From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #252 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, June 25 2001 Volume 06 : Number 252 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Eve's Apple ["thom.wallace" ] Re: [AVALON] UK radio broadcast ["Sebastian Fasthuber" ] [AVALON] Japan only CD [David Firmin ] RE: [AVALON] Japan only CD ["Heather James" ] Re: [AVALON] Positive! Positive! A good day... ["Grant Goggans" ] [AVALON] The "Jack Kirby" Wrap up [jmdillon@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] Ian Hunter's new cd [jmdillon@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] ok, hands up! [stevesiren ] Re: [AVALON] Positive! Positive! A good day... [RiseGluck@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:34:34 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eve's Apple - ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Pepperrell To: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:04 PM Subject: [AVALON] Eve's Apple > I would probably have thrown the book in uncontrollable terms in T. Wallace's face when > I read his(your) first mail. > I'm off to Munich tomorrow- looking forward to the concert. > If you are there T. Wallace I'll buy you a drink and I'd > be pleased to exchange views/ideas/our love for BF/RM. Sounds as though drinking with you could be quite a dangerous event. If we ever do meet remind me to bring a crash helmet and a very long straw. Tom. PS, What the heck are the "Penthouse tapes". ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:55:44 +0200 From: "Sebastian Fasthuber" Subject: Re: [AVALON] UK radio broadcast >>it has been posted in alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.2000s. oh! but i never get the to dl those things from newsgroups cause it seems my mail program only gets parts of the files. can someone from the list please put it in their shared directory of "audiogalaxy", "audiognome", "morpheus" or whatever and report afterwards??? thanks! best, sebastian - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Rosencutter To: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] UK radio broadcast > This person wants $10 for a CD-R. If you'd rather download it for free, > > > > If anyone wants a copy of the UK radio broadcast of > > the Glasgow concert, details here: > > > > http://www.videoinguk.com/roxymusic/radio.htm > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:02:50 +0000 From: g.r.firmin@att.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] Things Roxy Nothing wrong with comic books my friend. Wallace Wood and Jack Kirby were phenomenal talents. > I'm sure I read somewhere that Brian Eno would be witnessing the Roxy shows > at least once and I made the assumption that this would be in London. > > So if Eno is to have a guest spot, tonight's the night! > > (Actually, I have to acknowledge that Eno's absence from the original line-up > present in 2001 has made very little difference to the overall sound. I can > see that a man who can afford to buy St Petersburg would not see a role for > himself in the sonics area in the 2001 world tour.) > > So security even got Reecey to sit down? It took them a whole song to > persuade the guy stage right who stood with a child on his shoulders, holding > its arms out wide, effectively blocking a space about 8ft tall and 4ft wide. > Honest, I'm all for dancing - once the people in front of me stood up, I > shook that feather with the best of them. But what possesses someone at the > very front of the > audience to think they can stand with another person on their shoulders with > their pairs of arms spread-eagled? This concert nazi says they should be shot > on sight... > > What other fantasies do I harbour? Oh yes, could we stop the comic book > debate? > > Richard > > n/p Iggy Pop - Beat 'Em Up > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:30:40 +0000 From: g.r.firmin@att.net Subject: RE:Re: [AVALON] Express Review : worth reading Hey, this reviewer guy is right. "Misguided souls". Eloquently put. > Travis? "Flowers In The Window"? Why so depressing? A great band! No? > > BEAUX. Or contact my Mobile E-Mail at ; beaux@orange.net > > On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 08:23:25 +0000 "Martin Stockman" > wrote: > Received: from smoe.org ([66.89.201.78]) by smtp.cwctv.net with > Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:34:31 +0100 > Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org > (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id EAA02325; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 > 04:25:26 -0400 (EDT) > Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:25:20 > -0400 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) > id EAA02188 for avalon-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:24:16 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from rhenium (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by > smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id EAA02175 for > ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 04:24:10 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from [213.122.244.4] (helo=[213.122.244.4]) by rhenium with > esmtp (Exim 3.22 #9) id 15DijL-0003zL-00 for avalon@smoe.org; Sat, 23 > Jun 2001 09:25:24 +0100 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) > Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 08:23:25 +0000 > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Express Review : worth reading > From: "Martin Stockman" > To: avalon@smoe.org > Mime-version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Message-Id: > X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c > X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain > Sender: owner-avalon@smoe.org > Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org > Precedence: bulk > Return-Path: owner-avalon@smoe.org > > A pal of mine called Jeremy Novick is the Music hack for the Daily Express > and he wrote the following review about Glasgow. Worth reading not just for > his unadulterated love of Roxy but also for the despair he imparts for a > modern world that deifies Travis. > > June 15 > > LIVE > > Roxy Music **** > SECC, Glasgow > > Frankly, my dear, I don9t give a damn. Who cares if Roxy Music9s reunion was > inspired by a tax bill, a concern about the Greenhouse Effect or Gus Poyet > signing for Spurs. The best band that ever there was (don9t you just love > these impartial critics?) were back and while doubts persisted, they were > outweighed by the joy. But > could Ferry, at 56, still cut it? Could Andy > Mackay? Would Phil Manzanera remember to hit his regulation number of bum > notes? Listen, it9s been 18 years since they toured > > > When the lights dimmed and we heard that familiar chinking glasses and party > chatter - the opening to Re-Make/Re-Model, a noise that wasn9t so much a > song opening as a statement of intent - you9d have had to be a soulless soul > not to have felt the hairs on your neck shiver ever so slightly. > > Of course, they all looked depressingly good. Sharp and stylish, Ferry > slipped effortlessly into lounge lizard mode, changing jackets to go over > the leather strides - predictably the white tuxedo got the cheer - while > Mackay was a revelation on oboe and sax. The requisite dancing girls filled > in the spaces. > > Any Roxy crowd is going to be split between two camps: those tastemeisters > who know that their first two albums are the finest records ever made and > the misguided souls who go for the smooth mainstream soul/pop of the later > years. In Glasgow there was no doubt that where crowd9s sympathies were - > distressingly, the dreaded On The Radio song got the biggest cheer of the > night - but by the time we got to an exhilarating Editions Of You, the 8,000 > crowd were ready to "Woooo" on cue with the stinky sirens. > > The set slipped between the two sections - Virginia Plain, Song For Europe, > Love Is The Drug, Avalon, Jealous Guy > - and, allowing for a half hour or so > warming up period, they blew hot. Things ended on a very Roxy note. > Eschewing the big show stopping exit, they left us with the spooky, > dischordant For Your Pleasure and as its fading refrain of "Old man, through > every step I change. You watch me walk away > Tara > " filled the cavernous > arena, a bittersweet mood filled the air. The problem, you see, is that the > return of Roxy makes you think about Travis and that9s just depressing. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 18:54:31 +0000 From: g.r.firmin@att.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT Kirby... (with Ferry refs!) Why is this guy so down on Kirby. Granted, he may not be a comic fan. But to say things like that about the acknowledged "King of Comics" is a bit uncool. I wish I had a scanner, I have two prized pictures taken with Jack and believe you me it was a thrill. Last year at San Diego I met several other old time pros and was impressed how nice all the fans were (literally thousands) and the artists. Comic people are very cool. > >Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 16:58:36 +0200 > >From: Daniel Atterbom > >Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT Kirby... (with Ferry refs!) > > >And I, living in a country with a social democratic gov't, thought that > >the US was a country were sales is a main instrument. :-) > > ...for proving someone's art has merit? > > >This not being the case in Europe were Tintin and Asterix are more popular > >then Kirby's superheroes, the only American figures to compete are > >Disney's. > > Likewise, neither Tintin nor Asterix have ever sold in America. I don't > even know that an American publisher has ever licensed them. But that > doesn't mean I have the right to call Herge's work without merit. Even > without having read very much Tintin (and no Asterix), I can certainly see > how hugely popular they are in Europe, and I wouldn't dare dis their creator > as being without merit. Now, there are 240 million people in my nation, and > every man jack one of us knows who Captain America is, even if only a teeny > tiny number buy Captain America comics today. If you're just talking > popularity, why isn't Kirby deserving of your respect, but Herge is > deserving of mine? > > >That Kirby inspired people to draw is like saying that Velvet Underground > >inspired people to play. > > *blank stare*. If you're comparing Jack Kirby to Lou Reed and John Cale, > then congratulations. You've just conceded the argument, as far as I can > see... > > >But Barks is held in high esteem in Europe... > > Yeah, but my point is that the US media doesn't hold *any* comics creator, > with the exception of Schulz, in any sort of esteem. Hank Ketchum died last > month. The American "Dennis the Menace" runs in the Atlanta paper, and they > buried his obit somewhere on page B6 or something. > > Don't get me wrong; Barks was a genius, and your media was correct to > eulogize him like they did. But you're using his local eulogy to prove your > point by saying that Kirby wasn't eulogized in America, but you're > overlooking American media's disdain or apathy towards comics. > > >Barks created Scrooge McDuck, a better symbol for the US then Kirby's (and > >Simon's) Captain America. > > A capitalistic, greedy, money-hoarding asshole is a better symbol for the US > than a character who loves his country, fights for truth and justice and > spent the early 1940s inspiring our kids to support their fathers and older > brothers dying on the battlefield in World War Two?? > > A "more accurate" symbol, tragically, yes. I have, to put it politely, > "issues" with your use of the word "better." > > >My view is that few of Kirby's stories are worthwhile re-reading as an > >adult. If there was money to make on Kirby, why isn't he reprinted like > >Carl Barks or Hergi? > > You are perhaps unaware that: a) There's very little money to make on comics > period in the US and b) Great big chunks of Kirby are still in print. > > > >Kirby's comics are for juveniles. Superheroes is something I left behind > >when I discovered girls... > > If you want to use apocyphal examples, I personally left talking ducks > behind when I discovered how to spell. > > >The editor of The Comics Journal, Gary Groth, was the driving force behind > >the now cancelled Kirby awards. > > And I imagine the editors of heavy metal magazines might own a few Beatles > records. Their readers, however, tend to not. And the overwhelming > majority of Comic Journal readers are readers who actively and vocally hate > the publishers and genres where Kirby worked! > > >To answer Grant Goggans' question: Well, how exactly do you qualify > >"genius"? > > > >That's a bit harder, me writing in a strange language and all. I would say > >that their work have been inventive and lasting. From my viewpoint Kirby > >does not qualify. > > Well, here's the difference between you and I. Tintin has had zero impact > in America. Asterix? That big expensive, high-grossing feature film hasn't > even found a *direct-to-videotape* distributor in America. Yet I would > never dare call the work of their creators "meritless" simply because I have > the insight to know and the wisdom to see that they have had major cultural > impact on the people of yours' and others' nations, and they fuel readers' > imaginations, and they inspire your countrymen to create. Why you can't > give Kirby the same respect utterly baffles me. > > Kirby's work has left little impact on Europe, apart from > >the UK. Not being American I can hardly be expected to have an American > >point of view -- I dislike capital punishment and not standing by the Kyoto > >protocol as well :-) > > Gee, thanks, dude. I don't particularly like Ace of Base or those shit > films that Bergman's untalented boy is directing, either, but I'll be sure > to qualify those as being a Swedish point of view. > > --G. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:20:38 -0500 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] UK radio broadcast If anybody is looking to download these MP3s, I'll be logged on to Morpheus this evening. Download the Morpheus software at www.musiccity.com. Once logged on, a search for "Roxy" and "Glasgow" should find it. My user id is bogusman@MusicCity.com. btw, the first track, "Street Life", starts in at the end of the second verse. I'd like to have the whole thing, if anybody has it. Here is the track listing: 1. Street Life 2. Ladytron 3. Out of the Blue 4. A Song for Europe 5. Oh Yeah 6. Both Ends Burning 7. If There is Something 8. Mother of Pearl 9. Jealous Guy 10. Editions of You 11. Virginia Plain 12. Do The Strand ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:54:12 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT Kirby... (with Ferry refs!) At 18.54 +0000 1-06-24, g.r.firmin@att.net wrote: >Why is this guy so down on Kirby. Granted, he may not be >a comic fan. But to say things like that about the >acknowledged "King of Comics" is a bit uncool. I wish I >had a scanner, I have two prized pictures taken with >Jack and believe you me it was a thrill. Last year at >San Diego I met several other old time pros and was >impressed how nice all the fans were (literally >thousands) and the artists. Comic people are very cool. I think that Kirby is overrated. I am a comic fan. I spent the better part of ten years editing a magazine about comics. Unlike Roxy Music and it's members work Kirby's work do not age well. NP Lionel Richie "Louder than Words" (talking about uncool). Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:33:18 +0000 From: g.r.firmin@att.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT Kirby... (with Ferry refs!) I'm not the Kirby nut that I once was. What do you think of Wally Wood? > At 18.54 +0000 1-06-24, g.r.firmin@att.net wrote: > >Why is this guy so down on Kirby. Granted, he may not be > >a comic fan. But to say things like that about the > >acknowledged "King of Comics" is a bit uncool. I wish I > >had a scanner, I have two prized pictures taken with > >Jack and believe you me it was a thrill. Last year at > >San Diego I met several other old time pros and was > >impressed how nice all the fans were (literally > >thousands) and the artists. Comic people are very cool. > > I think that Kirby is overrated. I am a comic fan. I spent the better part > of ten years editing a magazine about comics. > > Unlike Roxy Music and it's members work Kirby's work do not age well. > > NP Lionel Richie "Louder than Words" (talking about uncool). > > Daniel > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:38:48 +0100 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Things Roxy - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: [AVALON] Things Roxy >.... > Honest, I'm all for dancing - once the people in front of me stood up, I > shook that feather with the best of them. But what possesses someone at the > very front of the > Wasn't I called a bully and a nazi for this kind of behaviour? Were you blocking nobodies view from behind you Richard? If so did you offer to sit down, or assist, as I did? Toodle pip. Neil Jones. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:09:29 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Japan only CD Have you seen this? Looks pretty cool. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1441004466 Some bloke is already selling the tour book on eBay. Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 19:50:12 -0400 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Japan only CD Got a copy already from AB-CD www.ab-cd.com. ... Its not bad if you need yet another darned Greatest Hits type album ... but some of the remixes are kind of strange ... 1. The 'In' Crowd 2. You Go To My Head 3. This is Tomorrow 4. Sign of the Times 5. Slave to Love (12" Remix) 6. Don't Stop The Dance (Special 12" Remix) 7. Is Your Love Strong Enough? (Full Version) 8. The Right Stuff (Single Mix) 9. Kiss and Tell (Dance Mix) 10. Limbo (Latin Mix) 11. Lets Stick Together (Westside '88 Remix) 12. The Price of Love (The R&B '89 Remix) 13. I Put a Spell on You 14. Your Painted Smile 15. Don't Stop The Dance 16. Slave To Love 17. Tokyo Joe In short - What anorak could say no??? -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ MCC MidAtlantic District: http://www.mcc-midatl.org Heather's WebGal Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music Pages: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >--------------------------------------------------------------< > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > David Firmin > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 7:09 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Japan only CD > > > Have you seen this? Looks pretty cool. > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1441004466 > > Some bloke is already selling the tour book on eBay. > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:19:06 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Positive! Positive! A good day... >Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 15:53:21 +0200 >From: Daniel Atterbom >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Positive! Positive! A good day... > >Grant, I will personally send you a CD of a live 2001 Roxy concert if it >comes my way. See, folks? Arguments can be undertaken without getting ugly and spiteful and personal. Likewise, Daniel. I'll let you know should I receive one. - --G. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:25:29 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Live trades, no tree >Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:35:14 -0400 >From: KB Porter >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Live trades, no tree. > >Thom: > >You can't play both sides of the fence without getting caught on the >pickets now and then. I read the three conditions your "friend" has >made about trading his boots. Of course, your "friend" is Jim Lawn. KB, you know I think you're the best thing since sliced bread, and that my opinion of Jim Lawn is not what a small mammal might consider high, but does it matter whether Jim Lawn or Lim Jawn or George Lucas made the recordings? So Thom has a patron with a large collection who doesn't want to share. His identity is completely irrelevant. I frankly couldn't care less who he is. Besides, his anonymity protects him from being called a selfish asswipe in public. - --G. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:57:44 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Live trades, no tree. >Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:39:09 -0700 >From: William Sommers >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Live trades, no tree. > >Perhaps. I'm firmly of the school that the best way to diminish bootleg >profiteering is to pull the rug from under the market by getting the >recordings into the hands of the would-be consumers. It might ease the >source's conscience to place no-tree conditions on a trade, but it's >ultimately counterproductive -- the bootleggers are going to get their >copies no matter what, and the close-to-chest traders only help ensure that >the market for the "industry" they claim to despise remains out there, >healthy as ever. And you're completely correct on every front in principal, except perhaps regarding the market's health. Interestingly, every drop of research I read about commercial bootlegs -- and there is a wealth of fascinating material out there -- indicates that the vast bulk of the leggers *weren't* greedy assholes. Prices have always been high because material had to be produced in bulk to get a low per unit cost, but investing in bulk for production of a black market item automatically results in higher retail prices. That doesn't mean the brains behind The Amazing Kornyphone or whoever are lighting cigars with $100 bills like Robert Stigwood did. Home burners have downsized the industry massively, and the $22 per-disc price point is only getting sales from people who honestly don't know better. Ask any dealer you know: bootleg sales are falling. (Well, at least in the southeast US.) And you can thank home burners, and the alt.music.bootlegs newsgroup, and mailing lists. Try selling a $22 boot on a.m.b. The regulars will remove your sphincter. Now, I happen to know a few commercial sellers and am acquainted with manufacturers of two local "companies," one of which is lowering prices to retailers from $15 to $10, and one of which has always been $10, but is dropping to $5! They allege that their profits, such as they are, go right back into acquiring and printing new stuff at lower costs. Perhaps five years ago, Thom Wallace's mysterious friend had a valid concern -- assuming the friend personally did not want, say, KTS of Italy to put out a $22 Bryan Ferry bootleg. But come on, KTS is gone. So are most of their contemporaries. What's left and thriving are CDs that retail for *less* than authorized CDs. And sure, I'd rather have gotten it in trade for free, but paying $10 for the Tori Amos boot I got this weekend seems like chump change since it was on a better CD-R than the stores here carry, I didn't have to buy the jewelbox, the inserts were printed with a better printer than my own, I didn't have to hunt for it, work out a swap, have the uncertainty about a bad trader, or even wait for it. One Alexander Hamilton equals one 1994 Tori Amos concert, which, I might add, I can now (well, give it a bit, I'm busy now) pass along to other folks. I guess what I'm saying is... I understand that people don't want nasty evildoers to get rich off Roxy Music. But, well, who in their right mind is going to bother? Obviously nobody wants to do a show of hands in public, but if anyone genuinely plans to sell $22 Roxy Music CDs in this market, drop me a line privately. I'm very curious. Your confidentiality assured, after I first laugh at what a dumbo you must be to try. (Unless of course someone is seeing $30 Roxy bootlegs sell like hotcakes in New York City, in which case I'll shut up.) - --G. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:39:54 -0700 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: [AVALON] Ian Hunter's new cd Ian, of Mott The Hoople fame, has a new cd of new material titled "Rant". I recommend it for any Ian or Mott fan's. He still knows how to rock. Keith ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:43:27 -0400 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: [AVALON] The "Jack Kirby" Wrap up Well little did I think when I recognized the "Jet" album cover as Mr. Miracle, a character created by the late, great Jack Kirby, and did some reminiscing of my childhood comic collecting days that I would have launched such an off topic flurry. My indirect apologies to those who could care less. But my many warm thanks to those who took this to heart and ran with it. In closing, I also I agree with Mr. Goggans regarding the influence of Jack Kirby on the US comic industry and its readership. Years ago as an aspiring young artist / illustrator I also found it incredibly difficult to put down a an issue and not head right to the drawing board and draw. Jack to me, like no other in his time, could put so much into a frame. The energy, composition and raw power were unmatched. His panels had that cinematic story board quality. To me, he had a knack of choreographing the characters so their movement from drawing to drawing physically made sense. And his renderings of futuristically technology along side his characters made it all seem to work as if the stuff it already existed. To me, Jack Kirby and the other great ones likes of Steve Ditko, Jim Steranko, Neal Adams, Barry Windsor Smith, Jim Starlin & Frank Miller and many others will always have a place in my heart. For what they created inside and were able to bring out through the artistic movement of their hand and offer to me visually, I will always be in awe. Thanks for participating and thanks for listening. Regards John Dillon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:46:22 -0400 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ian Hunter's new cd Keith Small world, I had just read some outstanding reviews on this very CD and it is now on my must get list. Regards John D - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Shockley" To: Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 2:39 AM Subject: [AVALON] Ian Hunter's new cd > Ian, of Mott The Hoople fame, has a new cd of new material titled "Rant". I > recommend it for any Ian or Mott fan's. He still knows how to rock. > > Keith > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:50:36 +0100 From: stevesiren Subject: Re: [AVALON] ok, hands up! Kt Were you the one with the album covers on the t shirt? if so I sitting just behind the miserable woman who asked security to get you to sit down, well done you for resisting! I must admit however I find it difficult to "boogie " to My Only Love & Tara. I think Ferry was pointing to the steward, gesturing to tell him to let everyone come forward, instead of "persuading" them back to their seats, although I could be wrong. Steve Ktwicked@aol.com wrote: > who were the mad guys on the left hand side at the front last night ( 23rd) > at wembley?! > wish i was over there with you, i was the only one up and dancing in all of > A2 and A3. got told off by damn sercurity men when i went up to the front, > but it was well worth it. > i went to wembley on 22nd too, met up with Guy, only to leave him about > 5minutes in as i decided to run into the front row where i stayed for the > rest of the night. much eye contact was had by me and bry! > me looking very foolish by dancing on me own paid off, bryan did a > kinda pointing thing at me towards the end, i was bit shocked but dad said > people turned to look. > my home made roxy t-shirt seem to last though! anyone reconise me? > anyway hope you guys who are going tonight have fun. tell bryan i say hi! > ktx > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 02:14:49 EDT From: RiseGluck@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Positive! Positive! A good day... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #252 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest