From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #340 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, July 29 2001 Volume 06 : Number 340 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Oh dear. [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON]To Be Or Not To Be [KB Porter ] [AVALON] three original members! [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] old setlists ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] Pla##NET of AP*EZ [KB Porter ] [AVALON] Bryan on E! True Hollywood Story [Artman1@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! ["jimbo" ] Re: [AVALON] old setlists [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] A gay old time [Avalon887@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Bry is French [Avalon887@aol.com] [AVALON] Queer! [Robedwardsroxy@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! ["Duncan Watkins" ] [AVALON] 2 records? ["PeteK" ] [AVALON] noch viele schoenstse... wiedersehen (part 3a) [William Sommers ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:15:26 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Oh dear. "Is he a man More sinned against than sinning?" Ah, yes, Christian. Perhaps the dear dentist has rightful cause to be concerned. That he now finds himself fearful of the unknown may indicate an activated conscious that had been deeply repressed for the sake of his trade. Recently re-animated, perhaps due to the 'lost cap' incident, the experimental dentist has become fraught with anxiety. Brace yourself - but time has come for the sinner to receive his overdue root canal. Have you anesthesia? Neil, may we help you? Retribution is near! Sit back, relax. Tell me, if it is safe..... Mamouna to you, KBP PS. Neil, please send us your address. '-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:22:13 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON]To Be Or Not To Be ["Well said Jock, and no way is he a poof, so fuckin' pack it in!" JF ] If he were a 'poof' would it matter? Just pack it in, Froxy. Either feign respect for the man's private life, or go share your life with Thom Wallace who'll no doubt tell you to 'get a life'! Whatever life you choose, remember it is yours alone. Could be, your best friend or spouse is a 'poof'. Could be your child or preacher is a 'poof'. Even perhaps that teacher whom you hold in high esteem because he was the only teacher you've ever had that demanded your best work effort - the only one who ever really taught you anything worth knowing - - the only one who genuinely cared about you, the student as a person, who gave you respect, too, is a 'poof'. Could be, anyone you care about is a 'poof'? Does it matter? Would it matter? Why? There already exists too much hatred. I wish you well. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 09:18:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] three original members! POP QUIZ Bryan Ferry Roxy front man flashing fewer sequins Aidin Vaziri, Special to The Chronicle Sunday, July 29, 2001 )2001 San Francisco Chronicle Eighteen years after playing their last show together, three original members of Roxy Music have rejoined for a 50-date world tour. The show reaches the Chronicle Pavilion next Sunday. We spoke with the group's debonair front man, Bryan Ferry, 56, about clothes, reconciliation and former paramour Jerry Hall. Q: What period of Roxy Music fashion are you going to revive for this tour - - the sequined cat suits or the military coats? A: Hopefully the 2001 period. Q: I think people would be disappointed if they came to a Roxy Music show and didn't see feathers and glitter. A: Well, we do have three girls in the band, so maybe they can oblige. Q: Are your platform days over? A: Well, I think so. Occasionally, you might catch me in a cowboy boot with a finely tuned heel, but not the platform soles. Q: The insurance company won't cover that one? A: I think they might be a bit dubious. Q: Do you still fit into all the old jumpsuits? A: If not the stage clothes, I think I still fit into the music, from all periods. I found on my own tour last year that even doing things like "Virginia Plain," which was one of the more up-tempo or youthful of the songs, I didn't feel undignified at all. It's just good fun. I think it's going to be good. We've got some good people roped in. On the stage set, we've got people who worked with us on the first two Roxy albums. Q: Are you going to re-create any of those racy album covers onstage? A: Like a tableau? I'm hoping the audience will do that for me. Q: I think the natural reaction when hearing Roxy Music is to take off your clothes. A: That's true. Q: Is that why you wanted this reunion tour? A: No, but that's a nice idea. I had been on tour during the last year with my own project, and as the tour progressed throughout that year, I kept adding new songs from the old Roxy Music repertoire that I wrote a long time ago. I was struck by a) how much I enjoyed singing them, and b) how much the audience was enjoying it as well. That's what led me toward this. Q: Did someone have to offer you a lot of money to actually make it happen? A: We just needed somebody with a very positive plan to come along and say, "This is the tour I'm asking you to do." That's how it happened, and I'm very pleased, really. Q: But why now? A: Well, people saw that I was out and about performing again. There is a tremendous amount of goodwill toward the band and the music. I think because our last album, "Avalon," was also our most popular one has something to do with it -- that the band went out with a bang, not a whimper. I'm hoping that we will come back with a bang. Although the plan is only to come back with these concerts. There's no plan for recording as such. Q: Does the reunion mean you'll also be getting back together with Jerry Hall? A: Oh, doubtful. Q: Are you not rich enough to be her friend anymore? A: Well, I'm very happily married, so I think it's a nonquestion. My kids might have an opinion or two about that. Q: Why wasn't Brian Eno invited to come along even though he was an original member of the group? A: Brian was never really considered to do the tour because he doesn't have a touring life. I did speak to him three years ago about the prospect of doing some gigs together, just me and him, and he said, "Oh God, no. I can't possibly go onstage again." So I assumed that was a forever "no" kind of thing. But I do have great contact with him and a very cordial relationship. One of the songs on my new solo album, in fact, is a co-write with Brian Eno. Q: Were there hurt feelings there? A: There might have been, but I shouldn't think so. I've lost touch with him in the last year and a half while he's been in Ireland working with U2. So I haven't seen him for a while. Q: Are you sure you can manage without him? A: Oh God, yes. We'll be doing quite a large proportion of the first few albums. I like a lot of the songs from that time. "For Your Pleasure," the second album, is my favorite, really. Q: Why did the band break up in the first place? A: I suppose it was me being difficult. I'd just gotten married, and I didn't want the touring lifestyle anymore. And I wanted to experiment with working with other people. Sometimes the chemistry runs dry, or you need to do new things and you're curious to experiment with other musicians. You don't want to feel that you're joined at the hip forever to the same people. Now, it's interesting again. Q: The chemistry is still there? A: Very much so, yeah. *** Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:25:52 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] old setlists Any chance of a copy? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] old setlists > In a message dated 29/07/01 10:49:52 GMT Daylight Time, > terrypaulrigz8c@supanet.com writes: > > << I'm not an expert, but to my knowledge and faultering memory (god I hate > being over 40, but happy I saw those early tours), heres the tracks I've > never heard live: > > I have live video/audio/BBC sessions of the following from your list > 1: Bitters End. > 6: A really good time. (an opportunity mist on the ATGB tour) > 8: Could it happen to me? > 9: Nightingale > 15: Same old scene > 16: Eight miles high > 17: Rain rain rain > 21: The space between > 23: To turn you on > > John O'Brien > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:29:28 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: [AVALON] Censorship Should one choose to lead a public life and then assume they have a right to privacy? Yes. But it is naive for any public figure to expect that their right to privacy will not be violated at times, since human decency does not always prevail. Given human nature, one must reasonably expect that people will think and do things that one deems inappropriate, not kind, or genteel. As part of the public domain, one should be careful not to be fooled - once a truth or lie concerning a figure publicly exists, that figure is not owed any courtesy of silence. (That is not to say the figure is not entitled to available legal remedy). It is one thing to discuss various available information, it is another to initiate and promulgate salacious or slanderous information or rumor. Each individual must decide what is expectable personal behavior - to gossip or not to gossip - - to spew forth obscenities or not - to perpetrate abuse and display prejudiced claims aimed to debase another person's inherent dignity or not. Do not be naive. The only control that may be effectively exerted is that of self-control. Guides to acceptable behavior may only be suggested. It is not reasonable to demand that a collective of various individuals, who freely congregate, adopt a request from external sources seeking to censor that group's discussion of any matter. It is totally reasonable that every individual has the responsibility to grasp the idea that what you read, what you say, what you do is at your own peril. If you pick up a smut-mag expecting it to be healthy and wholesome, you are naive. If you go to a children's show expecting graphic violence, sex and pornography, you are naive and stupid. Do not read Avalon List unless you are prepared to read a very diverse body of facts, fictions, opinions and ideas. Avalon List has but one responsibility to the persons who are the subjects of our discussions - a responsibility to not create lies, not to libel our subjects. A reader would hope each contributing member would be in command of their 'better' self and would not engage in the creation or dissemination of ignorant and harmful ideas about others. But to try and impose a code of conduct beyond one that requires each individual to self-censor is neither practical nor very desirable. If Bryan Ferry's camp want a sanitized fairyland they are free to try and create it somewhere other than Avalon List. It has been said before, Avalon List is a list by fans, for fans. It does not exist solely to bolster the egos of its subjects, it exists to discuss, to examine, and to postulate. Do no evil, is the only rule I see which may be applied across the collective world. Responsibility begins with each individual, is promulgated with love, and is spread through interaction with others. Those who hate are void of a sense of personal responsibility and they will engage in undesirable behavior. We might try to control others, but that is wrong and irrational. The best one may do is to 'proof' loved ones who may be at risk of finding personal offense in the things they hear, read, and see in the outside world. That is, educate those around you that things are not always what they appear to be, that truth and lies may be very unkind, that external influences are controllable only at a personal level - a matter of perspective. It is not prudent to force your value system and code of ethics upon an other's eyes and ears merely for your own gratification. And when you find the answer, bring it home to me. Best wishes. K.B.Porter ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:39:24 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pla##NET of AP*EZ Dear Monkey, Aged trEE: I am saddened that you were at the DC show and didn't swing by for some fun. Perhaps some day......we'll art deco a show. Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:45:25 EDT From: Artman1@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Bryan on E! True Hollywood Story Hey all, Was just watching the E! True Hollywood Story about Jerry Hall and Mick Jagger and, as one would expect, there were references to and pictures of Bryan(with and without Hall). Some good photos I hadn't seen before. Check it out if you have a chance. Art ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:01:52 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! FOR TICKETS CONTACT "IN MY/YOUR DREAMS" BOX OFFICE NUMBER: DIED AND GONE HEAVEN 001. Book the entire venue, each night, for all good Avalonians. Now, if they would just do the dream gigs, and we all went...... What heaven! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:57:58 +0200 From: "jimbo" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! Nice one . It sure would be a perfect END OF THE LINE ..... jim - ----- Original Message ----- From: terrypaulrigz8c To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 4:35 PM Subject: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! > OK, so there is just one show to be booked, how about this. > They should book a London Theatre of 4 nights. Doing their final concert ( > maybe ever) in 4 stages. > Set Lists: > 1st night: All songs from Roxy Music & FYP. Plus VP & Pyjamarama. > 2nd night: Stranded & Country Life. > 3rd night: Siren & Manifesto. including both versions of Angel Eyes. > 4th night: Flesh & Blood & Avalon, plus Jealous Guy. > Now before you all throw up your hands and say its crazy I KNOW. > BUT some of the piano based numbers could be done very simply, IE: 2HB, Beauty > Queen, Just Like You, Tryptich, End of the Line, etc. > If Bryan needed to rest his voice the band could do the b-sides, anyone for a > Hula Kula! > There could be official live CDs & DVDs of each night available through > Expression. > Don't you all think this is a brilliant idea in theory? > If not very practical. > Terry. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:18:00 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] old setlists At 15.42 +0100 1-07-29, SIMON GALLOWAY wrote: >> 12: Cry Cry Cry >Definitely performed in Stockholm 1979. Is there a bootleg from Stockholm 1979?!? They recorded it, but I was to chicken and highminded to steal the tapes. NP Four Tops, Are You Man Enough Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:27:17 EDT From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] A gay old time Hi Andrew. When is the Chicago show? New York was soooooooooo good! I forget, were you there? Eileen in Kew Gardens ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:42:06 EDT From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bry is French Who cares? It's all about Bryan being the man he is and the sounds that come out of his mouth and those moves he makes strutting across the stage. And of course, his whistling to me in Jealous Guy! (yes I'm dreaming!) BTW ... to all my friends who were at Harry's pub Tuesday night... my car is just fine... I think someone was trying to tell me to get home early that night! and I had a fabulous vacation down at the Jersey shore. Here's to many more years of Roxy Music! Eileen in Kew Gardens ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:56:11 EDT From: Robedwardsroxy@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Queer! As a Roxy Music / Bryan Ferry fan who happens to be gay I thank you for the debate. My friends always used to ask if I fancied Bryan! NO!!!! I liked the music! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 18:59:15 +0100 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! what about the avalon list organising gig 50-yes seriously,if you could choose the setlist and choose a dancing/non dancing seat how much would you be prepared to pay?! duncan. >From: "terrypaulrigz8c" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: >CC: >Subject: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! >Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:35:07 +0100 > >OK, so there is just one show to be booked, how about this. >They should book a London Theatre of 4 nights. Doing their final concert ( >maybe ever) in 4 stages. >Set Lists: >1st night: All songs from Roxy Music & FYP. Plus VP & Pyjamarama. >2nd night: Stranded & Country Life. >3rd night: Siren & Manifesto. including both versions of Angel Eyes. >4th night: Flesh & Blood & Avalon, plus Jealous Guy. >Now before you all throw up your hands and say its crazy I KNOW. >BUT some of the piano based numbers could be done very simply, IE: 2HB, >Beauty >Queen, Just Like You, Tryptich, End of the Line, etc. >If Bryan needed to rest his voice the band could do the b-sides, anyone for >a >Hula Kula! >There could be official live CDs & DVDs of each night available through >Expression. >Don't you all think this is a brilliant idea in theory? >If not very practical. >Terry. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 11:02:39 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: [AVALON] Bitter-sweet Applause (part 1) [I've recently spent time in the company of both Mr. Reese and Ms. Matan. So not only do you get the blow-by-blow, but the long-sentence version. Unedited even. And figuring even the closest will need to travel some 2400 miles (one-way) to exact any sort of revenge I'd actually fear, you'll find nothing circumspect regarding fellow perpetrators here.] Thursday, July 19, 9:30am. I've given up on attempting to pack the proper attire -- three-and-a-half days, three cities, just too much trouble. Besides, I'm dead tired and there's still another hour's worth of things to take care of before having to leave in 30 minutes. I do manage to make the gate right before the doors close and the plane pulls away with mere seconds to spare in order to maintain that all-important "on-time departure" statistic, and we enter slot #26 in the take-off queue. 80 minutes later and we're airborne. Washington, D.C. Courtesy of a rather confused fellow passenger and a very patient shuttle driver, I am provided the opportunity of playing tour-guide to seemingly the entire Georgetown University campus for my Australian seat neighbor. Some hour+ after boarding the 35-minute shuttle, it is now indisputably Friday as I arrive at Chez Colleen. Ms. Matan is indeed still up and -- clad in nurse's cap, fresh sunburn, black fishnets and a pair of pumps apparently borrowed from Judy of Garland -- greets me at the front door of her closet with a fresh bottle of duty-free scotch. (erm, I'll admit there might be a slight inaccuracy or three in the details, but there was definitely a bottle of scotch) Far too few hours of sleep later, I am greeted with the news that the third of our coming evening's party -- the one with the car -- has had to bow out due to work commitments. Reason #16 as to why I no longer work for The Man. A quick rental and we're off to Maine Avenue for Lunch. (Yes, capital "L". It must be understood that life's true priority is fresh seafood. No, really. There is nothing this Maryland-to-California transplant misses more about living on the Atlantic seaboard than it's far-superior-to-Pacific salt water treasures.) Raw oysters, raw clams, Maryland crab soup, peel-n-eat shrimp and a couple of soft-shell crabs; the world is suddenly right. "Suddenly" is perhaps a poor choice, for by now we're running late and Friday commute hour traffic stands between here and the Last Chance Saloon. Even if they're not still here we're planning on a quick pre-show sudsing, but it takes about 8 nanoseconds to identify KBP. This before even noticing Heather at the other end of the table or the back of a Roxy Music 2001 t-shirt. *whew* Made it! Next to KBP is Victor clad in '70s RM memorabilia, then Heather. To my right are the newlyweds John and Gina, down at the end opposite Heather is her friend Emma and, who's that tucked out of my line of sight next to her? -- good god, JO'B in the flesh. Ticketless too, until Colleen whips out the recently-spared 6th row seat, that is (too bad for KB, who would've been offered it... ). By the time our beers arrive most are settling up and ready to move out for the main event. Too bad... so much excitement in the air and all just so hectic that John (Gina's) and I never got past the starting point of our conversation, Victor was barely a quick exchange or two, and Heather and Emma were little more than a wave from down that other end of the table. KB stuck around for a few minutes while we worked on draining our glasses, then it was off to Merriweather. Rounding the second stage by the entrance, I make a bee-line for fellow high-school alum Linda Epstein and immediately challenge her claim of being 5'9". Some of the Last Chance suspects are there as well, but I'm so caught up with Linda and hubby (and the impending event, and the hand which is uncomfortably but only temporarily void of alcoholic beverage) for the next bit that I still managed to not quite really meet Heather and Emma. Or properly chat with anyone else. Apologies, truly, to any offended. Too much, too many, too little... Rufus' set ends and people make their way down to their seats. Colleen heads down to ours to further make JO'B's acquaintance, but has clearly been foiled in this maneuver, for I encounter him and Victor in my own wandering. Glancing at the set list in the lighting booth, we note no changes from the previous three. Oh well, it would've been nice. Down to the seats and we find the four right next to us empty. Even tastier are those empties next to Victor further down and towards center in the pit. Alas, that was not to be, but at least KB did get Row F with us after all. The lights dim, "South Downs" begins and I'm on the edge of my seat, hardly able to believe that after 18 years and 10 months it is once again Phil Manzanera I am staring at there behind the curtain. Somebody walks the length behind it, punching every few feet, then back up, running their hand along. "South Downs" goes on and on, and then... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 11:04:41 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: [AVALON] das Spiel geht weiter (part 2) But first, a digression. You see, I have a dirty little secret. Sparing details which would double the length of this post (incomprehensible, I know) suffice it to say it's been a bit of rough year. Distractions all around, no relaxation, days ending in pure exhaustion, no quality time with the audio equipment whatsoever. Buried in those details is a nasty eviction, both business and self -- the stereo was packed to move back in April. Over three months later and it now stands at the ready, but I still haven't hooked up the speakers. In other words (Ivor, you might want to sit down) I haven't listened to any music in months. NONE. As in, "n/p: nothing" day in, day out. No cheating in the car either, for it's been AM talk radio ever since the antenna shorted somewhere deep in the dash last year. Not even movie soundtracks. (Please note the difference between "hearing" and "listening to"... gangsta rap out of a passing car or house mix drifting over from a party down the street doesn't count. Likewise the excruciating barrage from the freakin' ice cream trucks here in my new town. It's simply not possible to participate in society without *hearing* music.) But the kicker? Even prior to the packing I hadn't listened to Roxy -- or Bryan, or Phil, etc. -- since the last time the calendar changed years. There are CDs and videos gathering dust downstairs; shrink-wrap still encases the Le Grand Rex DVD. At first it was a coincidence of events, then it became a choice. No music. 201+ days of Roxy-free living. There, I've admitted it. Question my sanity, my Avalonian credentials if you must. That doesn't change the fact that my aural celibacy ended with... well, no tinkling glasses, no party noises. But yes, Bryan's pounding chords. Phil. Now TGPT, finally Bryan's voice, and the rest of the band. Yet there was something wrong. And I don't mean merely the sound mix, which at that point was frankly horrible -- granted we were far stage right, hardly an ideal balance there in front of the left tower, but it was just plain muddy. It's that there were no goose bumps. The moment that should have been one of the musical highlights of my life was pure anti-climax. Had I built this so far up that it couldn't possibly meet expectations, or even anything near? "Certain quarters" may find fault with Colleen's review, given her earlier skepticism (though I assure there was not the slightest trace of anything but excitement on her part over the course of the day), but I speak with another voice, and this one must also pan the performance. Mind you, while I certainly took note of that at the time, there was nothing to stop us. I enjoyed myself throughout and thoroughly. Danced. Sang. Shouted "Pearl!" with KB -- a blessing she was there to help out -- at every opportunity. Really, the three of us (JO'B on the other side of Colleen, opposite direction from the stage, so can't account for him) gave it our all. If Bryan couldn't feed off the audience this time around, it was due to no fault of ours. A little confusion set in as Editions of You ended. It certainly looked and felt like a closer, and indeed it was, despite the printed set list we'd viewed. I think that's when the reality of the lesser performance began to really sink in. LITD has never done anything for me live, save the ATGB version... but then neither has DTS, yet here in 2001 it managed to bring me right back in and up for FYP. Back up on the concourse, Colleen and I surreptitiously shared our until-now private opinions. What was that? Where was Ferry? Aha, it wasn't just me, nor just her. KB is dartng from person to person wondering what they'd thought... could she be thinking the same? I simply couldn't bear to articulate all the impressions now replaying in my head. The incredibly haggard look of Bryan; Phil and Chris staring down, pacing and looking outright bored during one interlude; the transparency of Bryan's "enthusiasm" and his two-too-many bows before walking off; the crowd which gave TGPT relatively little send-off (4, maybe 5, on the clap-o-meter), etc. Not a chance -- it was her only show and it wasn't going to be me to take any shine off of it. There was also that most horrid of unshared thoughts... If this is what they've been like, then what the hell is wrong with all those Avalonians? A good time, sure, but lavish praise? Then JO'B answered the unposed question and allayed all the more disturbing concerns. Whether he'd been thinking along the same "keep my mouth shut" lines as I or not, I don't know, but nonetheless it was a relief to finally hear that somebody who would know ranked tonight as far at one end of the spectrum. Back southwards for a bite at Bethesda, Maryland's only 24x7 institution, Tastee Diner; another night of far too few hours to catch up on my week's lack of sleep, then off to Boston (with 15 minutes to spare, just enough for proper consumption of another pound of take-out steamed spiced shrimp, of course)... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:26:48 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! We'd never agree on a set list, by the time we had, there would be a new Roxy album in the can and they would be on tour again!. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Duncan Watkins To: Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! > what about the avalon list organising gig 50-yes seriously,if you could > choose the setlist and choose a dancing/non dancing seat how much would you > be prepared to pay?! > > duncan. > > > >From: "terrypaulrigz8c" > >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org > >To: > >CC: > >Subject: [AVALON] Here's in idea!!!!! > >Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 15:35:07 +0100 > > > >OK, so there is just one show to be booked, how about this. > >They should book a London Theatre of 4 nights. Doing their final concert ( > >maybe ever) in 4 stages. > >Set Lists: > >1st night: All songs from Roxy Music & FYP. Plus VP & Pyjamarama. > >2nd night: Stranded & Country Life. > >3rd night: Siren & Manifesto. including both versions of Angel Eyes. > >4th night: Flesh & Blood & Avalon, plus Jealous Guy. > >Now before you all throw up your hands and say its crazy I KNOW. > >BUT some of the piano based numbers could be done very simply, IE: 2HB, > >Beauty > >Queen, Just Like You, Tryptich, End of the Line, etc. > >If Bryan needed to rest his voice the band could do the b-sides, anyone for > >a > >Hula Kula! > >There could be official live CDs & DVDs of each night available through > >Expression. > >Don't you all think this is a brilliant idea in theory? > >If not very practical. > >Terry. > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >The subliminable footer says: > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 11:33:52 -0700 From: Julie Long Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's (emphasis here) PRIVATE life. Hi all -- I'm usually more than happy to lurk at this list but only want to throw some things into the soup at this point. 1. We wouldn't be here if we didn't love & support Bryan and Roxy Music. 2. We love and support them because they intrigue us, speak directly to us on many, many levels, and fascinate us. 3. It's only human to wonder about the objects of one's admiration, love, appreciation, etc, -- whatever you want to call it. Of course I wonder about the sexuality of a fascinating person, just as I wonder what that person's other preferances may be hard-wired, mutable, or non-committal. Come on -- they are a passionate artisitic entity. Bryan and Roxy fascinate by what they reveal as well as what they don't reveal. I think (hope) there's probably much less prejudice, or judgement, or bias against homosexuality, on this list than might appear. Is it possible what may be written in haste as a complete joke might be taken at face value because the intimacy of the list might not always be able to transcend the flatness of typescript on a screen? As time goes on I wonder exactly where private life begins and public life ends for artists. Respectfully, and no offence meant! Julie Stefan Thomsen wrote: > Come on. This is about their music. > This is getting out of hand. PRIVATE LIFE!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Southern" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 11:31 PM > Subject: [AVALON] Bryan's (emphasis here) PRIVATE life. > > > I'm getting a bit tired of this thread as well. I had written quite a long > > post here, but after re-reading it I think I'm just going to re-state > > Heather's superior wisdom. Bryan's private life is his own business. There > > is no room on this list for prejudices. The gay community is full of > > wonderful people. Promise. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 13:58:50 -0500 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: [AVALON] $6 CD's Hello Avalonians, That's right! Six bucks each plus shipping. These are from my personal collection, one time owner, all are in excellent condition. Email me off list if you are interested. Bye, Rod rlecloux@execpc.com ROXY MUSIC Roxy Music (Reprise 26039) Country Life (Reprise 26042 USA) Manifesto (Reprise 26046 USA) Avalon (WB/EG 23686 USA) BRYAN FERRY In Your Mind (Reprise 26085 USA) The Bride Stripped Bare (EG 821127 W. Germany) Boys And Girls (WB/EG 25082) BRIAN ENO Fractal Zoom-4 tracks (WB 40496 Germany) GEORGE HARRISON The Best Of (Capitol 46682 USA) JOHN LENNON John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band (Capitol 46770 USA) Legend-20 tracks (EMI 21954 USA) Imagine: Music from the Original Motion Picture (Capitol 90803 USA) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:08:02 -0700 From: "PeteK" Subject: [AVALON] 2 records? Seems like the Ferry/Stewart compositions have been put on the shelf. Perhaps they don't match the feel of what he plans to release after the tour. Hard to believe they won't surface at some point. Maybe he has enough material for 2 records now? Pure speculation....oh yeah, as for Ms. Hall, lets consider the source. She had a book to sell. Some soul less people will say anything for publicity and a few bucks. See you all at the Greek on Monday. Yannick too, how exciting. Running out of time. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:25:45 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: [AVALON] noch viele schoenstse... wiedersehen (part 3a) [hmm... try this last one again, in 2 pieces] A beautiful day and a couple of hours to spare meant more proper clock utilization -- this time with, er, the characterization and demographics of tank-tops. (That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Not my fault if no men were wearing tanks.) After settling in at some pretentious coffee shop and being informed by Ms. Boston Charm that they didn't serve anything as lowbrow as an actual cup of coffee, I decided my time was better spent leaving Ms. Matan to the company of her cappuccino for a bit. Upon locating a bottle of 17-yo Glengoyne (a medal-winning peatless scotch not often found in the US) in a nearby shop, my weekend's luggage was deemed complete, my mood restored and we headed to the harbor. The pixie-ish younger-than-the-contents-of-my-bottle hostesses working the outdoor section of Barking Crab had clearly attended the same congeniality training sessions as Ms. Coffee, refusing to give us a table or even take our name for one until our entire party was ready. That would be the party of indeterminate size arriving over some indeterminate period. Lovely. Fortunately the indoor team has clue. We'd barely planted ourselves at the bar with our opening round when JO'B pops up and tells us Reecey and the Chicagoans were already inside and indeed were already being served. "M" and boyfriend soon arrived and I informed the flat-rumped (well, I can only assume, since they never actually got off their flat-topped stools so that one might check) future coffee shop moguls that the party was here and we'd like a table. 15 minutes, I'm told. Okay, we're in the front corner, I reply. "I told you it'll be ready in like 15 minutes. Just come back yourselves." Standing around juggling drinks and half-eaten platters really didn't appeal, so I felt it only appropriate to fail to keep them updated when the indoor staff ended up accommodating us just fine. "Us": Chicagoans Andrew, Kurt, their local friend David and Reecey tucked away behind us at a 4-top. Colleen, "M" and boyfriend, Eileen and friend Gayle/Gail?, JO'B and myself at the larger. Hmm... I might be missing somebody. Then a quick hello from black-dressed Carla(?) and friend whose name I've definitely forgotten just as we're getting up to leave -- once again too bad, they seemed like nice lurkers. I suppose the preponderance of t-shirts rather than appropriate attire would've scared me off too. The important part: steamers, blackened tipalia (not technically an Atlantic fish, but probably farmed locally), Jonas crab (about all I can say for this local crustacean is now I've had one), more steamers, mussels. Strolling to the venue, David Martin and Andrew Shearer spot us from their car and meet up at the gate. Heather hasn't shown up by the time Rufus was wrapping it up, so we head in and off to our respective seats. NB: Better beer, lower prices. Our seats are much farther back this time, about four times the distance in Row Y. "South Downs", again no party sounds (I could be wrong, as I wasn't listening hard and my timing was all off due to the previous night's looooong intro), and they're off... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #340 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest