From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #297 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, July 10 2001 Volume 06 : Number 297 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] WOW WOW WOW!!!! ["Mary Tomlinson" ] [AVALON] Duchamp the Postman arrives - shock horror! [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] ....i write this letter... ["the bogus man" ] Re: RE: [AVALON] La Mariee Mise A Nu Par Ses Celibataires, Meme [Colleen ] Re: [AVALON] Picture of Paul backstage ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] length of show ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: RE: [AVALON] La Mariee Mise A Nu Par Ses Celibataires, Meme [Heather ] Re: [AVALON] OT: DM [BPhilipson@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Colleen [Heather Buch ] Re: [AVALON] length of show [Heather James ] Re: [AVALON] length of show [Avalon887@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] length of show ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Colleen [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] OT: DM ["C. H. Soetemann" ] Re: [AVALON] La Mariee Mise A Nu Par Ses Celibataires, Meme ["C. H. Soete] RE: [AVALON] Bloody Videos ["Denise Firman" ] [AVALON] Best bootleg? [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] 2 tickets for 7/30 Chicago show [Ryan Mullen ] Re: [AVALON] OT: TDC ["M. Taylor" ] Re: [AVALON] Colleen [Richard Evans ] [AVALON] 5 tickets available for Atlanta show on 7/26 [Artman1@aol.com] [AVALON] THIS IS ROXY MUSIC ["Ed Stobbelaar" ] Re: RE: [AVALON] La Mariee Mise A Nu Par Ses Celibataires, Meme ["David S] Re: [AVALON] THIS IS ROXY MUSIC ["Ferdinand Biesheuvel" ] [AVALON] Test,PLEASE DELETE [stevesiren2 ] Re: Re: [AVALON] La Mariee Mise A Nu Par Ses Celibataires, Meme [Heather ] [AVALON] Living In The Material World [stevesiren2 Subject: [AVALON] WOW WOW WOW!!!! Zu DANILO,MILANO,ITALIANO!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SWELL DARIO ARGENTO "SUSPIRIA" insert poster!! THIS IS REALLY A VALUABLE PIECE!!! LOVEI didn't experience RM in the 70's when they were more fringe, so >I don't know if they were as unconventional as Duchamp was in >the 10's. I have a feeling that they weren't, that they weren't >any more shocking than was apporpriate for a pop band. They were >also too late for the shocking moment in music (hell, I guess >that would make Elvis more Duchampian than RM). Too late for THE shocking moment in music? Which one was this? Didn't RM prefigure punk, Madonna and dear ol' Eminem? I think Roxy have always had too much subtlety, style and elegance to feel shock was necessary in their armoury. BTW Reecey, on the subject of shock, my videos safely arrived in the home counties on Monday (although clearly postmarked Thursday) and you have surpassed yourself. Absolutely brilliant! No matter how long the wait (like the Roxy shows have proved), some things are worth it... enjoy your USA sojourn! Richard Mills n/p Grant's latest tree CD - all my Xmases has come at once! Anyone in UK wanting to get the latest branch, BF in Tokyo, e-mail me offlist... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:23:36 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: [AVALON] ....i write this letter... U deserve more than a kingdome Re-ecey!! :-)))))))))) Cassettes are already in Italy too Got them saturday thanx a lot :-)))) danilo hope to see U in MILANO > ... and I've just heard copies have already arrived in > Spain too !... > > Reecey... > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:34:39 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: R: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V6 #293 Same in italian without the "H" of couse since we silly italian cannot pronounce that SOUND It's just the reason why it's a big effort for me tryingt to translate all this ava-loners stuff LOL EMEROTECA DAN :-) Roberto el Muerto? > Hemeroteca in spanish is a magazine archive , instead of Biblioteca > (Library) that is > a book library. > > cheers, > Roberto > (Back from the dead) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:44:09 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: [AVALON] I'M FOR LIFE AROUND THE Claes Oldenburg's Manifesto (pt 1) At last some art interested people in this forum :-)))))))) dan of arc (hitecture) > Thanks Han (and Heather) > Seems the people on this list sometimes share more than an interest in > Roxy/Ferry. > I am a voluntary art gallery guide at the National Gallery of Australia and > I admire Oldenburg's brilliant vinyl 'Leopard Chair' (1963) whenever I am on > duty. > Shelley ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:54:41 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: [AVALON] Madionna MIA Virgo santissima LOL > Too late for THE shocking moment in music? Which one was this? Didn't RM > prefigure punk, Madonna and dear ol' Eminem? I think Roxy have always had too > much subtlety, style and elegance to feel shock was necessary in their > armoury. Richard Mills I hope u r teasing buddy!! I'm italian I know it doesn't matter but i think Madonna is the shame of the boot_shaped country!! LOL pure shit in JP Gaultier mises OOHH poor Argentina I think u can cry for Urself still LOL music is not hopping up on a stage btw bye danny letterSman :-))) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:07:42 -0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: DM >Looks like DM only did 2 songs from their first SIX albums. Imagine >if Roxy >had that policy... We'd be out of our shows real quick? ;P On a side note - I'm on the mailing list for The Divine Comedy and they covered a Roxy Music song during some of their shows in May. I don't remember which song. >Does Hotmail ever work properly BTW? It seems to have a kind of It works for me. It's down once in awhile. M - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:08:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] La Mariee Mise A Nu Par Ses Celibataires, Meme On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Heather Buch wrote: > This is certainly true. Duchamp was on the fringes of culture and > didn't really care whether or not he was let "in." Of course, in > avant-garde style, his fringe became dead center. I didn't experience > RM in the 70's when they were more fringe, so I don't know if they > were as unconventional as Duchamp was in the 10's. I have a feeling > that they weren't, that they weren't any more shocking than was > apporpriate for a pop band. They were also too late for the shocking > moment in music (hell, I guess that would make Elvis more Duchampian > than RM). But neither Roxy nor Duchamp, in their respective contexts, were on the fringe. In fact, both were pretty famous in their own right, Roxy certainly throughout the UK and parts of Europe (the context in this case) and Duchamp throughout, well, the world. The disconnect between high and popular culture was nowhere near as great back then as it is now. It wasn't just the snooty crowd profiled monthly in _Vogue_ or _W_ (you know, where we in the US find our photos of Lucy Ferry) that went to art openings--the 1913 Armory Show in New York that made Duchamp a celebrity for the painting that shocked New York ("Nude Descending A Staircase") was a widely mixed crowd who didn't feel art was only for the rarefied few. Sometimes I think we tend to think how things are is how things always were, but back in 1912, at the very infancy of our homogenized, suffocating, lowest common denominator, mass culture, paradoxically there were more "entertainment" choices available and open to a wider group of people. (Yes, you still have "blockbuster" museum shows now, but those often betray a "top 40" mentality. And I digress. As usual.) But to say that both Roxy and Duchamp were making their living on the fringes of culture I think is an overstatement and underestimates their contributions to music and art, respectively. Also since I'm here, I'd also have to say--and I'd argue the same parallel with Ferry's originals vs. covers--Duchamp's "ready-mades" were only a small part of his interesting artistic output. Certainly "Nude Descending A Staircase" and his later assemble works (amongst the "The Bride Stripped Bare...") are the truly interesting and provocative works which made such indulgence as the ready-mades possible only after he'd become so famous and his signature so valuable. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:14:13 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Picture of Paul backstage >>> "Strimples" 07/02 7:49 am >>> > Does Paul ever smile? YES! You'll see the biggest, massive cheeky grin as he laps up his applause at the end of FYP. Cheshire cat doesn't even come close! SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:26:39 -0400 From: Heather Buch Subject: [AVALON] length of show For logistical reasons, I'm trying to guage exactly how long the concert will last. If it's scheduled to start at 8:00, any estimations on when it will be over? THANKS! Heather ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:38:13 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] length of show It's about 100 minutes so you should be out before 10pm. Leaves enough time for a coco before bed! SimonG >>> Heather Buch 07/10 2:26 pm >>> For logistical reasons, I'm trying to guage exactly how long the concert will last. If it's scheduled to start at 8:00, any estimations on when it will be over? THANKS! Heather ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:41:01 -0400 From: Heather Buch Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] La Mariee Mise A Nu Par Ses Celibataires, Meme ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - ---- On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Colleen Matan (cjem@his.com) wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Heather Buch wrote: > > > > This is certainly true. Duchamp was on the fringes of culture and > > didn't really care whether or not he was let "in." Of course, in > > avant-garde style, his fringe became dead center. I didn't experience > > RM in the 70's when they were more fringe, so I don't know if they > > were as unconventional as Duchamp was in the 10's. I have a feeling > > that they weren't, that they weren't any more shocking than was > > apporpriate for a pop band. They were also too late for the shocking > > moment in music (hell, I guess that would make Elvis more Duchampian > > than RM). > > > But neither Roxy nor Duchamp, in their respective contexts, were on the > fringe. In fact, both were pretty famous in their own right, Roxy > certainly throughout the UK and parts of Europe (the context in this > case) > and Duchamp throughout, well, the world. The disconnect between high > and > popular culture was nowhere near as great back then as it is now. It > wasn't just the snooty crowd profiled monthly in _Vogue_ or _W_ (you > know, > where we in the US find our photos of Lucy Ferry) that went to art > openings--the 1913 Armory Show in New York that made Duchamp a celebrity > for the painting that shocked New York ("Nude Descending A Staircase") > was > a widely mixed crowd who didn't feel art was only for the rarefied few. Even now, anyone can go to art openings, but not "anyone" does, so I think you are right. However, I tend to agree with Clement Greenberg (Avant-Garde and Kitsch) that it was only the snooty, educated elite that understood and appreciated modern art. The rest may have seen it, and I believe that in the case of the armory show, they went to gawk. But gawking isn't the same as enjoying. I think that a lot of what the uneducated masses patronized back then was a form of mass culture - vaudeville, penny arcades, Soviet Realism, trashy novels, etc. I still don't know whether or not Roxy was really really big in the 70's. It seems to me that more people were fans of Led Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones, and that Roxy never reached the popularity of these bands, but I may be wrong. Heather ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:42:03 EDT From: BPhilipson@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: DM I don't think we'd be too upset if they were supporting a new album! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:46:08 -0400 From: Heather Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] Colleen I've always understood this song as a sort of early modernist quest for truth or the meaning of life. To me, it has a very heavy, almost Tolstoy-Russian novel sort of feeling. It reminds me of Levin's search for meaning in life (in Anna Karenina), first amongst the peasantry, then amongst the party crowd in Moscow (of course, Bryan probably would have run off with Anna). It also reminds me of The Unbearable Lightness of Being, or My Twentieth Century (two of my favorite movies), searching for meaning amongst the rubble of modernist European revolutions, scientific or political. Heather ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag - ---- On Mon, 09 Jul 2001, Eman 97 (eman97@hotmail.com) wrote: > Gee, Colleen, quite Roxy of you... > > ...If It Takes All Night. > > >Oh here it comes again > >That old ennui > >I hope it won4t stay long > Well it4s every-man to his own thing > And every singer to his song > If you4re feeling low > And all upset > Nothing's going right > You just make a wish > Like in a fairy tale > >And I4ll bewitch you > >If it takes all night > >There are many things > >That I could say > >To try and comfort you > But I know the words you4d like to hear > Are simply "I love you" > >Sometimes I4m up > >Sometimes I4m down > A topsy-turvy life > But only searching > For the truth > And I4ll find it > If it takes all night long > Well I myself > May main concern > Is what I can afford > So if music be my mistress > Then at least she4s Madame Claude...d4accord > Ah - more champagne! > To lose this pain > Would be very nice > So I4ll help myself to one more drink > >And I4ll find myself > >If it takes all night long > > E.G. Music Ltd ) 1974 > > > > Hmmm. An ennui over comes the singer. One he hopes won't stay long. > He'll > "bewitch" her, if it takes all night. "Bewitch," it is a love song, no? > "I > know the words you4d like to hear Are simply "I love you." The singer > is > comforting a woman he is trying to bewitch and failing, due to an ennui > that > has over come him.* A woman he's attained by making a wish? Hmmmm. > Sometimes he's up, sometimes he's down. Hmmmm. Failing to "bewitch," > he > must be "down..." Hmmm. Needing to comfort the woman for an ennui that > has > overcome him, for not being able to find himself, for "sometimes being > up, > sometimes being down..." Hmmmm. He'll keep trying to find > himself....if it > takes all night? Hmmmm. What would he be trying to find for this woman > he > is failing to bewitch??? For this woman whom he is sometimes up and > sometimes down? More champagne? I think not. A movie? I think not. > > It is all very tongue in cheek. Multi entendre. Lyric machine failing > to > find his muse? A Love song? Romeo failing to find himself? Depression > > lament? Party time induced impotence, lament? > > Certainly not the cinema imagery of a 2HB or Three And Nine. > > There's also a slant that the female is a prostitute...make a > wish...afford/Madame Claude...noted madame to luminaries story). > > Yes there were movies made on Madame Claude, the song was done in 74, > the > movie in 77, don't know the origin of the Madame Claude saga, off hand > and > ain't gonna hunt for it, anyone - ? > > Ferry loved to write lyrics that meant different things on different > levels > and could have multiple interpetations. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ________________________________________________________________ ___________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:57:41 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] length of show Does that include the Rufus Wainwright set ? -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< Simon Galloway wrote: > It's about 100 minutes so you should be out before 10pm. Leaves enough time for a coco before bed! > > SimonG > > >>>>Heather Buch 07/10 2:26 pm >>> >>>> > For logistical reasons, I'm trying to guage exactly how long the > concert will last. If it's scheduled to start at 8:00, any > estimations on when it will be over? > > THANKS! > > Heather > > > _____________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:00:09 EDT From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] length of show my guess is it will be over by 11:00 especially at an outdoor venue. See you in Boston! Eileen in NY ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:16:37 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] length of show That's up to you! >>> Heather James 07/10 2:57 pm >>> Does that include the Rufus Wainwright set ? -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:32:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Colleen Hmmmm, and I have always thought that "If It Takes All Night" was about the Y chromosome's refusal to ask for directions. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:38:35 +0100 From: "C. H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: DM The Divine Comedy would have been a very good support act on the Roxy tour. I only got Joshua Kadison instead, yawn. It'd be interesting to know which song they have covered. Or re-interpreted. Christian - ---------- >Von: "M. Taylor" >An: avalon@smoe.org >Betreff: Re: [AVALON] OT: DM >Datum: Die, 10. Jul 2001 14:07 Uhr > >On a side note - I'm on the mailing list for The Divine Comedy and they >covered a Roxy Music song during some of their shows in May. I don't >remember which song. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:38:40 +0100 From: "C. H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] La Mariee Mise A Nu Par Ses Celibataires, Meme Watching some of the material on the "Penthouse Perfection" and "A Rhapsody Divine" videos yesterday (again thanks a lot to Reecey and all others involved!), I realized, or seemed to realize once again that Ferry's idiosyncratic position in pop music might partly be due to his talent for unlikely juxtaposition. When you see early Roxy performing Dream Home, FYP or RM/RM and consider that Ferry's appearance in the Cilla Black show came not much later, it's probably hard for many to assess what "this guy is doing". It's audible on the first two tracks of ATAP as well: The "In" Crowd and then Smoke Gets In Your Eyes. What's he building there? Most artists who have a reputation for having a wide horizon in their work avoid certain areas of music that seemingly cannot be liked when doing this kind of music, i. e. they're "boring" or "distasteful". If you're a part of prog rock, you "can't" step into crooning chanson. Of course divisions like that are unnecessary, but Ferry has been - as far as I know - one of the first to do something that might have been considered "unhip" by his original fan-base. Certainly when you see the It's My Party duet. Could it surprise when the unconvential turns to the conventional, does it bemuse or even alienate??? Christian - ---------- >Von: Colleen Matan >An: >Betreff: Re: RE: [AVALON] La Mariee Mise A Nu Par Ses Celibataires, Meme >Datum: Die, 10. Jul 2001 14:08 Uhr > >But neither Roxy nor Duchamp, in their respective contexts, were on the >fringe. In fact, both were pretty famous in their own right, Roxy >certainly throughout the UK and parts of Europe (the context in this case) >and Duchamp throughout, well, the world. The disconnect between high and >popular culture was nowhere near as great back then as it is now. It >wasn't just the snooty crowd profiled monthly in _Vogue_ or _W_ (you know, >where we in the US find our photos of Lucy Ferry) that went to art >openings--the 1913 Armory Show in New York that made Duchamp a celebrity >for the painting that shocked New York ("Nude Descending A Staircase") was >a widely mixed crowd who didn't feel art was only for the rarefied few. >Sometimes I think we tend to think how things are is how things always >were, but back in 1912, at the very infancy of our homogenized, >suffocating, lowest common denominator, mass culture, paradoxically there >were more "entertainment" choices available and open to a wider group of >people. (Yes, you still have "blockbuster" museum shows now, but those >often betray a "top 40" mentality. And I digress. As usual.) > >But to say that both Roxy and Duchamp were making their living on the >fringes of culture I think is an overstatement and underestimates their >contributions to music and art, respectively. > >Also since I'm here, I'd also have to say--and I'd argue the same parallel >with Ferry's originals vs. covers--Duchamp's "ready-mades" were only a >small part of his interesting artistic output. Certainly "Nude Descending >A Staircase" and his later assemble works (amongst the "The Bride Stripped >Bare...") are the truly interesting and provocative works which made such >indulgence as the ready-mades possible only after he'd become so famous >and his signature so valuable. > >Colleen > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:04:29 -0000 From: "Denise Firman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bloody Videos A big thank you to Reecey for the videos. Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't had chance to watch them yet but plan to have a Roxy evening in on Friday! Once again, thanks for these and all the hard work that obviously went into them. Denise _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:48:53 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Best bootleg? Since it's been a bit quiet lately, which is the best botleg, Roxy or solowise? I have my favorites, but I'll let you Avalonians go first. Need to find out which one to vote for? Go to http://home.box.nl/~korvingr/bootlegs/roxy/roxy.htm http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/bootarch.html Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 13:32:57 -0500 From: Ryan Mullen Subject: [AVALON] 2 tickets for 7/30 Chicago show I bought two tickets to see Roxy Music in Chicago on July 30th. However, I can no longer make the 8-hour drive to Chicago to attend the concert. I would really like to sell these two tickets at face value so they don't go to waste. The tickets are $45 each, and are in Section 201, Row D, Seats 26-27. Sorry if I am wrong in posting this on the mailing list but I could find no other forum for fans of Roxy Music. Anyhow, if anyone is interested or knows someone who may be, please get in touch with me soon. Thanks! ryan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 14:33:05 -0400 From: Rick Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bloody Videos Nothing yet here. One week to Roxy. Hope the vids arrive first. Need to quench my thirst. Hoping they're not stuck in customs. Penthouse Perfection and all! - -----Original Message----- From: Denise Firman [SMTP:denisefirman@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:04 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bloody Videos A big thank you to Reecey for the videos. Mine arrived on Monday. Haven't had chance to watch them yet but plan to have a Roxy evening in on Friday! Once again, thanks for these and all the hard work that obviously went into them. Denise _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:43:49 -0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: TDC >The Divine Comedy would have been a very good support act on the Roxy tour. I saw them in London in March. Erm, they're not very good anymore. It's great that they're trying another sound but I don't really like it. I agree if The Divine Comedy were to play material before Regeneration. >It'd be interesting to know which song they have covered. Or re-interpreted. I asked the list. They covered "Oh Yeah." I have no idea if it was a good cover. =P M - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:06:18 +0100 From: Richard Evans Subject: Re: [AVALON] Colleen Colleen That is SO FUNNY........any take on All I Want Is You? Cheers Richard Colleen Matan wrote: > Hmmmm, and I have always thought that "If It Takes All Night" was about > the Y chromosome's refusal to ask for directions. > > Colleen > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 15:38:29 EDT From: Artman1@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] 5 tickets available for Atlanta show on 7/26 Hi all, The RM gods have smiled upon my friends and me and brought us down a table from the heavens! This leaves us with 5 extra seats which I ordered when the tickets went on sale on 6/3. They should be fairly decent seats(definitely better than anything that went on sale through ticketmaster)although it will probably be next week until I have them in hand and know their actual location. If any of you or someone you know are interested in these seats, we are only asking face value, which is about 75.00 per ticket. We can either sell all five together or can break them into groups of three and two. Please contact me offlist if you are interested or have any questions. Thanks! Art ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:39:33 +0200 From: "Ed Stobbelaar" Subject: [AVALON] THIS IS ROXY MUSIC WOW, what a bootleg! Got it this afternoon and played it THREE times already. Goose-flesh & tears with Both Ends Burning & If There Is Something. Laugh when Bryan says to come forward. All the other songs are superb as well. It's first-quality. Thanks Han, I owe you. Viva! Ed ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:43:03 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] La Mariee Mise A Nu Par Ses Celibataires, Meme On 10 Jul 2001, at 9:41, Heather Buch wrote: > I still don't know whether or not Roxy was really really big in the > 70's. It seems to me that more people were fans of Led Zeppelin or the > Rolling Stones, and that Roxy never reached the popularity of these > bands, but I may be wrong. Maybe they weren't as big as Zep, Pink Floyd or the Stones, but they were big in the UK. And they reached deep and wide in terms of their audience, too, offering that heady mix of superficial glamour and (barely hidden) depth we came to know and love in awe and wonder. David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:42:02 +0200 From: "Ferdinand Biesheuvel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] THIS IS ROXY MUSIC me toooooooo fabulous great artwork compliments etc. etc. Bryan Ferdinand - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Stobbelaar To: Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: [AVALON] THIS IS ROXY MUSIC > WOW, what a bootleg! > Got it this afternoon and played it THREE times already. > Goose-flesh & tears with Both Ends Burning & If There Is Something. > Laugh when Bryan says to come forward. > All the other songs are superb as well. > It's first-quality. > > Thanks Han, I owe you. > > Viva! > Ed > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 17:02:22 -0400 From: "tmoq" Subject: [AVALON] Waaay OT: Divine Comedy Pt. 1 All of this talk about Divine Comedy has me once again searching for some material that may or may not exist. In early '74, Iggy Pop and Ray Manzarek of The Doors got together and recorded some cover material under the name The Phantom. The album was called Divine Comedy Part 1 and I believe there were no credit listed for the singer who sounded like Jim Morrison and had people speculating as to wheather or not it was actually Morrison. (there were still a lot of Jim sightings at that time) Their first performance was for a Jim Morrison tribute at the Whisky A Go-Go on 7/3/74 and their second (and last) performance was with the New York Dolls for the Death Of Glitter show at the Hollywood Palladium 10/11/74. (This show was loosely portrayed in the Velvet Goldmine movie.) The original line up for the album turned out to be: Iggy Pop vocals, Ray Manzarek keyboards, Nigel Harrison (of Silverhead and Blondie) on bass, Dick Wagner (of Lou Reed & Alice Cooper) on guitar and Gary Mallaber (of Beach Boys, America, and Gene Clark) on drums. But by the time the shows rolled around, Wagner was under contract to tour with Reed and was replaced by James Williamson ( of Iggy`s Stooges). Then Mallaber backed out and the Sales brothers (Tony and Hunt) were brought in. A review of the band by the L.A. Times hailed them as "the new band of the future." Iggy had written some original material for a second album but everything fell apart (Iggy was a basket case at this point) and they all went their separate ways at the end of '74. I suspect the "original material" Iggy had written ended up as Kill City ( a great album, IMO). Does anyone have or know of any recordings from the two Phantom performances, especially the Death Of Glitter show? Thanks Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 22:28:14 +0100 From: stevesiren2 Subject: [AVALON] Test,PLEASE DELETE Nightmare !!!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:59:33 +0100 From: "Mark Heptinstall" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Videos received I received my videos on Saturday but have not had the time to view A Rhapsody Divine all the way through yet. I wonder if Bryan occasionally wakes up in a cold sweat remembering that duet with Cilla Black? I note that Phil's site advises that tickets on sale for Milan - but the agencies don't seem to know about it yet. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:05:41 -0400 From: Heather Buch Subject: Re: Re: [AVALON] La Mariee Mise A Nu Par Ses Celibataires, Meme Very well put. I have always *wanted* to call him "adult contemporary," but he's just not, and for that matter I can't classify him in a genre. Heather - ---- On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, C. H. Soetemann (soeteman@uni-bremen.de) wrote: > Watching some of the material on the "Penthouse Perfection" and "A > Rhapsody > Divine" videos yesterday (again thanks a lot to Reecey and all others > involved!), I realized, or seemed to realize once again that Ferry's > idiosyncratic position in pop music might partly be due to his talent > for > unlikely juxtaposition. . . . . It's audible > on > the first two tracks of ATAP as well: The "In" Crowd and then Smoke Gets > In > Your Eyes. What's he building there? > Most artists who have a reputation for having a wide horizon in their > work > avoid certain areas of music that seemingly cannot be liked when doing > this > kind of music, i. e. they're "boring" or "distasteful". If you're a part > of > prog rock, you "can't" step into crooning chanson. Of course divisions > like > that are unnecessary, but Ferry has been - as far as I know - one of the > first to do something that might have been considered "unhip" by his > original fan-base. Certainly when you see the It's My Party duet. > Could it surprise when the unconvential turns to the conventional, does > it > bemuse or even alienate??? > > Christian ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:13:44 +0100 From: stevesiren2 Subject: [AVALON] Living In The Material World I know a lot of you (and me) complained about the price of tickets & merchandise for the Roxy gigs. Well a friend of mine went to the Madonna show at Earl's Court last night, & apart from the 85 pound admission, it was:-_ 35-50 pound for a t-shirt 150 pound for a tour jacket 25 pound for a programme 10 pound for a key ring! Makes my Siren t-shirt look a bargain!! "And now the kids pay a couple of quid but they need it just the same" Steve Oh if anyones interested , please note my new e-mail address. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #297 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest