From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #305 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, July 14 2001 Volume 06 : Number 305 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Re: Soaps,Dr. Who ["Guy Lawley" ] RE: [AVALON] Psalm and performances ["Guy Lawley" ] Re: [AVALON] DC/Merriweather Post meetup suggestions? [KB Porter ] RE: [AVALON] DC/Merriweather Post meetup suggestions? [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) [Aleks Kocan ] [AVALON] Ferrystalking [Betsy Fowler ] R: [AVALON] explicit? ["the bogus man" ] [AVALON] Re: DC/Merriweather Post meet up ["Linda Epstein" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Soaps,Dr. Who Here's the answer for those wondering where they might get to see the Father Ted epidode guset-starring Father Brian Eno! PBS. Saturdays, 11pm. Happy viewing! Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of M.M.K. Sent: 13 July 2001 18:43 To: Avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Re: Soaps,Dr. Who Lee, here in the US we do get a Lot of the British comedy's. I love them. Dr. Who & the Red Dwarf series is shown late usually on Sat. nights. It's on PBS . Also enjoying Father Ted, it comes on about 11pm also on Sat. I'm still amused watching Blackadder. Borik is quite a character. Marlana....................................... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:47:54 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Psalm and performances Thanks, Kari. This quote pretty much nails where BF was, faith-wise, in 1994 at least. (He seems to be saying he has faith in memory and DNA!) Since he was talking to a Daily Mail journalist, he probably didn't want to say anything that would alienate their conservative readership! In that well-known long pause before a Ferry answer, his mind may have been ticking over something like this: "Admit to not being a Christian... album sales among Mail readers down a good 30 per cent..." Maybe we need to approach Psalm from a David Byrne-esque point of view. Byrne was always reminding us that a song can be written from the POV of another person, not always a "confessional" or statement of belief from the author. So, Ferry imagines himself into the role of a true Christian believer facing his own death, and Psalm is the result. By extension: on Stranded the song is taken, and performed, at face value; on Musikladen, a somewhat different angle is taken; a playful, ironic reading of the song is given, and Ferry reveals quite openly that it is not to be taken seriously as a statement of any deep conviction of his own. By extension of that, it is an ironic and playful act to have given the song such a straight reading on Stranded! He must have known it would confound expectations among many of his listeners. On the other hand, since Stranded was the album when the band was shooting for a more commercial level of success (a more mainstream, less avant garde approach) the pop-ambitious Ferry may have felt projecting a religious-believer image couldn't hurt with his projected new mainstream audience. These notions are not mutually exclusive, especially given the multi-levelled enigma that is Bryan Ferry. Of course, it could also have had something to do with the chemical environment in which his brain cells were swimming on any given day! Yours in the Lord Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of kari solberg Sent: 14 July 2001 06:59 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Psalm and performances Andrew, I agree with you... I don't think Bryan ever wanted to be blasphemous... In YOU magazine,1994, August 21: "I've always liked the idea of religion because I like the ceremony. It's a mysterious thing and they should keep the ritual, it's part of the beauty of it. I would like to believe, buy I don't think I have faith. Not yet. But I like to think that my parents are around me and I certainly feel very strong memories of them when I'm in my house or garden. I can see the spirir of my father in my children". ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:36:31 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Psalm and performances On 14 Jul 2001, at 8:58, kari solberg quoted BF: > I've always liked the idea of religion because I like the ceremony. > It's a mysterious thing and they should keep the ritual, it's part of > the beauty of it. ISTR Eno commenting in an interview quite a while ago that, with the passing of the mass in Latin in the Catholic Church, much of the mystery surrounding the ritual had gone, it wasn't special any more. David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 13:32:14 +0100 From: "Bryan O Connor" Subject: Re: [AVALON] CD-tree / trade Hi folks, Ive made a double CDR of the BBC Top Of The Pops 2 show. CD1 = the 6 audio tracks recorded live for the show. CD2 = The TOTP show on vcd. Sounds very good. I want to trade a few copies for one of the recent live shows on cd if anyone is interested. I'm also on the look out for any cds of the mamouna tour. mail me privately. I attach a pic of the cover. regards Bryan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Han Snijders" To: Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 10:08 PM Subject: [AVALON] CD-tree volunteers > I made a cd-r of the new live songs performed at the the top of the pop > last week-. > With a lot of cut and paste and mixing I was able to let it sound as one > performance and I fixed the missing intro of jealous guy. Sound quality is > excellent. > > VP, LITD,OOTB,JG,DTS. > > Volunteers to make copies for : > USA/Canada, > UK, > Europe > Rest of the world > contact me off list > > announcement how to order, end of the week. > > I will make about 20 copies but please wait with your order until it's clear > who's going to burn them. > > Han > > > > > . > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of bfrmtotp.gif] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:00:18 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] DC/Merriweather Post meetup suggestions? The Last Chance Saloon is fine with me! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:15:55 -0400 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] DC/Merriweather Post meetup suggestions? The Last Chance Saloon is where? On the Lake? In the Mall? -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ MCC MidAtlantic District: http://www.mcc-midatl.org Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > KB Porter > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 9:00 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] DC/Merriweather Post meetup suggestions? > > > The Last Chance Saloon is fine with me! > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 15:23:10 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: RE: [AVALON] DC/Merriweather Post meetup suggestions? At 09.15 -0400 1-07-14, Heather James wrote: > The Last Chance Saloon is where? >On the Lake? In the Mall? http://www.lastchancesaloon.com/ gives 5888 A Robert Oliver Place With Over 50 World Class Beers, Columbia, MD 21045 We're Never Tapped Out! Phone: 410-730-5656 Check out our new crab cake specials on Wednesdays! Just $5 for a sandwich and $10 for a platter! Tuesday night fun! Karaoke in the bar 8:30 pm - 11:30 pm !!! Now is it a Tuesday? Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:53:00 -0400 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] DC/Merriweather Post meetup suggestions? Thanks Daniel! See you there! Ah ... its EAST Columbia ... between Rt. 29 and 95 ... The Post Pavilion is just to the West of Rt.29 The wonders of the planned Community ... FROM Interstate 95: Take Route 32 West (Exit 38B) to Broken Land Parkway, North. Make a right at the fourth light, Stevens Forest Road. Right on Robert Oliver Place to the Oakland Mills Village Center. The Last Chance is on the left as you face the center (Metro Food Market is on the right). FROM Rte 29: Take Broken Land Parkway East to a left at the first light (get over quickly) on Steven Forest Road. Follow directions above. FROM Interstate 70: Take Rte 29 South towards Columbia. Take Rte 175 East (towards Jessup) to a right at the first light - Thunder Hill Road. Go through two stop signs and take a right after passing Columbia Ice Rink and park in the lot in front of Metro Food Market. -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ MCC MidAtlantic District: http://www.mcc-midatl.org Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Daniel Atterbom > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 9:23 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] DC/Merriweather Post meetup suggestions? > > > At 09.15 -0400 1-07-14, Heather James wrote: > > The Last Chance Saloon is where? > >On the Lake? In the Mall? > > http://www.lastchancesaloon.com/ gives > > 5888 A Robert Oliver Place With Over 50 World Class Beers, > Columbia, MD 21045 We're Never Tapped Out! > Phone: 410-730-5656 > > Check out our new crab cake specials on Wednesdays! Just $5 for a > sandwich and $10 for a platter! > > Tuesday night fun! Karaoke in the bar 8:30 pm - 11:30 pm !!! > > Now is it a Tuesday? > > Daniel > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 07:34:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: [AVALON] Stranded/Psalm The two tracks that dont fit on the Stranded album are Psalm and Amazona Serenade is a great track and is often overlooked. In my opinion, the Roxy album that really flows from start to finish is Siren  no duff tracks on that one. But peoples tastes changes over time  I never really liked Re-make/Re-model until I saw it played live Aleks the one-handed typist (broken arm) in Manchester, UK Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:39:09 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: RE: [AVALON] DC/Merriweather Post meetup suggestions? At 09.53 -0400 1-07-14, Heather James wrote: > Thanks Daniel! See you there! Sorry, I can't make it. We're getting a new puppy on Tuesday. NP More Than This. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:46:41 -0400 From: kevin brown Subject: [AVALON] Two very good seats to Camden 7/19 I have two very good seats to Roxy Music in Camden, New Jersey July 19. They are located in center orchestra section 102 Row V. I am not looking to make money, just the face value plus shipping. Email me if interested. Thanks. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:51:15 EDT From: Artman1@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) I've always liked She Sells. It would be hard for me to come up with a track off of Siren that I don't care for. I guess if I had to, I'd probably say Sentimental Fool, but She Sells is a strong track on that disc for me. Art In a message dated 7/13/01 6:38:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, roxylia@freemail.it writes: > On Siren I've always liked particularly She Sells, though I know not many > love this song. why? > I won't feel offended. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:54:06 -0400 (EDT) From: jason and jill Subject: [AVALON] Forwarded mail.... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:30:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Kosmo Reply-To: kosmo@micropop.net To: jgreshes@netaxs.com Jason, There is currently a discount of $10 dollars being offered for tickets to Roxy Music shows through the Ticketmaster site. It's available from July 5th to 20th. I took me awhile to find the password, but find it I did. Since one of the places I looked for the password was in the Avalon archives, I thought it was only fair to share it with the listmembers. Since I already get more than my fair share of email, I was hoping you could pass this information on to the list for me. The ticket discount is called the World Class Rock Offer and can be found when you get to the ordering page on ticketmaster. The Roxy Music Special Offer password is "Avalon" (very appropriate) and you need to enter the number of tickets in the World Class Rock Offer box. So far I've checked the password for the DC and Detroit shows. I ordered tickets with for the DC show. Here is the link where I found the password. http://www.kfog.com/contests/Roxy/roxy_offer.html I hope this is of great use to the members of the Avalon list. Chris Ruffner Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 09:52:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) > Artman1@aol.com wrote: > It would be hard for me to come up with a track > off of Siren that I don't care for. I agree - I think that Siren is the one Roxy album that does flow all the way from start to finish. I've always liked "whirlwind" - a track that's sometimes overlooked..... Aleks Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:20:35 -0500 From: "Jeff Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Stranded, Siren, etc. I like "She Sells" and "Just Like You" also! And "Serenade" is one of my favorites on "Stranded." Of course, it's hard to pick a favorite from "Stranded." To me, it's probably Roxy's overall strongest album. The only song I don't like on it, and I mean really don't like, is, ahem, "Psalm." It gets worse....I just don't think Bryan's voice was meant to sing gospel, or faux-gospel, or however you would characterize this. Further evidence? "Amazing Grace" on "Taxi." The instrumental introduction of that song is amongst my favorite 10-or-20 second instrumental bits on any recording Ferry has ever been on. But as soon as he opens his mouth, I hit the track advance button. I'm sorry! With all proper humility, Jeff _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:11:28 -0700 From: Betsy Fowler Subject: [AVALON] Ferrystalking Martino the Stalkerman is imaginative but he would never manufacture such a story. He's a charmer so he leads a charmed life, and Ferry just pops into the frame for him, even now and again. I believe he also did a Spot of impromptu Ferryspotting not long ago in a Pret-`-Manger somewhere near London Bridge..... This news about non-matching jacket and trou's is very worrying indeed. Worse than the polka-dot scarf, or perhaps that one was OK, can't picture it very well. Cheers Martin, Betsy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:42:17 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: R: [AVALON] explicit? > to turn you on. > > > > Cecilia in Venice, Italy CPL593H!!!!!! dadadadanilo in RA italy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 15:57:52 -0400 From: "Linda Epstein" Subject: [AVALON] Re: DC/Merriweather Post meet up Ok, with the show starting at 7:30, there's no way I can make it for a pre-meet up outside the venue. My apologies in advance but as my brother tells me, sucks to be employed. I'm happy to meet all by the second stage behind the concession stand. It really is a nice tree by it . Friends I'm with will need to get home to relieve the babysitter (something I don't have to worry about just yet) so I'm not sure about a post-gathering. Oh hell- let's just get Bryan to announce during the show "Could all Avalonians stand up and be counted?" Linda ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 13:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Maggie Curran Subject: [AVALON] People Magazine Calls Rufus' Album "Exquisite" Hello All: It's getting almost impossible to concentate on anything as Roxy will be ours in North America on Monday. Today I read a review by People Mag of Rufus Wainwright's new album, Poses. They rate it as "exquisite." Here are just a few lines from the review: "Death and despair never sounded so good. A pop romantic with Byronic ambition, Wainwright fills his songs with impressive wordplay and literary allusions. And he sings them with enough ennui to make Tori Amos sound like a cheerleader....Rufus' rapier writing, rich melodies and voice full of dark, autumnal texture allow you to forgive the measured melancholia of his Poses." Sounds good to me! Best wishes to everyone out there on your respective Big Nights. Roxy Rule! Maggie lagrand@excite.com _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:39:37 -0400 From: Rick Subject: RE: [AVALON] People Magazine Calls Rufus' Album "Exquisite" Who gives a crap about Rufus, Dufus or otherwise. Bring on Roxy Music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Wahoo!!!!!!!!!!!! - -----Original Message----- From: Maggie Curran [SMTP:lagrand@excite.com] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 4:02 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] People Magazine Calls Rufus' Album "Exquisite" Hello All: It's getting almost impossible to concentate on anything as Roxy will be ours in North America on Monday. Today I read a review by People Mag of Rufus Wainwright's new album, Poses. They rate it as "exquisite." Here are just a few lines from the review: "Death and despair never sounded so good. A pop romantic with Byronic ambition, Wainwright fills his songs with impressive wordplay and literary allusions. And he sings them with enough ennui to make Tori Amos sound like a cheerleader....Rufus' rapier writing, rich melodies and voice full of dark, autumnal texture allow you to forgive the measured melancholia of his Poses." Sounds good to me! Best wishes to everyone out there on your respective Big Nights. Roxy Rule! Maggie lagrand@excite.com _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:50:22 EDT From: Artman1@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) That's always been one of my favorites. Definitely a rockin' tune! In a message dated 7/14/01 1:00:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, aleks50@yahoo.com writes: > I've always liked "whirlwind" - a track that's ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 22:14:28 +0100 From: "dark.images" Subject: [AVALON] Penthouse erection..part 1 Just came across this interesting interview with BF(no pun intended) from a 1973 issue of Penthouse, well..half an issue so Iam afraid the last part of the interview is missing...... Enjoy.. Penthouse:Your success has happenend very recently,in the last couple of years.what were you doing before that? Ferry:I stayed on at university and got my degree and moved to London.I had a semi-professional at college and I wasn't writing any songs then.I was just doing other peoples stuff.It was a very good band and they went professional but decided to give it up for a while and get my degree sorted out. All the time I was wanting to get back into music somehow.It was the best way of expressing myself. So I started writing songs and I started to learn to play the piano which was the most important thing. I taught myself gradually over a couple years.Then at the same time we were forming Roxy Music and making tapes and I took them round all the record companies and was turned down by them all.But then Melody Maker wrote a good piece about them and John Peel had us in to do a studio session for his radio programme.those were the two big breaks. I often think,I wonder if I would have carried on if the first album had flopped,you know?Maybe I would.I just had so many ideas of things I wanted to do in music,apart from simple words and tunes-things like complimentaries of sounds and so on- if only I had the power to do it.like have a group and a studio to do it in.Its what I wanted to do and thats why the music,when the first album came out,was such a hit.Everybody else had thought the same way.They wanted something new to happen in music.I was very lucky that I managed to do it really. Penthouse:How did you support yourself before the big break? Ferry:Odd jobs.I did some teaching at a girls school it was quite a rough girls school but I had a fairly easy time when you think about it.I was the only guy there and I was quite young and I just use to bring a record player into the class and they'd all their records and we had quite a good party time.If they wanted to work they could.If they didnt want to work then they didnt have to really. Penthouse:Was it ever embarrassing? Ferry:Well it was at first ,yes,but once they were into it,it was very much easier.They'd test you out over the first few weeks,you know,they'd say lots of rude things to see how you react to it.I cant remember exactly now but they'd say things with double meanings,you know and howl with laughter and I'd pretend I hadn't noticed . Penthouse:You've never been attracted to schoolgirls? Ferry:Well,I could,if the girl was all right.But it's more of a fantasy thing.I imagine,for most people,than a real thing.I think when your confronted with it on a work basis like that it doesn't have that kind of appeal,not at half past nine in the morning in those dreadful old brown tiled buildings.I never actually had any of the girls slip down into the basement with me.I rember when I was at school I use to be quite turned on by the girls in their gymslips,in their little tunics and so on,but maybe this dosn't infer that I fancied them.I think that quite often it's like a really beautiful model girl dressed up as a schoolgirl which is really the sexiest thing rather than a spotty bird....part 2 comming soon. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 15:45:21 -0400 From: "Peter Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) I guess I'll get some people mad again, but I've always considered Siren to be Roxy's most uneven album by far. I never liked LITD or Just Another High. I love Sentimental Fool and End of the Line, but the rest seems like filler. BEB is much better on Viva. Pete - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) > That's always been one of my favorites. Definitely a rockin' tune! > > In a message dated 7/14/01 1:00:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > aleks50@yahoo.com writes: > > > > I've always liked "whirlwind" - a track that's > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 17:43:27 -0400 From: "Linda Epstein" Subject: [AVALON] From the Philly Inquirer... ^BC-ROXYMUSIC:PH _ entertainment@ ^British art rock band touring for the first time in 18 years@ By Tom Moon Knight Ridder Newspapers (KRT) Several weeks ago, on the first day of rehearsals for the Roxy Music reunion tour, Bryan Ferry deliberated out loud about the best way to perform the songs of his much beloved (and long missing) British art-rock band: Exactly the way they were recorded, or with lots of new embellishments, extra solos, all the contemporary bells and whistles? "Sometimes it's nice to recreate note by note the record," the 55-year-old singer said thoughtfully, explaining that he and the others were "blowing the cobwebs off everything" and re-learning 40 or so vintage songs they had chosen for the tour. "It's good for someone who loved those records and hasn't heard them in a long time. To us doing an exact recreation isn't a vulgar thing _ you can honor the songs that way. But at the same time it'll be exciting to expand the songs a bit. Since it'll be the original people who played on the records, it could be interesting to see where they'll go." For this trek, which marks the 30th aniversary of the band's inception, Ferry and the other musicians are actually happy to be focusing on vintage Roxy Music, particularly the material from such inventive albums as "For Your Pleasure" (1973), which Ferry says is his personal favorite, and "Avalon" (1982). It's the band's first tour in 18 years, and, says guitarist Phil Manzanera, part of what enticed the musicians to return was that there was no pressure to develop new material. "The offer was for a limited time frame, and it would be a celebration of Roxy," he says. "It's good there's no new material, because everyone can just relax. The fans are not going to have new stuff foisted on them. ... And the musicians can concentrate on coming to the songs with a fresh perspective." The fans don't expect anything less: In its "70s heyday, Roxy Music's songs represented some of the freshest thinking in rock. Combining the squiggled keyboard textures of Brian Eno (who left after two albums) with Manzanera's needling guitar and Ferry's perpetually weary voice, the band made music that aspired to cool, austere art without any of the pretension that later engulfed art-rock. The phrases of 1975's "Siren" _ the album that contains the band's biggest radio hit, "Love Is the Drug" _ offered plenty of hooks, but hooks that traveled in weird irregular orbits, and presaged the British new wave of the early "80s. By 1982's austere masterpiece "Avalon," the more forthright rock rhythms had been replaced by eerie, sumptuous drones that made Ferry's harmonies seem otherworldly. Ferry, who credits a tour he did last year to support his torch song collection "As Time Goes By" with helping him warm to a Roxy reunion, says that the "Avalon" material represents a particular challenge: "That record has such its own atmosphere, it almost needs to be presented as a little suite. It would be nice to do that. And I know people want to try "More Than This.' We've never played that live." And though he's nearing completion on his next solo project _ which he describes as a "real rock record with lots of guitars" _ Ferry doesn't rule out recording with his old band. "We all agreed to just focus on the tour right now. If we're still speaking after Sept. 30, then we'll talk about it." X X X (c) 2001, The Philadelphia Inquirer. Visit Philadelphia Online, the Inquirer's World Wide Web site, at http://www.philly.com/ Distributed by Knight Ridder/Tribune Information Services. Linda ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 18:44:25 EDT From: Artman1@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) Pete, Are you sure you're a Roxy Music fan? :-) In a message dated 7/14/01 5:36:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, seely31@home.com writes: > I guess I'll get some people mad again, but I've always considered Siren to > be Roxy's most uneven album by far. I never liked LITD or Just Another High. > I love Sentimental Fool and End of the Line, but the rest seems like filler. > BEB is much better on Viva. > > Pete ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 17:32:39 -0400 From: "Peter Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) Oh yes, I'm a Roxy fan. The first four albums and Viva are nearly flawless. I highly doubt I'm the only one who thinks that Siren was a bit of a dropoff from those other records. Pete - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) > Pete, > > Are you sure you're a Roxy Music fan? :-) > > In a message dated 7/14/01 5:36:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, seely31@home.com > writes: > > > > I guess I'll get some people mad again, but I've always considered Siren to > > be Roxy's most uneven album by far. I never liked LITD or Just Another High. > > I love Sentimental Fool and End of the Line, but the rest seems like filler. > > BEB is much better on Viva. > > > > Pete > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 00:29:26 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) On 14 Jul 2001, at 15:45, Peter Seely wrote: > BEB is much better on Viva. > I'm really glad we can agree on this, Peter! David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 19:59:42 EDT From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] mail, reece and other things I've been away for the past 2 weeks and come back to more than 900 emails from avalon!!! This list is truly alive now that the boys are touring I also came home to a few roxy cds in the mail (live totp2 el ferranti-and the glasgow bbc show-as well as the officials Manzanera/Mackay 2cd complete explorers and the newly remastered 801 live in manchester)-along with the roxy stuff ia also received the japanese Jason Falkner 2cd demo set (with cover of Burning Airlines Gives You So Much More) and a 2 cd demos/rarities of Graham Parker and the new Super Furry Animals 45. In addition to all this neat stuff and the fact that roxy is in 1 week and 2 days I also received Reecey's 2 Roxy tapes. I've just spent some time watching all of "Penthouse Perfection" and I've had the following random thoughts: Reecey-thank you so much for a job well done-you've outdone yourself this time. I was walking down memory lane with roxy and couldn't help thinking how truly weird they must have seemed to people watching them in 1972-I loved them-but they certainly looked like aliens. how femme was brian eno in his feather outfit? ferry was the true drama queen in the beginning. but he was so beautiful in 1972 and looks just as good if not better in later years-this guy doesn't get older. andy mackay was one of the coolest people on the planet-I remember i wanted to BE him. I streaked my hair like on the inside of For Your Pleasure-when I needed a fake name it was always Andrew Mackay. Bryan certainly let himelf be talked into some weird tv situations-singing with cilla black and especially the twiggy show was hysterical. I loved the Sirens.-but bryan should not have been wearing that eyepatch (and should never never have any facial hair whatsoever) The first post-Pual Thompson drummer on Trash (?) was scary looking. the Bass player was just a little new wave-ish for me. John Wetton is a perfect fit bass player for Roxy. After Manifesto i considered roxy dead (more or less)-I am not a fan of Flesh & Blood (never bought it until the recent reissues) and Avalon left me cold. To me they were Ferry solo albums with Manzanera/Mackay backing him up. That's not a bad thing necessarily-just not roxy. Because of this much on the tapes from that era is new to me. Chris Spedding with his Flying V and leather jacket and DA haircut is a member of the coolest people on the planet club. (reminded me of seeing the Let's Stick Together/In Your Mind tour at the Bottom Line with Talking Heads-one of the best shows I've ever seen). How Lucy Wilkens is very very hot-and the looks she gives at the end of her Out of the Blue solo is very naughty. How the As Time Goes By back-up was the least expected but very possibly the best ferry solo band. The aforementioned LST/IYM band (come one Spedding & Manzanera together at that time?) IS the best-but the more I watch and listen to the ATGB tour the better they sound. (not even going into how sexy it is to have a bevy of young blondes playing instruments traditionally linked with classical music-going so wild with rock songs-and looking great doing it) Lastly-when watching roxy's first TOTP in 1972 and thinking I was 16 at the time. That was almost 30 years ago. That would be like having my 16 year old self watching something from 1932 and being amazed. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Roxy was so far ahead of its time that we still haven't caught up. That's why that NME quote is so perfect: "almost 20 years after roxy broke up they're still the sound of the future". One more week to the future Thanks again reecey John ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 01:03:43 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Seely To: Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Siren (was Serenade/Psalm/bum tracks) > I highly doubt I'm the only one who thinks that Siren was a bit of a dropoff > from those other records. I'll agree with you on that point. Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #305 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest