From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #316 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, July 19 2001 Volume 06 : Number 316 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] concert lengths [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Re: Is RoXy Really in America [MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.)] Re: [AVALON] Videos/Rufus Wainright [AMeyersLD@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Boston Show ["Alan Carl" ] Re: [AVALON] setlist, length, hack schmack, hits?, and bloody tapes [Mile] Re: [AVALON] setlist, length, hack schmack, hits?, and bloody tapes [Will] Re: [AVALON] [Avalon]Tour dates ["Tracy Connell" ] Re: [AVALON] South Downs on tour [Jads2@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? ["Alan Carl" ] [AVALON] Bry vs. Bruce ["martin parker" ] [AVALON] Do you have a spare ticket for Merriweather? ["Heather James" ] Re: [AVALON] 90 min., Roxy in America, and miscellaneous ["Judy Kaufman" ] Re: [AVALON] Bry vs. Bruce ["Theresa Fagan" ] Re: [AVALON] Philadelphia Help ! [Bobbyoz ] Re: [AVALON] Philadelphia Help ! [Bobbyoz ] Re: [AVALON] 90 min., Roxy in America, and miscellaneous [AMeyersLD@aol.c] Re: [AVALON] Bry vs. Bruce [Artman1@aol.com] [AVALON] Re: Scorpio women [JDLJ1808@aol.com] [AVALON] Oh... No Promos? [jas2347@speedsite.com] Re: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? ["Strimples" ] [AVALON] When you were young [jas2347@speedsite.com] Re: [AVALON] South Downs on tour [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Bry vs. Bruce ["Judy Kaufman" ] [AVALON] Roxy Fashion Statement.. [Etherealana@cs.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:35:10 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] concert lengths At 17.15 +1000 1-07-18, S Clarke wrote: >I once saw Nico walk onto the stage, start an argument with a guy down the >front of the audience and then leave in a huff, never to return. > >My guesstimate of time on stage? About five minutes. > >I don't think she was very 'well'. I saw her do att full show in Stockholm just before she died and no she was not well then either. Springsteen is fine playing for hours. If you like him, you go and see him. I think yhat the setlist will change when Roxy retirns to Europe. NP Right On, Marvin Gaye live in 1972--from the 30th anniversary edition of the masterpiece What's Going On, one of the best American records ever Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:50:33 -0500 (CDT) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Is RoXy Really in America Grant. makes some very good points. The reason I found this website was because I'd read where Ferry was promoting his ATGB CD with a tour. Hell, by the time I read it in my paper & went on line to get tickets of where & when. The tour here in US was over & he was back in Europe.THere isn't enough information given the fans here, & that does fall upon Ferry. If you want to be a hit at concerts then get the advertisement out to all the public. Ferry's fans in Ameica have for the most part had to find out for themselves what is out there. True fans I'd say, when you really!!!!!! really!!!! have to hunt for everthing. Marlana................................. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:09:18 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Videos/Rufus Wainright In a message dated 7/18/01 7:49:27 AM, SIMONG@jazzfm.com writes: << At long last the Strandpower Videos have arrived, and they are glorious! > Thanks to Reecey and all concerned. Come on! I was expecting a big review! >> Not until I have seen them all the way through....which will have to wait until after Boston. Three days to go! Andrew in Chicago (ticket in hand) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:20:29 -0400 From: "Alan Carl" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boston Show Yes,I think the article you are referring to can be found on vivaroxymusic. go here: http://www.vivaroxymusic.com/reviews_20010715b.shtml As for a review of Tuesday's show,it probably won't appear until Thursday in the Boston Globe.Paper has an early deadline. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleks Kocan" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:30 PM Subject: [AVALON] Boston Show > Read on another newsgroup that apparently Ferry was > having trouble in picking the set-list (The Boston > Globe was alledgedly the newspaper). > > Did anyone read anything in the Boston Globe about > this? Anyone know what was actually quoted by Ferry? > > Just wondering if he was having trouble in deciding to > go for the 90 minute show or the full "3 hour hack > version" (only joking....) > > Aleks, Manchester UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:33:32 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [AVALON] setlist, length, hack schmack, hits?, and bloody tapes Two quickies - Me, then Jads2@aol.com wrote: ><< I would have paid $100 to see them do "Mother of > Pearl" and nothing else. >> > > >Easy there-let's not get carried away I'm serious. I'm not selling my tickets -- this is my only chance to see Roxy Music, and I wouldn't miss it. But if I had known there was no "Mother of Pearl" in the offing for North America, I might have husbanded my financial resources early in the year so I could have made a jaunt to Europe in June. And not to turn this into a Springsteen discussion, but the following from Aleks made me very curious indeed: >The tickets were priced #25 (Roxy this year #32). I >might be wrong, but from what I recall Springsteen >played maybe a 1.5 to 2 hour gig. When he came on >stage he laid the "house rules" down - stuff like "No >talking/cheering during the songs". I did feel ripped >off with the ticket price, but not with the length of >the set. I'd be very surprised if Springsteen played for less than two and a half hours -- I saw two of the '96 solo/acoustic shows, and have heard several other shows from the tour, and all topped the two hour mark. As Peter Dewey said, with Springsteen holding down the fort by himself, his effort was probably the same as a three-hour show with the E Street Band. Where did you see him? http://www.springsteen.org.uk/bbmain.htm has show-by-show setlists, so it would probably be easy to find out how long he played at a given gig. You may be right about the truncated set, who knows? :-) As for the no talking/cheering during the songs, for a show that was mostly quiet, intense material, having people whooping and hollering and shouting out requests or whatever *during* the songs would have been a huge distraction for artist and audience. Neil Young played an acoustic set at the Opry House a couple of years ago, and there were knots of people who would *not* shut up, and it not only bugged Neil but hacked off the 1,850 people there to see the show and not make spectacles of themselves. It's not quite as annoying when there's loud electric instruments to drown out the gabbers and hollerers, but it's unforgivable behavior for this kind of acoustic show. later, Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:35:32 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] setlist, length, hack schmack, hits?, and bloody tapes At 01:21 PM 7/18/01 -0400, Jads2@aol.com wrote: > << I have, in > essence, already dropped several times that per show to catch this > weekend's east coast dates just for this number. >> > > (I already know the answer that's coming) but isn't that a little odd. > Maybe I just don't get it-but in all hundreds of shows I've seen in my > lifetime-I have never gone to see a group for just one number and find > it hard to believe that anyone would. Other than a very short list of artists I would see no matter where, I swore off larger venues many years ago, and only rarely even consider things in the 1000+ seat range. Top of that list has always been Roxy. Ludicrous hypothetical scenario: Roxy Music reforms to play one song, MOP. Period, end of reunion. $100 entry. I'd pay it and travel half-way around the world to do so. Yes, that's off the deep end from any perspective, yet you know I'd not be the only person in the audience. (A 1990 Kate Bush Convention in London garnered 1200+ attendees, a chunk from the U.S. -- she did show up and performed one song. AFAIK, nobody went away disappointed. She's #2 on the list, BTW.) But the reality is it's a World Tour, not a one-off. And no, I wouldn't be travelling east *just* for one song. The decision to do so involved a convergence of factors (the big scale-tipper being the Boston show is the night prior to my father's birthday, who will be in the area). Nonetheless, from the actual show's content perspective (and the UK-contingent can feel free to string me up for heresy), I simply don't need to see 5 nights of the same exact set in such a short span -- it was indeed just about seeing MOP (and for a while there, ITIS) a couple of additional times. In cities I enjoy, sitting next to people I enjoy, meeting other Avalonians, along with the rest of the set, granted... can't really separate the gravy once it's been poured, you know. -wfs (sure, "a little odd" works) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:59:24 -0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] [Avalon]Tour dates Hi Ann, Go to Manzanera.com All the concert information you need is there and it's bang up to date! Take care, Tracy >From: AnnLeddy@aol.com >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: [AVALON] [Avalon]Tour dates >Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:57:59 EDT > >Does anyone know where I can get a list of remaining tour dates and cities? >(Bryan Ferry website not updated at all). Went to Boston show last night >and >it was great! Disappointed no one wore "Roxy" outfits and surprised to see >such and older, subdued crowd sitting in their chairs for most of the >night. >I'll be back Saturday night for more! > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:49:39 EDT From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] South Downs on tour In a message dated 7/18/2001 3:03:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KWil632057@aol.com writes: > > > I agree. South Downs is the greatest piece of music....EVER! > > Jonathan > ps. Im serious. > > you must be joking-i hope you're joking john ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:56:38 -0400 From: "Alan Carl" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Goggans" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:49 PM Subject: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? >These SFX Promotions people, and >whoever the hell's managing Roxy, need to remove their heads from their >posteriors and get to work **now** if they want the American leg of the tour >to be a success.... Grant,excellent points! I saw vans from 3 radio stations last night,but one on them,from WFNX,wouldn't play Roxy-they play teenage boy music: Staind,Eminem,etc.The other 2 might play something from later Roxy,but I haven't heard of any ticket give aways except one through a local newspaper,The Boston Globe. Jim Sullivan,one of their music reviewers, is a big Roxy fan,and he wrote a preview of their show last Sunday,and I will be interested in seeing his review. Otherwise,no promotion. SFX might be a corporate giant,but like many large corporates,they just don't know how to promote anyone that is even a little different.The best promotion of a new artist I've seen lately was done by Clive Davis(formerly of Arista) and Nettwork,who in 2 years took an unknown,and very good,singer songwriter named Dido from obscurity to the point where she is playing venues in the US as large or larger than what Roxy is playing today. Hey,if only Eminem would sample one of Roxy's early songs? ;-) But seriously,does anyone know of any of their early stuff being sampled? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:04:25 +0100 From: "martin parker" Subject: [AVALON] Bry vs. Bruce Well..............what a strange debate. Who can say who's best and why does it matter? I am Roxy mad, obsessed, demented. Sadly, the most exciting minute of my life was Bryan shuffling forward across the stage at the Newcastle City Hall, with the rim of his gaucho hat still down, during the thrashing opening chords of Prairie Rose on the Country Life tour. Yet the two most invigorating, uplifting, unselfish performances I have ever been lucky enough to witness were Springsteen at Wembley Arena (good seats) on The River tour and at Newcastle City Hall, on his tod, on the Tom Joad tour. Both times, nothing was held back. Sometimes, with Bryan, love him as I do, there's a slight feeling of "well...............we can probably get away with.............................". Hope I'm wrong. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:42:33 -0400 From: "Heather James" Subject: [AVALON] Do you have a spare ticket for Merriweather? Just got a note from a dear friend that hadn't heard about the show 'til recently - and they are ticket-less ... So, dear friends - has anyone got a spare ticket for this Friday night at Merriweather Post Pavilion? Mail me direct with specifics, please ... (no sense clogging the group) ... -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:28:06 -0700 From: "Marcia Sexton" Subject: [AVALON] Concord, CA get-together? A couple of us are planning to get-together either prior to or after the Concord, CA show at Rocco's Ristorante and Pizzeria, about a ten or twelve minute drive from the Chronicle Pavilion (normally). If anyone else is interested in meeting up with us, please contact me off-list, so I can let Rocco know about how many to expect. The restaurant serves pasta, pizza, salads and sandwiches and other food as well as wine and beer, prices seem reasonable, and reviews are good. The website has more information including maps and coupons: http://www.roccospizzeria.com/ Marcia Sexton marcia_sexton@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:45:07 -0500 From: "Jeff Turner" Subject: [AVALON] 90 min., Roxy in America, and miscellaneous I think this has already been brought out, but probably bears repeating. We don't expect Roxy to do more than 90 minutes here because we're mass-consuming Americans (although we are!), we would like to see more than 90 minutes because a) they played (slightly) longer sets in Europe and b) this is their first time on stage in 18 years. This is the first time they've been together since I first got into them (I first heard "Avalon" in about 1984, and my musical life changed forever!). However, if 90 minutes is what we're going to get, it's what we're going to get, and I certainly intend to enjoy it--even if MOP isn't there (that was just too good to be true, wasn't it?). I've seen many 3 hour concerts. Someone mentioned the goddess Tina Turner (no relation, even tho we share the last name--it's her married name). I don't recall how long her show was when I saw her in 1985, but it was absolutely incredible. And Yes has put on many long shows. Jon Anderson has a voice that you might think is frail, but is actually strong in concert and gets stronger as the evening goes on. There. I've done it. I've mentioned that I like Yes. I'm sure some of the folks on the list are going to come back now, tearing Yes to shreds, like they have been doing to Springsteen (or U2, a few months ago). Well, that's fine. Everyone's entitled to an opinion. Think what a boring world it would be musically if Roxy were the only group that had ever existed. We'd be pretty tired of not having heard anything new in 18 years, for one thing. As for lack of radio exposure on this tour, I can't say that it surprises me. Unless you live in a big city with a decent classic-type rock station, you're unlikely to hear Roxy at any time. And while they certainly could have done a better job trying to promote this tour, it's not like they needed to do it to sell tickets. Most of these venues sold out, or at least sold out of the good tickets, pretty quickly. Maybe it would be nice if Roxy suddenly struck it big in the US after all these years, but that just isn't going to happen. The current market is totally oriented on teenybopper tripe like Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, etc. Roxy is so far above the average person's tastes anyway, let alone when everyone's senses are being dulled by the current "music." And in a way, it's fun being in tune with something that is rather "exclusive." I realize that probably sounds pretty elitist. I'm actually not, in most regards (can't usually afford the really expensive stuff!). And as someone pointed out, what if they did hit it big? I think the reference was to having to share Sarah MacLaughlin (another goddess!) with a bunch of high school kids who first became aware of her from hearing "Angel" at the prom. I remember seeing REM on their "Document" tour. You could tell who was an old REM fan and who only knew their new top 40 stuff by who sat down when they played old songs. Oh well, enough rambling. Maybe we can't look forward to a concert longer than 90 minutes. We can still pretend we'll get a DVD that's amalgamated from several shows and represents the combined set list of the whole tour. Wouldn't that be cool! Regards, Jeff _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:50:05 -0700 From: "The Numberer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #311 Excuse me while I check my dictionary and thesaurus. The Numberer (#1 Andy Mackay fan) >From: KB Porter >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #311 >Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:39:14 -0400 > >These statements made by 'The Numberer' are contradictory: > >"Different people have different tastes." >"If you can't top your previous efforts, why bother?" > >The first statement is an observation about reality. The second >statement is a fatal value judgment based on the 'personal perspective' >of the individual who made the statement. This incongruity misconstrues >the premise and skews the argument that I originally put forth. I find >no validity in your rebuttal. KBP, Still feeling very, very edgy. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 01:12:06 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New solo album info It also implies that the co-penned work with both Dave Stewart and Andy Mackay from 1996 has been canned indefinitely. Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "ncjones.lewis2" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 7:37 PM Subject: [AVALON] New solo album info > Just looking through the Toronto press reviews which have been reproduced on > Manzanera.com and noticed a little teaser clipped on at the bottom. > > Basically it mentions Bryan's forthcoming (i.e. out within the next couple of > years) solo work. The teaser being that... > > " After the tour ends, Ferry will go back to work on a new solo rock album, > with half the songs except one written by Ferry, and the other half covers. > The exception, incidentally, is by Brian Eno." ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:24:45 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 90 min., Roxy in America, and miscellaneous > As for lack of radio exposure on this tour, I can't say that it surprises > me. Unless you live in a big city with a decent classic-type rock station, > you're unlikely to hear Roxy at any time. We may not hear Roxy on the radio but I heard "Dance Away" in Wal-Mart. Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:42:34 -0400 From: "Theresa Fagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bry vs. Bruce Ain't I lucky?! Bruce and Bryan are my two fave rave musicians ... but it is impossible to compare the two. - --TriTri - ----- Original Message ----- From: "martin parker" | Well..............what a strange debate. Who can say who's best and why does | it matter? I am Roxy mad, obsessed, demented. Sadly, the most exciting | minute of my life was Bryan shuffling forward across the stage at the | Newcastle City Hall, with the rim of his gaucho hat still down, during the | thrashing opening chords of Prairie Rose on the Country Life tour. Yet the | two most invigorating, uplifting, unselfish performances I have ever been | lucky enough to witness were Springsteen at Wembley Arena (good seats) on | The River tour and at Newcastle City Hall, on his tod, on the Tom Joad tour. | Both times, nothing was held back. Sometimes, with Bryan, love him as I do, | there's a slight feeling of "well...............we can probably get away | with.............................". Hope I'm wrong. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:49:22 -0400 From: Bobbyoz Subject: Re: [AVALON] Philadelphia Help ! According to phiily weekly newspaper, someone named Rufus Wainwright has just been added. Based on the boards mention of the 90 min length of Roxy, the show starts at 8. Unless poor Roof get booed off stage, look for a eta Roxy @9, over by 1030/1100, u got plenty of time. Good Luck. Also Lookin fer poe1527, our seat r in 104 section g. God Bless 2 all Avalonians Bruce MacQueen wrote: > What are the chances that you can get from the Tweeter Center back to > 30th Street Station by 11:50 following the Roxy concert Thursday night? > Dare I buy a return train ticket? > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:19:20 -0400 From: Bobbyoz Subject: Re: [AVALON] Philadelphia Help ! oh yeah, fergot one thing, tell the cabbie that drives u over from 30th st. in Philly to wait and keep the meter runnin, lest u wanna spend the nite, rockin in philly, with the mysterious Mr. Poe. (definitely not fer d faint hearted nor d chained n bound). Bobbyoz wrote: > According to phiily weekly newspaper, someone named Rufus Wainwright has just > been added. Based on the boards mention of the 90 min length of Roxy, the show > starts at 8. Unless poor Roof get booed off stage, look for a eta Roxy @9, > over by 1030/1100, u got plenty of time. Good Luck. Also Lookin fer poe1527, > our seat r in 104 section g. God Bless 2 all Avalonians > Bruce MacQueen wrote: > > > What are the chances that you can get from the Tweeter Center back to > > 30th Street Station by 11:50 following the Roxy concert Thursday night? > > Dare I buy a return train ticket? > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:48:49 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] 90 min., Roxy in America, and miscellaneous In a message dated 7/18/01 7:44:44 PM, tinkandjeans1st@home.com writes: << > As for lack of radio exposure on this tour, I can't say that it surprises > me. Unless you live in a big city with a decent classic-type rock station, > you're unlikely to hear Roxy at any time. We may not hear Roxy on the radio but I heard "Dance Away" in Wal-Mart. >> I have heard a lot of Roxy in "Muzak" situations lately. I'm not sure that counts as promotion, though. Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:12:26 EDT From: Artman1@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bry vs. Bruce It would be impossible musically, but don't forget they're both from working class backgrounds(of course, that may be the only thing they have in common!). Art In a message dated 7/18/01 8:53:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tfagan@neo.rr.com writes: > Ain't I lucky?! Bruce and Bryan are my two fave rave musicians ... but it is > impossible to compare the two. > > --TriTri ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:10:01 EDT From: JDLJ1808@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: Scorpio women As a Scorpio woman, I totally enjoyed Bryan's comments in the Penthouse interview (what Scorpio woman wouldn't??) Cheers to Scorpio, Diane in Boulder P.S. looking forward to the Boston show on Saturday!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:47:20 -0500 From: jas2347@speedsite.com Subject: [AVALON] Oh... No Promos? Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:49:20 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? Geez, here we go again. The cool ruler comes to the US and nobody but his subjects give a shit.. Thanks Grant for re-stating what I said about the American leg of the tour when it was first announced. Bryan's management is wasting a golden opportunity to have massive exposure while here by not appearing on any TV shows that have big audiences (i.e. Jay Leno,Lettermen, O'Brian, VH1, Today show, etc.). As important and influential this been has been over the years, you'd think they get big press. It's very disappointing. Even if that wasn't possible, has anyone in any city heard anything about any radio station doing even a live interview with the band? We in Chicago hope that MAYBE they could stop by WXRT in the afternoon before the show. The station is no that far from the Allstate Arena. Besides, Bryan has topped by in the past for chats. The Chicago Avalonians will be on the lookout that day. Have any weird promo stuff shown up? Music directors in radio are, for the most part, big corporate weasels. Play to them and play their game and you win. So far WXRT has been playing a promo for the Chicago concert morning and night for the last two weeks. Every DJ has have been playing at least one Roxy song within their sets. I think they are trying to make up for the fact that they waited almost until the final minute( two days before the tickets went on sale) to acknowledge that Roxy was indeed playing in Chicago. I had to remind several DJ's and a very STUPID intern, that they WERE when the American dates were first announced. Of course I made reference to this list as my source :))) I could have done a better job of promoting than SFX has done for the Chicago leg of this tour. They could have hired me and the Chicago Avalonians to have done the promos and Andrew to design the lighting for the show. We're still available if needed :))). Jas The Chicago Martini Mob (Two weeks in counting!!!) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 01:18:18 -0400 From: "Strimples" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? SFX occasionally does radio shows and I was hoping that they would do one with Roxy. Either a live concert or maybe an interview show. They do it for "bigger" acts that don't need as much promotion rather than shows that could use a little push. Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Carl To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grant Goggans" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:49 PM > Subject: [AVALON] Is anyone really sure that Roxy is in America? > >These SFX Promotions people, and > >whoever the hell's managing Roxy, need to remove their heads from their > >posteriors and get to work **now** if they want the American leg of the > tour > >to be a success.... > > > Grant,excellent points! I saw vans from 3 radio stations last night,but one > on them,from WFNX,wouldn't play Roxy-they play teenage boy music: > Staind,Eminem,etc.The other 2 might play something from later Roxy,but I > haven't heard of any ticket give aways except one through a local > newspaper,The Boston Globe. > Jim Sullivan,one of their music reviewers, is a big Roxy fan,and he wrote a > preview of their show last Sunday,and I will be interested in seeing his > review. > Otherwise,no promotion. > SFX might be a corporate giant,but like many large corporates,they just > don't know how to promote anyone that is even a little different.The best > promotion of a new artist I've seen lately was done by Clive Davis(formerly > of Arista) and Nettwork,who in 2 years took an unknown,and very good,singer > songwriter named Dido from obscurity to the point where she is playing > venues in the US as large or larger than what Roxy is playing today. > > Hey,if only Eminem would sample one of Roxy's early songs? ;-) > > But seriously,does anyone know of any of their early stuff being sampled? > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ___ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:44:26 -0500 From: jas2347@speedsite.com Subject: [AVALON] When you were young Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 07:09:48 EDT From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] New vs old this vs that ...I firmly believe that the music that hits you hard as a teen (13 to 22 maybe?) becomes the soundtrack to your adolescence-with all that entails. At that age if your a music fanatic (as people on this list absolutely are)music becomes a very personal thing and your favorite bands mean a lot to you. They are a part of forming who you are and set you apart from others. Oh so true. In my case age 9 (1964). It was already Motown( with some Jazz and classical) and then the Beatles. That cross pollination started it all for me. I do stand out (musically and otherwise), but I feel proud that I am. Had I not, I would not have discovered Roxy/Bryan this wonderful list,and my pals in the Chicago Martini Mob :)) As for the upcoming concert, I will revel in whatever they decide to perform. I'm just happy that they are alive, looking good, sounding good, and that they are together. However, the first five albums have special ressonance, so when ANYTHING from them are played it will hit me the hardest. Jas (Two weeks and counting) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 03:22:25 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] South Downs on tour I would never joke about a piece of music as amazing as South Downs. Jonathan In a message dated 18/07/01 22:25:02 GMT Daylight Time, Jads2@aol.com writes: > you must be joking-i hope you're joking > > john ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 02:37:34 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bry vs. Bruce > It would be impossible musically, but don't forget they're both from working > class backgrounds(of course, that may be the only thing they have in common!). > > Art They are both Librans. Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 03:54:13 EDT From: Etherealana@cs.com Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Fashion Statement.. I know we have talked about this in the past, but please my fellow avalonians I do not want to be the only one in my Roxy mode fashion statement. Please join me . And yes I know it is about the music, but what do you say and we have a little fun, and show the guys that us old geezers have a lot of spunk left!! Ana ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #316 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest