From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #311 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, July 17 2001 Volume 06 : Number 311 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Boots in Paris ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris ["A.L. Jepson" ] Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris ["A.L. Jepson" ] Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris ["David Squires " ] RE: [AVALON] Boots in Paris ["Heather James" ] Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris ["A.L. Jepson" ] [AVALON] Jealous gut ["Simon Galloway" ] [AVALON] the penthouse interview ["Niki H" ] [AVALON] to dark images ["Niki H" ] [AVALON] THIS THURSDAY!!! Two very good seats to Camden 7/19 [kevin brown] [AVALON] Girl of my Best Friend [Heather James ] Re: [AVALON] Artist on the Avalon-list!!!! [Heather James ] [AVALON] Tuxedo ["Nigel Hollis" ] Re: [AVALON] First north american show ["Denis Smith" ] RE: [AVALON] First north american show [Jocelyn Fiske ] Re: [AVALON] First north american show ["Rod LeCloux" Subject: [AVALON] Boots in Paris I find it very difficult to find boots here in the UK, I'm off to Paris this weekend and wondered if anyone new of any outlets there that I could buy some from. Also which are the best sound quality as I'm quite fussy, I believe the Mamouna Birmingham show is good? Looking forward in anticipation, Terry ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:32:55 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris You should try looking in the military stores here. Failing that there are lots of outlets that sell brands by Kickers and Caterpillar. Sorry, I couldn't resist that poor joke. Alan terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > > I find it very difficult to find boots here in the UK, I'm off to Paris this > weekend and wondered if anyone new of any outlets there that I could buy some > from. Also which are the best sound quality as I'm quite fussy, I believe the > Mamouna Birmingham show is good? > > Looking forward in anticipation, > > Terry > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:47:53 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris You can't go wrong with Doctor Martins as far as I'm concerned, the best boots in the world! >>> "A.L. Jepson" 07/17 9:32 am >>> You should try looking in the military stores here. Failing that there are lots of outlets that sell brands by Kickers and Caterpillar. Sorry, I couldn't resist that poor joke. Alan terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > > I find it very difficult to find boots here in the UK, I'm off to Paris this > weekend and wondered if anyone new of any outlets there that I could buy some > from. Also which are the best sound quality as I'm quite fussy, I believe the > Mamouna Birmingham show is good? > > Looking forward in anticipation, > > Terry ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:58:07 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris Doctor Martins are very 1980s though. You don't see as many people wearing them as much as you used to. Well, not in the UK anyway. Nevertheless, there are still good boots. Alan Simon Galloway wrote: > > You can't go wrong with Doctor Martins as far as I'm concerned, the best boots in the world! > > >>> "A.L. Jepson" 07/17 9:32 am >>> > You should try looking in the military stores here. Failing that there > are lots of outlets that sell brands by Kickers and Caterpillar. > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that poor joke. > > Alan > > terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > > > > I find it very difficult to find boots here in the UK, I'm off to Paris this > > weekend and wondered if anyone new of any outlets there that I could buy some > > from. Also which are the best sound quality as I'm quite fussy, I believe the > > Mamouna Birmingham show is good? > > > > Looking forward in anticipation, > > > > Terry > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:00:48 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris ho ho ho - ----- Original Message ----- From: A.L. Jepson To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris > You should try looking in the military stores here. Failing that there > are lots of outlets that sell brands by Kickers and Caterpillar. > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that poor joke. > > Alan > > terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > > > > I find it very difficult to find boots here in the UK, I'm off to Paris this > > weekend and wondered if anyone new of any outlets there that I could buy some > > from. Also which are the best sound quality as I'm quite fussy, I believe the > > Mamouna Birmingham show is good? > > > > Looking forward in anticipation, > > > > Terry > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:26:36 +0200 From: "TORTERA " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris I've a pair of leopard Dr Martins boots , very suitable for early Roxy's.... caroline - ---------- De : A.L. Jepson A : avalon@smoe.org Objet : Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris Date : mardi 17 juillet 2001 10:58 Doctor Martins are very 1980s though. You don't see as many people wearing them as much as you used to. Well, not in the UK anyway. Nevertheless, there are still good boots. Alan Simon Galloway wrote: > > You can't go wrong with Doctor Martins as far as I'm concerned, the best boots in the world! > > >>> "A.L. Jepson" 07/17 9:32 am >>> > You should try looking in the military stores here. Failing that there > are lots of outlets that sell brands by Kickers and Caterpillar. > > Sorry, I couldn't resist that poor joke. > > Alan > > terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > > > > I find it very difficult to find boots here in the UK, I'm off to Paris this > > weekend and wondered if anyone new of any outlets there that I could buy some > > from. Also which are the best sound quality as I'm quite fussy, I believe the > > Mamouna Birmingham show is good? > > > > Looking forward in anticipation, > > > > Terry > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:18:34 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris 80s? I don't think so! Try going back a few years further - very punk where I came from, then they came back hand in hand (or is that foot on foot?) with Converse trainers for early 90s indie kids. I still see loads of people wearing them, they're a timeless item of footwear! Anyway, getting off topic now. Dropping MOP for Dance Away? What a bunch of girly wusses!!! SimonG >>> "A.L. Jepson" 07/17 9:58 am >>> Doctor Martins are very 1980s though. You don't see as many people wearing them as much as you used to. Well, not in the UK anyway. Nevertheless, there are still good boots. Alan Simon Galloway wrote: > > You can't go wrong with Doctor Martins as far as I'm concerned, the best boots in the world! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:18:53 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris On 17 Jul 2001, at 9:58, A.L. Jepson wrote: > Doctor Martins are very 1980s though. You don't see as many people > wearing them as much as you used to. A wholly good thing, IMHO. You can't imagine the horror I felt as my beloved utilitarian shoes and boots became hideously fashionable, worn by the insubstantial. Now I can return to walking down the street in my parka and docos pretending to be Feargal Sharkey... David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:21:28 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris On 17 Jul 2001, at 11:26, TORTERA wrote: > I've a pair of leopard Dr Martins boots , very suitable for early > Roxy's.... You see what I mean? (Sorry Caroline!) D - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 05:43:06 -0400 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Boots in Paris No, they CAN'T drop MOP ... What next - no Song for Europe? Please ... drop Jealous Guy instead! (PLEASE! -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ MCC MidAtlantic District: http://www.mcc-midatl.org Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Simon Galloway > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 5:19 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris > > > 80s? I don't think so! Try going back a few years further - very > punk where I came from, then they came back hand in hand (or is > that foot on foot?) with Converse trainers for early 90s indie > kids. I still see loads of people wearing them, they're a > timeless item of footwear! > > Anyway, getting off topic now. Dropping MOP for Dance Away? What > a bunch of girly wusses!!! > > SimonG > > >>> "A.L. Jepson" 07/17 9:58 am >>> > Doctor Martins are very 1980s though. You don't see as many people > wearing them as much as you used to. Well, not in the UK anyway. > Nevertheless, there are still good boots. > > Alan > > Simon Galloway wrote: > > > > You can't go wrong with Doctor Martins as far as I'm concerned, > the best boots in the world! > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:42:15 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris Ah but Jealus Guy was the band's only No.1 in the UK (I don't know what chart position it reached in other countries a the time) so they're bound to play that song even though it's not their own. Alan Heather James wrote: > > No, they CAN'T drop MOP ... > What next - no Song for Europe? > Please ... drop Jealous Guy instead! (PLEASE! > > -= )-(eather =- > >--------------------< > hjames@thewebgal.com > > MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ > MCC MidAtlantic District: http://www.mcc-midatl.org > Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ > My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------< > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > > Simon Galloway > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 5:19 AM > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris > > > > > > 80s? I don't think so! Try going back a few years further - very > > punk where I came from, then they came back hand in hand (or is > > that foot on foot?) with Converse trainers for early 90s indie > > kids. I still see loads of people wearing them, they're a > > timeless item of footwear! > > > > Anyway, getting off topic now. Dropping MOP for Dance Away? What > > a bunch of girly wusses!!! > > > > SimonG > > > > >>> "A.L. Jepson" 07/17 9:58 am >>> > > Doctor Martins are very 1980s though. You don't see as many people > > wearing them as much as you used to. Well, not in the UK anyway. > > Nevertheless, there are still good boots. > > > > Alan > > > > Simon Galloway wrote: > > > > > > You can't go wrong with Doctor Martins as far as I'm concerned, > > the best boots in the world! > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > _________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:55:02 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Jealous gut Doesn't stop it from being a turgid yawnfest though! Although I have to say that it's the best version they've ever done, TGPT gives it that kick up the arse it's been missing all these years, and it's also great for watching Chris Spedding's tongue! SimonG >>> "A.L. Jepson" 07/17 10:42 am >>> Ah but Jealus Guy was the band's only No.1 in the UK (I don't know what chart position it reached in other countries a the time) so they're bound to play that song even though it's not their own. Alan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:45:31 +0100 From: "Niki H" Subject: [AVALON] the penthouse interview thank you mysterious "dark images" for the third part,but now I cannot believe it's really him talking! Didn't they used to make up interviews in this kind of magazine? I'm stunned by his frankness,it is so unlike him to answer intimate questions like these.... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:05:14 +0100 From: "Niki H" Subject: [AVALON] to dark images I feel really stupid,that was really cruel to play such a trick.you must be the same person who inpersonated him on that horrid site. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:30:35 -0400 From: kevin brown Subject: [AVALON] THIS THURSDAY!!! Two very good seats to Camden 7/19 I have two very good seats to Roxy Music in Camden, New Jersey July 19. They are located in center orchestra section 102 Row V. I am not looking to make money, just the face value plus shipping. Email me if interested. Thanks. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:55:22 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: [AVALON] Girl of my Best Friend I just got a copy of the "Girl of My Best Friend" Japanese CD. Wow - I knew the initial songs were basically repeats from other albums, but I was mostly interested in the instrumentals Nocturne and Valentine (They sounds Fripp to me!). The live selections were also quite different than any of the other live material or boots that I have - there's a lot more 'space" in the performances. 8. A Waste land (Live) 9. Windswept (Live) 10. Boys and Girls (Live) 11. The Bogus Man (Live) 12. Ladytron (Live) 13. While My Heart is Still Beating (Live) Is there any specific info on the band or venue that material is from ... the album is dated 1993 - but I figured it wasn't necessarily from that era. - -- -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 07:58:34 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] Artist on the Avalon-list!!!! So where can we get a copy of of Oceanic Feeling? I haven't seen it at Best Buy and Wal-Mart never heard of it! Seriously though - the US fans have a tough time finding some of these obscure but interesting albums ... it took me a while to find the two Blue Nile albums that were recommended here last winter! (But it was worth it!) -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< Ton Darly wrote: > Dear Ole-Petter, > > I second your opinion: Oceanic Feeling by Christian Soetemann's group > Cryptic Scenery is a very good album. I like it very much, and > especially the tracks "My Mother Flies" and "The Chill". The album has a > warm and tender atmosphere. Anybody who likes Eno, should immediately > buy this album! > Christian is rather modest about it, but he composed the music, wrote > the (slightly cryptic) lyrics, and recorded it together with his band > Cryptic Scenery. Christian did the vocals and played several > instruments. I hope he will continue in this direction! > > Btw, my wife and I spent our holidays in your beautiful country Norway, > where we had a lot of "fjord pleasure"! The Geiranger fjord is > magnificent. And also, driving Trollstigvegen, a narrow and dangerous > road high over the mountains, above the clouds, whilst playing > Eno/Cale's "Wrong Way Up" (really!) is quite a surrealistic experience! > > Ton > > n.p. Spoon Lost In The Snow, from Oceanic Feeling by Cryptic Scenery > > > >> From: Ole-Petter Drxnen >> Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >> To: >> Subject: [AVALON] Artist on the Avalon-list!!!! >> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:57:47 +0200 >> >> This message is slightly off topic, but since it's about one of the >> better contributors on the list I choose to tell you this. >> >> Christian Soetemann is the leader of the group CRYPTIC SCENERY. I've >> got hold of their album Oceanic feeling. >> >> I must say: It's an incredibly good album. It has a very warm, nice >> athmosphere. Especially the 12 minutes long "My mother flies" which is >> just beautiful! >> It reminds me of a mixture of Roxy, Eno, Metro (anyone remember >> them?), Magazine (Burst-ish) and maybe a little of the later Cure-stuff. >> >> I would recommend it to everybody on the list. >> >> Maybe you can get it directly from Christian. >> I suggest you should all support him by buing his album! >> >> I haven't told him about this introduction / review(, so I hope it's >> OK by him). >> >> Ole >> >> np: yes, right: Cryptic scenery-Oceanic Feeling > > > _________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:25:04 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Girl of my Best Friend - ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather James To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:55 PM Subject: [AVALON] Girl of my Best Friend > 8. A Waste land (Live) > 9. Windswept (Live) > 10. Boys and Girls (Live) > 11. The Bogus Man (Live) > 12. Ladytron (Live) > 13. While My Heart is Still Beating (Live) > > Is there any specific info on the band or venue that material is from > ... the album is dated 1993 - but I figured it wasn't necessarily from > that era. This material was recorded at the Glasgow S.E.C.C. on the 10/12/88 with the following band: Bryan Ferry Vocals & Keyboards Clifford Carter Keyboards Lucio Hopper Bass Neil Hubbard Guitar Jeff Thall Guitar Andy Newmark Drums Steve Scales Percussion Mivhelle Cobbs Backing Vocals Yanick Etiene Backing Vocals Ednah Holt Backing Vocals The tracks had all previously appeared on the singles from the Taxi album. As far as I know all of the audio on the New Town video of this tour was also taken from the same Glasgow show. Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:49:07 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Girl of my Best Friend These sound like the same recording that appeared on the "Archive & Live Collection" single releases from Taxi. Which is a great collection and would be very good to have on 1 disc. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather James To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:55 PM Subject: [AVALON] Girl of my Best Friend > I just got a copy of the > > "Girl of My Best Friend" Japanese CD. > Wow - I knew the initial songs were basically repeats from other albums, > but I was mostly interested in the instrumentals Nocturne and Valentine > (They sounds Fripp to me!). > The live selections were also quite different than any of the other live > material or boots that I have - there's a lot more 'space" in the > performances. > > 8. A Waste land (Live) > 9. Windswept (Live) > 10. Boys and Girls (Live) > 11. The Bogus Man (Live) > 12. Ladytron (Live) > 13. While My Heart is Still Beating (Live) > > Is there any specific info on the band or venue that material is from > ... the album is dated 1993 - but I figured it wasn't necessarily from > that era. > > > > > > -- > -= )-(eather =- > >--------------------< > hjames@thewebgal.com > > Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ > My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------< > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:53:54 +0100 From: "dark.images" Subject: Re: [AVALON] to dark images Hi Niki no I'm not the person who impersonated him on that"horrid"site.I'm also not mysterious?my names Andy,Roxy/Ferry fan for many years the interview your reading is taken from the December 1973 issue of Penthouse whether you choose to beleave it's genuine or not is up to you,you maybe wright the interview might be bull,but I'am only sharing the interview with everyone ,OK. Well do you want the last part or not? Andy. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Niki H To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: [AVALON] to dark images > I feel really stupid,that was really cruel to play such a trick.you must be > the same person who inpersonated him on that horrid site. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:02:32 +0100 From: "Nigel Hollis" Subject: [AVALON] Tuxedo Article in today`s "Grauniad" newspaper by Charlotte Raven. Portillo`s white mischief........ " I didn`t see it, but apparently Michael Portillo wore a white dinner jacket to a function last week. The day after, readers of the Daily Telegraph could talk of nothing else. Letters were submitted with theories as to what this satorial faux pas could tell us about the leadership contender. None thought it improved his chances. No man who thinks it is OK to wear a white DJ in any context other than a diplomatic dinner in the tropics could possibly be trusted to steer the Tory party. In general I agree with the correspondents. Portillo`s jacket is problematic because it reveals a personality who thinks he has sufficient panache to carry off any departure from convention. This is a common delusion among men of a certain age and it speaks ill of Portillo that he chooses his jackets in the same spirit as Peter Stringfellow surely selects those leather trousers........." Any suggestions for Ms Raven? Ciao for now, Nigel. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:30:14 -0400 From: "Denis Smith" Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show The set list as well as a short review can be found at canoe.ca http://www.canoe.ca/JamConcertsR2Z/roxymusic_071601-sun.html - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show > I hear also that Mother of Pearl was dropped and Dance Away is in. > > ems > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:47:08 EDT From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) I've been reading a lot about how this album was better than that album-or how tracks on Siren were weak or Country Life had some bad ones. (Now don't take this as an insult or anything) but I wonder if saying this is a product of listening to the albums after the fact. What I mean is that someone gets into Roxy during Manifesto or Avalon and then goes back and gets their back catalog and says one album is weaker than another after listening to them all . All I know is that I bought every Roxy album on the day they were released (as imports) and I was never disappointed. Sure there were songs that I liked better than others-but I never considered a Roxy album weak until Manifesto-which I grew to love and certainly Flesh & Blood (which I still have trouble with). As they were released they became my favorite album of that moment and sometimes stayed that way until the next album (or the next bowie album). Of course the first 2 were the milestones because they were basically the shock of the new. But no group could sustain that type of brilliance although Roxy sure came close john ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:51:17 -0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Scorpio women >How many Scorpio women on this list? BESIDES ME, I MEAN?!?!? :-) > > >I'm another one.... > >Felicia in New York As well as me. My boyfriend likes the description an online friend gave: volatile. M _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:49:03 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] First north american show Off to the States now for the East coast tour. Good to see they've arranged a "toilet/restroom break" for us during the set. Should be able to nip out and back again during the Avalon, Dance Away, Jealous Guy segway!! See you guys there. Jocelyn - -----Original Message----- From: Denis Smith [mailto:dsmith0345@home.com] Sent: 17 July 2001 14:30 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show The set list as well as a short review can be found at canoe.ca http://www.canoe.ca/JamConcertsR2Z/roxymusic_071601-sun.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:54:15 -0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boots in Paris don't see as many people > > wearing them as much as you used to. > >A wholly good thing, IMHO. You can't imagine the horror I felt as my >beloved utilitarian shoes and boots became hideously fashionable, worn I used to live in my Docs, esp. since I used to love wearing fishnets with crazy-patterned or solid-colored tights underneath. But then I got back into plain ole black tights and wanted to wear nice shoes. M _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:40:58 -0500 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show From: Denis Smith > For those > wondering if Avalon would be back it is ( at the expense of in every dream > home a heartache from the last show in Europe. BUMMER!! I guess they feel the pressure to do the hits from the 80's. Maybe it was part of the 50 date tour contract to also do the hits in America. I haven't listened to their current show yet but I just don't see how "Avalon" fits. I suppose Bryan doesn't want to get booed for not doing Avalon. Couldn't we have all saved that one for much later in the evening;) rOd ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:48:59 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) John, you are absolutly spot on my first Roxy purchase was FYP/Pyjamarama, I then went back to the 1st one and been going forward ever since. But '72-75 were Vintage Years. Terry - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) > I've been reading a lot about how this album was better than that album-or > how tracks on Siren were weak or Country Life had some bad ones. (Now don't > take this as an insult or anything) but I wonder if saying this is a product > of listening to the albums after the fact. What I mean is that someone gets > into Roxy during Manifesto or Avalon and then goes back and gets their back > catalog and says one album is weaker than another after listening to them all > . All I know is that I bought every Roxy album on the day they were released > (as imports) and I was never disappointed. Sure there were songs that I > liked better than others-but I never considered a Roxy album weak until > Manifesto-which I grew to love and certainly Flesh & Blood (which I still > have trouble with). As they were released they became my favorite album of > that moment and sometimes stayed that way until the next album (or the next > bowie album). > > Of course the first 2 were the milestones because they were basically the > shock of the new. But no group could sustain that type of brilliance > although Roxy sure came close > > john > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:48:16 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Tuxedo In a message dated 7/17/01 8:04:12 AM, nigelhollis@europeanmarine.co.uk writes: <> Simply shows HOW MUCH cooler BF is than his contemporeries! Andrew in Chicago, where it is too humid for leather today ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:43:44 -0500 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show From: > I hear also that Mother of Pearl was dropped and Dance Away is in. > > ems For christs sake, why don't they just play all the hits in a row at the beginning. Then the casual fans can leave early... while the rest of us rush the stage for the gems. rOd ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:13:49 -0500 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] First north american show From: Denis Smith > The set list as well as a short review can be found at canoe.ca > http://www.canoe.ca/JamConcertsR2Z/roxymusic_071601-sun.html The review states they only played 90 minutes. Could someone hook them up with Springsteen's trainer? U.S. audience will be very disapointed with a 90 minute show. If they are trying to save Bryan's voice then let Phil crank out some of those wonderful instumentals from his 70's solo albums! rOd NP. Geddy Lee - My Favorite Headache PS. Yes, I'm on vacation today, that's why I'm busy emailing for a change:) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 16:28:05 +0100 From: "o-keeffeo-k8s0" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Review Birmingham Evening Mail I've finally got hold of this review. As yet it's the only one i've seen of the Birmingham shows. Sorry it's so late! All the best, Pauline. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------- Forever Young Roxy Music-NEC Around the last time Roxy Music played Birmingham,Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister, Aston Villa were winning the European Cup and Longbridge had just launched the Metro. So, for the thousands who made the pilgramage to the NEC on Saturday night,Roxy's return was like renewing contact with an old friend who had dropped out of circulation 20 years or so before. But, as the cliche goes, absence makes the heart grow fonder- and Bryan Ferry and Co proved that time had neither diminished their popularity nor their talent. The band and the audience may now be almost two decades older but the most important element of all- the music - has remained remarkably young. From the opener, Re-make Re-Model, through to encores of Love is the Drug, Do the Strand, and For Your Pleasure,Roxy showed that high calibre songs and quality musicianship will always endure. Ferry's vibrato vocals were as distinctive as ever, Phil Manzenera tore into his guitar with venom, saxman Andy Mackay hit all the right notes and underpinning it all- the Great Paul Thompson on drums. An elongated piano intro ushered in a majestic rendition of A song for Europe, In Every Dream Home a Heartache was as powerful as it was in 1973 and Virginia Plain was, well, Virginia Plain. Earlier, Roxy had turned the clock back even further with Ladytron and If There is Something from the first album, still sounding like nothing else anybody has written before or since. Best of all, the penultimate number, Editions of You- a storming slice of rock and roll memorabilia which threatened to take the roof off the cavernous arena. With no new material to promote, the whole event resembled a stroll through the years into a musical time-warp long considered to history- but with this sort of quality ,who cares? The big test now for Roxy- and particularly for Mr Ferry-is for the band to come up with a few new numbers in the mould of Editions of You or Virginia Plain. It's asking a lot, but Roxy were never destined to become a Greatest Hits band touring every few years to supplement their rock star pensions. Over to you, Bryan. Jon Griffin - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #311 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest