From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #370 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, August 12 2001 Volume 06 : Number 370 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Minneapolis CDs - RM 7-31-01 [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Minneapolis CDs - RM 7-31-01 ["thom.wallace" ] Re: [AVALON] Rum Runner was: Rik Kenton [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Yanick Etienne [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] p.s. [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] FDR was: Rum Runner was: Rik Kenton [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Rum Runner was: Rik Kenton ["SIMON GALLOWAY" ] Re: [AVALON] Paint drying [KRNCHSE@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Club scene(Sheffield) [Carolatay@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Club scene(Sheffield) ["SIMON GALLOWAY" ] Re: [AVALON] Now the party's over... ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] Paint drying [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] An idea for a cd-tree? What do you think? ["terrypaulrigz8c"] Re: [AVALON] Club scene(Sheffield) [Carolatay@aol.com] [AVALON] NEW ROXY SINGLE RELEASED! ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] Tickets Rotterdam ["David Elliot" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Minneapolis CDs - RM 7-31-01 At 02.14 -0500 1-08-12, PeterT23 wrote: >I was temped to included a hidden track with >early INXS covering Miss Shapiro / You Really Got Me, but I managed to >resist... :+)} Is this for real or is it a joke? I'd love to hear it! The cover is almost completed by the way and to the pleasure for some and pain for others it does not feature a pug or any other dog. NP Slave to Love, Wolverhampton 1994 Daniel married to a diehard INXS fan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:45:08 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Yanick Etienne - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Kendrick To: Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Yanick Etienne > Dear old Tom, she has something to offer: a talent. Perhaps not the talent > of > a great great artist ( as if you knew or cared!) but something. A talent. > Just > like Roxy Music itself. An interesting talent. No less, but no more. > > God help us when the talentless and ignorant decide what career is to live > or die! > Democracy - makes ya sick, don't it? Well Tim for someone who wants to bleat on about democracy your pretty good at trying to deny my democratic right to voice an opinion. You see I've paid my money for tickets to the two additional UK shows and that gives me the right to state a point of view. Other than spouting the odd insult you totally failed to answer my point, that other than hitting a high note in Avalon ( a song most folk wanted dropped for something older) what does she have to offer within the rest of the set. If this signifies a "talent just like Roxy Music itself" then there are a heck of a lot of Roxy Musics playing in our street during the schol holidays. As for your "God help us when the talentless and ignorant decide what career is to live or die!" jibe, if her contribution to one Roxy song and probably one of their poorer efforts is the hight of her career then she ain't had much of a career. I was watching Ferry's New Town video the other day and she and the other backing singers didn't exactly add much to that set either. I have seen Roxy use backing singers on three tours and Ferry use backing singers on three tours and never have these people enhanced the music being played, though their use on the In Your Mind tour was slightly more successful. Over the years their contributions can be seen as totally crap in the case of the Sirens to bland on the latter tours. As some one who has paid his money over the years I think I've got the right to say what I think, if you don't agree with my views fine, but cut the crap and at least try to validate what you are saying. Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:50:58 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Minneapolis CDs - RM 7-31-01 - ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Atterbom To: Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Minneapolis CDs - RM 7-31-01 > The cover is almost completed by the way and to the pleasure for some and > pain for others it does not feature a pug or any other dog. Careful now Daniel, don't you know that the dog may possess "A talent.just like Roxy Music itself". It may be able to howl along at the end of Avalon and bark in time to Do The Strand. Seriously though I hope the cover works out fine. Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:21:52 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Minneapolis CDs - RM 7-31-01 At 10.50 +0100 1-08-12, thom.wallace wrote: >Careful now Daniel, don't you know that the dog may possess "A talent.just >like Roxy Music itself". It may be able to howl along at the end of Avalon >and bark in time to Do The Strand. Seriously though I hope the cover works >out fine. LOL. Since the dogs I would use are members of this household, I can attest to the fact that they are even less musicially inclined then I am, being told not to spoil music for other by attempting to sing... I will try Roxy on my fourlegged friends, having taken care of their litter earlier today. They dislike to go out in the rain, spoiled brats. :-) NP Ladytron, Glasgow 1988 Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:43:54 +0100 From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" Subject: Re: [AVALON] An idea for a cd-tree? What do you think? The only difference with Ferry's version is a slightly increased tempo, and the fact that he's not Billie Holiday!!! ;-) BTW Aretha Franklin did a great version of Lover Come Back To Me in her pre-Atlantic days. SimonG - ---------- >From: Colleen Matan >To: >Subject: Re: [AVALON] An idea for a cd-tree? What do you think? >Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2001, 12:33 am > > On Sat, 11 Aug 2001, Maggie Curran wrote: > >> An excellent idea! In thinking about your project, I should >> think you'd want to include: > >> "Love Me Or Leave Me" Nina Simone > > But isn't the goal to put the version that the cover seems to have been > inspired by? The version of "Love Me Or Leave Me" on _ATGB_ is virtually > a note-for-note remake of Billie Holliday's version. > > Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:44:16 +0100 From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" Subject: Re: [AVALON] U2 Live - off topic >From: Aleks Kocan > > np "Prarie Rose" - U2 version Really? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:29:44 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Paint drying <> DM said: Have you ever seen Bruce Springsteen W/the E st Band?>> DM, as ever, was drunk today when he tried to correct Aleks on his assertion that U2 are the greatest rock'n'roll band...I don't know, I must wait till Aug 22 when they wrap up in London to find out if this is still true, but I believe it may well be. Every so often, one wonders about people who have latched onto BF and Roxy Music. It's but a couple of weeks ago that it was suggested that Dire Straits were 'essential' to a CD collection and now (not for the first time) Broooce is being mooted as lead singer with the finest rock'n'roll band in the world. Does no one find Roxy exciting? Have they not brought fresh ideas to rock music? Are they not 'interesting'? Is it some broad-minded ambition that Roxy fans should have to enjoy mind-numbing boredom as well? Or maybe a penance for having sourced the excitement and interest of Roxy in the first place? To those who subscribe to the ordination of stimulation/boredom balancing, can I suggest 30 minutes a week listening to Pat Boone and Mary Hopkin? They rock!!! Richard n/p The sound of a 4/4 metronome (it's riveting) with an occasional Hank Marvin guitar solo. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 13:32:54 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] An idea for a cd-tree? What do you think? > But isn't the goal to put the version that the cover seems to have been > inspired by? The version of "Love Me Or Leave Me" on _ATGB_ is virtually > a note-for-note remake of Billie Holliday's version. > > Colleen Yes that's the goal and thanks to Reecey, Simon G, Daniel and Judy Kaufman and myself :-)(and the cd-library) I almost have all the original songs. The ATGB album is a bit difficult to do because it sometimes is clear that Ferry was inspired by the BH version it's also interesting to hear the original Broadway recording. What to do: include the German version of Falling in love again (Ich bin von kopf bis fus auf liebe angestellt) or Marlene Dietrich's English version? Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:02:22 +0000 From: "C. H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] U2 Live - off topic Did U2 cover that one? Christian - ---------- >Von: "SIMON GALLOWAY" >An: "avalon@smoe.org" >Betreff: Re: [AVALON] U2 Live - off topic >Datum: Son, 12. Aug 2001 10:44 Uhr > >>From: Aleks Kocan >> >> np "Prarie Rose" - U2 version > >Really? > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:04:03 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Now the party's over... Is that a good or a bad thing David? To be honest, I don't know what you mean by the term, 'situationist'. Could you explain? Cheers Alan David Squires wrote: > > On 10 Aug 2001, at 10:39, A.L. Jepson wrote: > > > If anyone likes world music then it's best to go to the WOMAD festival > > which is usually held in Reading or somewhere else in the south. > > Alan - you're a situationist, right? > > David > > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:13:05 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Rum Runner was: Rik Kenton There was also the wedding of Charles and Di in 1981 but I won't go into that. Perhaps what I should have said was that the music of the early 80s was a good form of escapism from all the unemployment and inner city riots at the time. Alan David Squires wrote: > > On 10 Aug 2001, at 14:30, A.L. Jepson wrote: > > > Mind you in 1981 there were a lot of inner city riots in the UK, so the > > clubs must've been a good form of escapism. > > It's good to have a historian on the list to point this stuff out. > > AJP Squires > > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:17:24 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Thrill Box / Passing Years Rant / Horoscope Here ! Here!! Eman about your observations on our generation versus the nihilistic greedy nonsense now. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:32:28 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] U2 Live - off topic When did U2 cover Prarie Rose?...I can just see Bono prancing around the stage in his leathers and glasses and crouching down to start " Texassssssssssssssss" I am a fan of U2' music, I first saw them at university in front of 300 people ( it was in one of the dining halls) in 1981, but he always will be a poser, not someone whose views or style will be remembered for anything significant. A good rock and roll band but an awful self-importance about them. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:38:09 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Unknown musician wins minority programming award Alan Barnes, who was a member of Bryan Ferry's band during the As Time Goes By tour last year, won the prestigious 'Best Instrumentalist' prize at the BBC's recent Jazz Awards. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/jazz/jazzawards.shtml Jazz on the radio eh, it'll never catch on... Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:43:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: [AVALON] U2 - Prarie Rose - correction My mistake - I was thinking of other things at the time I typed the original e-mail. Was listening to Country Life and typed the wrong thing, sent the e-mail before I had time to correct it.....Doh!! Apologies Aleks - --- "C. H. Soetemann" wrote: > Did U2 cover that one? > >>From: Aleks Kocan > >> > >> np "Prarie Rose" - U2 version Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:45:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Rum Runner was: Rik Kenton On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, A.L. Jepson wrote: > There was also the wedding of Charles and Di in 1981 but I won't go > into that. > > Perhaps what I should have said was that the music of the early 80s > was a good form of escapism from all the unemployment and inner city > riots at the time. I'm fascinated. Tell me, how did people survive during the Depression without Culture Club and Duran Duran? Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:51:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Yanick Etienne On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, thom.wallace wrote: > Well Tim for someone who wants to bleat on about democracy your pretty > good at trying to deny my democratic right to voice an opinion. You > see I've paid my money for tickets to the two additional UK shows and > that gives me the right to state a point of view. Other than spouting Oh please. Tim (who I know doesn't need me to defend him) wasn't denying you anything of the sort. Tom, why are you so unhappy all of the time on this list? You have it all--tickets to loads of shows, backstage accesss, the chance to pal around with the fan club president, loads of rare recordings no one else has, and the inside track with respect to information and hearing unreleased material. Yet there are people on this list quite happy with far, far less. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:52:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] p.s. I know that Tom has no doubt made good on his public pledge to delete all of my posts unread, so please consider my last post purely hypothetical. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:05:28 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] FDR was: Rum Runner was: Rik Kenton At 09.45 -0400 1-08-12, Colleen Matan wrote: >I'm fascinated. Tell me, how did people survive during the Depression >without Culture Club and Duran Duran? They listend to jazz music on the radio, excellent documentary by Ken Burns, and FDR assuring them that only thing we have to fear is fear itself. "There are two great actors in the US", Roosevelt said to Orson Welles, "and you are the other one". NP Dream Home, Glasgow 1988 Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:07:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paint drying > DM said: Have you ever seen Bruce Springsteen W/the > E st Band?>> > - --- Chandla911@aol.com wrote: > Does no one find Roxy exciting? Have they not > brought fresh ideas to rock > music? Are they not 'interesting'? Roxy are exciting. I have been following Roxy Music for the best part of 20+ years. They are my favourite band. When I posted my original e-mail, I should have expected that Brooooce would somehow enter the discussion/equation Given the choice between seeing U2/Broooooce/Roxy I would opt for Roxy every time. Don't know how i'd describe Roxy, but I don't think it would be as a "Rock and Roll" band in the conventional sense. They are more than "Rock and Roll" - they are style and all the rest of it. As far as the live "rock and roll" band stuff goes, I still maintain that U2 are the best live "rock and roll" band in the world. Also - for all you Springsteen people out there, I have seen Broooce live, but not with the E-Street band. I would guess that Springsteens shows say 10-15 years ago were better than they are now? I've been to a lot of gigs in my life and I still maintain that the U2 gig I saw last night was one of the best...but I'll await more slating on that score. Aleks P.S I also posess Dire Straights records in my collection... Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:10:57 +0100 From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Rum Runner was: Rik Kenton I think they played poker for stale bread crusts... - ---------- >From: Colleen Matan >To: >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Rum Runner was: Rik Kenton >Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2001, 2:45 pm > > On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, A.L. Jepson wrote: > >> There was also the wedding of Charles and Di in 1981 but I won't go >> into that. >> >> Perhaps what I should have said was that the music of the early 80s >> was a good form of escapism from all the unemployment and inner city >> riots at the time. > > I'm fascinated. Tell me, how did people survive during the Depression > without Culture Club and Duran Duran? > > Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:12:00 +0100 From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Unknown musician wins minority programming award - ---------- >From: "Chris Turner" > > Jazz on the radio eh, it'll never catch on... > > Chris It's a crazy idea. ;-) SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 07:42:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Club scene(Sheffield) - --- Prince Of Happiness wrote: > I would have really, really liked to check out the > Sheffield scene back in > those days. Quite a few bands that I really like > came from them, The Human > League, Clock DVA, Cabaret Voltaire, and the Comsat > Angels...also sounds > like a good time to be a Roxy fan too. Less time > spent having to explain and > defend your fandom? Bands like the Human League (Phil Oakey still lives in Sheffield and is a big Roxy fan) emerged in the late 70's. I was going to clubs in Sheffield in the early 80's. I do genuinely think that the Manchester club scene was superior to the Sheffield club scene, but having said that it depends on the type of music that people like. Manchester is more cosmopolitan than Sheffield, but I still think that the best (and nicer) night's out were in Sheffield. I've never been to Gatecrasher but I've been told that it's an "experience" Aleks Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:43:19 EDT From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paint drying In a message dated 8/12/1 11:31:16 AM, you wrote: <> DM, as ever, was drunk today when he tried to correct Aleks on his assertion that U2 are the greatest rock'n'roll band...I don't know, I must wait till Aug 22 when they wrap up in London to find out if this is still true, but I believe it may well be.>> I merely poised a question,offered a counterpoint possibly?No ,i did not correct him.If he chooses to believe that U2 are the greatest rock'n'roll band in the world,then that's his opinion.I personally have only seen U2 on three tours,and this most recent IMO,has been the best. Ilove Roxy,Eagles,Faces,Beach Boys,Springsteen,etc etc.To nail a band down as the greatest is a tough one?Mary Hopkin on the other hand is another story........Those were the days my friend,an Anthem sung by millions,from the North Bank to Stretford End.LOL. Regards DM well i'm drunk today... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:13:12 EDT From: Carolatay@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Club scene(Sheffield) Did anyone used to go to Roxy night at the Crazy Daisy in the good old 70's? In a message dated 12/08/01 15:43:52 GMT Daylight Time, aleks50@yahoo.com writes: << wrote: > I would have really, really liked to check out the > Sheffield scene back in > those days. Quite a few bands that I really like > came from them, The Human > League, Clock DVA, Cabaret Voltaire, and the Comsat > Angels...also sounds > like a good time to be a Roxy fan too. Less time > spent having to explain and > defend your fandom? Bands like the Human League (Phil Oakey still lives in Sheffield and is a big Roxy fan) emerged in the late 70's. I was going to clubs in Sheffield in the early 80's. I do genuinely think that the Manchester club scene was superior to the Sheffield club scene, but having said that it depends on the type of music that people like. Manchester is more cosmopolitan than Sheffield, but I still think that the best (and nicer) night's out were in Sheffield. I've never been to Gatecrasher but I've been told that it's an "experience" ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:48:14 +0100 From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Club scene(Sheffield) My brothers did, who were both big Roxy (and Bowie) fans. Attention to detail with clothing was beyond mere obsession, I can tell you that much! SimonG - ---------- >From: Carolatay@aol.com >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Club scene(Sheffield) >Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2001, 4:13 pm > > Did anyone used to go to Roxy night at the Crazy Daisy in the good old 70's? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:37:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Club scene(Sheffield) - --- SIMON GALLOWAY wrote: > My brothers did, who were both big Roxy (and Bowie) > fans. > >From: Carolatay@aol.com > > Did anyone used to go to Roxy night at the Crazy > Daisy in the good old 70's? Roxy nights at Crazy Daisy we're a couple of years before my time. I think that the place where the Crazy Daisy used to be is now a newsagents, shoe shop or something like that. Limit club is also no longer standing. I think I read somewhere that Ferry rates Sheffield City Hall as one of his favourite venues, don't know if this is true or not, but it is a nice place. Aleks Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:49:18 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Now the party's over... On 12 Aug 2001, at 14:04, A.L. Jepson wrote: > Is that a good or a bad thing David? To be honest, I don't know what > you mean by the term, 'situationist'. Could you explain? You decide. Pop the word situationism into a search engine and see what comes up. David (we mean it, maaan!!) - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:49:18 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Rum Runner was: Rik Kenton On 12 Aug 2001, at 14:13, A.L. Jepson wrote: > There was also the wedding of Charles and Di in 1981 but I won't go > into that. Don't remember that as I was in long term training for the miner's strike some three years later... > Perhaps what I should have said was that the music of the early 80s was a > good form of escapism from all the unemployment and inner city riots at > the time. Yeah, songs such as Ghost Town certainly shielded me from the realities of inner city life as I lived it. And if a brick came through the window a little bit of Wham! would certainly pop the smile back on your face. Here's a thought: at any given point in time, there are good things and bad things in differing proportions depending on who and where and what you are. I'm very wary of cod sociologists making dubious points about things such as popular culture that they don't really understand. My personal view is that, whilst themes can be discerned and movements created, the real power of pop songs is when one goes off in someone's head and the resulting collateral damage in their hearts and bones. It's all incredibly subjective, an individual response to a mass market item, or from one human to another. David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 10:50:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paint drying - --- KRNCHSE@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/12/1 11:31:16 AM, you wrote: > > < W/the E st Band?>> > I merely poised a question,offered a counterpoint > possibly?No ,i did not > correct him.If he chooses to believe that U2 are the > greatest rock'n'roll > band in the world,then that's his opinion.I > personally have only seen U2 on > three tours,and this most recent IMO I have replied in a previous post. I did say that I believed ("in my opinion") that U2 were the best LIVE rock 'n' roll band in the world. I agree with the fact that the most recent tour was the best. I also don't have a problem if people like Broooce or whatever, however, I wouldn't have thought that Springsteen could deliver the same type of energy packed show as he used to - maybe I'm wrong. U2 delivered, and Bono is one of the few front-men that can truly "engage" a crowd. Aleks Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 21:01:16 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paint drying At 10.50 -0700 1-08-12, Aleks Kocan wrote: >U2 delivered, and Bono is one of the few front-men >that can truly "engage" a crowd. "This is a song that Charles Manson stole from the Beatles, We're stealing it back." Bono in "Rattle and Hum" Good article in the last Q. The last issue has a Hello/Goodbye feature on Neil Finn and Crowded House for us Crowded House fans out there. NP Roger McGuinn with Crowded House, Eight Miles High Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:22:54 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] An idea for a cd-tree? What do you think? 1: How about a CD of the same song (or 2/3/4 songs) with all the different artists doing their interpretation of them? 2:Looking forward to wednesday to seeing U2 (havn't bought one of their albums since "The Joshua Tree") at the NEC, should be a great show, but won't be dear to my heart & soul like the ROXY shows. Terry "O" NP: Bowie, Jean Genie "The Capital '97". - ----- Original Message ----- From: Han Snijders To: Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] An idea for a cd-tree? What do you think? > > But isn't the goal to put the version that the cover seems to have been > > inspired by? The version of "Love Me Or Leave Me" on _ATGB_ is virtually > > a note-for-note remake of Billie Holliday's version. > > > > Colleen > > Yes that's the goal and thanks to Reecey, Simon G, Daniel and Judy Kaufman > and myself :-)(and the cd-library) I almost have all the original songs. > The ATGB album is a bit difficult to do because it sometimes is clear that > Ferry was inspired by the BH version it's also interesting to hear the > original Broadway recording. What to do: include the German version of > Falling in love again (Ich bin von kopf bis fus auf liebe angestellt) or > Marlene Dietrich's English version? > > > Han > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 15:33:11 EDT From: Carolatay@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Club scene(Sheffield) May i just point out that i'm not 80 as my husband says, at the time i was not legally old enough to attend Roxy Night, but wouldn't have missed it, it was great. In a message dated 12/08/01 18:38:18 GMT Daylight Time, aleks50@yahoo.com writes: << SIMON GALLOWAY wrote: > My brothers did, who were both big Roxy (and Bowie) > fans. > >From: Carolatay@aol.com > > Did anyone used to go to Roxy night at the Crazy > Daisy in the good old 70's? Roxy nights at Crazy Daisy we're a couple of years before my time. I think that the place where the Crazy Daisy used to be is now a newsagents, shoe shop or something like that. Limit club is also no longer standing. I think I read somewhere that Ferry rates Sheffield City Hall as one of his favourite venues, don't know if this is true or not, but it is a nice place. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:47:23 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: [AVALON] NEW ROXY SINGLE RELEASED! I think I'm right in saying that Virginia Plain was released 29 years ago today. VP entered the UK charts on the 19th August 1972, so assume it was released a week before, anyway I got to buy some of the best singles of all time in '72. Heres my top ten for the year 1972. 1: Metal Guru - T.Rex. 2: All the young dudes - Mott the Hoople. 3: Virginia Plain - Roxy Music. 4: Starman - David Bowie. 5: Children of the Revolution - T.Rex. 6: Telegram Sam - T.Rex. 7: Standing inthe road - Blackwood Sue. 8: John, I'm only dancing - David Bowie. 9: Mama, were all crazee now - Slade 10: Schools out - Alice Cooper. Bubbling under: Vincent - Don McLean. Rock n Roll Pt 2 - Gary Glitter. I still have all of these discs in my collection and if I'm not mistaken No's 2,3,7 & 10 were all in the Top 10 at the same time! Just of to make a compilation of above. NP; Patrick Cowley - Mind Warp. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:46:46 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: [AVALON] Tickets Rotterdam - ----- Van: Miles Goosens Melissa and I are now seriously considering trying to go to a couple of the > September European dates. We were particularly eying the Antwerp and > Rotterdam dates, but we're open to suggestion. Does anyone know if tickets > are still available for the shows (the two Low Countries ones in > particular), I've checked it this weekend and their are still places available for Rotterdam, even in the middle of the arena (where you have to stand), Tickets are $40 / 28 pounds and a free Re Make Re Model afterparty Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 22:33:58 +0100 From: "David Elliot" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Tickets Rotterdam why not come to the glasgow gig in scotland sept 29th..loads of tickets ..let me know ....david - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Han Snijders" To: Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 9:46 PM Subject: [AVALON] Tickets Rotterdam > ----- > Van: Miles Goosens > > > Melissa and I are now seriously considering trying to go to a couple of > the > > September European dates. We were particularly eying the Antwerp and > > Rotterdam dates, but we're open to suggestion. Does anyone know if > tickets > > are still available for the shows (the two Low Countries ones in > > particular), > > I've checked it this weekend and their are still places available for > Rotterdam, even in the middle of the arena (where you have to stand), > Tickets are $40 / 28 pounds > and a free Re Make Re Model afterparty > > Han > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:49:17 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Out in the Open/Minneapolis Does anyone have the artwork for the Elton Hall boot Out in the Open? I know I had the art from someone at one point, but I can't find it and I'd like to add the image to the Strictly Confidential page this week. Also, if you're in the American H-M pile and were hesitant about contacting me about the Minneapolis 2001 show, please go ahead and do so as soon as you can, so I can massmail everyone in one big go. "I am certain the Starbucks in Athens is the very best of all Starbucks, thanks in no small part to your good self. It is, nevertheless, a Starbucks." -- me to Bria, Aug 01 Grant Goggans http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:28:59 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: [AVALON] A J L after jet lag Ciao Kids! I'm just back from USA but I'll write not about Chicago concert... It was great as U well know already.. .-))) I missed Paul but I wanted to thanx the Chicago bunch that I met after the concert at Hyatt.... Mary to be THE prairie rose.... Jas for his good taste in music and champagne... Kimberly, the BOTTICELLI's Venus on half SHELL,for hosting Andrew ,Kelly and all the Chicago fan club for liking(?sic ) Sorry for the cultural gap boys and girl.... :-) " Pleased to meet U... hope U guess my name"................ hope to see U next time danitaly ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #370 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest