From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #318 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, July 20 2001 Volume 06 : Number 318 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Roxy Lottery ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] setlist, length, hack schmack, [Jads2@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] NEW CD TREE - Manchester 2001 ["Heather James" ] Re: [AVALON] DVD or Video ["S Clarke" ] [AVALON] W magazine ["M. Taylor" ] Re: [AVALON] DVD or Video ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] calling the great David Firmin (?) [David Firmin ] [AVALON] 500 Up! ["Chris Turner" ] RE: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? [Rick ] Re: [AVALON] Re: 90 mins.? [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] W magazine AND MORE! ["Theresa Fagan" ] Re: [AVALON] more gigs announced [EJDalseme@aol.com] [AVALON] Contain your cheers [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] OZ [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] More UK Roxy dates [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Classic(al) Eno review [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Original Springsteen Analogy/90 minutes ["Rod LeCloux" ] [AVALON] Manchester gig???? ["anotherphotographer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Lottery On 19 Jul 2001, at 13:13, Simon Galloway wrote: > Ah! They should try something that Del Amitri did on tour a few years ago. > Halfway through the set they wheeled on a lottery machine, the numbers on > the balls corresponded with songs in their repertoire, and whichever > number was chosen (at random) they then performed that song. > Elvis Costello has done this in the past, certainly back in 1987 in a series of concerts at the Royalty Theatre (I think). He used a wheel of fortune type thing, though not the night I went. David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:50:19 EDT From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] setlist, length, hack schmack, In a message dated 7/19/2001 2:40:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, aleks50@yahoo.com writes: > Having said that I would have thought > that the audience would have enough brains to not > cheer etc during the songs anyway as it was an > acoustic set. You're giving people too much credit. I once went to see the Beach Boys and there were people standing cheering during "In My Room". When I saw Springsteen this past reunion tour (this was strictly a "wife wants to go" show-the last time I saw Springsteen was at the Bottom Line right before Born to Run)-I was glad to hear him tell people to sit down. But he did this after the first acoustic song when he saw that many many people were still standing. You see-they didn't know any better-it was like leading mental patients back to their chairs. john ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:47:03 -0400 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] NEW CD TREE - Manchester 2001 The cover-art is now online - tho I am not part of this tree ... and don't have a copy of the Discs http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/a-list.html -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ MCC MidAtlantic District: http://www.mcc-midatl.org Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Simon Galloway > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:50 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] NEW CD TREE - Manchester 2001 > > > You may recall a couple of weeks ago that Ole-Petter offered a > recording of the recent Manchester show to be cd tree'd? Well, > it's happened! > > With no audible evidence of Ferry's supposed bad throat, it's a > complete audience recording of a powerful show. Obviously it > doesn't match the sound quality of the BBC broadcast of the > Glasgow SECC show, but it's a clear, very listenable and > enjoyable recording nonetheless. Entitled KISS THE PAST > GOODNIGHT, the track list follows: > > Re-make/Re-model, Street Life, Ladytron, While My Heart Is Still > Beating, Out Of The Blue, A Song For Europe, My Only Love, Oh > Yeah, Both Ends Burning, Tara, In Every Dreamhome A Heartache, > Mother Of Pearl, Jealous Guy, Editions Of You, Virginia Plain, > Love Is The Drug, Do The Strand, For Your Pleasure. > > Plus there are some extra tracks - If There Is Something and More > Than This (from Birmingham NEC) and Avalon (from Newcastle). > There's also a recent interview with Bryan, Andy and Phil from > BBC Radio North, questions were submitted by email from fans > across the world and is probably the best interview I've heard > from this tour so far. > > You can order from the following people: > > UK > Richard Mills Chandla911@aol.com > David Squires ManCDTree@squires.nildram.co.uk > Mike Ferguson mikeandcarole@ferguson237.fsnet.co.uk > > EUROPE > Daniel Atterbom daniel.atterbom@odata.se > > USA > Judy Kaufman jlbk01im@hotmail.com > > The person you contact will advise you on the best method of how > to obtain this 2 cd set. And if you want to help out, especially > in the USA and Europe then contact Judy or Daniel and let them > know. Please do not reply to this email on the list or to myself > as I am unable to deal with orders for this tree, I am merely > announcing it. > > And just to remind you that as ever, Avalon cd tree's are > strictly NON-PROFIT - by fans for fans. > > Enjoy! > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:49:50 -0800 From: Karen Roth Subject: [AVALON] calling all the great Davids on the list Thanks Chris, this website is really helpful. Can't wait. Karen -----Original Message----- From: Chris Turner [mailto:roxyrama@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:43 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] calling the great David Firmin (?) Hi Karen, It's David Squires site at: http://www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html Regards Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:26:48 +0100 From: "MIKE HALLETT" Subject: Re: [AVALON] DVD or Video Ref the info below - does anyone know if it is at all possible to obtain a copy of the " A Perfumed Sigh " video??? The content looks excellent. Mike - ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Turner To: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] DVD or Video > There's a full list of the available videos here: > > http://www.roxyrama.com/miscellany/videoidx-frameset.html > > Chris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane Fraser" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 10:35 AM > Subject: [AVALON] DVD or Video > > > > I9ve only just joined the list so if this is an old or recurring > question - > > sorry. > > > > Having caught Roxy twice on MTV last night (glimpse of Pyjarama - Bryan in > > more make-up than I9ve ever worn in my life! - and Virginia Plain) I am > keen > > to get hold of some sort of compilation DVD or Video of the boys over the > > years. Nothing on BBC Videos as far as I can see so, rather than waste > any > > more time, I thought I9d ask you guys if such a thing exists and if not, > why > > not? > > > > Having been a huge fan in the 70s I drifted away but since Wembley I don9t > > think obsessed is too strong a word to describe my state of mind at the > > moment. I am going to Rotterdam and would love to go to Vienna cos it9s > my > > birthday too. > > > > Jane > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:00:37 +1000 From: "S Clarke" Subject: Re: [AVALON] DVD or Video Hello Avalonians A question. I have a 60-minute Granada Video entitled 'Roxy Music - On the Road Live'. It has no date but claims to be 'filmed before a packed house in Manchester's Apollo Theatre'. Paul Thompson is still present. Gary Tibbs and Dave Skinner are credited on the cover as being members of Roxy Music. The set list includes 'Price of Love, Europe (sic), Still Falls the Rain, Virginia Plain, MOP, Ain't That So, LITD'. I'm sure someone knows the date of this concert. Please let me know. Thanks, Shelley - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Turner" To: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] DVD or Video > There's a full list of the available videos here: > > http://www.roxyrama.com/miscellany/videoidx-frameset.html > > Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:14:38 +0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: [AVALON] W magazine I'm suffering from flowing inboxes so I don't know if anyone has mentioned that there is a two page article with BF in the latest issue of W magazine. M _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 01:32:42 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] DVD or Video Probably either the 6th or 7th of May 1979. There were Manchester gigs on both nights Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Clarke" To: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] DVD or Video > Hello Avalonians > > A question. > > I have a 60-minute Granada Video entitled 'Roxy Music - On the Road Live'. > > It has no date but claims to be 'filmed before a packed house in > Manchester's Apollo Theatre'. > > Paul Thompson is still present. Gary Tibbs and Dave Skinner are credited on > the cover as being members of Roxy Music. The set list includes 'Price of > Love, Europe (sic), Still Falls the Rain, Virginia Plain, MOP, Ain't That > So, LITD'. > > I'm sure someone knows the date of this concert. Please let me know. > > Thanks, > > Shelley ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:38:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] calling the great David Firmin (?) Bill MacCormick reports that according to Pollstar, another date has been fixed for the Manchester Evening News Arena on Friday 28th September and one at the SECC Glasgow the following day according to Ticketmaster. You lucky bastards :) *** Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 02:55:59 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] New member profile. Hi, I've added a new profile to the Avalon site at www.roxytalk.co.uk Say hello to Milwaukee's finest - Paul Bodine! If any one else would like their profile added, just drop me a line at webmaster@roxytalk.co.uk with the details you would like there, and maybe even a picture - I'll do the rest. If you're not sure how to structure your profile, just have a look at some of the existing profiles for inspiration. Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 03:27:14 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] 500 Up! We now have passed the 500 member mark. We had 250 in Summer 1999 and 330 last October. Roxyrama passed 100,000 visitors in under 13 months yesterday. Statto ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 22:40:02 -0400 From: Rick Subject: RE: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? Does anyone happen to have a copy of the WBCN broadcast from 1976 and are willing to $hare it ? - -----Original Message----- From: tmoq [SMTP:tmoq@pipeline.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 6:01 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? - -----Original Message----- From: Alan Carl To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? >Grant,excellent points! I saw vans from 3 radio stations last night,but one >on them,from WFNX,wouldn't play Roxy-they play teenage boy music: >Staind,Eminem,etc.The other 2 might play something from later Roxy,but I >haven't heard of any ticket give aways except one through a local >newspaper,The Boston Globe. Just curious, was WBCN one of the radio station vans? Their live broadcast of Roxy`s '76 Boston show was done without the band`s approval and Ferry mentions it towards the end of the show. This again happened in Hempstead, NY.....maybe others? These broadcast never resulted in massive bootlegs, but the '75 NY/London and '76 Stockholm broadcast did. Perhaps it`s the band that`s being stand-offish with radio stations(?). Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:57:09 +1000 From: "S Clarke" Subject: Re: [AVALON] DVD or Video Thanks Chris What a prompt and knowledgeable reply! Shelley > Probably either the 6th or 7th of May 1979. There were Manchester gigs on > both nights > >a 60-minute Granada Video entitled 'Roxy Music - On the Road Live'. > > It has no date but claims to be 'filmed before a packed house in > > Manchester's Apollo Theatre'. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:16:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: 90 mins.? Hold on to your hats, because I'm about to agree with Marlana. But first, because William got to most of the points I would have made if I hadn't been stranded on an island at the time, let me first say that the issue isn't that Americans pay more so we get a longer show. On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, M.M.K. wrote: > Thom say's,----" Why would there suddenly be an extension to the set > time just because they're in the US?"-------Extension,Extension,you say? > A 90 min. gig is by no means an extension. We've had to wait quite a > while to see & hear what has been a dream for many, to have Roxy here. > We have to travel quite a distant when the band is not even coming to > some areas, just to see this dream come true. I don't think it's asking > to much to just make the show's as long as they were in the Uk & other > places. The ATGB tour was the last time Ferry was here. Is it any wonder > we American's are just a little bit hyped up, the waiting has been far > to long. Not only that, I think the American (and Canadian) fans get extremely short shrift. It's not like Roxy turned/turns up on TV or radio or in print all the time for us. We've actually have have put a lot of work in to being fans, into seeking out boots and videos (prior to the work of the generous folks on this list, that is). Even now there are folks who are travelling huge distances to see Roxy. And even more for whom a journey of 1000+ miles just isn't feasible. It's easy to be a fan when everything is right there for the taking. And it's not like all American fans only know _Avalon_ and that's all they want to hear. So of course when the crap songs take the place of the more interesting ones we're going to complain--that's not the Roxy we like. Furthermore to the point, on the bulletin board on manzanera.com Bill M. hinted very broadly that that set list for North America might indeed add in a few of the songs which were cut and also that there might be a section which changed every night. If this doesn't come to pass after all, I for one am going to be very disappointed in the band, even as I am looking forward very much to the shows I'm going to see. I would also add that I don't understand why a fellow fan and a fellow member of this online group (I won't say "community" as I don't want to alarm David Squires) can't understand why someone might be disappointed to find the setlists have been qualitatively and quantitatively diminished. Except in this case when you consider the source, the answer is evident. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:14:47 -0400 From: "Theresa Fagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] W magazine AND MORE! Another brain freeze? How about the current Uncut magazine triple play: long article about Roxy Music, Bryan's and Phil's comments on a few of the 50 fave Beatles' songs (they were on the panel) and 801's TNK (Tomorrow Never Knows) on a Beatles' covers (24 of 'em) version CD included (I got a George on my magazine cover -- collect all four!). - --TriTri PS two magazines used to cost a dollar -- these two came to $12.50 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Taylor" | I'm suffering from flowing inboxes so I don't know if anyone has mentioned | that there is a two page article with BF in the latest issue of W magazine. | | M | ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:37:01 EDT From: EJDalseme@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] more gigs announced Hi, according to ticketmaster UK there is to be another gig in Manchester and Glasgow. 28th and 29th September respectively. http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/cgi/asp_events/perfname.asp?searchname=Roxy_Musi c&vaxname=UK2&venuenum=384&category=MUSIC ems ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:37:36 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Contain your cheers On last night's Panorama (UK BBC TV documentary) about the jailing (4 years!) of Lord Jeffrey Archer for perjury (no, it really isn't funny or an about-time comeuppance, it really isn't - LOL), the sound editor was obviously a BF fan. As well as Tainted Love by Soft Cell and Temptation by Heaven 17, s/he slipped in Let's Stick Together, The Price Of Love and Slave To Love as foreground music to accompany film clips of our illustrious fiction writer/philanderer. Amazingly, I didn't notice them using Casanova... Must stop laughing... Richard n/p Pleased To Meet You - James ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:52:04 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] OZ Shelley (+ whoever) Maybe you might want to volunteer for CD Tree duties in Australia? If no-one else offers to do so and you are not able, I can send you a copy. Get in touch with me off list if no-one (or you) steps forward over the next few days... Richard ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:33:53 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] More UK Roxy dates www.bigmouth.com is now promoting/selling tickets for two new UK dates in September 28TH SEPTEMBER - EVENING NEWS ARENA - MANCHESTER 29TH SEPTEMBER - S.E.C.C. - GLASGOW www.roxyrama.com also lists them so I guess they are official ;-) This appears to leave one date left before they make that 50 figure - is a final London show too much for this cockney sparrer to hope for? Or Birmingham? Or Luton? Richard PS Sadly this blows my fantasy of seeing Vienna for the final show on the tour out of the water... n/p Pleased To Meet You - James ("The Shining" is to die for - unwitting Stephen King reference) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 00:39:41 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Classic(al) Eno review CLASSIC REVIEW Brian Eno: Ambient 1: Music for Airports No Eno album is more iconic than this 1979 release, which has even been rearranged in its entirety for live performance (and then recorded) by the classical avant-garde Bang on a Can Ensemble. FULL STORY: http://cdw01.cdnow.com/Click?q=78-d5_sIdUgHxvdWIy3viwZ-qky Richard n/p Pleased to Meet You - James (this is getting like subliminal water torture hype, isn't it?) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:53:13 -0500 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: [AVALON] Original Springsteen Analogy/90 minutes Well, it's been fun seeing all the tangents everyone went off on when I started this whole thing about the shorter set in the U.S. Let me add some additional comments to my original post. I may have had a knee jerk reaction to the shorter set list for several reasons. Firstly, acts of this magnitued(huge back catalog) generally play closer to 2 hours in the states and that's what my expectations came from. I'm no expert on Roxy's concerts length's but if they are closer to 90minutes then so be it. In fact 90 minutes is great if you are in a small stinky hot bar, but that's not the case here. Current venues are much nicer with assigned seating and usually No smoking in theaters... I suspect their shorter sets worked wonderfully in the early part of their career, but they are already established artists with a large choice of great material to choose from. But, lets face it. This is a nostalgia tour no matter how you dice it. Or you could call it a tour to promote their just released "hits" CD. Anyways, I feel a 2 hour show would not be over staying their welcome and would not include any filler. So, in conclusion, when I see a Ticket Bastard bill for close to $200 on my chargecard and a 6 1/2 hour drive a head of me to see the show I felt I needed a 2 hour show in return... Now, wouldn't it have been funny if I used Elton instead of Bruce in my original email. In fact, feel free to switch names, then Martino can get in on the action and take a long over due swipe at Elton. Also, has anyone heard the new Elton song "American Triangle" that he does with Rufus Wainright? Peace, Rod ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 23:16:18 -0400 From: "Peter Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: 90 mins.? Colleen, Here here! If you do got to manzanera.com, you very much get the impression that McCormick and company want us to pay our money and shut up. There were some very civil discussions on his website that were constantly met with sarcastic comments and snide remarks. Speaking as a person who is shelling out major bucks to travel and see three shows, I think I have a right to make my opinion known. My 2 additional ticket purchases were made precisely because of the setlists from England. It galls me that a song like "Mother of Pearl" was dropped in favor of "Dance Away," simply because it reached number 44 on the charts. They didn't even play it on the Manifesto tour! I happen to like later Roxy, though not nearly as much as the earlier stuff. But I am somewhat alarmed by the arrogance of some of the people speaking for the Roxy organization. With outrageous ticket prices, outrageous souvenier prices, and web sites giving unprecedented opportunities for people to speak their minds, I don't think it's wise to say, in so many words, "shut up and like it." Pete - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: 90 mins.? > Hold on to your hats, because I'm about to agree with Marlana. > > But first, because William got to most of the points I would have made if > I hadn't been stranded on an island at the time, let me first say that the > issue isn't that Americans pay more so we get a longer show. > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, M.M.K. wrote: > > > Thom say's,----" Why would there suddenly be an extension to the set > > time just because they're in the US?"-------Extension,Extension,you say? > > A 90 min. gig is by no means an extension. We've had to wait quite a > > while to see & hear what has been a dream for many, to have Roxy here. > > We have to travel quite a distant when the band is not even coming to > > some areas, just to see this dream come true. I don't think it's asking > > to much to just make the show's as long as they were in the Uk & other > > places. The ATGB tour was the last time Ferry was here. Is it any wonder > > we American's are just a little bit hyped up, the waiting has been far > > to long. > > Not only that, I think the American (and Canadian) fans get extremely > short shrift. It's not like Roxy turned/turns up on TV or radio or in > print all the time for us. We've actually have have put a lot of work in > to being fans, into seeking out boots and videos (prior to the work of the > generous folks on this list, that is). Even now there are folks who are > travelling huge distances to see Roxy. And even more for whom a journey > of 1000+ miles just isn't feasible. It's easy to be a fan when everything > is right there for the taking. > > And it's not like all American fans only know _Avalon_ and that's all they > want to hear. So of course when the crap songs take the place of the > more interesting ones we're going to complain--that's not the Roxy we > like. > > Furthermore to the point, on the bulletin board on manzanera.com Bill M. > hinted very broadly that that set list for North America might indeed add > in a few of the songs which were cut and also that there might be a > section which changed every night. If this doesn't come to pass after > all, I for one am going to be very disappointed in the band, even as I am > looking forward very much to the shows I'm going to see. > > I would also add that I don't understand why a fellow fan and a fellow > member of this online group (I won't say "community" as I don't want to > alarm David Squires) can't understand why someone might be disappointed to > find the setlists have been qualitatively and quantitatively diminished. > > Except in this case when you consider the source, the answer is evident. > > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 18:34:18 +0100 From: "anotherphotographer" Subject: [AVALON] Manchester gig???? IT MAY BE A WIND UP !!! Tickets go on sale tomorrow friday 20th july For fri 28th sept men arena!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 01:21:12 -0500 From: jas2347@speedsite.com Subject: [AVALON] Attention Chicago Fans-This is News! ATTENTION CHICAGO AVALONIANS: I just got the notice below. I know we ALL will be listening AND calling in with our opinions. This is a good show and I'm and elated that they chose our heores as the topic for discussion. For those outside of Chicago, these two guys are the leading rock critics in Chicago and very influential. I've often called up to added my two cents to the topics that they have presented. This show will be a chance for the Chicago fans to get our our feelings/rapture. I will point out how SFX screwed up the promotion of the concert and the choice of venue!!! Add to that the existence of AVALON!!! If you want to call that night the number is (773)777-8881. This is just too great. The excitement is building up here. Let's burn up the lines that night!!! Jas WXRT (93.1) TUESDAY on SOUND OPINIONS (10pm-12Midnight), hosts Greg Kot of the Chicago Tribune and Jim DeRogatis of the Sun-Times talk about ROXY MUSIC: the band's historic significance and influence, and why this is one reunion tour Jim and Greg are actually looking forward to. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 01:21:33 -0500 From: jas2347@speedsite.com Subject: [AVALON] Dressing up Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 03:54:13 EDT From: Etherealana@cs.com Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Fashion Statement.. I know we have talked about this in the past, but please my fellow avalonians I do not want to be the only one in my Roxy mode fashion statement. Please join me . And yes I know it is about the music, but what do you say and we have a little fun, and show the guys that us old geezers have a lot of spunk left!! Ana I agree Ana. This is the last time ( for America I think) and we have waited a long time. It would be a tribute to them and I'm sure they'd appreciate it. Retro or modern? I'm not sure yet. Jas ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #318 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest