From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #312 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, July 17 2001 Volume 06 : Number 312 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] First north american show ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] [AVALON] Off topic Starzone magazine ["dark.images" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #311 [Heather James ] Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #311 ["Alison Holgate" ] Re: [AVALON] Girl of my Best Friend [Heather James ] Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) [Aleks Kocan ] Re: [AVALON] Girl of my Best Friend [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Toronto Concert ["One of the Grays" ] Re: [AVALON] weakest track was on F+B (was Siren, was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Toronto Concert [EJDalseme@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:00:00 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show Here Hear, And I'm in the UK! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod LeCloux To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show > From: Denis Smith > > > The set list as well as a short review can be found at canoe.ca > > http://www.canoe.ca/JamConcertsR2Z/roxymusic_071601-sun.html > > The review states they only played 90 minutes. Could someone hook them up > with Springsteen's trainer? > > U.S. audience will be very disapointed with a 90 minute show. If they are > trying to save Bryan's voice then let Phil crank out some of those wonderful > instumentals from his 70's solo albums! > > rOd > > NP. Geddy Lee - My Favorite Headache > > PS. Yes, I'm on vacation today, that's why I'm busy emailing for a change:) > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:18:54 -0400 From: "Denis Smith" Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show As far as I was cocerned they could have left it for much later (maybe another tour .... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod LeCloux" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show > From: Denis Smith > > > For those > > wondering if Avalon would be back it is ( at the expense of in every > dream > > home a heartache from the last show in Europe. > > BUMMER!! I guess they feel the pressure to do the hits from the 80's. Maybe > it was part of the 50 date tour contract to also do the hits in America. I > haven't listened to their current show yet but I just don't see how "Avalon" > fits. > > I suppose Bryan doesn't want to get booed for not doing Avalon. Couldn't we > have all saved that one for much later in the evening;) > > rOd > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:31:19 -0500 (CDT) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: 90mins.? You are so right Rod, Americans are use to a long concert. At least 21/2 hrs. are the norm. The Boys better get busy, there will be pandemonium.--- Paying out the rat's arse for tickets for a 90 min. show, will be a big let down. Marlana............................................. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:46:48 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #311 >Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:47:08 EDT >From: Jads2@aol.com >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) > >I've been reading a lot about how this album was better than that album-or >how tracks on Siren were weak or Country Life had some bad ones. (Now don't >take this as an insult or anything) but I wonder if saying this is a >product >of listening to the albums after the fact. What I mean is that someone >gets >into Roxy during Manifesto or Avalon and then goes back and gets their back >catalog and says one album is weaker than another after listening to them >all >. All I know is that I bought every Roxy album on the day they were >released >(as imports) and I was never disappointed. Sure there were songs that I >liked better than others-but I never considered a Roxy album weak until >Manifesto-which I grew to love and certainly Flesh & Blood (which I still >have trouble with). As they were released they became my favorite album of >that moment and sometimes stayed that way until the next album (or the next >bowie album). > >Of course the first 2 were the milestones because they were basically the >shock of the new. But no group could sustain that type of brilliance >although Roxy sure came close I've always felt that people discovering Roxy after the fact are doomed to wonder what it must have been like at the time, but also in an odd place since their opinion will be so colored by their first impression. Myself, I had read the names "Bryan Ferry" and "Roxy Music" in various places, but never a note of music until "Kiss and Tell" was on the charts in 1988. My first purchase was "Bete Noire," I saw "Avalon" on the MTV "Deja Video" show, and I saw Bry live that August. I bought "Avalon" and "Boys and Girls" the next day. That was my introduction to Bryan, and I have to say (despite the people who dislike those 3 LPs), that the impression was a mighty one, and it formed my view of who this artist was, sonically and lyrically. About three days later, I consulted some rock encyclopedia, found out what I needed and bought his entire back LP catalog on used vinyl in one great shopping expedition, excepting "Country Life" because I could only find the censored cover. Something like 10 albums in one go. Both the first two LPs were reissues without the gatefold sleeves. Had the gatefolds, with their glam pics of the band all prettied up in their costumes, been there, I might have been prepared for the ungodly wailing noise that emnated when I put the needle down for "Re-make/Re-model." Don't get me wrong; I know now that "Re-make/Re-model" is one of the five best songs ever written, and that Bry's strongest work is on the first four albums. But it took me a long, long time to warm to them, and while I more than certainly appreciate the originality and the technical proficiency of, say, "If There is Something," it simply can't move me emotionally the way side two of "Boys and Girls" does, because it was the latter stuff that I fell in love with first. Grant Goggans comments welcome http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:52:37 +0100 From: "Niki H" Subject: [AVALON] for Andy "dark images" sorry if I offended you,I don't know what to think!if you are real then it must be Penthouse who faked the interview,so I dread the last part.it's up to you if you want to send it but I just cannot believe he said all that.it started well but it degenerated into something else. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:00:50 +0100 From: "dark.images" Subject: [AVALON] Off topic Starzone magazine Came across the first 12 issues of Starzone this afternoon whilst sorting the loft out,all issues are in Mint condition,anyone intrested please mail off list.cheers. The Mysterious Andy. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:16:41 +0100 From: "dark.images" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: 90mins.? 90 mins is bloody good for Roxy,back in the good old days of the stranded/country life/ siren tours Roxy performed for 1hr 17mins on the button,no wonder they blew it stateside. Andy. - ----- Original Message ----- From: M.M.K. To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 5:31 PM Subject: [AVALON] Re: 90mins.? > You are so right Rod, Americans are use to a long concert. At least 21/2 > hrs. are the norm. The Boys better get busy, there will be > pandemonium.--- Paying out the rat's arse for tickets for a 90 min. > show, will be a big let down. > Marlana............................................. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:18:21 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #311 In a recent email here, Grant was heard to say ... > > Had the gatefolds, with their glam pics of the band all prettied up > in their costumes, been there, I might have been prepared for the > ungodly wailing noise that emnated when I put the needle down for > "Re-make/Re-model." > > Don't get me wrong; I know now that "Re-make/Re-model" is one of the > five best songs ever written, and that Bry's strongest work is on the > first four albums. But it took me a long, long time to warm to them, > and while I more than certainly appreciate the originality and the > technical proficiency of, say, "If There is Something," it simply > can't move me emotionally the way side two of "Boys and Girls" does, > because it was the latter stuff that I fell in love with first. Ah - but thats only because you weren't listening in those days when the album first came out. My there was some gawdawful dreck on the radio - and Roxy cut right on through ... Of course, years later, with the audio experience of Ultravox, Duran and the later luminaries that grew from the early Roxy spark - those early albums sounded dated - but in the day ... WHEW! -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< Grant Goggans wrote: >> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:47:08 EDT >> From: Jads2@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) >> >> I've been reading a lot about how this album was better than that >> album-or >> how tracks on Siren were weak or Country Life had some bad ones. (Now >> don't >> take this as an insult or anything) but I wonder if saying this is a >> product >> of listening to the albums after the fact. What I mean is that >> someone gets >> into Roxy during Manifesto or Avalon and then goes back and gets their >> back >> catalog and says one album is weaker than another after listening to >> them all >> . All I know is that I bought every Roxy album on the day they were >> released >> (as imports) and I was never disappointed. Sure there were songs that I >> liked better than others-but I never considered a Roxy album weak until >> Manifesto-which I grew to love and certainly Flesh & Blood (which I still >> have trouble with). As they were released they became my favorite >> album of >> that moment and sometimes stayed that way until the next album (or the >> next >> bowie album). >> >> Of course the first 2 were the milestones because they were basically the >> shock of the new. But no group could sustain that type of brilliance >> although Roxy sure came close > > > I've always felt that people discovering Roxy after the fact are doomed > to wonder what it must have been like at the time, but also in an odd > place since their opinion will be so colored by their first impression. > > Myself, I had read the names "Bryan Ferry" and "Roxy Music" in various > places, but never a note of music until "Kiss and Tell" was on the > charts in 1988. My first purchase was "Bete Noire," I saw "Avalon" on > the MTV "Deja Video" show, and I saw Bry live that August. I bought > "Avalon" and "Boys and Girls" the next day. That was my introduction to > Bryan, and I have to say (despite the people who dislike those 3 LPs), > that the impression was a mighty one, and it formed my view of who this > artist was, sonically and lyrically. > > About three days later, I consulted some rock encyclopedia, found out > what I needed and bought his entire back LP catalog on used vinyl in one > great shopping expedition, excepting "Country Life" because I could only > find the censored cover. Something like 10 albums in one go. Both the > first two LPs were reissues without the gatefold sleeves. Had the > gatefolds, with their glam pics of the band all prettied up in their > costumes, been there, I might have been prepared for the ungodly wailing > noise that emnated when I put the needle down for "Re-make/Re-model." > > Don't get me wrong; I know now that "Re-make/Re-model" is one of the > five best songs ever written, and that Bry's strongest work is on the > first four albums. But it took me a long, long time to warm to them, > and while I more than certainly appreciate the originality and the > technical proficiency of, say, "If There is Something," it simply can't > move me emotionally the way side two of "Boys and Girls" does, because > it was the latter stuff that I fell in love with first. > > Grant Goggans > comments welcome > > http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:34:52 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris At 10:18 AM 7/17/01 +0100, Simon Galloway wrote: > Anyway, getting off topic now. Dropping MOP for Dance Away? What a bunch > of girly wusses!!! One has to wonder what the point of conducting the poll was. Would the Team at Expression Records be so kind as to slip a reminder copy of the results to the band? Thanks. -wfs (hoping for news tonight from Boston that he hasn't just dropped close to a couple of grand for 5 performances of Dance Away) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:44:21 +0100 From: "Alison Holgate" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #311 I agree with the idea that people decide about earlier tracks after getting into the music after hearing later stuff (usually). I first got into RM after seeing them in a pub, before they'd ever released a thing, well before anyone else I know had heard of them,bought every album as it was issued and have never been disappointed-as you say there were some tracks I liked better than others, but never ever disappointed. I went into a shop today where the owner recognised me from being at Wembley recently and asked what I had thought of the concert. Upon hearing how thrilled I was, they then told me how disappointed they were, that there was so much early stuff, not enough from the later years-not enough-and I quote:'real Roxy!!' I have offered to copy all the early stuff for them, but they obviously weren't keen-and I find that astonishing, frankly. How can they decide without a full hearing? Just thought I'd add my 2pence worth!! Cheers from mega rainy Brighton! Alison - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Goggans" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 5:46 PM Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #311 > >Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:47:08 EDT > >From: Jads2@aol.com > >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) > > > >I've been reading a lot about how this album was better than that album-or > >how tracks on Siren were weak or Country Life had some bad ones. (Now don't > >take this as an insult or anything) but I wonder if saying this is a > >product > >of listening to the albums after the fact. What I mean is that someone > >gets > >into Roxy during Manifesto or Avalon and then goes back and gets their back > >catalog and says one album is weaker than another after listening to them > >all > >. All I know is that I bought every Roxy album on the day they were > >released > >(as imports) and I was never disappointed. Sure there were songs that I > >liked better than others-but I never considered a Roxy album weak until > >Manifesto-which I grew to love and certainly Flesh & Blood (which I still > >have trouble with). As they were released they became my favorite album of > >that moment and sometimes stayed that way until the next album (or the next > >bowie album). > > > >Of course the first 2 were the milestones because they were basically the > >shock of the new. But no group could sustain that type of brilliance > >although Roxy sure came close > > I've always felt that people discovering Roxy after the fact are doomed to > wonder what it must have been like at the time, but also in an odd place > since their opinion will be so colored by their first impression. > > Myself, I had read the names "Bryan Ferry" and "Roxy Music" in various > places, but never a note of music until "Kiss and Tell" was on the charts in > 1988. My first purchase was "Bete Noire," I saw "Avalon" on the MTV "Deja > Video" show, and I saw Bry live that August. I bought "Avalon" and "Boys > and Girls" the next day. That was my introduction to Bryan, and I have to > say (despite the people who dislike those 3 LPs), that the impression was a > mighty one, and it formed my view of who this artist was, sonically and > lyrically. > > About three days later, I consulted some rock encyclopedia, found out what I > needed and bought his entire back LP catalog on used vinyl in one great > shopping expedition, excepting "Country Life" because I could only find the > censored cover. Something like 10 albums in one go. Both the first two LPs > were reissues without the gatefold sleeves. Had the gatefolds, with their > glam pics of the band all prettied up in their costumes, been there, I might > have been prepared for the ungodly wailing noise that emnated when I put the > needle down for "Re-make/Re-model." > > Don't get me wrong; I know now that "Re-make/Re-model" is one of the five > best songs ever written, and that Bry's strongest work is on the first four > albums. But it took me a long, long time to warm to them, and while I more > than certainly appreciate the originality and the technical proficiency of, > say, "If There is Something," it simply can't move me emotionally the way > side two of "Boys and Girls" does, because it was the latter stuff that I > fell in love with first. > > Grant Goggans > comments welcome > > http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:55:40 +0100 From: "dark.images" Subject: Re: [AVALON] for Andy "dark images" No offence taken Niki,the Penthouse interview gets no prettier I'm afraid,so I'll skip the last part,but don't forget never judge a book by it's cover including Mr Ferry. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Niki H To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: [AVALON] for Andy "dark images" > sorry if I offended you,I don't know what to think!if you are real then it > must be Penthouse who faked the interview,so I dread the last part.it's up > to you if you want to send it but I just cannot believe he said all that.it > started well but it degenerated into something else. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:01:37 EDT From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #311 In a message dated 7/17/01 1:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hjames@thewebgal.com writes: << Ah - but thats only because you weren't listening in those days when the album first came out. My there was some gawdawful dreck on the radio - and Roxy cut right on through ... Of course, years later, with the audio experience of Ultravox, Duran and the later luminaries that grew from the early Roxy spark - those early albums sounded dated - but in the day ... WHEW! >> You are absoluely right there. I remember first hearing Re-Make and the debut and was just blown away. At least here in the States music was entering its mammoth phase where groups started being able to sell out large arenas and that was not always a good thing. The radio was dreck for the most part-especially in the States. In 1972 when glam starting wafting over we had bowie and T.Rex to set us apart. But that first Roxy album was just a one of a kind-it was different-they were different and unlike many of the bands in the glam movement they were not only stylish but had quality to spare (I remember myself staring at the inside gatefold pictures trying to register the appearance of these guys-as I've said before the next day I went out and streaked my hair a la Andy. That's something that kids today will never get-album covers and the whole art of packaging-somehow CD inserts just don't do itf). I can understand those that came to the party a bit after that their opinions are colored by their first impressions. This happened to me with Bob Dylan. I got into dylan pretty late in the game but went back and bought the entire catalog. While I understand it I could never get the feeling of being there and getting Highway 61 after the previous one-how radical a change it must have been-or Blonde on Blonde. I know they're great-and I love them-but the emotion is not the same. Bottom line is that we must listen with open ears and understand those that prefer one of the later albums over the early ones. To me they were all great and I can't imagine my teen years without any of them just as they were released- john ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 19:47:27 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: [AVALON] Off Topic: Hols - Petra, Jordan Hi everyone, I shall be in Sinai, Egypt next week - is the jaunt to Petra in Jordan worthwhile? Anyone ever done the journey from Sinai? Thanks Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:50:53 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Girl of my Best Friend At 07.55 -0400 1-07-17, Heather James wrote: >I just got a copy of the "Girl of My Best Friend" Japanese CD. Sp it was worth the monet I take it? NP The Speace Between Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:07:34 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] for Andy "dark images" At 18.55 +0100 1-07-17, dark.images wrote: >No offence taken Niki,the Penthouse interview gets no prettier I'm afraid,so >I'll skip the last part,but don't forget never judge a book by it's cover >including Mr Ferry. No please send the last part, I am intrested. NP Take A Chance With Me Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 20:58:20 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) John, Siren was the first Roxy Music album I bought, the previous four came after. My favorite is still Viva!, but I very seldom play Siren. It's not a bad album, but I think that the first four plus Avalon are better. Viva of course being the best, but I like live albums. I'd better pull out Siren again and have a spinn. NP India, Avalon Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:05:27 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #311 At 12.46 -0400 1-07-17, Grant Goggans wrote: > "If There is Something," it simply can't move me emotionally the way >side two of "Boys and Girls" does, because it was the latter stuff that I >fell in love with first. For me it's the other way around, I found the first period Roxy when I was a teenager and the "Boys and Girls" period do not do anything for me. I guess I'll have to buy it again. My wife likes that period of Ferry. I prefer "If There is Something," from Vibva! NP The Main Thing Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:01:01 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show At 10.13 -0500 1-07-17, Rod LeCloux wrote: >The review states they only played 90 minutes. Could someone hook them up >with Springsteen's trainer? > >U.S. audience will be very disapointed with a 90 minute show. If they are >trying to save Bryan's voice then let Phil crank out some of those wonderful >instumentals from his 70's solo albums! Great idea and the hits first as well. 90 minutes is a bit short, the Eagles plat longer. Was is the time of the Stockholm 76 bottleg? That is the whole show, including solo stuff. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:08:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show - --- Rod LeCloux wrote: > > U.S. audience will be very disapointed with a 90 > minute show. All things being equal the average length for a concert would be approx 90 to 120 mins. I've seen Mark Knopfler/Terence Trent D'Arby play 2.5 to 3 hour sets, and Morrisey play 60 minutes. So I suppose it's an average set time - we all want the set to be longer but it ain't going to happen. Without starting the ticket price argument again I suppose that people want a bit more for the cash they're paying. Having said that I'd happily pay the same ticket price again to see Roxy play a 90 minute set... Aleks Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:10:04 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] Girl of my Best Friend I thought so - i got it for $22 off ebay - just had the one listen last night over dinner (trying to not OD my roomie!) and I liked it, tho the live cuts are different than most of the live boots I've been listening to lately. The live cuts are a lot "spacier" than the live cuts from Wolverhampton (with Trower) ... or the older material I have in the Roxy era ... -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< Daniel Atterbom wrote: > At 07.55 -0400 1-07-17, Heather James wrote: > >>I just got a copy of the "Girl of My Best Friend" Japanese CD. >> > > Sp it was worth the monet I take it? > > NP The Speace Between > > > Daniel > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:19:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) - --- Jads2@aol.com wrote: > I've been reading a lot about how this album was > better than that album but I wonder if > saying this is a product > of listening to the albums after the fact. I agree and guilty of it myself. The first Roxy album I bought on release was Manifesto, then F+B and Avalon. Because of my age at the time (seven) I didn't buy the 1st album on release. Now I find myself liking some of the early stuff more, rather than the F+B etc.. era (even though F+B was never off my turntable. However, things change and in a couple of years time I might be singing the praises of F+B or whatever. That's the beauty of all the albums - all different, so there's always something that'll suit the mood at the time Aleks P.S Just wondering what the weakest track was on F+B (only joking....) Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:26:51 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] A Call To Arms! They want a damn riot on their hands, do they! I demand "Mother Of Pearl" and "In Every Dreamhouse A Heartache" be reinstated immediately. Immediately!!! Wishing, at the moment, that my 'wish was their command': Feeling really, really edgy; a stepping razor, KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:14:19 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Girl of my Best Friend >At 07.55 -0400 1-07-17, Heather James wrote: >>I just got a copy of the "Girl of My Best Friend" Japanese CD. > >Sp it was worth the monet I take it? That should of course read: So it was worth the money I take it? Having missed a sign print by Picasso fvr USD 190 I have art on my mind. NP To Turn You On Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:50:51 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #311 I believe, regardless of the album which brought the listener to Roxy Music and/or Bryan Ferry, that the more open one is to accepting a natural evolution of another's artistic expression, the greater the chance is that all phases of that artist will become equivocally appreciated albeit for varying reasons. Roxy Music - Bryan Ferry - spin them anytime, anyplace, any order - It is all good - even "Cry, Cry, Cry! Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:25:24 -0400 From: "One of the Grays" Subject: [AVALON] Toronto Concert Just a quick note to give you details of the set list from the ACC show in Toronto. Dissapointingly short set, approx. 90 mins. but a superb concert none the less. Intro - Southdown Re-make/Re-model Street Life Ladytron While My Heart Is Still Beating Out Of The Blue A Song For Europe My Only Love Oh Yeah Both Ends Burning Tara Avalon Dance Away Jealous Guy Editions Of You Virginia Plain Encore: Love Is The Drug Do The Strand For Your Pleasure Later, John Gray ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:32:29 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] weakest track was on F+B (was Siren, was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) At 12.19 -0700 1-07-17, Aleks Kocan wrote: >Just wondering what the weakest track was on F+B >(only joking....) But the covers of course. NP Could It Happen to Me? Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:35:24 -0400 From: Rick Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music, Boston, Mass, 2001 begins now! 30 minutes and I'll be on my way to the greatest Rock Reunion in history! Unfareeken believable! Viva! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:36:36 -0500 (CDT) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Roxy Music answers Siren song of road Paper headline ----Will skim it down & try to give the best ------After establishing themselves as the epitome of pop elegance through the early 1980's, the British group Roxy Music is with us once again.-----"It seemed the time right, plus it's the 30th Anniversary & I felt there was a bit of unfinished business to be done," offers guitarist Phil Manzanera. "There seems to be a lot of good will about, as far as I can make " muses singer Bryan Ferry.------Much like the Velvet Underground, Roxy Music is one of those bands whose acclaim & influence far exceeds their record sales. Co-founder Brian Eno, of course, put a stamp on many a group----directly through production, & indirectly in his own music through his jarring juxtaposition of sound & words. -----Roxy Music inspired England's " New Romantic" movement in the early 80's.-------After 12 days rehearsing, Mr. Ferry says,"There seems to be nothing but a good feeling toward the music".--------The band's music stands the test of time. Virgin Records just released the' Best of Roxy' & issued remastered CD's of the band's catalog last yr. On the UK label Pilot, there is a ( new ) LIVE DOUBLE CD, CONCERTO, originally recorded in Denver in 1979.------Roxy Music 2001 will include three players from Mr. Ferry's last solo tour, two other musicians, a backup singer & original drummer Paul Thompson.-------Mr Eno, though on friendly terms with Roxy players, wasn't asked to join because of his aversion to touring. Marlana......................................................... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:24:51 0000 From: "diane whateley" Subject: [AVALON] RE:[ AVALON]: Message for Jane Collard- Off Topic Jane, Please could you mail me as I have lost your address. thanks, Diane P.S. Apologies to the list Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:30:28 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris > terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > > I find it very difficult to find boots here in the UK, I'm off to Paris > this > weekend and wondered if anyone new of any outlets there that I could > buy some > from. I'm sure you can find a good pair of Wellies close to you home. Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:36:26 EDT From: EJDalseme@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Toronto Concert For anyone interested, vivaroxymusic.com has more reviews and audio links from the Toronto gig. ems ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #312 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest