From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #329 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, July 25 2001 Volume 06 : Number 329 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Roxy cover album. [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] RE: Faces in the crowd ["Peter Seely" ] Re: [AVALON] Dancing ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] Robert Palmer? ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] Dancing [Heather James ] Re: [AVALON] RE: Faces in the crowd ["Peter Seely" ] Re: [AVALON] Dancing [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Dancing ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Dancing [KRNCHSE@aol.com] [AVALON] Re:folks in the UK [KRNCHSE@aol.com] [AVALON] to simon ["Niki H" ] [AVALON] Oh dear. [Rosalind Bull ] [AVALON] Re: WHAT WAS HER NAME? ["Linda Epstein" ] [AVALON] Surveillance. [Rosalind Bull ] Re: [AVALON] Oh dear. [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Robert Palmer? ["C. H. Soetemann" ] Re: [AVALON] Oh dear. ["C. H. Soetemann" ] [AVALON] Reviews of NY shows ["M. Taylor" ] RE: [AVALON] Oh dear. [Rosalind Bull ] Re: [AVALON] Robert Palmer? ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] NYC 2 A.M.-getting the 'Reeceys' ["M. Taylor" ] Re: [AVALON] Dancing [Aleks Kocan ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy album or no Roxy album. [Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy cover album. At 14.35 +0100 1-07-25, terrypaulrigz8c wrote: >Roxy Music are NOT a Covers band, look at the three civers they have done. It's actually four if you count Like A Hurricane. It's so warm that I am only wearing t-shirt and jeans, not the a-clothing. Still playing Robbie Williams Angels (great song) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:05:50 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Robert Palmer? At 14.22 +0100 1-07-25, Simon Galloway wrote: >I'm surprised that no one has brought up Robert Palmer in all this >Sylvian/Icehouse/Joe Bloggs debate. He used to be referred to as the "poor >man's Bryan Ferry", but this was mainly due to his smart image. I actually >dug out the Riptide album the other day but gave up after a couple of >tracks! Addicted To Love has been rather overplyed over the years. It was even in an episode of Beverly Hills 90210. >I do still like the Clues album though - Johnny And Mary, Looking For >Clues and his version of The Beatles' Not A Second Time are all great >tracks. As is The Power Station album. My favorite track with Robert Palmer is Mercy, Mercy Me, I Want You, one of the best Marvin Gaye covers ever. I own the Don't Explain CD only for that song. NP Robbie Williams Angels Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:31:47 -0400 From: "Peter Seely" Subject: [AVALON] RE: Faces in the crowd Chris was kind enough to run down in detail who everyone from the site was in the Faces in the Crowd section of the tour web page. But when I went to check it out, I couldn't find it. Does anyone know if "Faces in the Crowd" still exists? Pete ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:21:26 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dancing Now Now, whos an upset little boy now. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dancing > In a message dated 7/25/2001 9:44:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > terrypaulrigz8c@supanet.com writes: > > > > Get back in your box Grandad > > > > Fuck you. "....nurse!!! where's my medication!!!...!!!!!" > > john > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:19:34 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Robert Palmer? No, "I dream of wires"? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Galloway To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:22 PM Subject: [AVALON] Robert Palmer? > >>> Daniel Atterbom 07/25 1:54 pm >>> > > NP Robert Palmer. Mercy, Mercy Me, I Want You > > I'm surprised that no one has brought up Robert Palmer in all this Sylvian/Icehouse/Joe Bloggs debate. He used to be referred to as the "poor man's Bryan Ferry", but this was mainly due to his smart image. I actually dug out the Riptide album the other day but gave up after a couple of tracks! Addicted To Love has been rather overplyed over the years. > > I do still like the Clues album though - Johnny And Mary, Looking For Clues and his version of The Beatles' Not A Second Time are all great tracks. > > SimonG > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:28:13 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #326 >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:02:07 -0400 (EDT) >From: Colleen Matan >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? > >Why would VH-1 want Roxy? There's no dirt for _Behind the Music_ (and >frankly, I wouldn't want Roxy on that piece of crap show). And >_Storytellers_ (at least from what I know of it in my cableless existence) >is about people who can stand up and tell stories and play music. Not >Roxy's strong point. Besides, again I ask, why would VH-1 want Roxy? There's been no dirt for most of the recent Behind the Music shows -- they've reacted to their stereotype and cleaned up the "third act drugs disaster". As for why they'd "want" the band, I (foolishly and optimistically) think they'd like to get behind and play decent music once in a while. It's certainly the only cable outlet that does, which is why Virgin made sure VH-1 got the commercial for the Bry/Roxy video collection 2 years ago. Besides, your question seems inappropriate. I couldn't care less whether a channel, any channel, wants a product, any product, and find that an irrelevant concern. It's like asking whether "The Price is Right" wants Turtle Wax or Rice-a-Roni when all that matters (from the perspective of the people supporting the San Francisco Treat) is making sure Rice-a-Roni is advertised on as many outlets as possible. SFX wants the shows to sell out and the guys (presumably) want royalties from sale of the Best Of CD, therefore they find outlets to sell it. Sure, it's very likely VH-1's people may have said "I'm sorry, you aren't popular enough," but if you have a job to do, do it right. >But the thing is that there is nothing to be done. The band has already >been paid. SFX has already taken its profit. There's no record to flack, >so there is no record company to appease. You're overlooking the compilation. Just because it's a cheap way to make money doesn't mean it shouldn't be pushed a little bit harder to make more money. I don't think it's even charted in America. But wouldn't another gold record look nice in Bryan's den, and I bet it'd keep his kids in Eton another year. >If there is no commercial impetus, there's no publicity push. It costs >money to run those ads and make up those posters and create those promo >materials, and they wouldn't sell that many more tickets to make it >worthwhile. This isn't some hungry young band trying to make it or some >guys desperate to be on top again. This is a nice tour, not requiring too >much exertion, which pays well, after which everyone will go their >separate ways. Yes, and I admit I'm a dog crying selfishly out for bones, but Bry supposedly has a new album coming out next year, and I imagine he wants that to sell. Here's a great opportunity to begin the "good vibes" with American radio, TV and all the rest of the commerical tools since he'll be doing it next year anyway. When the new single comes out, I'd rather the music directors say "Yeah, that guy from that band with the huge summer tour last year with all the press" and not "Yeah, some old Ainglish guy." Bob Woffinden, in _The Beatles Apart_, makes an interesting argument about how the solo Beatles hurt their 1970s career by remaining so aloof and distant from not just radio, but their own labels, contrasting them with Mick Jagger. He tells an anecdote about how, when the Stones signed to a new US label in the early 70s, Jagger went to the company's New York offices and spent all day speaking to every single person in the building he could find, down to the lowest-paid copy boy or intern. He believed that when everyone in the company knows how accessible and friendly and helluvaguy you are, they'll make more of an effort to push your product. The same goes for radio and TV. Now admittedly, Bry's stuck on Virgin Records America, which is the single worst label in the USA for promotion. Nevertheless, the other media outlets are out there, and what an artist has to do if they want their product to reach consumers is sell it, constantly, and that's precisely what they didn't do. Maybe our desires are different, but Bry has stated many times that he's been frustrated by his lack of US success. I'd like him to have it. Grant Goggans comments welcome http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:33:58 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #327 >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:00:33 EDT >From: Chandla911@aol.com >Subject: [AVALON] Sexual antics >And this month Janet Jackson is talking to Maxim magazine about the >improvement to her sex life brought about by clitoral piercings. Thanks ever so much, Richard, for an image I never, ever wanted to have. >Oh dear, now I'm branded as the men's mag merchant. Well, I'm sure the Janet article was accompanied by lots of scantily-clad Maxim photos. Now you just need to obtain some Janet live shows and you can make the CDs! See, purely for research and your own art! Grant Goggans comments welcome http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:38:34 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Faces in the crowd It's still online, it's just the link that has been removed from the front page. Here's the direct link: http://www.manzanera.com/RoxyArchive/RoxyMusicTour2001/suspects.htm SimonG >>> "Peter Seely" 07/25 1:31 pm >>> Chris was kind enough to run down in detail who everyone from the site was in the Faces in the Crowd section of the tour web page. But when I went to check it out, I couldn't find it. Does anyone know if "Faces in the Crowd" still exists? Pete ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:46:02 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dancing I think Nigel just meant that with that damp British climate, folks in the UK tend to get stiff early ... (running and ducking ...) - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< KB Porter wrote: > Nigel wrote: "... considering the average age of fans, there is a good > chance > that a high percentage of them are suffering from rheumatism, arthritis, > lumbago, sciatica, calcium defficiency, back ache, brittle bones and the > like, and find it difficult to stand at the best of times..." > > Gee, Thanks Nigel. Now I feel REALLY bad!!! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:09:41 -0400 From: "Peter Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Faces in the crowd Thanks a lot, Simon and Chris. Pete - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Galloway" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: Faces in the crowd > It's still online, it's just the link that has been removed from the front page. Here's the direct link: http://www.manzanera.com/RoxyArchive/RoxyMusicTour2001/suspects.htm > > SimonG > > >>> "Peter Seely" 07/25 1:31 pm >>> > Chris was kind enough to run down in detail who everyone from the site was in > the Faces in the Crowd section of the tour web page. But when I went to check > it out, I couldn't find it. Does anyone know if "Faces in the Crowd" still > exists? > > Pete > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:05:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dancing On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Heather James wrote: > I think Nigel just meant that with that damp British climate, > folks in the UK tend to get stiff early ... I am going to be good. I am going to be good. I am going to be good. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 16:17:22 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dancing Nah, that's just Richard and his gentlemens magazines! ;-) SimonG >>> Heather James 07/25 3:46 pm >>> I think Nigel just meant that with that damp British climate, folks in the UK tend to get stiff early ... (running and ducking ...) - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:24:09 EDT From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dancing In a message dated 7/25/1 1:06:21 PM, you wrote: <> That will explain why the setlist has been modified to the new 90 minute showtime.I knew that we were expecting far too much to have Roxy standing every night for any longer,never mind actually putting some movement into thier performance.Fifty shows!Fifty nights,and Manzo doesn't even get the respite of a seat a an organ!I see Ferry has great difficulty with his one leg keyboard routine these days,and suspect that Tommo only agreed to come along for the ride 'cause he had a nicely sprung seat to rest his ageing derriere on. Give me a *#%#+*! break. Roxy Music are one of the most exciting bands to have ever emerged.Different music I realise conjures up different emotions in different people.What i don't get is how your geriatric ass can be glued to the seat when a band that hasn't performed together for eighteen some years come out on stage with a storming Re-Make Re-Model and apart from the requisite clap/cheers at the end of each song ,get (To me) seemingly very little back from the audience until they hear Jealous Guy?If these senior citizens are up there giving it there all(?)do we now just sit back and take,take,take all night ?I know New York is a tough town to crack,but the reception Ferry got at the Beacon last time around seemed far more generous than this show(imo)?Having had this rant,I must add that nearly everyone else I have spoken to disagrees with me?What a wonderful thing,this freedom of speech............. regards, DM well i'm drunk today,i'm 44 yrs old, and my sanity is fading................... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:38:28 EDT From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re:folks in the UK In a message dated 7/25/1 3:13:55 PM, you wrote: <> Maxim hits the newstands in London around 5 am. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:04:15 +0100 From: "Niki H" Subject: [AVALON] to simon dear simon,sometimes you are so funny,you really cheer me up(even more than colleen)thanks,Niki. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:06:43 +0100 From: Rosalind Bull Subject: [AVALON] Oh dear. "None of this sounded experimental in concert Monday, but back when punk was emerging and leftover psychedelic bands still roamed London, Roxy was unlike anything else in the record racks" NY Times review. Erm - when punk was emerging - 1972? Something tells me this review was written by someone not alive (or barely alive) in 1972. As someone who first saw RM in 1972, AND who witnessed the Pistols & the mastersly Clash (as well as many other laughable exponents e.g. The Damned) in 1976, let me tell you that they were worlds apart - WORLDS apart. The review is cack. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:06:57 -0400 From: "Linda Epstein" Subject: [AVALON] Re: WHAT WAS HER NAME? > From: Jads2@aol.com > > This being New York your lucky you didn't get hit > > john > Yes, I risked getting hit in DC, too. But hey- get closer seats to the stage next time. Linda ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:13:14 +0100 From: Rosalind Bull Subject: [AVALON] Surveillance. Okay, a question for (presumably) British listees. How many times a day are you checking to see if the fiftieth date has been added, and tickets have gone on sale? I'm up to four times a day - first thing in the morning, mid-morning, lunchtime and just before I go home from work (early evening). The tension is beginning to build ... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:35:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Oh dear. On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Rosalind Bull wrote: > "None of this sounded experimental in concert Monday, but back when > punk was emerging and leftover psychedelic bands still roamed London, > Roxy was unlike anything else in the record racks" NY Times review. > > Erm - when punk was emerging - 1972? Something tells me this review > was written by someone not alive (or barely alive) in 1972. > > As someone who first saw RM in 1972, AND who witnessed the Pistols & > the mastersly Clash (as well as many other laughable exponents e.g. > The Damned) in 1976, let me tell you that they were worlds apart - > WORLDS apart. > > The review is cack. I can't find the review on the _New York Times_ website to put the quote into context, but I can't see how it follows that it's "cack" since I don't believer the reviewer is equating Roxy with punk in any way. Musical/artistic/cultural movements don't spring fully formed from the head of Zeus, and it's not incorrect to trace the roots of punk back beyond the Sex Pistols or The Clash (just as the roots of the hippie generation can be traced back all the way to the late 1940s). However, I am not saying that I think the reviewer is saying Roxy inspired punk either (because I don't think s/he is). Colleen the historian (but still too young to have seen Roxy in 1972) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:00:46 +0000 From: "C. H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Robert Palmer? When in some MTV or VH-1 Palmer was supposed to comment on other artists' videos a few years ago, and the Slave To Love clip was being shown, he said - - as Ferry left the plane - "I don't like the ego stuff." A very pitiful and embarrassing comment when one considers Palmer's own videos. Though he's a competent musician, he seems to suffer from not being able to be as distinctive a figure as Bryan Ferry. Christian - ---------- >Von: "Simon Galloway" >An: avalon@smoe.org >Betreff: [AVALON] Robert Palmer? >Datum: Mit, 25. Jul 2001 13:22 Uhr > >>>> Daniel Atterbom 07/25 1:54 pm >>> >> NP Robert Palmer. Mercy, Mercy Me, I Want You > >I'm surprised that no one has brought up Robert Palmer in all this >Sylvian/Icehouse/Joe Bloggs debate. He used to be referred to as the "poor >man's Bryan Ferry", but this was mainly due to his smart image. I actually >dug out the Riptide album the other day but gave up after a couple of >tracks! Addicted To Love has been rather overplyed over the years. > >I do still like the Clues album though - Johnny And Mary, Looking For Clues >and his version of The Beatles' Not A Second Time are all great tracks. > >SimonG > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:01:36 +0000 From: "C. H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Oh dear. I hope I'm right when assuming Roxy were the by far more original, progressive, innovative, exciting act? I agree the reviewer is wrong as can be. Though, you can be born years after the band has been formed without making such pseudo-informed statements as this NY Times reviewer - it's probably to do with musical knowledge. If somebody came up to me and maintain the Sex Pistols had been more experimental than Roxy, I'd send him to KBP's "experimental dentist" Neil Jones (who happens to be on this list: hi Neil, get those drills out!) to have a few teeth removed and... OK, OK, I'll stop it. Christian - ---------- >Von: Rosalind Bull >An: "'avalon@smoe.org'" >Betreff: [AVALON] Oh dear. >Datum: Mit, 25. Jul 2001 16:06 Uhr > >"None of this sounded experimental in concert Monday, but back when punk was >emerging and leftover psychedelic bands still roamed London, Roxy was unlike >anything else in the record racks" NY Times review. > >Erm - when punk was emerging - 1972? Something tells me this review was >written by someone not alive (or barely alive) in 1972. > >As someone who first saw RM in 1972, AND who witnessed the Pistols & the >mastersly Clash (as well as many other laughable exponents e.g. The Damned) >in 1976, let me tell you that they were worlds apart - WORLDS apart. > >The review is cack. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:00:59 +0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: [AVALON] Reviews of NY shows A pretty negative review in the Daily News: http://www.nydailynews.com/2001-07-25/New_York_Now/Music/a-119406.asp From the NY Post: http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/35841.htm M _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:06:58 +0100 From: Rosalind Bull Subject: RE: [AVALON] Oh dear. "I can't find the review on the _New York Times_ website to put the quote into context, but I can't see how it follows that it's "cack" since I don't believer the reviewer is equating Roxy with punk in any way. Musical/artistic/cultural movements don't spring fully formed from the head of Zeus, and it's not incorrect to trace the roots of punk back beyond the Sex Pistols or The Clash (just as the roots of the hippie generation can be traced back all the way to the late 1940s). However, I am not saying that I think the reviewer is saying Roxy inspired punk either (because I don't think s/he is)." No, I don't think that the reviewer is suggesting that RM directly inspired punk either. It is fairly well documented that punk more than any other movement up to that time, was a fabrication, a manipulation, a reaction to rather than progression of much of what had gone directly before. I think the reviewer is stating the obvious in a not-particularly intelligent way. Purely subjective. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:28:45 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Robert Palmer? Too much bandwagon jumping too. World music , electro-pop, metal-lite, blue-eyed soul, white-boy reggae, be-suited lounge bar crooning... Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. H. Soetemann" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Robert Palmer? > When in some MTV or VH-1 Palmer was supposed to comment on other artists' > videos a few years ago, and the Slave To Love clip was being shown, he said > - as Ferry left the plane - "I don't like the ego stuff." A very pitiful and > embarrassing comment when one considers Palmer's own videos. Though he's a > competent musician, he seems to suffer from not being able to be as > distinctive a figure as Bryan Ferry. > > Christian > > ---------- > >Von: "Simon Galloway" > >An: avalon@smoe.org > >Betreff: [AVALON] Robert Palmer? > >Datum: Mit, 25. Jul 2001 13:22 Uhr > > > > >>>> Daniel Atterbom 07/25 1:54 pm >>> > >> NP Robert Palmer. Mercy, Mercy Me, I Want You > > > >I'm surprised that no one has brought up Robert Palmer in all this > >Sylvian/Icehouse/Joe Bloggs debate. He used to be referred to as the "poor > >man's Bryan Ferry", but this was mainly due to his smart image. I actually > >dug out the Riptide album the other day but gave up after a couple of > >tracks! Addicted To Love has been rather overplyed over the years. > > > >I do still like the Clues album though - Johnny And Mary, Looking For Clues > >and his version of The Beatles' Not A Second Time are all great tracks. > > > >SimonG > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > >The subliminable footer says: > >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > >unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:38:37 +0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: Re: [AVALON] NYC 2 A.M.-getting the 'Reeceys' >It's 2 am....24 hours ago I was in a bar in Manhattan.I was high as a >kite.Euphoria and Corona fuelled my brain.I was singing , dancing,and That was a crazy night. Last night was more subdued but the bar let us put on Siren. Celeb spotting at the Tuesday show: Sofia Coppola! DM- Thanks for your comments about my outfits! I had a "stalker" last night. A guy came up to me and said that he saw me Monday night as well and loved the outfits. Ok. Then I saw him in the lobby staring at me. Ok. Then he was at the bar afterwards (he and his friends were there before us) and he approached me again, offering to buy my friend and I drinks. Errrr, no thanks. I'm not one for writing concert reviews so maybe someone else (Alan?) will write them up. I was so excited that they played "Mother of Pearl" both nights - made my day. =) Both nights were great but I preferred Monday night's show. Comment: There was a lot of pot-smoking last night in my section. Plus it was different people smoking pot so it was non-stop. During "Both Ends Burning," my friend and I ran up the aisle, got kicked back to our seats and then went back and made it up to the second row. Anyway, we didn't have to smell the pot anymore. It was wonderful meeting everyone (Sorry if I mispell your name or omit you): Eileen, Andrew S., DM, David N., Alan C., John D., Reecey, John O.B., Jocelyn, Therese and her brother, Don B...... Am I missing anyone? We met a lurker from the list last night - David T. - you should post once in awhile! M _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:12:31 +0100 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dancing totally agree with you dm, lets save the sitting down for the 2021 tour or watching the video at home!anyway the band appreciate it,they play much better when everybody's up on their feet,as bryan said in glasgow "don't mind these people....." regards, duncan (-_-) >From: KRNCHSE@AOL.COM >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dancing >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:24:09 EDT > >In a message dated 7/25/1 1:06:21 PM, you wrote: > ><understand that considering the average age of fans, there is a good chance >that a high percentage of them are suffering from rheumatism, arthritis, >lumbago, sciatica, calcium defficiency, back ache, brittle bones and the >like, >and find it difficult to stand at the best of times..............>> > >That will explain why the setlist has been modified to the new 90 minute >showtime.I knew that we were expecting far too much to have Roxy standing >every night for any longer,never mind actually putting some movement into >thier performance.Fifty shows!Fifty nights,and Manzo doesn't even get the >respite of a seat a an organ!I see Ferry has great difficulty with his one >leg keyboard routine these days,and suspect that Tommo only agreed to come >along for the ride 'cause he had a nicely sprung seat to rest his ageing >derriere on. > Give me a *#%#+*! break. Roxy Music are one of the most exciting bands >to >have ever emerged.Different music I realise conjures up different emotions >in >different people.What i don't get is how your geriatric ass can be glued to >the seat when a band that hasn't performed together for eighteen some years >come out on stage with a storming Re-Make Re-Model and apart from the >requisite clap/cheers at the end of each song ,get (To me) seemingly very >little back from the audience until they hear Jealous Guy?If these senior >citizens are up there giving it there all(?)do we now just sit back and >take,take,take all night ?I know New York is a tough town to crack,but the >reception Ferry got at the Beacon last time around seemed far more generous >than this show(imo)?Having had this rant,I must add that nearly everyone >else >I have spoken to disagrees with me?What a wonderful thing,this freedom of >speech............. > >regards, > > DM >well i'm drunk today,i'm 44 yrs old, and my sanity is >fading................... > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:28:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dancing - --- Nigel Hollis wrote: > . Also, these > (dancing) people should > understand that considering the average age of fans, > there is a good chance > that a high percentage of them are suffering from > brittle bones and the like, > and find it difficult to stand at the best of > times.............. Aha... I was wondering why i broke my arm a couple of weeks ago...now I know....thanks for that... Aleks, the one-handed typist and Roxy fan (an elderly 36 years old..) Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:37:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy album or no Roxy album. - --- "thom.wallace" wrote: > > We might have a livealbum, but no new studio > album. > Nobody would love to see a new album more than I, >...I feel will make it an unlikely > prospect, let's all hope > that I'm wrong on this one. I didn't think that I'd see a Roxy reunion, but it's happened. This tour is should prove to be a commercial success for Roxy, however, a new album is a completely different proposition commercially. I really don't thinks it's going to happen (as much as I'd like it to) - but who knows? Aleks Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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