From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #229 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, June 16 2001 Volume 06 : Number 229 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Whiskey (OT) ["Ivor Canning" ] [AVALON] Memories of Dublin ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown ["thom.wallace" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy on your (internet) radio - suggestion for title ["thom.] Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown [Colleen Matan ] RE:Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown [beauxb@cwctv.net] Re: [AVALON] Melody Maker article to Grant [Adrew Howard ] Re: [AVALON] bringing the kids? ["Laura Shadbolt" ] [AVALON] Merchandise ["Laura Shadbolt" ] Re: [AVALON] am I crazy enough? [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] a trainspotter's remark [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Nottingham [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] children of the revolution [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Whiskey (OT) [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Merchandise ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] Merchandise ["Martin Stockman" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:11:10 +0100 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Whiskey (OT) "Original Grant to Distil (1608)" confuses whiskey for Queen lyrics: > Irish whiskeys, such as Bushmiller Bushmiller ? NO - I will not let you go (let him go !) Bushmiller ? etc etc As an Ulsterman born and bred I cannot allow such an error to go unchecked - you are referring to the water of life produced by the BUSHMILLS distillery - the oldest licenced distillery in the world (hence the 1608 reference in my opening comment). The Irish, of course, invented whiskey and took it with them to Scotland way back in the mists of Celtic time, or even earlier (that should stir things up nicely ....!!) Whatever, I'll pit 'Black Bush' (a single malt and a single grain) against most Scotch malts any day. There is also a 10 year old Bushmills Malt commonly available and (as I discovered last week in Dublin) even a 21 year old version. S8^O More than one Avalonian on this list will attest to my tireless championing of the original 'amber nectar' (and some have even fallen prey to its charms...) However, like any good whiskey, it is best drunk neat without dilution. The danger is that one drinks too quickly to be sociable, so something mixable is in order, hence m'learned colleague's penchant for JD which I found went down well in Newcastle. Anyway, isn't Jack Daniels a bit more 'rock and roll' than Scotch ?? Regards, Ivor (just getting over tendonitis...) n.p. 'Why Do You Think I'm A Funky Chick ?' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:07:26 +0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: [AVALON] Memories of Dublin * Siver sharkskin (on honeymoon) jacket - coup de theatre. Formidable. * Audacious opening with R/R. Multo democratico. No frontman, Memory torque reverse to Roundhouse 73. * Irish audience a strange mix of hardcore and locals out for a night's entertainment. Hence the amiable chatter during the more outre' numbers. "That Roxy showband is grand." * Concerns about Reecey and Jocelyn's health. (Status ?) * Thundersticks on fire * The Return of Eddie Riff. How strange in contrast sax can be. A storming performance, as if the TOTP debacle never happened. * The Maestro will impove as the tour progresses (a la ATGB.) Vocals patchy, showmanship / glamour still there, I felt he was concentrating on not fluffing the lyrics half the time. * If there is something. What a great song. Il Ferrari visibly moved during "Lift up your feet" outro. * Mr Fedder and I marvelled at the pre-prandial offering : Eno's Music for Airports segueing into South Downs (Ambient Wars : The Final Countdown). How we twittered, Frasier-style, about the mischief, the irony, the wit of our Cool Ruler. Later, in a toilet / pub on the banks of the Liffey, we would find out that this pre-gig soundtrack was the momentary whim of Fiske / Reece / Canning / McCormack. * Am I alone in thinking that Spedding looked like a dodgy ticket collector on the 73 bus ? * Wonderful how Spedding's rhythmn allows Phil full rein on his solos. I recall Both Ends Burning at Wembley '75 when Manzo struggled to create the sweeping "fire in the soul" groove AND flourish the fret-burning solos. The result, then, had been half-baked and thin. Now we have a gorgeous fuller sound. * I also enjoyed Colin's beautiful introduction to Song For Europe. * Although these songs are the work of one genius, the former Chronicle delivery boy as the Newcastle local paper charmingly coined, this concert has left me in no doubt that there is a distinctive Roxy sound. Whether its Andy's honking reed, Phil's sonic guitar vibe, Paul's thudding horse-hoof pounding, or all of the above, it's undoubtedly a unique aural cocktail. As if I'd forgotten ! Viva Roxy, Viva Avalon Martino ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:40:16 EDT From: LeeSullivn@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Whiskey (OT) In a message dated 6/16/01 9:29:48 AM GMT Daylight Time, ivor.canning@cwcom.net writes: > However, like any good whiskey, it is best drunk neat without dilution. Thank God someone else thinks this is the case. Water? WATER? As for Rock'n'roll, asking for a glass of Jack does sound more hep than a glass of Bush - even if the end result isn't quite the same. ____________________________________________ Easily distracted? Displacement activity a problem? Me too. Going to: www.LeeSullivan.co.uk won't help either . . . ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 05:32:51 EDT From: LeeSullivn@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] ThunderWhoRoxy etc. Okay, Roxy Doxies - if you want a little more of my current daft tributes to RM in comic strip form, please go to . . . http://hometown.aol.co.uk/leesullivanart/myhomepage/family.html see you in Brum tonight. Viva! ____________________________________________ Easily distracted? Displacement activity a problem? Me too. Going to: www.LeeSullivan.co.uk won't help either . . . ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:17:11 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on your (internet) radio The Glasgow concert, or at least an > >hour of it, will be broadcast on BBC Radio 2 in the UK at 8.00PM, Saturday > >the 23rd of June. It will also be broadcast ON THE INTERNET by clicking the > >link at this address at the appropriate time: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/ > > I am counting on someone to turn this into a CD. :-) > > Daniel I would love to do the final editing: filtering possible fm noise, balance the channels and bring the volume to maximum., and finally make a nice cover in the best Roxytradition. Anyone out there who can make a good recording on that evening? Any suggestion for a good tittle: TARA? Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:45:41 -0400 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on your (internet) radio On 16 Jun 2001, at 2:08, Chris Turner wrote: > I apologise in advance for Richard Allinson. LOL! IMO he tries to come over as the thinking person's Steve Wright. Which really is nothing to aspire to... David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:45:41 -0400 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Memories of Dublin On 16 Jun 2001, at 9:07, Martin Stockman wrote: > Although these songs are the work of one genius, the former Chronicle > delivery boy as the Newcastle local paper charmingly coined, this > concert has left me in no doubt that there is a distinctive Roxy sound. > Whether its Andy's honking reed, Phil's sonic guitar vibe, Paul's > thudding horse-hoof pounding, or all of the above, it's undoubtedly a > unique aural cocktail. Agreed! M 'n' M, The Even Greater Than Ever PT (+Eno & Jobson) over the years contributed an exotic and unique context within which Ferry's songs existed. Perhaps the perestroika we have undoubtedly seen on this tour emanates from a realization of this. Spedding, Good, Wilkins and Katz are also essential ingredients in this valedictory renaissance. Oh dear, it has to be said - Roxy Rule, O.K.? :-) David (still emotional) - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:51:57 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Johnny=20Reece?= Subject: [AVALON] of Reviews and Whisk(e)y... Love the reviews that have been pouring in, but 2 of them particularly stick in my mind. David Squires write-up particularly summed up how amazing, how exciting it all was - you could almost hear the gig between the lines of it - fabulous. And, of course, Martinots earlier observations - pointers flashing from the screen like headlines from a newspaper. Love it. And btw, health is ok Martinot (I think !) - one of those 24 hour bugs threatened me in Dublin, but the best cure was adrenalin - stopped it in it's tracks.... I like to think it was a touch of Roxy magic that did the trick, of course. As for Whisk(e)y - I'm not really a fan. (String him up !) But JD and C is a fine after-gig livener, freezing cold over ice. And yes, Mr. Canning, your travelling companions are somewhat more clued-up now about the long, long history of the Bushmills Distillery. I know you'll be asking questions later, on the way to Brum this very afternoon. Johnny Reece (C-plus, failed ) Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:44:56 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on your (internet) radio In a message dated 16/06/01 10:47:58 GMT Daylight Time, snijders.geest@hetnet.nl writes: > <> How about "This is Roxy Music"?..... "Tara" sounds as though we are saying goodbye to them before we've had the chance to say hello, again, and that we all talk like Cilla Black! JF. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:14:01 EDT From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] a trainspotter's remark In a message dated 06/15/2001 5:26:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, J.Collard@btinternet.com writes: > . And ecstatic if they play All I Want is > And in my dream, Bryan steps to the mike and announces, "We're going to play our Country Life album straight through, okay?" And the crowd roars. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:48:19 -0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on your (internet) radio - suggestion for title Hi Han Suggestion for title: " Don't mind these people..." I haven't had time to read the reviews yet but I'm sure someone has noted that BF urged the audince to come to the front and bypass the security guards with the words above - in a way I feel it sums up the audience atmosphere at Glasgow and the whole event. If someone has already suggested similar, my apologies, I haven't had time to read all these mails yet. Regards, Andrew >From: "Han Snijders" >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on your (internet) radio >Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:17:11 +0200 > > The Glasgow concert, or at least an > > >hour of it, will be broadcast on BBC Radio 2 in the UK at 8.00PM, >Saturday > > >the 23rd of June. It will also be broadcast ON THE INTERNET by clicking >the > > >link at this address at the appropriate time: >http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/ > > > > I am counting on someone to turn this into a CD. :-) > > > > Daniel > >I would love to do the final editing: filtering possible fm noise, balance >the channels and bring the volume to maximum., and finally make a nice >cover >in the best Roxytradition. >Anyone out there who can make a good recording on that evening? > >Any suggestion for a good tittle: TARA? > >Han > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 07:56:36 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Richard Allinson/Darkness Falls Chris said: >Please don't leave it until the last minute to set it up to avoid >disappointment. I apologise in advance for Richard Allinson. I'm glad someone has. Boy, I thought we had the market on insincere fakes pretending to be jolly deejaying in this country. *shiver* Oh, yeah, and while I'm thinking of it, the mammoth article Paul transcribed is now up at Always Unknowing. Big round of applause for Paul, who was working at lightning speed from microscopic, smudgy print. Who will be next...? http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion/ferry.html - --G. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:13:11 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Neil Hubbard Being 40+ my memory is not what it used to be. Am I right to think that Alan Spenner passed away some years ago, but Neil Hubbard is still with us? If so, where there any plans for Neil Hubbard to tour with Roxy Music? And what has he been doing lately? NP "Avalon". Reply to "Middle-aged man with less brain that he used to have". Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:17:26 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown > Now, David, you know you're not allowed to have your own opinion when the > anti-backup singer crowd has spoken. > > Colleen So how come a minority on the list would deny myself and others from voicing our opinions on this topic. In the past I've had to endure the shrieking of the sirens in '75, the bland and boring in '82 and the totally naff on the Bete Noir and Mamouna tours. These people have done nothing to enhance the songs that they were performing and in most cases all but ruined some. They all seem to lack any understanding of the songs that they are performing. You may not agree with my opinion, but that is too bad, aftre all if we all were in agreement on everything it would make for a pretty dull and bland list. Now that does sound like the warblings of Thornton & co. After hearing of Miss Browns involvement in "Dream Home" then I must say tht I'm not looking forward to it, after all I remember the crap backing vocals on the performances of this song on the Bete Noir tour. Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:21:01 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on your (internet) radio - suggestion for title - ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Shearer To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on your (internet) radio - suggestion for title > I haven't had time to read the reviews yet but I'm sure someone has noted > that BF urged the audince to come to the front and bypass the security > guards with the words above - in a way I feel it sums up the audience > atmosphere at Glasgow and the whole event. From the behaviour of a couple of the security personnel on monday I'd like to suggest "Hang em high" somthing that a number of folk at the front would certainly have been happy with. Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:38:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, thom.wallace wrote: > > Now, David, you know you're not allowed to have your own opinion > > when the anti-backup singer crowd has spoken. > > > > Colleen > > So how come a minority on the list would deny myself and others from > voicing our opinions on this topic. In the past I've had to endure the > shrieking of the sirens in '75, the bland and boring in '82 and the > totally naff on the Bete Noir and Mamouna tours. These people have > done nothing to enhance the songs that they were performing and in > most cases all but ruined some. They all seem to lack any > understanding of the songs that they are performing. > > You may not agree with my opinion, but that is too bad, aftre all if > we all were in agreement on everything it would make for a pretty dull > and bland list. Now that does sound like the warblings of Thornton & > co. After hearing of Miss Browns involvement in "Dream Home" then I > must say tht I'm not looking forward to it, after all I remember the > crap backing vocals on the performances of this song on the Bete Noir > tour. I'm sorry Tom, obviously for you I meant to write: > Now, David, you know you're not allowed to have your own opinion > when the anti-backup singer crowd has spoken. although I hear that some folks prefer the ";-)" at the end instead, so please take your pick. Colleen (who always holds the same opinions as everyone else and therefore of course cowers at the first sign of disagreement. Now about that whisk(e)y discussion...) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 14:34:52 +0100 From: beauxb@cwctv.net Subject: RE:Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown I'm sorry....I really can't get into the minutae of all this. A big deal about a backing singer? THIS is my MANTRA! ; TONIGHT!..LIVE ON STAGE! ROXY MUSIC!!! (SOLD OUT) To me, this is ALL! This is EVERYTHING! BEAUX. Or contact my Mobile E-Mail at ; beaux@orange.net On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:38:10 -0400 (EDT) Colleen Matan wrote: Received: from smoe.org ([209.58.179.86]) by smtp.cwctv.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:42:42 +0100 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id IAA21294; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:37:14 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id IAA21263 for avalon-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (cjem@herndon10.his.com [209.67.207.13]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id IAA21258 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (cjem@localhost) by mail.his.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22423 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:38:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:38:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan To: Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown In-Reply-To: <003901c0f65e$4f62af00$bc7c68d5@f7q4a3> Message-ID: x-no-archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-avalon@smoe.org Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Return-Path: owner-avalon@smoe.org On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, thom.wallace wrote: > > Now, David, you know you're not allowed to have your own opinion > > when the anti-backup singer crowd has spoken. > > > > Colleen > > So how come a minority on the list would deny myself and others from > voicing our opinions on this topic. In the past I've had to endure the > shrieking of the sirens in '75, the bland and boring in '82 and the > totally naff on the Bete Noir and Mamouna tours. These people have > done nothing to enhance the songs that they were performing and in > most cases all but ruined some. They all seem to lack any > understanding of the songs that they are performing. > > You may not agree with my opinion, but that is too bad, aftre all if > we all were in agreement on everything it would make for a pretty dull > and bland list. Now that does sound like the warblings of Thornton & > co. After hearing of Miss Browns involvement in "Dream Home" then I > must say tht I'm not looking forward to it, after all I remember the > crap backing vocals on the performances of this song on the Bete Noir > tour. I'm sorry Tom, obviously for you I meant to write: > Now, David, you know you're not allowed to have your own opinion > when the anti-backup singer crowd has spoken. although I hear that some folks prefer the ";-)" at the end instead, so please take your pick. Colleen (who always holds the same opinions as everyone else and therefore of course cowers at the first sign of disagreement. Now about that whisk(e)y discussion...) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:47:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Adrew Howard Subject: Re: [AVALON] Melody Maker article to Grant Thanks Paul. It's an unbelievably intriguing piece. More desperation and paranoia here than any piece of music could ever evoke. Surely the most personal thing Ferry's ever done...by miles. I guess we all know now why he calls this period his "adult education course". Drew > I just finished transcribing the 1978 Ferry Melody Maker interview (all 6,000 > words of it--carpal tunnel syndrome, big time) Grant referred to last week and > forwarded it him for posting on his site. It's a remarkable piece--Ferry > basically completely loses it a couple times, flinging all over the place the > sort of language he now scolds his sons for and totally (and justifiably) > dressing down a Melody Maker reviewer. I left it with deepened respect for his > candor, his commitment to his music--and his discipline in restraining himself > from punching out a truly obnoxious interviewer . . . > > Paul > > > > > Paul Bodine > pbodine@ameritech.net > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 13:57:54 -0000 From: "alison smith" Subject: Re: [AVALON] test _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:00:18 +0100 From: "Laura Shadbolt" Subject: Re: [AVALON] bringing the kids? Well, my dad's bringing his kids :-) We're not really kids though . . . Laura ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:02:52 +0100 From: "Laura Shadbolt" Subject: [AVALON] Friday 22nd Exactly how strict is the security? Has there been any chance of the Avalonians all meeting up at one place in front of the stage, or will the whole audience be expected to stay in their seats? I only ask because I don't know how likely I am to meet any of you, if I have to stay sitting down. I don't even know where my seat is . . . my dad's got the tickets. Laura ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 15:13:53 +0100 From: "Laura Shadbolt" Subject: [AVALON] Merchandise I was wondering what sort of merchandise there'd be at the concerts, and then my Roxyrama update turned up with details of them :-) Personally I think I'll be coveting one of the halter tops. Has anyone else got one yet? I dread to think what they'd charge for signed CDs with four or more autographs on, when the Ferry-signed ones last year were at least #30 . . . Laura ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:52:26 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] am I crazy enough? Oh, Ignacio. You are darling. Yes, you are crazy - we all are. But it is good to hear you realize there are rational limits to what may or may not be appropriate behavior given an individual's situation. I personally see no sense in becoming over-extended financially for any reason that is not life threatening. As you say, it is your choice to decide what is right for you. Santiago would be great, a wonderful place to visit around a Roxy Music concert. Treat yourself to an extra day or two while there. Really enjoy the time and savor the event and surrounding ambiance. Seeing Roxy once while in an excellent frame of mind is, I should think, preferable to seeing them several times in a whipped up frenzy of 'how do I get there, can I afford it, will I get a great seat or good tickets, hope nothing goes wrong, etc. Your first rock concert is a right of passage. Your first Roxy Music concert is a great privilege. Enjoy, young man! Best wishes, KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 10:56:56 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] a trainspotter's remark Will wonders: "And is FYP, as dramatic as its slot may be, *really* going to hold up as an appropriate closer for multi-night stands?" Good point, Will. I think an excellent alternative Roxy Music encore song would be "Sentimental Fool": '... it must go on, can't stop. The beat of your heart it's like a drum. Will it stop?' KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:04:52 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown You know, it surprises me how Roxy Music could be so right in most of the things they do and yet so wrong in choosing vocal backup! A travesty, I say, take them all outside and line them up against the wall. Ready, aim............ ;^) KBP [ On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, David Squires wrote: > On 15 Jun 2001, at 1:04, thom.wallace wrote: > > > If Avalon has been dropped for dream home it will enhance the set and > > leave her with even less of a part to play in things. > > Having actually seen Dream Home last night, Sarah's vocals were an > intrinsic feature of the song. She also performed as a useful foil in > Bryan's performance in Ladytron. Now, David, you know you're not allowed to have your own opinion when the anti-backup singer crowd has spoken. Colleen ] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:10:52 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Nottingham Dear David: Thank you for your very enjoyable review of Nottingham - it strikes home with me. After all is said and done, it truly is part of the "Roxy Effect" (coined by Mr. Reece) that impacts us most. Best wishes, KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:18:20 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] children of the revolution Richard wrote: "Just thought I'd "plug" my own beautiful sensitive 10-year-old daughter who has a bit of a thing for Bryan Ferry, but prefers his music to the iconic worship." What shall we dub this new flowering group of young cognoscenti (are there now four in their number)? They deserve our recognition and support, perhaps they should have their own mailing list, too! Viva Roxy Music!!!!!!!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:23:08 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Melody Maker article to Grant THANK YOU PAUL! [ I just finished transcribing the 1978 Ferry Melody Maker interview (all 6,000 words of it--carpal tunnel syndrome, big time) Grant referred to last week and forwarded it him for posting on his site. It's a remarkable piece--Ferry basically completely loses it a couple times, flinging all over the place the sort of language he now scolds his sons for and totally (and justifiably) dressing down a Melody Maker reviewer. I left it with deepened respect for his candor, his commitment to his music--and his discipline in restraining himself from punching out a truly obnoxious interviewer . . . Paul ] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:26:59 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Friday 22nd I would have thought we shall all be having a drink or 2 (Tizer for me) either before or after... Jonathan In a message dated 16/06/01 15:31:23 GMT Daylight Time, laura@shadboltc.fsnet.co.uk writes: > Exactly how strict is the security? Has there been any chance of the > Avalonians > all meeting up at one place in front of the stage, or will the whole > audience be > expected to stay in their seats? > > I only ask because I don't know how likely I am to meet any of you, if I > have to > stay sitting down. I don't even know where my seat is . . . my dad's got > the > tickets. > > Laura ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:25:38 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Friday 22nd - ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Shadbolt To: Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 3:02 PM Subject: [AVALON] Friday 22nd > Exactly how strict is the security? Glad to say Laura that the problems with security personnel seems to have been limited to the Glasgow show. I have heard that Ferry and Manzanera were really not happy about the behaviour of the security people at this show. I was right at the front between the two main incedents and both could have resulted in serious injuries to people who were not involved. Having said that these problems were caused by two of the security team, the others had to follow their lead and the chap in front of me seemed genuinly embarased by these incidents as everybody was having a great time until then. It seems that the problems started at the sound check when Ferry got out of his car to sign some stuff and was told in no uncertain terms that he had to "get back in the car as he could not stop there" by some littlle nobody even after Ferry told him he would only be a couple of minutes. Further more two adults and an eleven year old child were also told to beat it or the police would be called after they had been taken into the arena to have some pictures taken by Manzanera. > Has there been any chance of the Avalonians all meeting up at one place in front of the stage, or will the whole > audience be expected to stay in their seats? That depends on what you want to do to get the folk in the front seats out of your way, my advice is beware of females with very sharp elbows. Having said that I hope you enjoy thew show. Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 11:37:14 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Whiskey (OT) Ivor starts an ante: "Whatever, I'll pit 'Black Bush' (a single malt and a single grain) against most Scotch malts any day." I ante up: Ivor, should we meet, you bring your 'Black Bush' and I'll bring Oban. Side by side we'll drink neat until an accord is reached. Will you see? Best wishes, KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:46:21 -0400 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Merchandise On 16 Jun 2001, at 15:13, Laura Shadbolt wrote: > I'll be coveting one of the halter tops. Has anyone else got one yet? I did try to buy one, but was pummelled to the ground by security people screaming about public decency. :-) But they seemed to think it was OK to have Jerry Hall all over my chest... David (I mostly bought it because of the tridentine Y, honest...) - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:46:21 -0400 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown On 16 Jun 2001, at 13:17, thom.wallace wrote: > So how come a minority on the list would deny myself and others from > voicing our opinions on this topic. Wouldn't dream of it, old chap. Happen to agree with you about the Sirens in particular. But in some of the recordings of older shows from that time, Bryan's voice is way off key in places too. Perhaps monitor technology has improved in leaps and bounds in the intervening quarter of a century? > After hearing of Miss Browns involvement in "Dream Home" then I must > say that I'm not looking forward to it... I think that's being a little Eeyore-ish. Still, they might have dropped it from the set the next time you see them, probably to replace it with "Rain, Rain, Rain?" David (only teasing) - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 17:08:12 +0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Merchandise Wore the new Roxy baseball cap at cricket in Derbyshire, hotfoot from the Emerald Isle, and amassed an age-defying 65 runs. The Austro-Hungarian memorabilia must have freaked the Peak District bowlers. The badges are pretty cool too. And amusingly render Jocelyn's collection worthless. Martineaux - ---------- From: "Laura Shadbolt" To: Subject: [AVALON] Merchandise Date: Sat, Jun 16, 2001, 2:13 pm I was wondering what sort of merchandise there'd be at the concerts, and then my Roxyrama update turned up with details of them :-) Personally I think I'll be coveting one of the halter tops. Has anyone else got one yet? I dread to think what they'd charge for signed CDs with four or more autographs on, when the Ferry-signed ones last year were at least #30 . . . Laura ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 18:44:46 +0100 From: "C. H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown Apart from some harmony singing on LITD from TOTP2 Sarah Brown did and which sounded good to me, I have yet to get to hear how well she does. I would not deny that the backing singers on the Roxy and Ferry tours were competent singers in their own right, but the question is rather how well such a soul-oriented full-voiced singing style fits in with Ferry's introverted voice, which is soulful in a different kind of way and hence has to be emphasized rather than subsumed under a backing vocal wash like on the album version of The Right Stuff, for example (I prefer the Brooklyn mix on the B-side, less backing vox...). If Sarah Brown sings the vocals on Dream Home in a straight manner which suits the song well, I'll have no problem with that. It's only that on past live recordings i sometimes had the impression of some politeness on Bryan's part, i. e. give every musician the opportunity to display their degree of virtuosity. The singer and the song, yes, but not the singers and the singer... Now that's something one could miss about Eno - him also being a very good singer, especially when it comes to harmonies, witness Here He Comes on Before And After Science. I like the idea of having the regular band members do the backup voices rather than draft in two or three backing vocalists. Christian - ---------- >Von: KB Porter >An: avalon@smoe.org >Betreff: Re: [AVALON] Sarah Brown >Datum: Sam, 16. Jun 2001 16:04 Uhr > >You know, it surprises me how Roxy Music could be so right in most of >the things they do and yet so wrong in choosing vocal backup! A >travesty, I say, take them all outside and line them up against the >wall. Ready, aim............ > >;^) KBP > > >[ On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, David Squires wrote: > >> On 15 Jun 2001, at 1:04, thom.wallace wrote: >> >> > If Avalon has been dropped for dream home it will enhance the set and >> > leave her with even less of a part to play in things. >> >> Having actually seen Dream Home last night, Sarah's vocals were an >> intrinsic feature of the song. She also performed as a useful foil in >> Bryan's performance in Ladytron. > >Now, David, you know you're not allowed to have your own opinion when >the >anti-backup singer crowd has spoken. > >Colleen ] > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #229 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest