights was a highlight of my life. I have been very tempted to get on a plane and get to Australia!! The first Avalonian to contact me after my young friend Brandi and I arrived in Hollywood on Saturday Aug 4th was the very mild mannered and nice guy, Paul Bodine from Wisconsin. We spent Sunday night with him and had cocktails and laughs. Btw: met a guy who said his name was Eman. I said as in Eric? he said yes and I asked if he was from Seattle and he said no. Wouldn't that have been something if it was our Eman? He was with some girl named Irene. Just kidding. Monday Aug 6: William Sommers (a very interesting man, I might add) called and informed me that he was arriving soon and staying at the same hotel. Cool! The really nice and wonderful Ida Miller phoned in soon after to say she would pick us all up and take us to the concert. I have to say that I felt as if I was walking on clouds waiting for Ida to arrive. I barged into William's hotel room and yakked his ear off for a while and then Ida was there. I thought she was an angel sent from heaven. We picked up Paul and off we went. Rufus Wainwright was very good and his acoustics went over well at the Greek Theatre as it was outdoors and perfect for any kind of music. I had familiarized myself with his work before his concert and I am now a fan and would love to see him again. Nothing quite prepared me for the feelings that came over me when the curtains parted to the band I know as Roxy Music. My first time ever seeing any of them. I cried during Mother of Pearl and I was thrilled to have Yannick there for Avalon. I enjoyed Bryan's chuckle when he screwed up the whistling during Jealous Guy. I even used my cell phone to leave myself a message of "My Only Love" at work and I listen to it often. My own little bootleg. The show was so amazing and Bryan owned us all. I had to stay for the second show and did. Ida, Brandi and me (William and Paul had to go home) head off for the second show and I couldn't believe it was possible but it was even better than the first. I felt that if the plane went down going home that I would die a happy woman. What a great time. Thanks to Ida, William and Paul. What nice people you are and we'll do it again at the next tour! Thanks to Avalon. If I hadn't been on this list, I never would have known anything about this reunion and I would missed out on this unbelievable experience. Karen PS: To Ida-did you end up with an extra roll of used film? I lost one (the one of the first night) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:07:34 +0100 From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Cover's Nope, that was Hunter/Wonder. - ---------- >From: "David Squires " >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Cover's >Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2001, 9:27 pm > > On 14 Aug 2001, at 2:00, Chris Turner wrote: > >> Top marks for any anorak who can tell me the other >> Holland/Dozier/Holland song Ferry has covered! >> > > Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever? > > David > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:52:53 +0930 From: Glen Lehman Subject: [AVALON] Brisbane Gig review: from The Australian (excuse my typing). A FEW REMINDERS OF ROXY HEIGHTS. Roxy Music's reunion tour, coming almost 20 years after the group broke up, carries few of the risks which affect other pop music revival shows. Frontman Bryan Ferry's style was always out of its time, seeming to date from the era of the 1940s bandleaders. As the Australian leg of their 2001 world tour kicked off in Brisbane, Ferry, alongside psychedelic guitar master Phil Manzanera, theavuncular reed player Andy McKay and original drummer Paul Thompson, demonstrated that time has been very kind to Roxy Music. Its members now well into their 50s, the bands original image as vaguely seedy lounge lizards dabbing with studied insouciance in great pop music has grown more plausible. The style is still as important as the substance, and the elegant suits and Ferry's white dinner jacket remain timeless. So too does Ferry's voice. An acquired taste on disc, the huffing baritones affectations and limited range are less noticeable in concert, especially within a sound mix, that left much to be desired. This is as ten-piece Roxy Music, without Brian Eno -- who no longer tours -- but bolstered by rootsy guitar player Chris Spedding, bassist Zev Katz, multi-instrumentalist Lucy Wilkins, vocalist Sarah Brown, keyboardist Colin Good, percussionist Julia Thornton and four female dancers. Although unequivocally a pop band, the new Roxy Music play with the heaviness of a hard rock act. The result is a strangely characterless performance of many of the greatest hits, devoid of the catchy , quirky quality that kept the band in the charts for ten years. Oh Yeah and Avalon were leaden, the latter segueing all too quicky into an unpolished version of Dance Away. But a searing version of John Lennon's Jealous Guy defied the trend. Kicking off the concert with Remake/Remodel from the first Roxy Music album , followed by a poorly mixed version of Street Life , was perhaps a courageous choice. But to conclude with the less-than-stirring For Your Pleasure was downright anti-climatic. The omission of More Than This was another poor decision. But although the classics didn't always fare too well, some of the less radio-friendly repertoire, such as the majestic Song to Europe, , the duelling guitars on Both Ends Burning and Lucy Wilkin's outrageous violin solo on Out of the Blue provided ennough reminders that Roxy Music, were , and at times remain , a great band with songs that will endure. By Martin Buzacott (The Australian, Monday 13th August, 2001) This message and any attachment is confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:25:55 +0000 From: "Becky Payne" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #375 Talking about bands that were fun aswell as intelligent - "Sparks" have that similar style (Sorry to keep going on about them but I *do* love them !) and another band springs to mind - "theaudience". Anyone else know of them ? Probably the best band of the 90's in my opinion. Intelligent lyrics, stylish, glamorous....They only released one album but it's excellent ! They released four singles and they barely made it into the Top 40 so they were dropped by their record company. Such a shame. The singer (Sophie Ellis-Bextor) has now started up a solo career of her own and it seems quite good but definitely not in the same league as her old band :( Becky x > >Were Roxy the last truly FUN band, and intelligent too? > >e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:28:39 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Phil misplaced guitars Also see this link: http://www.hardrock.com/memorabilia/Gallery/IGE47853.asp According to Bill MacCormick, Phil loaned this to someone and it was never returned. Now it's on display at the Hard Rock Cafe. on 8/14/01 3:00 PM, David Squires at david@squires.nildram.co.uk wrote: > Right! I asked Phil if he'd lend me one of his (I was angling for the red > one, not the reverse body) after the 801 concert in Nottingham in 1978. > He said no. God, how these people treat their fans - I mean, how do they > sleep?! > > David (I do have a rather disgusting give-away plywood Vox guitar, but it's > really not the same...) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 18:32:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #375 On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Eman 97 wrote: > >Me either. They're all into crap like the Grateful Dea. > > >Colleen > > > This is such a truism for Roxy fans. I think that the average music > fan doesn't have the intelligence to appreciate a line like "Even > Zarathustra, another time loser..." > > The fact that a certain amount of intelligence, instinctual, or > learned, is required to go along with the Roxy ethic, tends to band > Roxy fans together perhaps more tightly than fans of more popular > bands. > > With many bands, the fans are fans of the music. And very enthused > for "their" band. But they rarely rave about say...the lyrics, the > style, the humour etc. Sure some do, but it isn't as common as the > average Roxy discussion, where the lyrics and style changes are often > discussed, with joy and humour. First, I was being ironic. I'm sorry it wasn't more obvious. Second, I am quite secure in the size of my penis, so I don't need to put down fans of other artists. Nor is the Avalon list the only mailing list where one can find good discussion. Frankly, I think there is more in depth discussion of music on other lists I am on (it always seems to fizzle out here), but that is a function of the culture of specific lists and not the music, per se. > Were Roxy the last truly FUN band, and intelligent too? No. Unless you have stopped listening to music after they disbanded, that is. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:33:06 +0100 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] ferrys favourites (was cover's) > > Duncan Watkins wrote: > >> > many years ago bryan was on radio ?1 ?2 my top ten > > tunes or something the only two i remember were 'roadrunner' by jr walker > > > and '96 tears' by ? and > > the mysterions from which he half jokingly? said > > he got his vocal style! > > He also picked "My Only Love" Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:19:23 +0100 From: "David Elliot" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Phil Judd - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Firmin" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Phil Judd > At the moment he's doing TV work. He's also an accomplished artist (He > painted the cover to the Manzanera produced Mental Notes album). He was also > at the frenz.com forum but was chased away for being silly!! > > > on 8/14/01 12:49 PM, Daniel Atterbom at daniel.atterbom@odata.se wrote: > > > At 12.10 -0700 1-08-14, David Firmin wrote: > >> Also, Phil Judd (Split Enz) was checking out the Roxy photo album and he > >> said that Phil Manzanera used that same Red Firebird guitar in the mid-70s > >> when they recorded the Split Enz albums. That would be cool if Judd and > >> Manzo could meet up in Melbourne. > > > > What is Phil Judd doing these days? > > > > NP Crowded House, Sister Madly live W/ Richard Thompson > > > > Daniel > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:21:03 +0100 From: "David Elliot" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Phil Judd can anybody tell me why dance with life was never out in the uk i would say it is one of his best tracks ever ..how do u all feel about the song ??? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Firmin" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Phil Judd > At the moment he's doing TV work. He's also an accomplished artist (He > painted the cover to the Manzanera produced Mental Notes album). He was also > at the frenz.com forum but was chased away for being silly!! > > > on 8/14/01 12:49 PM, Daniel Atterbom at daniel.atterbom@odata.se wrote: > > > At 12.10 -0700 1-08-14, David Firmin wrote: > >> Also, Phil Judd (Split Enz) was checking out the Roxy photo album and he > >> said that Phil Manzanera used that same Red Firebird guitar in the mid-70s > >> when they recorded the Split Enz albums. That would be cool if Judd and > >> Manzo could meet up in Melbourne. > > > > What is Phil Judd doing these days? > > > > NP Crowded House, Sister Madly live W/ Richard Thompson > > > > Daniel > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:20:45 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Phil's red firebird - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Squires To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Phil's red firebird > Right! I asked Phil if he'd lend me one of his (I was angling for the red > one, not the reverse body) Phil's famous red firebird is a reverse body model, the one that can be seen on the cover of Viva is a non-reverse body. Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:52:05 +1000 From: "Stephen Rice" Subject: [AVALON] Brisbane gig and Headcount thread. Hi I'm 23 and got into Roxy Music after hearing "Let's Stick Together" on the radio for years. When I was 19 I saw the album for $7.00 I couldn't resist buying it, just for the one song. After discovering that my favourite songs on the album were actually really Roxy Music tracks, I made it a mission of mine to discover all I could about the band. Many albums, singles and videos later I'm a proud devotee and will talk about Roxy for as long as anyone will listen! Anyway, I too attended the concert in Brisbane on Saturday night. I'll agree with others that the audience was predominantly over 30. However, age aside, the audience was appalling. After the applause as they walked on the stage, you could have heard a pin drop. The arena was silent. Throughout the gig Bryan tried to get the audience to clap along but to no avail. But his persistence paid off as during Both Ends Burning, members of the audience rushed to the front of the stage, shrugging security off as they started dancing. It was a trend that followed the entire night, eventually with the entire area in front of the stage full of people dancing. After the first rush, the audience then started to get into it and by the end it really looked as if the band were enjoying the gig too. My only explanation for the lack of early enthusiasm is that the Brisbane audience was an "Manifesto/F&B/ Avalon" audience, who did not know the early songs. It was these songs that were received best. I'm interested to find out if how other audiences react around Australia, and the rest of the world. Is the silence usual behaviour at a Roxy gig? Personal highlights: In Every Dream Home..., Editions of you, Remake/Remodel and of course Do the Strand. Sorry its not the most comprehensive review, but I don't want to give away too much for the rest of Australia. I'm also wondering, will Bryan be on The Panel tonight? Has anyone heard? Might be worth watching.Stephen Rice. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:19:56 EDT From: Etherealana@cs.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Penthouse Perfection Me too Reecey!!! Please let me know if I can still get a copy. Thanks!! ANA ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:04:08 +0930 From: "Glen Lehman" Subject: [AVALON] Sydney Review: Great Show / Great Crowd Sydney Morning Herald Review. "Wow You Couldn't ask for more than this" Bugger. I came prepared to be bored. I came prepared to sneer at comfortable late-middle-aged men playing parlour music to comfortable middle-aged men and women on their one night out for the month. It seemed a fair enough assumption. After all, the people paying $25 for their glossy programs with lots of pictures but little of substance (after buying $80-plus tickets) were coming for Avalon, for More Than This, for songs that have kept 2WS-type stations in advertising dollars for two decades now. Ho-bleeding-hum. But Roxy Music let me down; they were anything but boring. Even better, they were taking chances again. And taking chances is something that went out the window by the end of the '70s when everything became unbearably slick like Bryan Ferry's hair, saxophonist Andy Mackay was preparing the way for Kenny G and guitarist Phil Manzanera was hobbled by blandom. Yet the band began the night with the ragged propulsion of ReMake - ReModel from the first Roxy Music album. It was arch and raw at the same time, Paul Thompson's drums making a rumbling demand on the senses and Manzanera and second guitarist Chris Spedding beginning a sparring that would enliven almost every song. Soon Out Of The Blue was romping and later the slow dramatic build of In Every Dream Home A Heartache exploded in its climax of anger and sleaze. This wasn't exactly art rock's legions unleashed - familiarity has lessened the initial shock of the early Roxy Music and the sound at times was too cluttered with two synths and a piano in there, too - but we were seeing a genuinely radical band still taking the line between noise and pop and blurring it. Some of Manzanera's lines were less melodic than an insertion of a cold rod followed by a hot poker and you willed him on to letting loose while Mackay honked and squawked invitingly. Just as importantly, Ferry's highly mannered vocals preened and primped, the aural equivalent of a strutting dandy. Outside his croon he isn't a great singer but he is a flamboyant deliverer of a line. For the annoyed man who, after half an hour of challenging material, yelled out "play something good" there were the middle-of-the-road moments of smooth (My Only Love, Avalon) and even a little jaunty (Oh Yeah). But each time we veered to the middle this vehicle was swung back to the fringes such as the camp neo-Piaf A Song for Europe, a high-heeled-boots take on Virginia Plain and a rip snorting version of Mother of Pearl. Just as the opening song said something about their intent, so did the closing number. After swaggering through The Strand they could have walked off on an easy high. Instead they pulled back for the decidedly odd - a stop-start rhythm, slightly "off" melody - and fascinating For Your Pleasure, a song for the brain, not the wallet. A Roxy Music concert in 2001 wasn't meant to be this interesting. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:19:31 +0930 From: "Glen Lehman" Subject: [AVALON] Brisbane: JOB's Question To answer JOB's VivaSite Question: Brisbane seemed to forget to advertise the show. For an essentially retrospective show I would think that four or five weeks advertising is inadequate. The Brisbane entertainment centre was quite empty really. This was despite the fact it was set up its intimate mode: which means, apparently, that the centre is cut down to size. In Brisbane: tickets were going for half price in the morning before the show. All one had to do was to have their Brisbane Courier Mail newspaper clip-out. Also, tickets were discounted when dining at certain restaurants etc. That was truly bizarre ! Ferry played around with songs and worked ever so hard to get the Brisbanite crowd going. Being interviewed last night he seemed to prefer crowds who "bogey" to use Mr F's words. He singled out Detroit and Chicago for special mention. He seemed very happy with the tour. Mr F could not stop laughing when the station broke for commercials. They tailored into the advertisements with a four-year old Elvis impersonator !!! The Sydney show was absolutely brilliant: with Mr Spedding wearing a big arkubra hat. Is that guy coooooool ! Mother was back in, which made it another great show.....Where was the very kind Mr Swift when I was lost and drunk again ? Glen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:54:53 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Can I get a head count? What did the Gratfeul Dead fan say when he/she ran out of drugs? "Christ, this band's shit!" (Not my personal opinion but a good gag, I've always thought) Guy aged 43 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Colleen Matan Sent: 14 August 2001 15:43 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Can I get a head count? On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Becky Payne wrote: > to their own, I suppose but I do find that musically I've got next to > nothing in common with most people of my own age. Me either. They're all into crap like the Grateful Dea. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:56:52 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #375 > Second, I am quite secure in the size of my penis, so I don't need to put > down fans of other artists. Nor is the Avalon list the only mailing list > where one can find good discussion. Frankly, I think there is more in > depth discussion of music on other lists I am on (it always seems to > fizzle out here), but that is a function of the culture of specific lists > and not the music, per se. > Colleen But there is no list with such an indepth discussions about Jerry Hall, White socks, perfumed sighs and Tom Wallace. Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #376 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest