From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #308 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, July 16 2001 Volume 06 : Number 308 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] People Magazine Calls Rufus' Album "Exquisite" [William Som] Re: [AVALON] 1-5 Give me a Better 1-5 [William Sommers ] Re: [AVALON] Check it out ["tmoq" ] Re: [AVALON] 1-5 Give me a Better 1-5 ["tmoq" ] Re: [AVALON] People Magazine Calls Rufus' Album "Exquisite" ["Gina" ] RE: [AVALON] rhapsody devine ["Guy Lawley" ] Re: [AVALON] rhapsody devine ["anotherphotographer" ] [AVALON] A new Roxy-album released!! [Mats Andersson ] Re: [AVALON] People Magazine Calls Rufus' Album "Exquisite" [Julie Long ] [AVALON] Find The Lady [Chandla911@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:27:14 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] People Magazine Calls Rufus' Album "Exquisite" At 09:47 AM 7/15/01 -0400, Victor Hastings wrote: > gina, > > maybe you should ask manzanera to play "wild weekend" in your honor. I think we'd all be hard pressed to come up with a better reason for an addition (or three) to the set! But will the happy couple be making it to a pre-show meeting for additional lauds and embarrassment? And more importantly, will the bride's parents then be picking up the tab? -wfs ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:32:57 -0700 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1-5 Give me a Better 1-5 At 08:28 PM 7/15/01 +0100, terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > OOPS, Thats put me in my place, I won't even begin to question your MUCH > superior knowledge to mine except to take one comparison. The first thing > Roxy Music recorded was their first album, the first thing Bowie recorded > I am a Bowie fan ), was the Decca stuff, Mr Gravedigger/Laughing Gnome etc, > which takes the edge off 1-5 great albums, I think. Ah, I assure no pretension of superior knowledge to anyone here -- there are musical encyclopaedias in our midst -- more just pointing out that I think it's really all a matter of taste. I hold close to the opinion in some of those examples, others just popped into my mind. The Grateful Dead, Pink Floyd, etc. releases probably have their proponents too, but I'd not call them all "great". Most listed have long since fallen out of rotation here at KWFS (if they ever were in to begin with), with the exception of Roxy (and the occasional BAP, Kate Bush, Cale, Ramones, early Talking Heads binge), so I'd probably agree that they're the greatest timeless first 5 in my own playlist. As for Bowie... not to pick a nit, but wasn't it actually released well into his career, as the subtitle "The Early Years" of my 25-yo copy suggests? Thus all recorded earlier, but not technically one of the first five albums? Dunno personally. In any case, it remains interesting from the perspective of hearing an artist finding his musical voice (and I'm even rather fond of side 4, ITHOTM and LMSBY in particular) -- along the same lines of The Golliwogs suddenly turning into Creedence Clearwater Revival (there's another, 6 in 3 years) towards the end of their vault compilation. And I suspect nobody'd make the case for RM being disqualified if Bryan were to suddenly surprise us with a vault issue of The Gasboard. I've rambled far too far and far too much today already... -wfs ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 16:41:03 -0400 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Check it out - -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Atterbom To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Sunday, July 15, 2001 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Check it out >I wote: >>>Was it not released in 1973, or am I forgetfull? >>> >>>Great review of a great album. >> >Gene replied: > >>It was recorded in September of '73, probably hit the shelves in early '74. > >I think we have a UK release year, 1973, and a US release year, 1974. Whoa, if it did hit the shelves in '73 then that must be a world record for a legitimate record company release. That sort of blazing speed is usually found only with bootleg labels. Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 16:52:16 -0400 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1-5 Give me a Better 1-5 Good point. I`d say the Bowie comes real close, though. Gene - -----Original Message----- From: terrypaulrigz8c To: avalon@smoe.org Cc: avalon@smoe.org Date: Sunday, July 15, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: [AVALON] 1-5 Give me a Better 1-5 >I am interested to read of all the weakest track here and weakest track there, >but can ANYONE give me the name of a band/artist whose first FIVE albums, >recorded in FOUR years (take note MR FERRY), were all very nearly perfect. I >think not!. >Not to mention Four solo albums, ( I might have to be corrected on that one ). > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 16:59:44 -0400 From: "Gina" Subject: Re: [AVALON] People Magazine Calls Rufus' Album "Exquisite" > At 09:47 AM 7/15/01 -0400, Victor Hastings wrote: > > > gina, > > > > maybe you should ask manzanera to play "wild weekend" in your honor. > > I think we'd all be hard pressed to come up with a better reason for an > addition (or three) to the set! > > But will the happy couple be making it to a pre-show meeting for additional > lauds and embarrassment? And more importantly, will the bride's parents > then be picking up the tab? Well, this is the second time around for both the bride and groom, and we're both fairly senior ourselves. My parents are in no condition to pick up the tab, my father being deceased, and my mother being quite old and not all right from a mental standpoint. So, it will be a quiet affair, courthouse, and honeymoon at Merriweather, and a quiet weekend with my two kids dispatched with their father, his daughter dispatched with her grandfather and our son (Ian, who is 11 months old--it's about time we got married, eh?) sporadically left with a babysitter. If we can, we might make the pre-show gatherings, but there's a lot going on that afternoon, so we might not actually make it. - --gina ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:31:00 +0100 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: [AVALON] rhapsody devine Where does that phrase come from? At the moment, I cannot think of it. Philip ps as regards the "weakest tracks" debate, I cannot think of one Roxy/Ferry song that I would rather not hear. And never mind the "first five albums" - who can name one artist who has had nigh on 18 albums and has'nt repeated themselves? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:35:23 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] rhapsody devine Pyjamarama (boy, first time I ever had to spell that!!) isn't it? Goes something like this: Never mind, take the world by storm Just boogaloo a rhapsody divine For some odd reason the title of an old John Otway & Wild Willie Barrett album just popped into my head... "Deep and Meaningless" :O) Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Philip Adams Sent: 15 July 2001 22:31 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] rhapsody devine Where does that phrase come from? At the moment, I cannot think of it. Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:34:40 +0100 From: "anotherphotographer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] rhapsody devine I'll agree to them being all great tracks, depending on ones mood. I'll that there's been no repertition . . . . . but we've had one or two "best of's". Most may not be BF's fault. (blame EG/Poly'/Vergin) cheers young erni - ----- Original Message ----- From: Philip Adams To: Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 10:31 PM Subject: [AVALON] rhapsody devine > Where does that phrase come from? At the moment, I cannot think of it. > > Philip > > ps as regards the "weakest tracks" debate, I cannot think of one Roxy/Ferry > song that I would rather not hear. And never mind the "first five lbums" - > who can name one artist who has had nigh on 18 albums and has'nt repeated > themselves? > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 00:15:47 +0100 From: "anotherphotographer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] rhapsody devine oops!!! the third line should read I'll agree that there's no repetition . . . I'm drunk today and I never could spell - ----- Original Message ----- From: anotherphotographer To: Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] rhapsody devine > I'll agree to them being all great tracks, > depending on ones mood. > I'll that there's been no repertition . . . . . > but we've had one or two "best of's". > Most may not be BF's fault. > (blame EG/Poly'/Vergin) > cheers > young erni > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Philip Adams > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 10:31 PM > Subject: [AVALON] rhapsody devine > > > > Where does that phrase come from? At the moment, I cannot think of it. > > > > Philip > > > > ps as regards the "weakest tracks" debate, I cannot think of one > Roxy/Ferry > > song that I would rather not hear. And never mind the "first five > lbums" - > > who can name one artist who has had nigh on 18 albums and has'nt repeated > > themselves? > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 19:44:30 EDT From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1-5 Give me a Better 1-5 definately bowie starting with Hunky Dory- Dylan starting anywhere beatles also starting anywhere perhaps todd rundgren starting with runt or the ballad New Order Miles Davis for sure and without a doubt the mother of them all-Velvet Underground john ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:05:43 -0700 From: Ida M Miller Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1-5 Give me a Better 1-5 The Doors. Jads2@aol.com wrote: > > definately bowie starting with Hunky Dory- > Dylan starting anywhere > beatles also starting anywhere > perhaps todd rundgren starting with runt or the ballad > New Order > Miles Davis for sure > and without a doubt the mother of them all-Velvet Underground > john > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 01:48:43 +0200 From: Mats Andersson Subject: [AVALON] A new Roxy-album released!! Hi folks! I saw a new album on RollingStone.com *LOL* http://www.rollingstone.com/recordings/review.asp?aid=39302&cf=90 ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:59:57 EDT From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] 1-5 Give me a Better 1-5 THE BEATLES DYLAN PINK FLOYD THE DOORS THE WHO ERIC CLAPTON that's 6 and the list continues.......... eileen in Kew Gardens ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 05:11:22 +0300 From: "kari solberg" Subject: [AVALON] Psalm and performances Guy wrote: >Kari, I never said he did want to be blasphemous. >"If you are in need of help, you are allowed to have hope... if there is >something! Well put. Which is probaly why Ferry thought it was worth trying out >a song from the point of view of a true believer. After all it does start out with >the word "try"; try on your love; try out your God. ........ I'm all with you now, Guy! Actually I have never thought BF to be the great believer, although, who knows what he may think after the miraculous saving last December? THAT particular day, *I* thanked the Lord, I just HAD TO thank someone! ...and you don't know how many times I have prayed for a cab to come, when I am, as usual, late for something! ...and believe me, the cab will almost certain come,... sooner or later!...(Maybe..it's a sin what I am sayin', but it's the truth...) I much prefer the video version of Psalm, it is great! I do not find Bryan's voice fit for the gospel way of doing it on Stranded. I have decided, once and for all, I will no more try to choose my favourite album, it's simply too difficult!! Yours, Kari, still in doubt........ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:22:05 -0700 From: Julie Long Subject: Re: [AVALON] People Magazine Calls Rufus' Album "Exquisite" Gina! What a day to remember! Best wishes! Julie the happy lurker in San Francisco! Gina wrote: > > In a message dated 7/14/01 3:11:02 PM, lagrand@excite.com writes: > > > > << Today I read a review by People Mag of > > Rufus Wainwright's new album, Poses. They rate it as "exquisite." >> > > > > NPR did a review of it on "All Things Considered" last week, and they loved > > it. It is also thought highly of on the Richard Thompson list, for what it's > > worth. > > Andrew in Chicago > > Let us not forget to tell the good Avalon folk that Richard's own > progeny is likely to be playing along with Rufus. > > The weekend of the 20th is going to be memorable for me: > > On Friday, I'm supposed to: > > 1) Get Married > 2) See Roxy Music > 3) with Rufus Wainwright opening the show > 4) with Teddy Thompson in his band > > and then on Sunday: > > Eliza Carthy will be playing at the IOTA club in Arlington. > > I'm so glad I'm employed. > > --gina > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:45:06 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Find The Lady >Penthouse:Have you ever been in love? >Ferry:Sort of.Well,a couple of times I think.Once when I was at school.This >silly schoolboy crush that lasted a year or so and then just a few years >ago,just after the time I graduated,and that,must of lasted a couple of >years. >Penthouse:Did you find it difficult to get over afterwards? >Ferry:It's difficult to talk about that one because I still see the person now >but on different terms.Obviously time does heal old wounds. >Penthouse:Can you have a very passionate affair and then go on and be friends >afterwards? >Ferry:I find it a very difficult situation.But in this case.obviously it was >very difficult because we were so incredibly close.you see,because it was a >relationship on lots of different levels and I was very broken up,but I >generally prefer that.That's my attitude.Once a love affair is over it's over >forever and I'd rather not see that person again. Who sees Brian Eno in this description? ;-) Richard n/p This Is Roxy Music - Glasgow ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #308 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest