From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #220 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, June 12 2001 Volume 06 : Number 220 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] NEW MEMBER [ignacio "peyró" ] [AVALON] El Ferranti -- tree closed ["Grant Goggans" ] [AVALON] Rock Chick calling ["Therese O'Donnell" ] Re: [AVALON] website update [Avalon887@aol.com] [AVALON] Reviews... ["Simon Galloway" ] [AVALON] Roxy Music on Virgin Radio (fwd) [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Reviews ["tmoq" ] [AVALON] Free Wembley tix... ["Simon Galloway" ] [AVALON] 40/20 [beauxb@cwctv.net] [AVALON] 20/40 [beauxb@cwctv.net] [AVALON] Roxy on Radio 2 [JFROXY@aol.com] [AVALON] Glasgow - more views ["Philip Adams" ] [AVALON] Dubline reviews ["Laura Shadbolt" ] [AVALON] Dressing up ["Laura Shadbolt" ] RE: [AVALON] 20/40 ["Jankiewicz, Jim" ] [AVALON] le DVD [Miles Goosens ] [AVALON] 2 Tickets for Wembley 23rd June ["Kevin Scollan" ] Re: [AVALON] Dressing up ["linn van vliet" ] Re: [AVALON] 20/40 ["tommy peters" ] Re: [AVALON] Glasgow - more views ["Han Snijders" ] Re: [AVALON] Dressing up [Avalon887@aol.com] [AVALON] BF Message Board ["Jane Collard" ] Re: [AVALON] Reviews ["ncjones.lewis2" ] Re: [AVALON] BF Message Board ["ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] NEW MEMBER "needless to say they "blew my mind", quite scandalous in a Spanish family." ...Yes, the Country Life cover is hard to explain; they don't really think it's music :) I still have to hide it. BTW, my parents love to hear Ferry crooning while they're driving. Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:02:14 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] El Ferranti -- tree closed Hi everyone The first phase of this CD tree has closed. The first 12 people in line can expect to hear from me later today with more details. If you missed out, don't lose hope, because I expect that branches may be appearing in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for your interest! Grant http://www.geocities.com/gmslegion -- new online comic this week! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 04:17:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] New To The List Fraid not - but from the City Of Steel, Sheffield, Republic of South Yorkshire, UK Aleks - --- ASchulberg@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 06/11/2001 7:26:50 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, > tom@cpl593h.fsnet.co.uk writes: > > > > TOM a fellow steel city dweller > > > > Hey, yinz guys from down Pittsburgh too? > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:37:45 +0100 From: "Therese O'Donnell" Subject: [AVALON] Rock Chick calling Hello all. Just recovering from a mad few days following around the best boy band in the world. The setlist has been covered elsewhere and much better than I could ever manage, so I've got more of my personal moments from the last few days. This is really about what hanging around with 20 other nutters was like, so if you find it boring (you loser you) or too stressful or too close to home, delete now. This is the Dublin review, Glasgow will be done later today. My posse included me, my bruv Raymond and my pal Vanessa from NYC. Both these people are now honorary Avalonians in a House Un-American Activities Committee way that people were deemed. Communists. A load of us met up for Friday in a lovely restaurant for Ivor's 40th and I' ll tell you that man has clearly been taking the same youth pills as Bry - he doesn't look a day over 39. Reecey was invalided out early via (IMO stress induced) illness. Our tour adjutant was Chris Turner's pal Richard who deserves a medal and a virtual round of applause for ferrying (sic) around a crew of Avalonians We moved on to a bar which was named after a perfume (Cafi Samsara) and, as Jocelyn said, it looked like we were starring on the set of Mamouna. We resisted the understandable desire to take our clothes off, put on fake tan and drag around some poor unfortunate in chains. Unfortunately our restraint was not replicated by other swingers in the pub. Nervous shock claims could come out of this episode. We moved on to another traditional Irish pub - the real deal, not as created by a UK chain I ran over to point out to other list members that the PA was playing LST, I tripped and grabbed hold of a poor woman on a bar stool round the waist. She let out yips louder than Jerry H. ever did and her boyfriend thought it was his lucky night and tried to push the pair of us into a taxi home. V. embarrassing. Moved on to another bar - by this stage there was only 5 of us (the rest are wimps) - my posse and Chris and St. Richard. Much toing and froing re trivia about BF/RM and more than one or two Ferry impersonations. In a moment of terrifying prescience (I didn't know what was on telly the following night) I said that Bryan Ferry could go on 'Stars in Their Eyes' and say 'Tonight Matthew I'm going to be an Avalonian'. Stotted (the Scots will know what that means) home while Sis. V. and I were made various unspeakable offers. I don't know why Vanessa insisted that we had to go home. The day itself was fairly calm apart from the wild phone call from a pal telling me how she had spotted me on TOTP2 (and no Niki H. I'm not a glamorous blonde, just a boring brunette (gentleman may not prefer me, but as the saying goes, they marry me)). Stress on an international level, that 's impressive. Got to the venue. By this stage we are beside ourselves with excitement and BTW there was no question of us being smug re non-attenders from Avalon. You were with us all in spirit, it must be what being a special representative from the UN is like but with the added perk that you don't have to be nice to Geri Halliwell. Lots of interesting if ill-advised outfits on other (i.e. mere mortal) fans. Special mention has to go to an Armani clad Jocelyn and Ed Stobelaar looking like the suave male model that used to advertise Paco Rabanne along with his glamour chick (and very blonde) wife. The gig came and went and was fab. A youthful, professional and buoyant performance. No towel though, I was hoping to get the whole set. If you want to know more about the gig, go to JO'B's site. It'll give you the holy grail. Afterwards, Avalonians met up, thrilled that the heroes had delivered the goods and beaming like proud parents at graduation. Went into a pub on the dock. This was interesting. It looked like it could be a) on the set of the (original) Get Carter b) that some of us may never see Sunday How wrong we were! They loved us although they weren't quite sure why. When a couple of female Avalonians went to the bar , you could have fitted eggs into the open mouths of some of the locals. Actually when some of the male Avalonians wnt to the bar you could have done the same. It's the lemon shirts, the tour shirts and the washed and brushed hair that does it every time. The next thing - 'Avalon' comes over the sound system. It was like the reverse of hearing the Clash's 'Sandinista' album in the tea room at Fortnum & Mason's. Cool. Then time for home. 20 happy (very happy, they had a lock-in in the bar and locals ended up discussing the merits of 'Stranded over 'Country Life') wee Avalonian bears headed to various houses and hotels. To sleep the sleep of the righteous. Keep the faith brothers and sisters. See you tonight for the Glasgow reprise. Mmelle. T. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:39:59 +0100 From: "Jane Collard" Subject: [AVALON] Reviews A belated thanks, John, for the great reviews - wonderful to have them available so quickly. The Glasgow Review answered the two questions I had on Dublin, namely - where there any dancing girls (in the light of the TOTP2 extravaganza), and did they transpose "More than This", given Ferry's frequently repeated comment that it was too high for him to sing any more. I'm glad to know the answers are "yes" and "yes"! I'm intrigued by the use of FYP to close the show. Although it's not actually a particular favourite of mine, I agree it's a beautifully crafted song and it definitely has a place in the set. Personally I would prefer a more upbeat ending so I'm curious to see how it works (as John says in his review, no-one else could get away with it!). I'll reserve judgement until Saturday! Thanks again, John Best wishes Jane ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:52:56 EDT From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] website update John, great photos. fabulous review! I'm a jealous gal here in NY counting the days. Eileen in Kew Gardens ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:57:05 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Reviews... Slowly but surely reviews are starting to filter through... I particularly like the Dublin review, coupled with JOB's and Therese's comments I'm starting to feel like I was almost there. http://scripts.ireland.com/search/highlight.plx?TextRes=roxy%20music&Path=/newspaper/features/2001/0612/fea5.htm http://www.thescotsman.co.uk/index.cfm?id=81086&keyword=roxy%20music No pictures though. SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:18:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music on Virgin Radio (fwd) I just got this in my mailbox and thought it might be of interest... Colleen - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:14:04 +0100 From: James Cridland To: James Cridland Subject: Roxy Music on Virgin Radio Just thought you might like to know that a feature on Roxy Music goes on the Virgin Radio website tomorrow (probably tomorrow afternoon) The address will be http://www.virginradio.co.uk/music/classicartists/roxymusic/ (though you'll not see anything there until tomorrow). There'll be biographies, a review of their recent concert in Scotland, and "interesting rare facts" (according to my music editor!), including biogs on all the band members. You'll be able to watch the videos from "Jealous Guy" and "Love is the Drug", and you can win five copies of the "Best Of", and one top prize of the back catalogue. There might even be more. If you'd like to link to it then that would be just great: if you'd like a nice logo to link to, http://www.virginradio.co.uk/linktous/ has the information you need. - -- James Cridland Managing Editor, Virgin Radio New Media 1 Golden Square, London, W1F 9DJ, United Kingdom Tel: 020 7434 1215 http://www.virginradio.co.uk/ - the home of ten great songs in a row http://www.catchthegroove.com/ - London's soul music station http://www.listen2liquid.com/ - London's fun young sound http://www.globalsoundkitchen.com/ - Europe and the world's dance http://www.gingershop.com/ - music, tickets, games, domains and more ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:22:19 -0400 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reviews - -----Original Message----- From: Jane Collard To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:49 AM Subject: [AVALON] Reviews >A belated thanks, John, for the great reviews - wonderful to have them >available so quickly. > >The Glasgow Review answered the two questions I had on Dublin, namely - where >there any dancing girls (in the light of the TOTP2 extravaganza), and did they >transpose "More than This", given Ferry's frequently repeated comment that it >was too high for him to sing any more. I'm glad to know the answers are "yes" >and "yes"! > And it`s good to see Mother of Pearl added to the set list. Now if they can add Beauty Queen by the time they reach Atlanta my night will be made. ;-) Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:47:02 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Free Wembley tix... ..but you have to win them first! Capital Gold are giving away tickets for the third Wembley show, plus runner up prizes of the new Best Of cd. And yes, that whole messy lot down there is the URL! http://www.capitalgold.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=Global/ShowArticle&c=Article&cid=CAPX0SELUMC&live=true&site=CapitalGold&whichnav=MUSIC&expandid=CAPGLDS0065 SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:29:45 +0100 From: beauxb@cwctv.net Subject: [AVALON] 40/20 Oh my dears', 2 FANTASTIC reviews,(I could say more, but this is a CLEAN site), I mean the guy+special lady who put vivaroxymusic on the map! My exitement is now REALLY building! (As if it could get any higher!?) If I could E-mail to you off list, I would, but I don't know your 'mail address! I want/must send you and your ladyfriend a particular rareity! (Roxy Music, white lable, King Crimson, 1971!) Artifacts really don't mean that much to me, just ask Maggs! But I know they might mean something to you, as your reviews meant something to me! Above and beyond the call of duty, dos'nt really say it! 76-01! I would have to wait 3 weeks for even a small one paragraph review! Now,.....2 hours!!!Thanks' to you both! If you don'trespond, it's O.K. , I'll just offer the rarity to Maggs! BEAUX. Or contact my Mobile E-Mail at ; beaux@orange.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:48:27 +0100 From: beauxb@cwctv.net Subject: [AVALON] 20/40 So......40 songs rehersed, 20 songs played live! SOOOO MANNYYY permutations!!!! I know it's ridiculous, but....songs, as of current set, to drop, and songs to add! ; DROP While My Heart... Avalon Jealous Guy Love Is The Drug ADD Pyjamarama All I Want Is You Sentimental Fool Spin Me 'Round Now this MUST throw the Pidgeon amongst the Cats? ........Or are we just TOOOO COOOL? BEAUX. Or contact my Mobile E-Mail at ; beaux@orange.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:54:36 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Roxy on Radio 2 A workmate informed me this morning that there is a live Roxy concert on Radio 2, Sat. 23rd of June at 8.00pm. Hopefully it will be the Glasgow SECC show from last night, absolutely awesome, what a show and what an atmosphere, the place was going crazy, brilliant. The new Best of album is Radio 2 DJ Ken Bruce's album of the week, he played Jealous Guy this morning, I will check it out tomorrow to see if he mentions the forthcoming programme. JF. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:07:04 +0100 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: [AVALON] Glasgow - more views For a definitive gig review see John O'Briens piece at www.vivaroxymusic.com I'd thought I'd just add a few comments. I'd been pondering for ages what the opening number would be - after South Downs was played through the PA, I heard the distinct rattle of glasses and party conversation and then , wham, the curtains lifted and Roxy launched into Re-Make Re-Model - a band at full steam and as one. Where was Ferry? No long intro, no saunter onto the stage - ah , there he was to the left of the stage, behind a bank of synths. Dressed in a sparkling silver lounge jacket and his greying hair backlit from the lighting rig my first impresson was of the uncle from the original Munsters TV show (No, not Fester Addams) or of Elsa Lanchester from The Bride of Frankenstein. Quite startling. But what a fantastic opener, introducing the band 30 years on. This was MY Roxy. My Roxy of the BOB, Beauty Queen, Amazona, The Thrill of it All , She Sells, Whirlwind, Manifesto and so on. Those songs I'd grown up with and those, I believed , that belonged to me. Then "Oh Yeah" and the Glasgow crowd once again rises to its feet - its a large arena, SECC, and the they're going mad. I , and I think the band also , were taken aback by the response that "Oh Yeah" got. This was THEIR Roxy - the Roxy of Dance Away , Avalon, Jealous Guy. The crowd sang along to "Oh Yeah" like it was the biggest Roxy song ever. But hey, wait a minute here comes Ladytron, Out of the Blue, A Song for Europe, Street Life, Mother of Pearl , If There is Something. "Whats this song?", the guy sat next to me asked me a minute or so of ITIS. Listen and learn, I thought. This is MY Roxy. Avalon and Jealous Guy . Tick them off, they're not in the encore , I thought to myself. Tara, extended , silver necklaces hanging from the stage curtains, a starry night sky. Ah , the visuals, black and white CCTV of the band projected on the back stage, out of focus, brash, immediate, exciting . More Than This, water droplets on a still pond. A blue globe during OOTB, crimson red lighting during ASFE. A troope of glamourous dancers. Dancing lights, bright, direct , like the laser beam that searched Ripley's lifeboat at the start of "Aliens". And then, Editions of you and Virginia Plain and it was all over. A mad call for an encore , the band back on the stage for Love is the Drug and Do the Strand. Not just mine but, at that point, everyone's Roxy Music. And then finish. Do the Strand, always the last song. Its over. Ferry's stopped, look at the time he gesticulates to the crowd at the front. Time to go home, its late. And then, Thompson's intro to For Your Pleasure. The shiver that went down my spine at that point was real. The song was as much unexpected as a revelation. What a way to finish. This was for us, fellow Avalonians. Those who followed and understood. Its a big tour , a major event, a lot of media coverage will follow. Roxy and Ferry are undoubtedly fashionable again. Many think Ferry's done nothing for 15 years. A moneyspinning tour for sure , but more than that. Roxy Music were clearly enjoying themselves but they are also saying goodbye and thank you. Philip PS It seems the set is the same as at Dublin, but I'll be hoping for a few, promised, variations later on in the tour ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:11:32 +0100 From: "Laura Shadbolt" Subject: [AVALON] Dubline reviews Looks like I won't get to read the Dublin reviews until after 10pm tonight, if they're all on the web. Grrrr! Ahh, the problems of having finally got a part-time job :-) Can't wait to read them, anyway. I've already read John O'Brien's one on his website and it sounded brilliant. See you all on the 22nd. Laura ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:24:08 +0100 From: "Laura Shadbolt" Subject: [AVALON] Dressing up Hello again, I've been discussing with my dad and sister (who are coming to Wembley on the 22nd with me) what to wear to the concert. I've already stressed to my sister (who is 15 and hasn't been to a "proper" gig yet) the importance at any other gig of wearing either trainers or Doc Martens and preferably trousers, etc, but in my opinion these Roxy gigs are the only exception: the only gig where dressing up is rather more important than being comfortable, at least for the ladies :-) I don't suppose the suits for the men make a vast amount of difference. Anyway, what have the rest of you worn, or are you planning to wear? I think I'll stick with relatively sensible shoes, i.e. heels but not very high heels, and whatever else I wear, I *will* wear my gloves . . . Whatever happens, I'm not going to let my dad wear jeans :-) Laura ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:51:11 -0500 From: "Jankiewicz, Jim" Subject: RE: [AVALON] 20/40 At the risk of offending the majority here, I would like them to DROP "Do The Strand" and ADD... "Amazona!!!" - -----Original Message----- From: beauxb@cwctv.net [mailto:beauxb@cwctv.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 11:48 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] 20/40 So......40 songs rehersed, 20 songs played live! SOOOO MANNYYY permutations!!!! I know it's ridiculous, but....songs, as of current set, to drop, and songs to add! ; DROP While My Heart... Avalon Jealous Guy Love Is The Drug ADD Pyjamarama All I Want Is You Sentimental Fool Spin Me 'Round Now this MUST throw the Pidgeon amongst the Cats? ........Or are we just TOOOO COOOL? BEAUX. Or contact my Mobile E-Mail at ; beaux@orange.net ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:07:52 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [AVALON] le DVD We bought the Ferry at le Grand Rex DVD on Samedi, and watched it as soon as we got home. And... wow! The sound and picture are great, sure (please please please let there be a NEW TOWN DVD someday), but the performance is even better! We didn't get to see any of the '99-'00 tour, nor do we have the Brussels vid that circulated here, so this was our first viewing of the show. It felt instantly familiar because of the show reviews and photos that you Avalonians so kindly provided over the last eighteen months. But not to get too "Where or When," it was still great to have those pictures fleshed out. We can only imagine how impressive the subsequent stops of the tour were, since Lucy Wilkins was absent from this show, and by all accounts the band got even tighter as the tour went along, but we were truly impressed by how great the performance and arrangements were. Colin Good did a magnificent job of translating Ferry's material to this format -- the dissonance on "Chance Meeting" preserved (and maybe *enhanced,* gadzooks!) in big band/orchestral format, who'd'a thunk it? Perhaps the biggest surprise for Melissa and me was how strong the ATGB material came across. Neither of us are fond of ATGB -- I think we may dislike it as strongly as Colleen and Gene do, and that sort of music isn't a style of which we're fond, no matter if it was inspirational fodder for Ferry's worldview. But if he'd sung those songs in the studio with the character and force he gives them live, we would have enjoyed ATGB a *whole* lot more. Maybe in the studio he was concerned with showing "respect" for the songs and feared overpowering them, or maybe his voice wasn't in great shape at that point in time; regardless, the studio versions are aural sominex to us. But live, doing the very same songs, he sounds like Bryan-by-God-Ferry, sacrificing not one whit of touch or style while fully inhabiting every syllable and note. So anyway, this is an unqualified rave from us. Our only quibble is with the decision not to release the full show on DVD, but what's there is magnificent. We'll be playing this one quite often! Oh, and while I've not seen more than still pictures of Lucy Wilkins (well, the "Virginia Plain" footage on Han's website too), so I'm still open to the possibility that I'll go ga-ga over her, I gotta say that I don't quite get the drool over Lucy and Julia when the endlessly attractive Rosie Wetters was sharing the same stage. Oh my, or perhaps more '30s-like, hubba hubba. later, Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:13:40 +0100 From: "Kevin Scollan" Subject: [AVALON] 2 Tickets for Wembley 23rd June I have two tickets for Wembley on the 23rd - block B2 row 1 - that unfortunately I cannot use (my wife refuses to go three nights in a row - is that grounds for divorce as unreasonable behaviour?) Anyway - the tickets have face value #32.50 each - if anyone wants to buy them, please contact me off list. (I am only interested in covering my costs - so first come first served). Kevin Scollan Kevin@scollan.fsnet.co.uk ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:41:53 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: RE: [AVALON] 20/40 Beaux, then Jim: >>So......40 songs rehersed, 20 songs played live! SOOOO MANNYYY >>permutations!!!! >> >>I know it's ridiculous, but....songs, as of current set, to drop, and songs >>to add! ; >> >>DROP >> >>While My Heart... >>Avalon >>Jealous Guy >>Love Is The Drug >> >>ADD >> >>Pyjamarama >>All I Want Is You >>Sentimental Fool >>Spin Me 'Round > >At the risk of offending the majority here, I would like them to DROP "Do >The Strand" and ADD... "Amazona!!!" I'm not offended by any of these suggestions, and I'm all for changing the setlists around, as long as "Mother of Pearl" and "Song for Europe" stay in through Atlanta. :-) *But* I do want to remind Avalonians that not everyone seeing Roxy on this tour has been to a hundred or a dozen or even a handful of shows, and not everyone has a bootleg stockpile with dozens of performances of the "standard" Ferry encores. The views expressed here are most often those of the cognoscenti, who have the luxury of becoming bored with "Jealous Guy," "Love Is the Drug," "Avalon," and "Do the Strand." I've seen Ferry *once,* in Atlanta in '94. I was thrilled to hear all of those songs, and I think he did them (as well as that other much-decried encore chestnut, "Let's Stick Together") with passion where appropriate ("Jealous Guy," "Avalon") and flippant Ferry fun otherwise -- he seemed to be having as good a time with them as the audience was. There was no sign of ennui on Ferry's part, even though he was playing those numbers for the umpteenth time. I'll be ecstatic to hear those selections again at the Roxy show in Atlanta, should Ferry & company choose to play them. They make a rollicking conclusion to a great set. It would be one thing if Roxy Music were playing only radio hits. But they're not. The set as is includes the most important song of Ferry's career, "Mother of Pearl." It leads off with "Re-Make/Re-Model," as unsettling a blast of postmodern pop now as it was twenty-nine years ago. It has "Ladytron," "Out of the Blue," "A Song for Europe." For us U.S. audiences, even "Street Life" counts as a "fan" track rather than a crowd pleaser. It looks to me like Bryan & co. have put together a balanced set that gives a lot of pleasure to both the casual fan and the completist, and is constructed with a deep understanding of Roxy's importance and history. What's more, if they were doing "hits, hits, hits," they could have easily ended the set with "Do the Strand." The fact that they've given "For Your Pleasure" pride of place, leaving the audience not with the giddy sudden stop of "STRAND!" but adrift in the echoing mists of "tah-rah... tah-rah... tah-rah... tah-rah" says everything about what is right with this setlist, this tour, this band. I'll be the first to say when Ferry has come up short, and I don't think everything he does is glitter thrown from his jacket pocket or manna in a monogrammed flask. But the shows as described so far are scenes straight from my dreams. Other listmembers may be screening out "spoiler" messages; I'd rather send "setlist carping" to the kill file. later, Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:20:01 +0200 From: "linn van vliet" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dressing up Good for you, I am gonna wear black sort of seventies trousers (they are very classy and neat) with high heels, a small top (haven't decided which on) and a black cotton long coat over that. Hair loose, Jerry Hall make up, a very long white silk shawl carefully draped around my neck, going down to the back. Black gloves, maybe and a stunning perfume... well, got an idea vaguely, that's all.. Linn - ---------- >From: "Laura Shadbolt" >To: >Subject: [AVALON] Dressing up >Date: Tue, Jun 12, 2001, 14:24 > > Hello again, > > I've been discussing with my dad and sister (who are coming to Wembley on the > 22nd with me) what to wear to the concert. I've already stressed to my sister > (who is 15 and hasn't been to a "proper" gig yet) the importance at any other > gig of wearing either trainers or Doc Martens and preferably trousers, etc, but > in my opinion these Roxy gigs are the only exception: the only gig where > dressing up is rather more important than being comfortable, at least for the > ladies :-) I don't suppose the suits for the men make a vast amount of > difference. > > Anyway, what have the rest of you worn, or are you planning to wear? I think > I'll stick with relatively sensible shoes, i.e. heels but not very high heels, > and whatever else I wear, I *will* wear my gloves . . . > > Whatever happens, I'm not going to let my dad wear jeans :-) > > Laura > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:25:06 +0100 From: "tommy peters" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 20/40 ADD......... 2HB Chance Meeting Beauty Queen Deream home Bogus Man Sunset Amazona Just like You Casanova The thrill All I want She sells Sentimental fool DROP Nothing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:59:54 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Glasgow - more views Philip wrote: This was MY Roxy. My Roxy of the BOB, > Beauty Queen, Amazona, The Thrill of it All , She Sells, Whirlwind, > Manifesto and so on. Those songs I'd grown up with and those, I believed , > that belonged to me. ... ...Beautiful review Philip! Can't wait to hear and see them. Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:19:07 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] 20/40 And lets have that 25 minute version of South Downs as well..... Jonathan In a message dated 12/06/01 21:53:14 GMT Daylight Time, tom@cpl593h.fsnet.co.uk writes: > ADD......... > 2HB Chance Meeting Beauty Queen Deream home Bogus Man Sunset Amazona Just > like You Casanova The thrill All I want She sells Sentimental fool > DROP > > > Nothing > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:42:57 +0100 From: "Jane Collard" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 20/40 Well said, Miles! It's impossible to please everyone and I agree that this set seems designed to appeal to as many people as possible. And that's how it should be. We've all paid our money and look forward to hearing our own special favourites. Some people didn't get into Roxy early on for the very good reason that they simply weren't around (or old enough) at the time. What is wrong with only having discovered Roxy in the late 70s/early 80s (and I speak as a fan since 1972!)? There is a lot of "snobbishness" on some other discussion sites (not, thankfully, on Avalon) which suggests that if you only like the stuff from F&B onwards then you're not a true fan. Well, a fan is a fan regardless of the extent of their knowledge. Everyone has their own preferences (my own favourites can be plucked from the whole period). A good concert should include "crowd-pleasers", standard hits and some slightly less well-known material to please those who are completely obsessed (ie most on this list!). From what I've seen so far - even if the set is tweaked as the tour progresses - Roxy seen to have got it right. I hope you enjoy the concert(s) that you're due to attend - I am counting the days until my first one on Saturday! Best wishes Jane - ----- Original Message ----- From: Miles Goosens To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 8:41 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] 20/40 > It looks to me like Bryan & co. have put together a > balanced set that gives a lot of pleasure to both the casual fan and the > completist, and is constructed with a deep understanding of Roxy's > importance and history. > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:49:54 EDT From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dressing up dressing up is definitely an important factor in going to see Roxy Music perform but comfort is also important! Eileen in Kew Gardens ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:48:58 +0100 From: "Jane Collard" Subject: [AVALON] BF Message Board Want a laugh? Check out the BF Message Board under the thread "Most Loyal Roxy Fan"!! Jocelyn - what a pity you're away from your PC at the moment!! Cheers Jane ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:00:16 +0100 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reviews Far from being intrigued, I'm chuffed to bits about their choice of "show closer." While TOTP2 did renew my appreciation of LITD & DTS to some extent, I am content to think that I will be leaving the NEC with something other than these numbers ringing in my ears. Indeed the "tara...." exit sounds quite a "shiver down the spine" farewell! Who knows...considering the 20/40 figure being hinted at surely this exit may change by Saturday???? Regards Neil Jones. P.S. Thanks to all for their reviews...and no, I couldn't resist a peak either! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Collard To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:39 PM Subject: [AVALON] Reviews > > I'm intrigued by the use of FYP to close the show. Although it's not actually > a particular favourite of mine, I agree it's a beautifully crafted song and it > definitely has a place in the set. Personally I would prefer a more upbeat > ending so I'm curious to see how it works (as John says in his review, no-one > else could get away with it!). I'll reserve judgement until Saturday! > > Thanks again, John > > Best wishes > Jane > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:22:09 +0100 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] BF Message Board It's a shame the sender did not get his wish and bump into Jocelyn this evening. Though I suspect he may have got far more than a tenner... Neil - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Collard To: Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:48 PM Subject: [AVALON] BF Message Board > Want a laugh? Check out the BF Message Board under the thread "Most Loyal > Roxy Fan"!! Jocelyn - what a pity you're away from your PC at the moment!! > > Cheers > Jane > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #220 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest