From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #128 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, March 31 2001 Volume 06 : Number 128 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Re: MUSIC [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson ! [Jads2@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson ! ["thom.wallace" ] [AVALON] HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROCK MUSIC FANATIC [Bill Gillam ] Re: [AVALON] Re: MUSIC ["Ivor Canning" ] Re: [AVALON] New Wembley date announced [jmdillon@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] Re: MUSIC [Jads2@aol.com] [AVALON] [Avalon] Never Thought ["Pete Kohut" ] Re: [AVALON] HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROCK MUSIC FANATIC [Jads2@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROCK MUSIC FANATIC [Jads2@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROCK MUSIC FANATIC [OBrienFerry@aol.] R: [AVALON] HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROXY MUSIC FANATIC ["danilo" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: MUSIC ["Ivor Canning" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:56:41 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: MUSIC John Miles Trivia: Best remembered for the rock ballad "Music," singer John Miles was born April 23, 1949 in Jarrow, England. His first musical venture of note was the Influences, which also launched the careers of ROXY MUSIC drummer Paul Thompson. on 3/30/01 9:37 AM, Jads2@aol.com at Jads2@aol.com wrote: > "Music is my first love and it will be my last" > > John Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:34:09 EST From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson ! In a message dated 3/30/2001 3:25:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, thom.wallace@ntlworld.com writes: > > Music. What gives? > > > It may be something to do with the fact that he left the band in 1980. > > So what? He is still the roxy music drummer of record. He was there when it started and in their glory years. To use a less than sterling example-should bruce springsteen not have used steve van zandt because he left the band. He was there at the beginning and will always be linked with that particular band. I am a major roxy music fan and to tell you the truth any drummer other than paul thompson to me was just a session musician. Doesn't mean they weren't good-just means they weren't really band members. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:10:14 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson ! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson ! > So what? He is still the roxy music drummer of record. He was there when it > started and in their glory years. To use a less than sterling example-should > bruce springsteen not have used steve van zandt because he left the band. He > was there at the beginning and will always be linked with that particular > band. > I am a major roxy music fan and to tell you the truth any drummer other than > paul thompson to me was just a session musician. Doesn't mean they weren't > good-just means they weren't really band members. I'm not disagreeing with your feelings on Paul Thompson, in fact they echo my own, but like it or not he wasn't a member of the band when they split in '83. As a fan of his work with Roxy I'd love to see him on stage again, but as I haven't heard any of his work since 1979, I'd be a liar if I was to say that I knew if he was still up to the job or not. If it is true that he has had to audition for the drum seat on this tour there must have been similar thoughts in the minds of Ferry, Manzanera and Mackay. It's very easy in a situation like this to let the heart rule the head, personally I'm quite happy to wait and see what happens and if he's on the tour great, but let's not kid ourselves there is no way that he will be the same as he was circa '72 - '74, for starters he is a quarter of a century older as are the others, the difference is though that it takes a lot more physical energy to play drums like he did for two hours a night than it takes to sing, play guitar or sax. Since the tour was announced there has been a continuing attitude of "it must be TGPT", but just how many of the people shouting for this have actually heard him play over the last 20 years. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:33:34 -0600 From: Bill Gillam Subject: [AVALON] HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROCK MUSIC FANATIC HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROCK MUSIC FANATIC How can you tell? Here's How: 1) You've emptied your bank account and used vacation time to follow a band on tour. 2) You've paid $100 or more to upgrade your concert seat from 10th row to 3rd just so the band can see your handmade signs and posters. 3) You've significantly enhanced parts of your anatomy while smuggling a camera into concerts, even though to date you've taken 11,982 photos of the band. 4) You've worn hand-designed T-shirts to concerts because the commercial ones aren't unique enough. 5) Similarly, you've also worn 20-year-old vintage, faded concert shirts just because they're so cool. 6) You've noticed immediately when the lead singer changes the lyrics to one line of a song during a live performance. 7) You have pen-pals in foreign countries. 8) Tattoos. 'Nuff said. 9) When one of their songs plays in a restaurant or supermarket, you have to surpress the impulse to yell at everyone in the produce section, 'Hey! Pay attention!' 10) You've set your alarm for 6 AM to record some obscure television appearance. 11) You own every recording they ever made or played on, even the one in which the bassist only provided a 5-second guitar riff for someone else. 12) On a similar note, you own several different versions of the same album or song, just because some minuscule detail is different. 13) When one of their songs comes on your car radio, you crank it up and sing at the top of your lungs, even though you already own 17 different versions of that song at home. 14) Friends and coworkers have begged you to get counseling. 15) When conversing with other fans, you refer to the band members by their first names *only*, as if talking about absent friends. 16) You've used lines from songs in everyday conversation, then snickered at your own cleverness. Especially effective when used in the company of other fans. 17) You celebrate the lead singer's birthday complete with cake and ice cream. 18) You've named pets after band members or song titles. 19) Your e-mail address has something to do with your favorite band. 20) You have a website devoted to your favorite band. 21) Your personalized license plate somehow incorporates the band. 22) You've bought clothes that looked like something the band members have worn. 23) You record every entertainment show that airs in your market every day "just in case" your favorite band is mentioned. 24) Your collection of video tapes in the garage has taken up more room than your car because you then "save" every clip that mentions them. 25) You threw away childhood toys and mementos to make room for your ever-expanding collection of band "stuff." 26) You own more CDs by your favorite band than by all other acts put together. 27) You own more photo albums of your favorite band than of people you actually know. 28) You named your first born son or daughter after a band member. 29) People in the electronics department wonder what planet you're from because a record turntable is a must for any new stereo system-- you not only know what vinyl is, but it's among your prize possessions. 30) You never actually play those records because they might get scratched. 31) Your "best friend" is a person who lives 1000 miles away but is the ONLY person who REALLY understands how you feel about the band and/or one certain member of the band. 32) Your other "best friend," (the one who lives in the same time zone) really thought you'd be over this by now. 33) You have ever traveled to a different state (or country) to see your favorite band. 34) You skipped class to go buy the new CD the minute it hit the store shelves. 35) You cried when your favorite band member got married. 36) You played one of their songs at your own wedding. 37) You played one of their songs at someone else's wedding. 38) The only reason you even got a computer and hooked to the Internet as so you could keep up with what was going on with your favorite band in a timely fashion. Tips: Be honest with yourself when evaluating your own fanaticism. No need to be ashamed -- there are hundreds of thousands out there just like yourself. If you can name all the band members' birthdates without hesitation, you might be in trouble. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:37:52 -0800 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Off topic - Prog Rock Lives ! Jeff (clearly an Analog Kid) reminisces: > Ivor....Is that the post bowie/ronno Spider release?...Good God I > haven't listened to that LP in years! Damn it..my turntable is > broken.... Every cloud has a silver lining ... S8^} Leave it be, your turntable won't thank you for bringing it out of retirement for this ! > n.p. Alive on Planet Earth- Flower Kings Ha ha ... be afraid, you pub-rockers (you know who you are !) - be VERY afraid !!!! We have another Prog Rock Man in our ranks ... S;^) So, Jeff, how are you on Gentle Giant ? (I can hear the collective intake of breath even as I type !) Regards, Ivor. n.p. Spock's Beard 'The Light', to be followed by Kromlech 'La Soledad de las Sombras' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:24:14 -0800 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: MUSIC David Squires mused: > > "Music is my first love and it will be my last" > > > > John Miles > > Someone just had to go there, didn't they? LOL ! 'Tear The Damn Thing Down' John Miles (from the same album) but most tellingly... 'There is a pleasure, sure, in being mad, which none but madmen know' Dryden, 'The Spanish Friar' - Act 2, Scene 1 Nuff said, I think ! Regards, Ivor. n.p. Greenslade 'Time and Tide' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:31:04 -0800 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: MUSIC I roat: > 'Tear The Damn Thing Down' > John Miles (from the same album) Oops ! That should have read '*Pull* The Damn Thing Down'. Same difference but I would hate to leave it rong (or even 'Rongwrong'). Reguards, Ive. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:32:25 -0500 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Wembley date announced On: Friday, March 30, 2001 1:45 PM "Mr. Chris Turner wrote: ........... It is commonplace that the best tickets are available via the venue in the UK, with the online agencies receiving allocations of lesser tickets. We're much more civilised than you colonials. ;0) Chris <><><><><><><> ZAP! Ouch! Oooooo....one colonial last seen: stabbed, bleeding and heading directly to the bar for a scotch. Regards John D - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Turner" To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 1:45 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] New Wembley date announced > Someone very kindly tipped me off via Roxyrama (at 10.45AM) that they were > on sale from 9.00AM, I rang the ticket office, and got through first ring > and had the tix three minutes later. > > > > I mailed the list at just after 11.00 BTW > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > mark shanahan > Sent: 30 March 2001 17:32 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Wembley date announced > > > >From: "Chris Turner" > >Hi Folks, > >A third Wembley date on Sunday 24th June has been announced. > >I got tix in row 2 > > OK, chris -- whose palms did you have to *grease* to get these tickets, huh? > is it really possible that ticketmasterUK is that much more efficient than > its u.s. counterpart (shock!horror!)? > > what is the world coming to? btw, i didn't go to ticketmaster chez moi last > evening, but will endeavor to do so this. > > ms > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:57:14 EST From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: MUSIC In a message dated 3/30/2001 10:37:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, ivor.canning@cwcom.net writes: > n.p. Greenslade 'Time and Tide' > I'm starting to love this Avalon list. In the past few days the names Ollie Halsall, John Miles, Kevin Ayers and now Greenslade (I had forgotten all about them) have not only been mentioned-but people actually know who they are. Very cool. Next someone will bring up Jobriath (I'll admit it-not only do I have his album but also saw him live at the Bottom Line) and Hatfield and the North..or maybe even PFM (that ones for all you/us prog geeks from way back). ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:00:58 -0800 From: "Pete Kohut" Subject: [AVALON] [Avalon] Never Thought Never thought Bryan would do a revival tour or a waltz down nostalgia lane. Every tour he has done including with Roxy was to support an album. This seems so Steve Miller-ish. Die hard fans stuck in the 70's. I would much rather be attending a Bryan Ferry concert that mixed in a few new songs and old Roxy numbers, ala the Mamouna tour. While I enjoyed The Strand, Editions of You & Out of the Blue to name a few, I at least felt like it was December 1994. I even remember saying to my friends that "at least Bryan Ferry hasn't becoma a nostalgia act" . I can do the math however, and can see at 55 there won't be too many more Go Arounds for Bryan. This may be the last chance to see him. For that reason it is likely I will attend RM's concert at LA's Greek theatre. I will probably buy the $32.50 peasant tickets in the back. Luckily it is a small enough venue to still enjoy in the back. Running out of time.
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___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:01:57 EST From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROCK MUSIC FANATIC You spend import prices-$12 each for a 2 part 45 just to get maybe 2 unreleased songs of questionable quality or maybe even 4 remix versions of the same somgs. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:03:27 EST From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROCK MUSIC FANATIC You buy remasters of the same album over and over again when they are released on CD even though you probably hadn't listened to that album in many years (I just did this with Billion Dollar Babies) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:21:27 EST From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROCK MUSIC FANATIC In a message dated 31/03/01 03:49:44 GMT Daylight Time, wilmar77@bellsouth.net writes: << HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROCK MUSIC FANATIC How can you tell? Here's How: >> snip Thanks for this Wilmar irt will save me updating my C.V (Resume) J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:22:09 +0200 From: "danilo" Subject: R: [AVALON] HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROXY MUSIC FANATIC Jeeezes Bill!!! Dan, my Owner is in trouble!!! meeeowww Mr. Ferry ( the cat) ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) - -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: "Bill Gillam" A: "Bill Gillam" Data invio: sabato 31 marzo 2001 4.33 Oggetto: [AVALON] HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE A ROCK MUSIC FANATIC ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:27:47 +0100 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Paul Thompson ! it was that drum break on "Serenade" that got me. For years my record player jumped on it and I think I never it heard it properly until about 1977 Philip > Ok so since the TGPT thing is gathering momentum I was wondering if people > would like to vote for the song to best showcase said TGPT's talents. The > one that springs to mind for me (off the top of my head) is 'Editions of > You'. No dubt some of you will disgaree. > > So go on disagree with your own suggestions! > Cheers > Therese > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:00:52 -0800 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: MUSIC Jads2 comes out: > I'm starting to love this Avalon list. In the past few days the names Ollie > Halsall, John Miles, Kevin Ayers and now Greenslade (I had forgotten all > about them) have not only been mentioned-but people actually know who they > are. Very cool. Next someone will bring up Jobriath (I'll admit it-not only > do I have his album but also saw him live at the Bottom Line) and Hatfield > and the North..or maybe even PFM (that ones for all you/us prog geeks from > way back). YEEESS !! After all this time, I'm beginning to see a pattern emerging here - it's like the X-Men !! No, my friends you're not alone - shunned by a world that hates and fears you, you have found your way here to our very own school for the prog-gifted. Here we can talk freely about Gryphon, King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Hatfield and The North, National Health, Bruford, Magma, Steve Hillage, BeBop Deluxe, Camel, Tangerine Dream, Yes, Focus, Calliope, Premiata Forneria Marconi, ELP, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso, Klaus Schulze, Eloy, Gong, Jethro Tull ... the list is seemingly endless (like a good drum solo) ! But remember, my children, we must only ever use our prog-powers for good !! S;^) Welcome home, Professor Xivor. n.p. King Crimson 'Red' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #128 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest