From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #287 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, July 6 2001 Volume 06 : Number 287 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] set list ruminations [Daniel Atterbom ] RE: [AVALON] to whom it may concern [Jocelyn Fiske ] Re: [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 3 ["thom.wallace] RE: [AVALON] to whom it may concern ["R. Jackson" ] RE: [AVALON] Roxy Collectibles [Jocelyn Fiske ] Re: [AVALON] students ["A.L. Jepson" ] Re: [AVALON] As the World Turns ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] [AVALON] oohh lallallalla to be an A student..... ["the bogus man" ] Re: [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain [KRNCHSE@aol.com] [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 6 [jmdillon@mindspri] [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 7 [jmdillon@mindspri] [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 8 "The Finale" [jmdi] Re: [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 8 "The Finale" [] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 10:16:19 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] set list ruminations At 13.20 -0400 1-07-05, Colleen Matan wrote: >For all of my trepidation and apprehension when the tour was announced, >I'm more and more finding myself less worried about what they do or don't >play. Seeing them, and meeting up with list folks, is going to be enough >I think. (yes, I'm shocked to read those words coming from me too.) Why?--one sometinmes have to kick back and enjoy life. Daniel "Almost two decades after they kissed their past goodnight, Roxy Music are still, effortlessly, the sound of the future." Sarah Dempster, NME June 2001. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:08:25 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Collectibles At 09.19 +0200 1-07-06, Han Snijders wrote: > David Squires made me aware of a mistake on the back cover, I'll sent a new >one to Heather, I hope she will update her site soon. What makes me, being Swedish, ask this question: does Ladytron mean anything in English? Daniel "Almost two decades after they kissed their past goodnight, Roxy Music are still, effortlessly, the sound of the future." Sarah Dempster, NME June 2001. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:06:26 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] It's only...John Lennon At 23.04 -0500 1-07-05, jas2347@speedsite.com wrote: >Hi Dan: >Sorry to disagree, in as much as I like Bryan's version of this song, >nothing beats the original. I just about cry everytime I hear it. >Maybe it's the production or the chords, it just pulls at my heart. I >feel and have FELT this song since it was first released. Along with In >My Life, also on Rubber Soul, John was getting very "soulful". Very >deep songs that make you think about who, what, when , why, in your >life. John sang exactly what I was feeling at the times I was feeling >it. Imagine and Jealous Guy did that same thing to me later. He is >sorely missed. I'm glad Bryan chose IOL and JG as his Beatle's covers. >Very smart and very knowing. > >No slamming just a friendly exchange of thoughts. Dear Jas, no problemo. Ian MacDonald is critical of It's Only Love in Revolution in the Head. In My Life is one of my favorite Beatles tracks, but I've never heard a cover of it? Is there one? NP Hoola Bandoola Band, Danslet fvr yttrandefriheten (*The Freedom of speech dancesong*) Daniel "Almost two decades after they kissed their past goodnight, Roxy Music are still, effortlessly, the sound of the future." Sarah Dempster, NME June 2001. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:02:34 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] SET LIST RUMINATIONS AND ILLUMINATES. At 23.58 -0400 1-07-05, jmdillon@mindspring.com wrote: >Just one question? >Is it time for New York yet? It4s raining in New York On Fifth Avenue And off Broadway after dark I for one have mixed feelings about changed setlists. When Elvis Costello was playting Stockholm four nights I went the second evening figuring that they had set the sound by then and that they were not tired of Stockholm. The first concert had been Elvis Costello & the Attractions. The second was Elvis Costello and on some songs Steve Naive. Elvis Costello is not best guitarplayer in the world and unlike say James Taylor, who can pull it off, Elvis Costello did not. On the third and fourth nights were back to Elvis Costello & the Attractions, one of them featuring Jackson Browne as a guest. Back in 1982 I went to London and saw Talking Heads, with Tom-Tom Club supporting, play Wembley. The concerts were identical down to Byrne's talk between songs and movements. I asked him about it later and he replied that people have been performing the same play night after night, have they not? Two years ago Bruce Springsteen and a reformed E-street Band sold out Stockholm Olympic Stadium two nights. I got tickets for the first night. The second night was better and they played Jungleland, otherwise the setlists were about the same. Internet has made it easy to find out exactly what one's favorite bands are playing night after night. It is a mixed blessing. You know what you get, but there are no surprises. Colleen Matan would have prefered some differences between the concerts she attended. I understand her, but I think you were unlucky. It's my impression that the setlist for the ATGB tour varied a lot, but I was unable to see the Stockholm concert so I would not know for a fact. NP Hoola Bandoola Band, Hercules (a Swedish "progressive" band from the 70's) Daniel "Almost two decades after they kissed their past goodnight, Roxy Music are still, effortlessly, the sound of the future." Sarah Dempster, NME June 2001. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:09:30 +0200 From: "TORTERA " Subject: Re: [AVALON] set list ruminations I must say that excitation don't stop after the concert!! Quite one month after Dublin gig, we spend all our free time to play only Roxy songs.. Poor family, relatives, colleagues... It's a kind of madness, I guess...but a good one! - ---------- De : ASchulberg@aol.com A : avalon@smoe.org Objet : Re: [AVALON] set list ruminations Date : jeudi 5 juillet 2001 21:57 In a message dated 07/05/2001 1:28:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cjem@his.com writes: > For all of my trepidation and apprehension when the tour was announced, > I'm more and more finding myself less worried about what they do or don't > play. Seeing them, and meeting up with list folks, is going to be enough > I think. And I'd like to add that the tour photos that are cropping up are really whetting my appetite for this tour. If I'm this excited now, how will I feel on concert night? Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 10:54:09 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] to whom it may concern > isn't 27 a bit old to be a student? It's what we call a mature student here. And there's a lot to be said for maturity! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 10:53:01 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: [AVALON] Well done Johnny. Got my copies of Rhapsody Devine &Penthouse Perfection first thing this morning, they really are excellent. Wel done Johnny and I'll buy you a drink the next time we meet. Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 10:58:44 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 3 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 7:54 AM Subject: [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 3 > He was with that young man who always goes with him (black wavy hair to the neck; is he Jim > Lawn, who's he?). If it was JIm he's either had a hair transplant or bought a wig. Let's just say that Jim is slightly thin on top. I thoroughly enjoyed the postings as it made me think back to what we used to do when Roxy played the old Glasgow Apollo. Cheers, Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 03:01:45 -0700 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: RE: [AVALON] to whom it may concern I'm a 36-year-old student. Still working on the maturity part. ;-) - -Rob At 10:54 AM 07/06/2001 +0100, you wrote: > > isn't 27 a bit old to be a student? > >It's what we call a mature student here. And there's a lot to be said for >maturity! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:15:47 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] set list ruminations >Much as I'd like to see them add "Avalon" (if played well), I'd hate for it to be at the expense of "Both Ends Burning" or some of the other grand old stuff that's been played in the UK recently. Avalon was a mess. And I for one have never been more thankful in my life that it was dropped (now if only they'd stick to Lennon's version of Jealous Guy played pre-gig and drop that from the list too). BBE has had everyone on their feet at all venues (and stuff the bouncers), with the band particularly enjoying themselves so I doubt very much whether that will be dropped. I do suspect that Dance Away may find its way into the US set (it was on the list to be played at TOTP2 along with BEB but they ran out of time to play them) and I know that Just Like You has been rehearsed and may make a surprise appearance. But for me I would be over the moon in June with a spoon if they added Beauty Queen and The Thrill of It All. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 12:19:59 +0200 From: Mats Andersson Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno, Spedding, Manzo, PHIL COLLINS? Keith Shockley wrote: > > Someone mentioned Manzanera and Spedding playing on some of Brian Eno's > early recordings. Didn't Phil Collins play on Another Green world or perhaps > another Eno record? > > Keith Yes, he did. and also on Before and After Science Mats ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 11:32:47 +0100 From: "Niki H" Subject: [AVALON] students isn't it funny that the only person who didn't feel concerned is the one my question was meant for!I was aiming for someone on this list who uses the excuse of being a student to explain infantile behaviour and insensitive remarks ,but appears to be 27,not a teenager.I absolutely respect mature students as I was one myself once. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:33:37 +0100 From: Jocelyn Fiske Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy Collectibles >Ha Ha! You do realise that the picture is of Sophie Dahl, who is Mick Jagger's latest beau? Or were you being ironic? It was used for Yves Saint Laurent's Opium ads in the UK and they were "pulled" after a record amount of complaints. Since then Sophie has become half the girl she used to be and shed 20lbs - silly girl - her selling power was because she wasn't part of the heroine chic, she was all woman and proud to flaunt it.I wonder if an aging old wrinkly had anything to do with her reassessing her body image? But good choice Han, I thought the posters looked very Roxy when they first appeared. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 11:50:50 +0100 From: "A.L. Jepson" Subject: Re: [AVALON] students Were you talking about me by any chance Nikki? I'm 26. Close though. If it was me, could you point out any infantile behaviour and insensitive remarks that I've made because I can't think of any that spring to mind? Some of things I've submitted on this list were just jokey stuff and were not intending to cause offense at all. I wouldn't think of them as infantile and inoffensive. Cheers Alan Niki H wrote: > > isn't it funny that the only person who didn't feel concerned is the one my > question was meant for!I was aiming for someone on this list who uses the > excuse of being a student to explain infantile behaviour and insensitive > remarks ,but appears to be 27,not a teenager.I absolutely respect mature > students as I was one myself once. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:28:46 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] As the World Turns Cover versions on F&B? , compared to compared to Ferrys own compositions, tenuous link I think, but while were on it, Is anyone sick of hearing JEALOUS GUY EVERY time Ferry plas live, I would much prefer an extra ROXY song when seeing them, or a Ferry solo song (It ain't me babe/Party doll/Name of the game/39 steps/chain reaction) than listen to this lovely but over used version again. Before you say it I know it was there only UK no 1, but would it have been if not for LENNONS death. - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Squires To: Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] As the World Turns > On 5 Jul 2001, at 12:59, terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > > > Would I be upsetting anyone by saying Four Letter Love is Crap? > > Yes, you bloody would! I wouldn't want to claim more than B side status for > it, but it's a good song. I particularly like the spoken 1-2-3 on the coda. > Little details like that make songs for me. > > Hell, it's miles better than the cover versions on F+B, for instance... > > David > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 11:42:43 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] set list ruminations Jocelyn, what wonderful taste you have for ROXY songs, Beauty Queen, The thrill of it all & Just Lke You would be PERFECT, makes my heart yearn to think about it - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jocelyn Fiske To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] set list ruminations > >Much as I'd like to see them add "Avalon" (if played well), I'd hate for it > to be at the expense of "Both Ends Burning" or some of the other grand old > stuff that's been played > > in the UK recently. > > > > Avalon was a mess. And I for one have never been more thankful in my life > that it was dropped (now if only they'd stick to Lennon's version of Jealous > Guy played pre-gig and drop that from the list too). > > BBE has had everyone on their feet at all venues (and stuff the bouncers), > with the band particularly enjoying themselves so I doubt very much whether > that will be dropped. > > I do suspect that Dance Away may find its way into the US set (it was on the > list to be played at TOTP2 along with BEB but they ran out of time to play > them) and I know that Just Like You has been rehearsed and may make a > surprise appearance. > > But for me I would be over the moon in June with a spoon if they added > Beauty Queen and The Thrill of It All. > > > > Jocelyn > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 12:15:26 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music Tour 2001 Just as an reminder and for the benefit of new-comers to the list, I have a simple web site that attempts to collate information about list members attending the various Roxy Music concerts around the world this year. It's an attempt to cut down messages on the list which will be of interest only to a very few Avalonians and so we can meet (or avoid!) other list members at those concerts we attend. If you'd like to be included, here's how: 1. You email me off list at Roxy_Tour@squires.nildram.co.uk and let me know which date or dates you'll be at. 2. I will put information received up on: http://www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html 3. Everybody will then know who's likely to be at each show and can then make contact _off list_ if they so wish. Details of a venue for a pre or post gig meeting can also be posted to the web page via the above address. Regards, David David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK See like who's where: http://www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:20:25 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: [AVALON] oohh lallallalla to be an A student..... CIAO Niki behaviour believe me could be worst than infantile,,, think about teachers ...... btw i pretend to be one of them LOL dan d'arch :-) but i was here for new sensation mona lisa and la goulue.... (ART TEACHER AS U CAN GUESS LOL) what about roxy MUSIC then? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 07:19:09 -0400 From: Heather James Subject: [AVALON] As the Setlist Turns I think the band is going to stay with Roxy Music material instead of picking up any of Bryan's Solo work on this tour, but ... I'd certainly prefer The Thrill of It All (or All I want Is You!) over yet another replay of Jealous Guy ... but there is a brashness and confidence in the Country Life material that may not fit the band's current state of mind. Or maybe ... maybe its just a tainted with the memory of Hall ... -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< terrypaulrigz8c wrote: > Cover versions on F&B? , compared to compared to Ferrys own compositions, > tenuous link I think, but while were on it, Is anyone sick of hearing > JEALOUS GUY EVERY time Ferry plas live, I would much prefer an extra ROXY > song when seeing them, or a Ferry solo song (It ain't me babe/Party > doll/Name of the game/39 steps/chain reaction) than listen to this lovely > but over used version again. Before you say it I know it was there only UK > no 1, but would it have been if not for LENNONS death. > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The sublime footer says: > Trim the excess poop BEFORE you post! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 07:30:28 EDT From: KRNCHSE@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain In a message dated 7/6/1 7:24:16 AM, you wrote: <> Brilliant !!! This was /is a beautilful and moving post from 'Nacho',one of the warmest and pleasurable things I have read on Avalon.I can smell the Coffee and Pastries,see the shellfish Tapas, as he is waiting across the street ! I am salivating as I eagerly await tonights Smorgasboard. Thanks John, and Grazias to Nacho , Regards, DM well i'm drunk today................ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 07:41:37 -0400 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 6 The in-depth review by "Ignacio "Nacho" Peyro" from Santiago, Spain, Continues : <><><><><><> Once Inside & The Opening Act After that, we had lunch and walked around the old city, often stopping to try some of the local pastry :) We were very tired and I had to drink dozens of coffees to stay awake and "on" for the concert. I did not want to get nervous because my cousin had no ticket, we had to leave our bags somewhere, etc., and the house we were staying in was 10 kms away from Santiago. Also, I wanted to be early at the arena, which was also a bit far from the center of the town. Luckily (it was destiny), everything turned out all right, and at 2100 hours we were inside the arena. I could not believe that the amount of people going there were going to attend a Roxy show. In Madrid, they could have filled three times such an arena. One of the most pleasant things for me in the concert was that there were every kind of people. You could see a lot of respect for the band; most of the people were not "fans", but they had gone there to see "something important", "one of the best bands". There were young modern people dressed in black, couples in their thirties, ladies in their fifties, and, many, many young people (specially girls). There were also many "pijos" (sorry, it has no translation, but it's the word to call those who wear Ralph Lauren shirts and an eternal tan. Nothing wrong with it, though, I suppose I'm pijo as well). There were also many people with T-shirts, books of the world tour, etc. As I had not taken much money with me, I could only buy four stickers and the badges. The badges are great!!! There is no roxier merchandise!! I put two on my chest very proudly. My cousin and I were on the fourth row or so, a great place. On the first row there was a young man giving a lesson about Roxy (it's incredible, but we were very similar), and there was also the roxiest girl I've ever seen, who sometimes looked at me (or that's what my vanity thought). But trust me: it was an incredible the melting pot to see, and everyone looked delighted. At about 21.30 the arena was not full. As the Avalonian ambassador I was a little worried about it. The concert was supposed to start at 22h. Suddenly, a man ran in the stage. It was "Paul Young". No one had noticed the thing was about to begin. His performance, I must say, was energetic. He spent more than a half of his concert on the ground. It was like an aerobic lesson. He keeps in great form, really, we could see it. His voice, however, is not what it was. I don't want to be bitter. I thought, as he started singing the first song, "how can he not be down when the arena is still almost empty?" But he wasn't. He wore leather trousers, a white tank top and a shirt that somehow reminded me a pajama jacket. Paul sang some of his best known songs, which were welcomed from the audience. He also covered many popular songs from others (including Madonna's "Music"). The guitarist looked like Iron Maiden's guitarist and not Paul Young's. Together they did a lot of equivocal scenes (hugging themselves, putting their lips together, and "worse" stuff. The sexuality, however, reached its climax (never better said) when he performed a song called something like "Is this a love thing or is it just a sex thing?", a very boring song that lasted for about 15 minutes. At the beginning, I had given him very warm applause (for he deserved them, and also for him not feeling alone, as he was not the star). But, half an hour after, I got bored and thought that this guy was exceeding his role. His concert lasted for more than an "everlasting" hour. It was, anyway, a very honest performance, with some good moments. But as I mentioned, his physical shape is much better than his voice, and he really seems to have some kind of sex-obsession, at least when he is on stage (I won't tell you what he did with the maracas or the microphone). I even sang along "Every time you go away". Paul Young looked a lot to the first rows, so he looked at me many times, and also at the "I'm so bored" look of my cousin. He did not give up, though, he gave himself to the audience and, man, we had to give him a good applause as he left (after one or two encores), but I must admit I was quite happy when he left. End of Part 6 Next..."There's a New Sensation" ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 07:44:31 -0400 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 7 The in-depth review by "Ignacio "Nacho" Peyro" from Santiago, Spain, Continues : <><><><><><> After Paul Young, the road crew had to change ALL the stage. That lasted about an hour. It was very hot in the arena, which was now almost full. My cousin was truly sick, it would have been better for him to stay in bed than going to the concert. People were nervous because of how long it was taking the boys to change out the stage. I got in conversation with a this people: a local couple, and a man which seemed absolutely crazy. The couple were very critical with Paul Young. They lived in Santiago and they went to many concerts, but they liked Bryan and Roxy a lot. The crazy guy (in his forties) was a diehard Roxy fan, also born in Santiago. It was curious to hear his accent. I told them I had come all the way from Madrid to hear Roxy, and I think they thought I was crazy, or they were surprised because of my loyalty. All of us considered that the Roxy reunion was, however, something we could not miss. The crazy man in his forties talked about the many gigs he had attended (during the Manifesto era, and Avalon); he also seemed not to miss any concert, from Zucchero to Neneh Cherry. All of us thought how miraculous it was that the arena was packed when the concert had not been given any publicity. They were sorry because they thought Bryan's voice was not going to be very good... I fought that with my polite words. I told them I had seen him that same morning! And that he had a truly "Olympic" look! I will say it now: at the end of the concert that couple was incredibly delighted, saying "we were wrong", and also saying that Bryan's voice was much better than Paul Young's. I personally think that Paul Young's performance had something of cheap spectacle: Bryan has never done what he did in order to gain the favor of the public. It was not elegant from Paul Young. Well, after an hour... the lights were dimmed. I was feeling something in my throat as I saw Phil Manzanera (you know, my mate) going into the stage... and then, at the end, the slim shape of "Dorian" Ferry. Ups. In the first note of remake-remodel, the lights hit the stage and I could see Bryan "Gray" Ferry singing at the piano "I tried, but I could not find the way..." Remake-Remodel was full of energy, of power. I had never thought what a good beginning it was going to be. After the song, Bryan spoke: HOLA, BUENAS NOCHES, SANTIAGO!! (the public roared) SOMOS ROXY MUSIC!! (I roared incredibly). I had a lot of doubts of how I was going to act in the concert. Well, I danced to everything and sang every word to every song, and shouted all the yoohoos! and bravo that I could! I think even the people around me were surprised. The crazy guy was, surprisingly, as Roxy fan as I was: I think we were the two biggest fans of the show. We "did the strand" at the end of the song, we shouted "Virginia Plain!" after the "what's her name?", and so on. He said a lot of times during the show: oh, god, this is not a concert, this is a celebration (in the religious sense of the word). He was a good fan, I almost told him about the Avalon mailing list ;) The galician couple were also astonished and pleased. In fact, I must say the music of the concert was superb. Much better than the "viva!" album, I think. Maybe it's technology, I don't know. But it was a lesson, really, of how to perform. The musicians were brilliant. My cousin was moved about that. And I myself, did not know what a "guitar band" Roxy was, till I saw Mrs. Manzanera & Spedding giving it their best. End of Part 7 Next Phil's "Smashing" Guitar work! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 07:51:14 -0400 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 8 "The Finale" The in-depth review by "Ignacio "Nacho" Peyro" from Santiago, Spain, Continues : <><><><><><> Phil's "Smashing" Guitar work! The musicians were brilliant. My cousin was moved about that. And I myself, did not know what a "guitar band" Roxy was, till I saw Mrs. Manzanera & Spedding giving it their best. Well: the second song was, as usual, Ladytron. PHIL MANZANERA BROKE A STRING ON THE FINAL SOLO AND STARTED SMASHING THE GUITAR AGAINST THE GROUND. But really!! He smashed it for ten times at least!!! I could not believe in my eyes!! It was like being into something historic!!! Oh I suffered a lot because: the solo was so brilliant and, mostly, because the guitar was so beautiful, mother of pearl in colour, all very Manzanera. Has he ever done it before??? He even kicked the guitar!!! And it was only the second song!!! (the audience roared). It was such a surprise!!! (It was not typical of Roxy, I think, but hey, now it is). The band did not perform The Thrill of it All as had been reported. The reviews that appeared on the galizian papers were excellent, but they were mistaken in some songs. They said they played "If There is Something", "Mother of Pearl" among others , and they didn't. I don't know if it was because of Paul Young's eternal performance or if it was because they had thought in playing less songs. Yes, the set list was changed: it was reduced. They did not play "Street Life" either. They played, however, "More Than This (which is a big hit in Spain, a classic in Spanish bars) and "While My Heart is Still Beating". The rest did not vary. Bryan voice improved with the songs. He didn't shout the "Oh, Yeah!", but I don't know why, he really seemed to be able to sing it. His singing was brilliant, and he really seemed to give himself to the public, much more than I ever thought he would!!! He even spoke in galizian!!! He sometimes asked for the response of the audience, and he said "you are a great audience". Phil also spoke at the end of the show, in Spanish: "Un placer", and some other things I don't remember, strangely. The band was very good. Guitar and sax solos were greatly welcome by the audience. Also the two girls, Julia Thornton and Lucy Wilkins got a big applause ;) The audience clapped along to a lot of the songs; I think palms and guitars are somehow in the Spanish genes. Roxy really seemed to appreciate it, and you could feel a good communication between the band and the audience. At the beginning, the audience was a bit cold, maybe because they were "full of respect"; that's what I think and I don't think I'm wrong. TGPT was brilliant. I really wanted to see him (btw, I got his autograph as well!!), and he is really part of the Roxy soul. Bryan referred to him as The great Paul Thompson. As usual, Bryan wore three suits. How incredible the last one, the silver one in silk lami! You can understand how moved I felt as he sang "A Song for Europe" in his white tux. Bryan seems to be more "Ferry" that way. He's more himself. Well... it was as nice as dream could be and better than any dream about a Roxy show I had ever had. The first and the last in my life. The audience was greatly satisfied. That was a concert, that was a band, that was Roxy Music. The woman of the galizian couple told me "I would have been for hours in here". It was one of my happiest times ever, I must reckon it. I'm sorry not only for my English, but also because of the lack of structure in this review. I had to tell many things. I don't know if you have realized how important this all was for me. I hope you have and maybe our feelings are similar. The next day I had to take the bus... this time it was 9 hours to Madrid. But for this: I could do it every week. I am so happy about it that I don't feel sad at all that I will not see them again. I feel thankful. Two hours of pure pleasure. I bought the local papers before going to Madrid. Great pics of Bryan in the cover. Nice, respectful and very positive reviews. I even appear in a photo of the crowd in La voz de Galicia, with my cousin!!! :))) The pics on this paper were great: Manzanera smashing his guitar as Bryan looks at him. On the cover: Bryan Ferry looking like a crucifix, as he croons. It's one the best photos I've seen of him, and I've seen a lot. The journalists also mentioned that the concert it was a melting pot,. So now I have to say yesterday's show is one of the best nights in my life, and I don't regret to say it. A pleasure from beginning to end. This will remain in my memory for as long as I keep breathing. And............... Thank you ALL so much for taking the time to listen. All the Best Sincerely "Ignacio "Nacho" Peyro", Madrid, Spain In closing may I say, "Thank you! Nacho". Regards John Dillon Who is now very ready for New York! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 14:00:30 +0200 From: "Stefan Thomsen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 8 "The Finale" Hi! Great work, to say the least. I was in London 22.nd of june and I had the same feelings. I'm trying to get tickets for Copenhagen and Hamburg in september. Would love to relive these fantastic concerts. Stefan, Denmark By the way, I still don't have the first 3 melodies from the radio BBC show. Can anyone help me?(mp3?) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 1:51 PM Subject: [AVALON] Review : ROXY MUSIC In Santiago Spain, Part 8 "The Finale" > The in-depth review by "Ignacio "Nacho" Peyro" from Santiago, Spain, > Continues : > > <><><><><><> > > Phil's "Smashing" Guitar work! > > The musicians were brilliant. My cousin was moved about that. And I > myself, did not know what a "guitar band" Roxy was, till I saw Mrs. > Manzanera & Spedding giving it their best. > > Well: the second song was, as usual, Ladytron. PHIL MANZANERA BROKE A STRING > ON THE FINAL SOLO AND STARTED SMASHING THE GUITAR AGAINST THE GROUND. > But really!! He smashed it for ten times at least!!! I could not believe in > my eyes!! > It was like being into something historic!!! > Oh I suffered a lot because: the solo was so brilliant and, mostly, because > the guitar was so beautiful, mother of pearl in colour, all very Manzanera. > Has he ever done it before??? > He even kicked the guitar!!! > And it was only the second song!!! (the audience roared). > It was such a surprise!!! (It was not typical of Roxy, I think, but hey, now > it is). > > The band did not perform The Thrill of it All as had been reported. > The reviews that appeared on the galizian papers were excellent, but they > were mistaken in some songs. They said they played "If There is Something", > "Mother of Pearl" among others , and they didn't. > I don't know if it was because of Paul Young's eternal performance or if it > was because they had thought in playing less songs. > Yes, the set list was changed: it was reduced. > They did not play "Street Life" either. They played, however, "More Than > This (which is a big hit in Spain, a classic in Spanish bars) and "While My > Heart is Still Beating". The rest did not vary. > > Bryan voice improved with the songs. He didn't shout the "Oh, Yeah!", but I > don't know why, he really seemed to be able to sing it. His singing was > brilliant, and he really seemed to give himself to the public, much more > than I ever thought he would!!! > He even spoke in galizian!!! > He sometimes asked for the response of the audience, and he said "you are a > great audience". Phil also spoke at the end of the show, in Spanish: > "Un placer", and some other things I don't remember, strangely. > > The band was very good. Guitar and sax solos were greatly welcome by the > audience. Also the two girls, Julia Thornton and Lucy Wilkins got a big > applause ;) The audience clapped along to a lot of the songs; I think palms > and guitars are somehow in the Spanish genes. Roxy really seemed to > appreciate it, and you could feel a good communication between the band and > the audience. At the beginning, the audience was a bit cold, maybe because > they were "full of respect"; that's what I think and I don't think I'm > wrong. > > TGPT was brilliant. I really wanted to see him (btw, I got his autograph as > well!!), and he is really part of the Roxy soul. Bryan referred to him as > The great Paul Thompson. > > As usual, Bryan wore three suits. How incredible the last one, the silver > one in silk lami! You can understand how moved I felt as he sang "A Song > for Europe" in his white tux. Bryan seems to be more "Ferry" that way. He's > more himself. > > Well... it was as nice as dream could be and better than any dream about a > Roxy show I had ever had. The first and the last in my life. The audience > was greatly satisfied. That was a concert, that was a band, that was Roxy > Music. > The woman of the galizian couple told me "I would have been for hours in > here". > > It was one of my happiest times ever, I must reckon it. > > I'm sorry not only for my English, but also because of the lack of structure > in this review. I had to tell many things. > I don't know if you have realized how important this all was for me. > I hope you have and maybe our feelings are similar. > > The next day I had to take the bus... this time it was 9 hours to Madrid. > But for this: I could do it every week. > I am so happy about it that I don't feel sad at all that I will not see them > again. > I feel thankful. > Two hours of pure pleasure. > > I bought the local papers before going to Madrid. Great pics of Bryan in the > cover. Nice, respectful and very positive reviews. I even appear in a photo > of the crowd in La voz de Galicia, with my cousin!!! :))) > The pics on this paper were great: Manzanera smashing his guitar as Bryan > looks at him. > On the cover: Bryan Ferry looking like a crucifix, as he croons. It's one > the best photos I've seen of him, and I've seen a lot. The journalists also > mentioned that the concert it was a melting pot,. > > So now I have to say yesterday's show is one of the best nights in my life, > and I don't regret to say it. A pleasure from beginning to end. > > This will remain in my memory for as long as I keep breathing. > And............... > Thank you ALL so much for taking the time to listen. > > All the Best > Sincerely > "Ignacio "Nacho" Peyro", Madrid, Spain > > > In closing may I say, "Thank you! Nacho". > > Regards > > John Dillon > Who is now very ready for New York! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #287 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest