From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #341 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, July 30 2001 Volume 06 : Number 341 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] noch viele schoenstse... wiedersehen (part 3b) [William Sommers ] Re: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] A Small Review of the Detroit Show ["GRANT R FELLOWS" ] [AVALON] Being Bryan Ferry. ["Eman 97" ] Re: [AVALON] noch viele schoenstse... wiedersehen (part 3b) [RiseGluck@ao] Re: [AVALON] A Small Review of the Detroit Show [Hank Szlenkier Subject: [AVALON] noch viele schoenstse... wiedersehen (part 3b) Oh my. I spent a bit of the first few numbers with the binoculars trained on their faces, and it was abundantly clear they showed up for this one. A smiling Phil -- who gave Ladytron an extended treatment -- and a present Ferry. Yes, *this* is why I walked out chanting my "I'm just going to give them another chance" mantra the previous night. Had Ms. Matan stopped shouting "They're like a hundred times better!" for a bit, I might even have had a chance to listen as well as watch. Lucy's OOTB solo was not only better mixed this time around, she was clearly more into it -- when she slithered down the first time (I'd say "squatted" but it sounds so much more crude) I'd swear my hormonal levels instantly doubled... whew! hadn't seen this move before. It's still not being mixed to a true crescendo at the end as on the ATGB versions I've seen on tape, but at least the volume was up tonight. Despite all the criticism, I did feel there were portions which were superior at Merriweather -- My Only Love being the first real one. Both Ferry's and Spedding's performances in this number really mesmerized me the previous night, and I just wasn't feeling it this time. I'd almost swear Chris' solo was shorter and the entire song was a little more "rushed", but am not sure. I just know I never had that exquisite dangling sensation waiting for the next note tonight. Ah, but then Dreamhome... brought a (bigger) smile to my face as it began. Not because I wanted to hear it in particular, but because It Meant Change. It's one of the numbers that I really don't feel I need to hear again, not in light of the entire body of work we could instead be witnessing. Ladytron falls into the same category (oddly though, not Casanova, which continues to thrill each time he rolls it out) -- they've simply been done, over and over. Had Ferry not chosen to do these on solo tour, I'd probably feel differently. And apart from the twist of Lucy's contribution, there was nothing special here... what was it Jocelyn had said? Nothing dark? Nothing menacing? Whatever it was, that's it exactly. Oh Yeah was interesting to me. First because of it's reception; I spent most of it just looking around at the crowd singing, swaying. Beautiful, so wonderful to see Roxy get that sort of response in the U.S., an absolute joy to watch. Second (you knew I couldn't leave a good thing alone, right?), it was where Ferry began to lose control of the evening -- somewhere in there his voice had moved from hitting the inflections to what I might attempt to describe as "singing through the middle" or "a little reedy" rather than bold. BEB rocked, though not as strongly as previously, then Tara. More change?, I hoped. Nope. Another short weak Avalon, and then I held my breath... The crowd had dropped to the lowest volume level of the evening, and I just couldn't bring myself to interrupt the tension (or was it complete lack of?) by shouting "Pearl!" here during the one period when they might actually have heard it. Where's KB when you need her? I settled for a few private rounds of Oh please! Oh please! but it was not to be. And it's of course just an opinion, but I think that was a big mistake. Dance Away was nothing great without the full voice (though the crowd was again a pleasure to watch), but Jealous Guy was a disaster. It was falling apart every which way by the middle and though the band was absolutely heroic in their thundering attempt to rekindle the fire at the end, I'm afraid Bryan had already called it a night. Thus the final four were the other portion where they had excelled on the previous night. Any hopes for salvage had been dashed and I really felt nothing coming from the stage. Sure, they went through the motions, as did I, but no magic at all. Having seen the first non-Virginia Plain close 24 hours prior, there was an interesting moment in here for me -- at the end of EOY, everybody unstrapped while Ferry took a couple of bows, but they remained standing there holding their instruments close at hand for several seconds. Clearly ignoring my chants of Play it! Play it! (yes surely, a personal affront), Ferry finally took a deep swooping bow, during which they all began to shift the weight of their instruments and began the turn to walk back and put them down. I'd swear that not a one knew whether they'd be flying down to Rio or not until they took Bryan's 'nay' cue. Paul and the girls of course never give up, and at least Speddo looked like he was still having fun, but I suspect Phil and Andy are a little more in tune to Ferry's mood and know the score too well. Nothing more to see here folks, 10 more minutes until quitting time. So, we got half of a much better performance tonight, and even just the knowledge that they're still capable of transcendence makes for a deep sense of satisfaction. The 100,000 Roxy Mile Club disagreed, BTW... consensus ran that we had witnessed another evening of lackluster barrel scrapings. By my reckoning, just further proof, and bolstered hopes that the heavens will indeed align for one of my (at least) three remaining shows. Charter Club Member Fiske proved that she both does exist and did make it to Boston via a brief post-gig appearance out front (I'm still not convinced that Heather was there), then Ms. Matan and a couple of Scotsmen added ballast to the rental and we sped our way in a southerly direction for a day of recovery. Well, hopefully some of the party recovered... I personally was dragged out of my bed not three hours after we were introduced. Cape Cod vittles: lobster, steamers, cod (with lobster sauce) I regret only that lobster was mercilessly foisted upon us before the Sunday morning caffeine had fully kicked in. My carefully crafted culinary itinerary had of course called for a bluefish sandwich. Bastards. While waiting on late buses at yet another ungodly hour on Monday morning, JO'B unleashed the phrase "If you're ever in Scotland... " and I was dumb struck. As so many have reported before, the best part really has been the people -- the music in a sense but something around which to organize. The reality of that perfectly normal commonplace 5-word utterance hit me like a ton of bricks. It was over. Thanks one and all for such a Really Good, Really Good Time. No question at all that I'd do it all again, just to relive... -wfs (next stop, Concord, then LA times 2) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:30:50 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! Blur did perform their singles in chronological order, so why could not Roxy do the same thing? Seriously, what would it cost to book them for a fan concert, a second Mad Affair? NP Miles Davis, Concierto de Aranjuez (Adagio) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:51:07 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] das Spiel geht weiter (part 2) At 11.04 -0700 1-07-29, William Sommers wrote: > Shouted "Pearl!" with KB -- a blessing she was >there to help out -- at every opportunity. Gee, PD James should have tipped me of. It's me being a male and all that, but I have thought of KB Porter as a he. After watching a rather famous Swedish journalist, a masters of PhD in History (I can't remember which) who I've worked with, talking about being a born-again Christian on TV and quiting her respected job as a columnist at a prestigeful daily to work for a church weekly and discussing if God is a he or a she... It's been a strange, hot day. The journalist whose radio interview and Andy M got me into Roxy Music 1976 is now, I've discovered, hosting a Swedish translation of a British TV series of police videos of traffic violators... Great read, William Sommers! Well, I get philosophical after walking the dogs in an orchard... NP Miles Davis, Will O' The Wisp Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:17:24 EDT From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] J.O'B's World Tour of USA Well as usual, it took me longer to drive from home to Glasgow airport than it took to fly the Atlantic. After a 75-minute train journey from Newark to Philadelphia, I was on the phone to Scotland in Philly train station when I recognised a pair of trousers walking through the train station. There was only one bum that they could belong to and that was of no less than Jocelyn. I couldn't believe my luck; her entourage included Reecey, Therese & Vanessa whom I had planned to meet several hours later at the show. At the Tweeter centre we met a few USA list members. The clichi phrase of the week was " are you on the list" which can have a whole different meaning in UK. It was nice to meet so many people in person after knowing them for so long. Into the show, and here was my first experience of Roxy Music stateside. I was further back than I had been in UK but it was good to se the stage set from afar. I t was hard to know what I made of the show. I looked around me during Love Is The Drug and everyone was on their feet dancing like there was no tomorrow. I wondered why I wasn't onto it and then I looked at my watch and realised my body thought it was 3:25 AM as I had just left Scotland that morning. I find it hard to get into Love Is The Drug at 3:25 PM never mind AM. So to keep the website updated I had to call Scotland and dictate over the phone at a dollar a minute the highlights, or lack of, to Emma who bleary eyed uploaded the site when any sensible person in Scotland was making ZZZZs. I had established before this show that Victor Hastings was driving to Washington the next day for the Merryweather show and he kindly offered me a lift. 2 hours each way of Roxy chat made the journey pass by quickly. We both walked into a bar in Maryland and I could recognise some faces at a table and I heard a voice whispering, "that's John O'Brien". I was introduced to Kay Porter, Heather James and her friend Emma. Newly wed Gina joined us after a wee while with her new husband. Colleen a Will joined us later and to my luck Colleen had a spare ticket, 6th row which did me fine as I didn't have any ticket at all. I found the Maryland show a wee bit lacklustre compared to some of the previous shows I had been to. I felt the band felt like " I suppose we have to play this song" during Avalon & Dance Away and the crowd equally felt like "I suppose we have to listen to this song " during these numbers, which were not, the crowd pleasers that Roxy anticipated. On the way back I was glad Victor stopped for fuel as I still hadn't done the obligatory transatlantic phone call to update the website just in case some wee guy on an island off Tonga was sitting up patiently waiting on the Maryland review. Off to Boston the next day where I met up with my UK compadriates again and some other USA listees. I met in addition to the others I met at the previous shows, Ilene from Queens and her friend, Emma who was dressed just like a Roxy girl with her long black gloves and hat. The show in Boston just didn't do anything for me. I don't know if I was still jetlagged, the sound in a tent made it sound like I had a pair of socks in my ears (white ones of course) or was I just all Roxied out, probably a combination of those. Before I let the venue for Cape Cod, I had to phone Emma with the review of that show. One ring and it was answered, by now her body clock wakens her at 4 AM, she doesn't want to let down that wee guy from Tonga. A wee bit of overdue respite was had at Cape Cod on the Sunday thanks to the kindness if Will and his family. Myself, Reecey, Colleen had the most relaxing time in one of the prettiest parts of the world. The heat was not quite what you get in Scotland and I discovered that what I now save on shampoo, I spend on sun cream for my follicley challenged head. Only Reecey and me had this problem, Will had no problem with his nor did Colleen with any of her heads. Off to New York the next day which started with the disaster of losing my wallet. Thanks to Reecey I got over this temporary problem. It was found on the bus so it wasn't too bad. The show in New York was just night and day from the previous 3 I went to in USA, so the too much Roxy for me theory was out. You just can't put a finger on why a show is so much better than another, but I suppose the inclusion of Mother Of Pearl helped. By the time this tour is finished, I will have seen Roxy/Ferry live in concert about 40 times (30 of that in the last 2 years) and at each show they have done Avalon, Jealous Guy, Love Is The Drug & Do The Strand at each of them. So it takes a lot for me to get excited about these songs. Roxy had pulled the rabbit out the hat when they introduced Yannick Etienne to the stage for Avalon. This was in fact the first time that she had appeared with Roxy and her angelic vocals gave the song the edge that it needed all through the tour. The impromptu after show party that we had in Mustang Harry's was one of the best nights I have had. About 25 of us ended up there complete with a wallet full of Roxy CDs. The barman duly obliged with the CDs on the Hi-Fi and we mimicked every line of every song culminating in us walking out the bar one by one at the end of For Your Pleasure. The other people in the bar (who were outnumbered) looked on in amazement. The review was yelled down the phone over the top of Stronger Through The Years blasting out from behind the bar. Emma managed to decipher the Johnny Walker tinged slur down the phone and make some sense of what I said about the show. Our man in Tonga might have shook his head if Emma wrote the review they way my drunken Scottish accent sounded at the time. 10/10 for Emma's translation skills. The second NYC show was just as good as the first and it was a good way to end my week in USA. I did the quick phone call back to Emma in Scotland after the show, "hello John " she says immediately, " how did you know it was me" I asked, "well who else would be phoning here at 4 in the morning" Reecey and me did a wee bit of the tourist on Wednesday before I flew home to Scotland to look back at what was a memorable week. The highlight yet again was meeting all the new faces and I hope I will be back in USA and meet some of you again. John O'Brien ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:26:25 EDT From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] J.O'B's World Tour Of USA (PART1) Well as usual, it took me longer to drive from home to Glasgow airport than it took to fly the Atlantic. After a 75-minute train journey from Newark to Philadelphia, I was on the phone to Scotland in Philly train station when I recognised a pair of trousers walking through the train station. There was only one bum that they could belong to and that was of no less than Jocelyn. I couldn't believe my luck her entourage included Reecey, Therese & Vanessa whom I had planned to meet several hours later at the show. At the Tweeter centre we met a few USA list members. The clichi phrase of the week was " are you on the list" which can have a whole different meaning in UK. It was nice to meet so many people in person after knowing them for so long. Into the show, and here was my first experience of Roxy Music stateside. I was further back than I had been in UK but it was good to se the stage set from afar. I t was hard to know what I made of the show. I looked around me during Love Is The Drug and everyone was on their feet dancing like there was no tomorrow. I wondered why I wasn't onto it and then I looked at my watch and realised my body thought it was 3:25 AM as I had just left Scotland that morning. I find it hard to get into Love Is The Drug at 3:25 PM never mind AM. So to keep the website updated I had to call Scotland and dictate over the phone at a dollar a minute the highlights, or lack of, to Emma who bleary eyed uploaded the site when any sensible person in Scotland was making ZZZZs. I had established before this show that Victor Hastings was driving to Washington the next day for the Merryweather show and he kindly offered me a lift. 2 hours each way of Roxy chat made the journey pass by quickly. We both walked into a bar in Maryland and I could recognise some faces at a table and I heard a voice whispering, "that's John O'Brien". I was introduced to Kay Porter, Heather James and her friend Emma. Newly wed Gina joined us after a wee while with her new husband. Colleen a Will joined us later and to my luck Colleen had a spare ticket, 6th row which did me fine as I didn't have any ticket at all. I found the Maryland show a wee bit lacklustre compared to some of the previous shows I had been to. I felt the band felt like " I suppose we have to play this song" during Avalon & Dance Away and the crowd equally felt like "I suppose we have to listen to this song " during these numbers, which were not, the crowd pleasers that Roxy anticipated. On the way back I was glad Victor stopped for fuel as I still hadn't done the obligatory transatlantic phone call to update the website just in case some wee guy on an island off Tonga was sitting up patiently waiting on the Maryland review. Off to Boston the next day where I met up with my UK compadriates again and some other USA listees. I met in addition to the others I met at the previous shows, Ilene from Queens and her friend, Emma who was dressed just like a Roxy girl with her long black gloves and hat. The show in Boston just didn't do anything for me. I don't know if I was still jetlagged, the sound in a tent made it sound like I had a pair of socks in my ears (white ones of course) or was I just all Roxied out, probably a combination of those. Before I let the venue for Cape Cod, I had to phone Emma with the review of that show. One ring and it was answered, by now her body clock wakens her at 4 AM, she doesn't want to let down that wee guy from Tonga. A wee bit of overdue respite was had at Cape Cod on the Sunday thanks to the kindness if Will and his family. Myself, Reecey, Colleen had the most relaxing time in one of the prettiest parts of the world. The heat was not quite what you get in Scotland and I discovered that what I now save on shampoo, I spend on sun cream for my follicley challenged head. Only Reecey and me had this problem, Will had no problem with his nor did Colleen with any of hers either. To be continued John O'Brien ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:29:41 -0700 From: "Dawne A. Streutker" Subject: [AVALON] Chastain, blonde dancing, Roxy jammin! Hello Gang, yeah, I have resorted to lurking the past year or so, but I did fly out to Atlanta and just got back today....LOVED the show, LOVED the Chastain Venue....and yeah, the jets overhead were a bit surprising...but all in all, I loved the show and the people I was with!! I too missed Mother of Pearl..that would have rocked!!! And Dammit!!! Had I been paying attention to the list I may have known WHERE Bry and the guys were post-concert...Instead, my Southern hosts took me via Limo to Buckhead...to some club called BellBottoms! Fun!! BTW!! I was the blonde chick in the pit about 5 tables back, dancing in the spotlight...woohoo. Hope I did not block any of you, but it was a venue in which you could move around. Back to lurking...and maybe a litle reading...sorry I missed the gang, but I had a crazy group I was hanging with.... Best, Dawne ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:46:56 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] A gay old time In a message dated 7/29/01 12:34:46 PM, Avalon887@aol.com writes: << Hi Andrew. When is the Chicago show? New York was soooooooooo good! I forget, were you there? Eileen in Kew Gardens >> Tonight! No, I wasn't in New York, but I was in Boston. Can't wait... Andrew In Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:53:20 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Gay People Are Nice >>The gay community is full of wonderful people. Promise. I've said this before, as a straight person, I consider the average gay person nicer than the average straight person. There are not a lot of Gay vs Straight hate crimes etc. I always judge real friends this way: You got a flat tire? Real friends show up to help you out. Faux friends offer an excuse. A gay friend is there for you more often that a straight friend. Hows that for a generalization? e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 23:44:27 -0500 From: "GRANT R FELLOWS" Subject: [AVALON] A Small Review of the Detroit Show Hello all, My name is Rachel and I'm going to briefly de-lurk here to tell how the Detroit show was since there are only a handful of people from the Detroit area on the list. I'm pretty sure everything is pretty much the same as earlier shows. Re-make/Re-model rocked, no Virginia Plain (boo hoo) but an awesome Mother of Pearl (yay!) which started while I was in the bathroom unfortunately. I personally thought that Love is the Drug left much to be desired but the friend I was with thought it was awesome. No Casanova either (grrr...) but Song for Europe was awesome. The whole band sounded really tight and the Vegas dancers (or whatever) were really fun/ny. Bryan's silver suit was tres cool. Rufus Wainwright was lovely. DTE Energy and Music Center (formerly Pine Knob) has really good sound. Unfortunately it rained---bad---so bad our umbrella flipped inside out. But then some drunk guy came up to us and gave us his pavillion tickets so we were able to enjoy the rest of the show in dryness. All in all I had a great time despite the wet conditions. Although my friend and I thought that the storm added a really cool atmoshpere. At one point a really cool lightening bolt flashed during a key point in one of the songs which I thought was pretty cool. All the rest of you that are seeing upcoming shows are gonna have a rockin' time. Take care, Rachel D ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnny Reece Subject: [AVALON] Letter from America (2) Fri 20th July, New York City. Lots of tourist stuff to do, including going to the one place I missed out on the last time I was in NYC, almost 11 years ago - the Empire State Building. Queued for about 2 hours to get up there, and my camera jammed. Timing, eh ? Sat 21st - Boston bound... Checked emails beforehand, and saw the 'Barking Crab' was the place to meet for all and sundry. Got there a little early after a train trip spent mostly asleep. Everyone seemed to arrive almost at once - Mr Meyers & 2 friends, J.O'B, Coleen, Will, Eileen and friend, Emma & friend, and many more (sorry - it's all a blur !). Extremely pleasant Seafood frenzy followed, and towards the Fleet Pavilion we went, and met up with Jocelyn & Crew, Andrew, David, Trez, Vanessa etc. Took our seats, and here's where it all went wrong, for a while. I can't really explain it - most of you know me - I'm one of the loudest speakers on the pro-Roxy front - but, for the first time in oh so long, I felt they let me down, and it really made me angry. What on earth had happened to the Band that had thrilled me, and so many others, in the UK just a couple of weeks beforehand ? Was it just me ? Was it the seats - quite far away, or the sound which echoed around and disappeared ? Or large parts of the crowd who would insist on talking about 'their day' loudly during the quieter numbers of the gig, perpetually getting up & down, walking in & out for more drinks, as if it was a bloody picnic ? Or was it the Band ? I don't really have an answer, except it must have been a combination of all of these, but for the first time in, oh, 'ever' probably - I thought they sucked. There didn't seem to be much effort going on up there. J.O'B was beside me, and felt the same way. The horrible thought occured to me that I could be all 'Roxied out'. Surely not ? (It was to be a couple of days later until I discovered this was certainly not the case). Various opinions outside by all, baffled me. Some plainly loved it. Hey, it must be me ! But I was annoyed, the last thing I wanted was to feel let down, but that's the way it was. I seriously questioned the inclusion of both Sarah and Julia in the entire set-up - - and almost expected to be hung, drawn and quartered on the spot by friends outside. (Gasps of "What did you say ? Did he really say that" ?) But that's how I genuinely felt. What a downer... I thought immediately ahead to the NYC gigs up and coming, and hoped things would be different... Late evening, and a merry band jumped into the car, for the drive to Cape Cod, stopping off on the way at a slow-food place for sustinence. What a brilliant weekend, amazing. Lots of laughs. Lots of Lobster. Lots of Sun. Lots of Beach. A tonic. Myself, J.O'B, Will, and Colleen, discussing the world and his wife (and their Albums) at a little rooftop restaurant late on Sunday night. All seemed well again, and us 4 had such a laugh, apart from the fight. Monday morning appeared, all too quickly, and it was up bright and early for the bus to Boston, to catch the connecting train to NYC with John. At Boston Stn - horror of horrors - John discovered his wallet was missing. No time for a thorough check - we had to be on that train, as the first of the Roxy NYC gigs was just hours away. We'd sort these problems out later. Straight to the New Yorker Hotel, just across from Madison Square Garden, and things were about to change once again... (continued later...) Reecey... Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:52:19 -0700 From: "Eman 97" Subject: [AVALON] Being Bryan Ferry. On being Bryan Ferry in previous lives.... I had this thought yesterday. I discovered Roxy etc., when I was 18, when Siren was out. Now, no matter how much I might have idolized the guy...there is no way I could have been a Ferry Clone Wanna be etc. First, at that point, the space age futurist stuff was over. And the wanna be male model/matinee idol stuff was on in full gear. There is no way, no how, any 18 year old American Male at college could have gotten into that scene...in 1975....without being considered seriously French. Maybe in NY. I can't see it in LA at that time. That is one consideration. The other consideration, is a creative look, like Roxy's space glam in 72/72, one could emulate at home. But when Bry went to the high fashion look it was hard to cook up at home. Sure thrift stores were good for the para-military, gaucho stuff. But the Bogart, Gable etc., forget it, pure fantasy, and the average fan could not go along. Men, in the USA, did not dress up yet. Few knew who Armani and Versace were. (I did cos my Grandmother owned an upscale women's "dress shop," and subscribed to W and GQ. But still, at that age there just wasn't the economy or the situation in non NY America to go that far with the Roxy look. Perhaps that impeded their success here. By many accounts, men in the USA began dressing again with the advent of......MTV. Duran Duran and Spandau, launched the "Roxy" look in the USA, guys started wearing cooler suits to things other than work. (Side note: A large segment of US black pop culture had started to shift to high fashion, as the founders of Chic had been in London, seen Bryan Ferry on TOTP, and decided to ditch the Earth Wind and Fire neo spacewear Afro look. Nile Rodgers cites this as a major influence in a MM interview in 1980, I believe.) (Of course than rap lead to hip hop and the whole thing changed again.) My point, I wonder how many of us old wanna be Bryan Ferry's can now pursue the style we couldn't pursue then...and of course could not afford then? Ultimately, Bryan is an ideal. Like an old time movie star. He drifted toward that image, created it, mastered it. And few of us can compete. But he is an everyman too.... Coal miners son. Goofy smile. He never has lost his loyal audience....seeming highbrow, but not so distant that he alienated the clan.... e _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 02:33:06 EDT From: RiseGluck@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] noch viele schoenstse... wiedersehen (part 3b) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:14:19 -0400 From: Hank Szlenkier Subject: Re: [AVALON] A Small Review of the Detroit Show To add to Rachel's review. A few of us did meet before the show. Arnie Schulberg and young son, Alec, Amy Simonelli and husband, Allen, Mark Shannahan and Jan as well as myself and my wife, Anne, all met for the first time to share a meal and Avalonia talk before the concert. Excellent time. I imagine the response from the crowds have been great throughout the tour. Detroit was no exception. The Detroit crowd's long winded standing ovation and cheering seemed to be overwhelming for the Band. On several occasions, it caused them to stand back, smile and wave as they tried to get back on track to go on with the concert. I've seen a lot of concerts in my time including Bryan Ferry and/or Roxy Music a half dozen times or so, but I can't remember as intense an audience response as tonight's. We tried to catch up with the Band for autographs after the show. Close but no cigar. Bryan's van drove out the theatre compound, slowed but did not stop. He did roll down his window, smiled warmly and waved. Oh what little crumbs do sustain. On to Chicago. Maybe the few, the faithful can snag some autographs and some handshakes then. Hank Szlenkier GRANT R FELLOWS wrote: > Hello all, > > My name is Rachel and I'm going to briefly de-lurk here to tell how the > Detroit show was since there are only a handful of people from the Detroit > area on the list. > > I'm pretty sure everything is pretty much the same as earlier shows. > Re-make/Re-model rocked, no Virginia Plain (boo hoo) but an awesome Mother > of Pearl (yay!) which started while I was in the bathroom unfortunately. I > personally thought that Love is the Drug left much to be desired but the > friend I was with thought it was awesome. No Casanova either (grrr...) but > Song for Europe was awesome. The whole band sounded really tight and the > Vegas dancers (or whatever) were really fun/ny. > > Bryan's silver suit was tres cool. > > Rufus Wainwright was lovely. > > DTE Energy and Music Center (formerly Pine Knob) has really good sound. > Unfortunately it rained---bad---so bad our umbrella flipped inside out. But > then some drunk guy came up to us and gave us his pavillion tickets so we > were able to enjoy the rest of the show in dryness. > > All in all I had a great time despite the wet conditions. Although my > friend and I thought that the storm added a really cool atmoshpere. At one > point a really cool lightening bolt flashed during a key point in one of the > songs which I thought was pretty cool. > All the rest of you that are seeing upcoming shows are gonna have a rockin' > time. > > Take care, > Rachel D > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #341 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest