From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #119 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, March 25 2001 Volume 06 : Number 119 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] XTC ["David Squires " ] [AVALON] Meeting (or avoiding) fellow Avalonians on tour... ["David Squir] RE: [AVALON] [Avalon] Highbrow Holy ["Guy Lawley" ] RE: [AVALON] Roxy and Me ["Guy Lawley" ] [AVALON] Re: Meeting (or avoiding) fellow Avalonians on tour... ["David S] RE: [AVALON] Roxy and Me ["Guy Lawley" ] Re: [AVALON] Re : Dissing Scotland [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Who painted the Mamouna cover? [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Meeting (or avoiding) fellow Avalonians on tour... [KB Porte] Re: [AVALON] Detroit Tickets [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me [stevesiren ] Re: [AVALON] Meeting (or avoiding) fellow Avalonians on tour... [Stephen.] Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me [Jim Rosencutter ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me [Jads2@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Roxy and Me ["Guy Lawley" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me [Bill Gillam ] [AVALON] The Tubes in NYC (no Roxy / Ferry) [Ida M Miller ] [AVALON] Magazine (with some Roxy content) [Jim Rosencutter ] R: [AVALON] The TubesiWORLD TOUR?????????? ["danilo" ] [AVALON] Chicago Avalonians ["Kelly Weinberger" ] Re: [AVALON] ATGB Flashback ["Ivor Canning" ] [AVALON] Chicago on-sale date??? ["Jeff Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] Chicago Avalonians ["Peter Seely" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:52:22 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] XTC On 24 Mar 2001, at 22:16, stevesiren wrote: > Science Friction" was the great lost single of 1977. Every XTC single was the great lost single of whenever it was released! It's always good to hear the great western "rrrrrrr"! David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:52:23 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: [AVALON] Meeting (or avoiding) fellow Avalonians on tour... Dear All You may remember that I offered to collate information about list members attending the various Roxy Music concerts around the world this year. Due to a minor miracle involving sitting down and actually doing it, these pages will be up within the hour. Follow this link: www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html It's very plain and feature-poor (it's my first time in HTML, chasps) but I hope it will be useful. Just to re-cap on how to get your details on to the pages. 1. You contact me off list at Roxy_Tour@squires.nildram.co.uk and let me know which date or dates you'll be at. 2. I will collect and collate this information (names and email addresses) and put it up on the website. 3. Everybody will then know who will be at each show and can then make contact _off list_ if they so wish. Details of a venue for a pre or post gig meeting can also be posted to the web page via the above address. Thanks to everyone who has contacted me so far. Sorry for the delay. Now it's up I'll update it often. Regards, David David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK See like who's where: www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 12:53:23 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] [Avalon] Highbrow Holy A cockle is a little mollusc/shellfish often eaten (at least in the past) with mussels and possibly vinegar. Well known to both Cockneys and Dubliners. The cockles of your heart are the valves which ensure that blood flows the right way when it beats. They were thought to resemble cockles when people dissected hearts for anatomical purposes or indeed to eat. I'm glad to hear yours are warmed. Happy to be part of the industry of human happiness Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Pete Kohut Sent: 24 March 2001 22:58 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] [Avalon] Highbrow Holy .Neil it warms the cockles of my heart to know there is another Ridgway fan out there, even if you spell his name with an E. Wait a second, what is a cockle anyways? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 12:53:35 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy and Me Ah, Louise, you are indeed one of the lucky few (thousand). Magazine are one of the other bands I would love to see reform but know they never will. There are reports that Devoto and former Buzzcocks colleague Pete Shelley will release some new material together, and repeat their one-off live show in London last Autumn, but if true, they're taking their time over it. It warms the cockles of my heart to hear that Magazine played to a packed house in Cleveland. I didn't know there was much appreciation of their magic in the US. Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Louis Simone Sent: 25 March 2001 00:34 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy and Me Guy Lawley wrote: XTC live were just soooo good! As with Roxy, if Andy Partridge ever gets over his stage fright and the band play live again, it will doubtless be a very different experience from the 1978 shows I loved so much. But still one to trek to the N. Pole for! Guy I was one of the lucky ones to see the elusive and reclusive XTC. Saw them open for the Police at the Cleveland Agora in 1978...I was happy enough that night....but when they backed off touring ever again, I was REAL grateful to have seen them...also saw Magazine at the Phantasy Niteclub in cleveland 1979...another great experience...packed house, it was great... Ahhh, the good old days... LP Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:03:56 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy and Me Never saw the *real* Ultravox, sadly (or the feeble pretenders who carried on the name). Pretty good album they put out, wasn't it; some tracks produced by a geezer called Eno... For news on Devoto, look at: http://www.buzzcocks.com/SecretPublic/SP_main/Devoto/devoto.html Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Bill Gillam Sent: 25 March 2001 02:56 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me MAGAZINE! Yup - anybody out there lucky enough to have seen the REAL Ultravox? That being the one with John Foxx? Around the same period of time I saw XTC I saw them at a place in Costa Mesa California called "The Cuckoos Nest".... dinky little place and a simply awesome show. Whatever became of Howard Devoto? Louis Simone wrote: > Guy Lawley wrote: > > XTC live were just soooo good! As with Roxy, if Andy Partridge ever gets > over his stage fright and the band play live again, it will doubtless be a > very different experience from the 1978 shows I loved so much. But still one > to trek to the N. Pole for! > Guy > > I was one of the lucky ones to see the elusive and reclusive XTC. Saw them open for the Police at the Cleveland Agora in 1978...I was happy enough that night....but when they backed off touring ever again, I was REAL grateful to have seen them...also saw Magazine at the Phantasy Niteclub in cleveland 1979...another great experience...packed house, it was great... > > Ahhh, the good old days... > > LP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:05:05 +0100 From: "David Squires " Subject: [AVALON] Re: Meeting (or avoiding) fellow Avalonians on tour... Dear All This link should now be clickable: http://www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html David David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK See like who's where: http://www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 13:15:20 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy and Me Luxuria had 2 albums, the first being Unanswerable Lust, which IMHO is even better than Beast Box. One of their finest hours was the B-side of a 12-inch single, where they did Dylan's She's Your Lover Now Parts 1 & 2. The old protester hadn't released his own version at the time, and only an incomplete take has ever been officially released. Rainy Season wasn't Luxuria, it was solo Devoto from his one solo album which preceded Luxuria. Devoto also co-wrote and sang co-lead on a Mansun B-side a while back, called Railings. I think the A-side was Being A Girl. Railings was probably the best thing Mansun have done to date, I think, and a fine bit of Devoto in its own right. Bitter, twisted and ironic. just how we love him, right? Yes, the Only Ones were good, and so was Perrett's latest project a few years back, The One, which produced a great EP and album. Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Jads2@aol.com Sent: 25 March 2001 04:23 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me I saw the real Ultravox-John Foxx at Hurrah's. I also saw Ultravox Pt2 at Lincoln Center. 2 different bands-both great in their own way. I also saw Magazine a bunch of times-Ritz in NYC-and saw Howard Devoto solo at the Peppermint Lounge. He went on to join Luxuria and put out one album (Beast Box) that had one hit 45-Rainy Season. He stopped music for years and only recently came back to compile the Magazine box set "Maybe It's Right to be Nervous Now" Since it looks like we're starting to talk about old concerts of greats-I have to mention the Only Ones who were great-live and on record. I used to hang out at CBGBs and Max's-and was there for the beginning of punk. Saw Blondie/Ramones/Suicide with only about 20 people in the club. Saw Television many times at CBGBs, Maxs, Mudd Club-and the Lower Manhattan Ocean Club. Television were always one of my favorites of the time. In a Roxy Music vein-the one group that always reminded me of Roxy was Japan. David Sylvian had that Ferry sound to his voice. Japan did make a few excellent albums (Tin Drum especially) but Sylvian went on to make some great solo recordings. This is certainly bringing back great memories. How about posting some of your favorite concerts. I did this with some friends-about the days when 3 groups would be on a bill and sometimes you got a classic show. One of my favorite triple bills was at the Academy of Music-King Crimson, Special Guests Procol Harum and Yes as 3rd on bill. Another one was Elvis Costrello & Attractions, Special Guests Rockpile with Nick Lowe/Dave Edmunds and Mink DeVille. There was also Bryan Ferry and Talking Heads at the Bottom Line. And of course maybe the best ever: Mott the Hoople and Queen at the Uris Theater. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 07:54:54 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re : Dissing Scotland < And let's not forget about The Chieftains - Scotland's finest, imho! > LOL! Don't know what neutrons were firing when I wrote that! Yes, I know The Chieftains are from Ireland, I've known that for nearly twenty years - oh, I can hear Paddy moan. No rational explanation for my lapse, it was just one of those things. Sorry. Thank you for not raining brimstone on me. Humbly yours. K.B.Porter ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:03:21 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Who painted the Mamouna cover? Um....Who painted the Mamouna cover? All the best Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:29:49 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Meeting (or avoiding) fellow Avalonians on tour... < Now it's up I'll update it often. Regards, David David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK See like who's where: www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html > Thank you, David! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 09:18:55 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Detroit Tickets In a message dated 03/21/2001 7:33:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, m_shanahan@hotmail.com writes: > Of course, I'll also need some recommendations on food and lodging. > > ah, now that'll cost you ... :^) > > I'm flying in with my 11 year old son on Saturday evening and leaving on Monday morning. I imagine we'll stay at a hotel on or near the airport grounds and rent a car to get to DTE Energy (or is it called Pine Knob). What is there to do to kill a Sunday morning/afternoon in the Greater Detroit area. Pre-concert meal? Would you like to hook up? Who else from the list is planning on going to Detroit, that you know of? Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:30:48 +0100 From: stevesiren Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me I saw the John Foxx Ultravox at Reading Festival in '78, on the Friday night, they were second billing behind The Jam. Also on the same night were Penetration & Sham 69 I've got a video of about an hours highlights, of the show featuring what was then state of the art laser effects during Ultravox's spot. Steve Bill Gillam wrote: > MAGAZINE! Yup - anybody out there lucky enough to have seen the REAL Ultravox? That being the one with John Foxx? Around the same period of time I saw XTC I saw them at a place in Costa Mesa California called "The Cuckoos Nest".... dinky little place and a simply awesome show. > > Whatever became of Howard Devoto? > > Louis Simone wrote: > > > Guy Lawley wrote: > > > > XTC live were just soooo good! As with Roxy, if Andy Partridge ever gets > > over his stage fright and the band play live again, it will doubtless be a > > very different experience from the 1978 shows I loved so much. But still one > > to trek to the N. Pole for! > > Guy > > > > I was one of the lucky ones to see the elusive and reclusive XTC. Saw them open for the Police at the Cleveland Agora in 1978...I was happy enough that night....but when they backed off touring ever again, I was REAL grateful to have seen them...also saw Magazine at the Phantasy Niteclub in cleveland 1979...another great experience...packed house, it was great... > > > > Ahhh, the good old days... > > > > LP > > Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:59:44 +0200 From: Stephen.Pepperrell@t-online.de (Stephen Pepperrell) Subject: Re: [AVALON] Meeting (or avoiding) fellow Avalonians on tour... This is great, thanks, I'm looking forward to the European entries (continent), Stephen David Squires schrieb: Dear All You may remember that I offered to collate information about list members attending the various Roxy Music concerts around the world this year. Due to a minor miracle involving sitting down and actually doing it, these pages will be up within the hour. Follow this link: www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html It's very plain and feature-poor (it's my first time in HTML, chasps) but I hope it will be useful. Just to re-cap on how to get your details on to the pages. 1. You contact me off list at Roxy_Tour@squires.nildram.co.uk and let me know which date or dates you'll be at. 2. I will collect and collate this information (names and email addresses) and put it up on the website. 3. Everybody will then know who will be at each show and can then make contact _off list_ if they so wish. Details of a venue for a pre or post gig meeting can also be posted to the web page via the above address. Thanks to everyone who has contacted me so far. Sorry for the delay. Now it's up I'll update it often. Regards, David David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK See like who's where: www.squires.nildram.co.uk/Avalon.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:02:52 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me Guy Lawley wrote: > > Ah, Louise, you are indeed one of the lucky few (thousand). Magazine are one > of the other bands I would love to see reform but know they never will. I recently found mp3s of Magazine's "Nervous" box set on Napster. I was surprised to find that many of the tracks were alternate takes, different mixes and live versions. It's especially nice to hear the stuff off of their last two albums without the Martin Hannett murkiness (I'm assuming, not having the liner notes). I will now order a legit copy, knowing that I'm not buying the same old versions I've already purchased up the three times before (vinyl, tape, CD). Too bad some *other bands* don't take this approach to reissues. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:23:28 EST From: Jads2@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me In a message dated 3/25/2001 11:17:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, jrosencutter@kscable.com writes: > I recently found mp3s of Magazine's "Nervous" box set on Napster. I was > surprised to find that many of the tracks were alternate takes, > different mixes and live versions. It's the box set is definately worth it for the music. The actual "box" however is one of the worst I've ever seen. There is next to no information about the Band or the tracks (bare minimum). I don't understand it-it's basically the discs in cardboard sleeves and a booklet with pictures. That's it. Terrible. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 17:30:25 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy and Me Jim, you're in for a real treat with the Magazine box set... as you already know! I've plugged it before on this list and it's good to see Devoto et al getting more mentions! Also, you're indicating that Napster etc. may stimulate rather than inhibit CD sales. Interesting! Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Jim Rosencutter Sent: 25 March 2001 17:03 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me Guy Lawley wrote: > > Ah, Louise, you are indeed one of the lucky few (thousand). Magazine are one > of the other bands I would love to see reform but know they never will. I recently found mp3s of Magazine's "Nervous" box set on Napster. I was surprised to find that many of the tracks were alternate takes, different mixes and live versions. It's especially nice to hear the stuff off of their last two albums without the Martin Hannett murkiness (I'm assuming, not having the liner notes). I will now order a legit copy, knowing that I'm not buying the same old versions I've already purchased up the three times before (vinyl, tape, CD). Too bad some *other bands* don't take this approach to reissues. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:43:10 -0600 From: Bill Gillam Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me I ordered the MAGAZING Box last evening.. I had missed out and been unaware of it. They were a great band at a particularly great point in music history. Guy Lawley wrote: > Jim, you're in for a real treat with the Magazine box set... as you already > know! I've plugged it before on this list and it's good to see Devoto et al > getting more mentions! > > Also, you're indicating that Napster etc. may stimulate rather than inhibit > CD sales. Interesting! > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Jim Rosencutter > Sent: 25 March 2001 17:03 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me > > Guy Lawley wrote: > > > > Ah, Louise, you are indeed one of the lucky few (thousand). Magazine are > one > > of the other bands I would love to see reform but know they never will. > > I recently found mp3s of Magazine's "Nervous" box set on Napster. I was > surprised to find that many of the tracks were alternate takes, > different mixes and live versions. It's especially nice to hear the > stuff off of their last two albums without the Martin Hannett murkiness > (I'm assuming, not having the liner notes). > > I will now order a legit copy, knowing that I'm not buying the same old > versions I've already purchased up the three times before (vinyl, tape, > CD). Too bad some *other bands* don't take this approach to reissues. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:52:41 -0800 From: Ida M Miller Subject: [AVALON] The Tubes in NYC (no Roxy / Ferry) By any chance, are there any Avalonians in the NYC area who are planning to go to BB Kings Blues Club in NYC on Monday, April 2nd, to see The Tubes? If so, please contact me off-list for a possible Chance Meeting. Ida ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 08:57:42 -0800 From: Ida M Miller Subject: [AVALON] Russian interview video I have all the copies dubbed that I need to cover the outstanding requests from folks who indicated that they wanted a copy of this interview in NTSC format. This is just a sanity check to see if there are any late-comers; if not, then I can pack this project up and put it away before I leave on a trip on Tuesday. Please contact me off-list if you want a copy, but have not let me know yet. Thanks. Ida ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:43:47 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: [AVALON] Magazine (with some Roxy content) > the box set is definately worth it for the music. The actual "box" however > is one of the worst I've ever seen. There is next to no information about > the Band or the tracks (bare minimum). I don't understand it-it's basically > the discs in cardboard sleeves and a booklet with pictures. That's it. > Terrible. I just checked on the excellent shotbybothsides.com web site for info on this box set. They have a bit of detail on the tracks, but it may just be what is in the liner notes. While there, I noticed another new Magazine comp called "Where the Power Is." (I think their compilations now outnumber their actual albums, just like Roxy.) Here is an excerpt from the web site, which may or may not be from the liner notes of "Power." Contains mentions of Roxy, putting this discussion on topic: "Listening to Magazine now - is rather like listening to early Velvet Underground - the first two albums by Roxy Music - or the tragically neglected of Cockney Rebel. Not that Magazine sound like these particular groups - but that they share that rare mix of seemingly disparate elements - held in place by an utterly original vocal style - the articulation of an entire sensibility which goes to create a genuinely pivotal and inspirational groups. "If you think about the mix of personnel and influences in The Velvet Underground or the original Roxy Music album line-up - it would seem as though such an outlandish collaboration could never work. But it is out of these apparent collisions that the real originality - and rock music has always been a reasonably conservative medium - breaks through. "Andrew Mackay - Roxy Music's saxophone and woodwind player - once likened such unlikely (but artistically important) combinations of musicians to a recipe in Marinetti's "Futurist Cookbook" called "Car crash": "It's a hemisphere of pureed dates and a hemisphere of pureed anchovies - " he explained about his experience Of early Roxy Music - "which are then stuck together in a ball and served in a pool of raspberry juice. I mean - it's virtually inedible - but it can be done." ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:46:05 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy and Me Guy Lawley wrote: > > Also, you're indicating that Napster etc. may stimulate rather than inhibit > CD sales. Interesting! Radical, isn't it? Don't let the RIAA know . . . ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:53:56 +0200 From: "danilo" Subject: R: [AVALON] The TubesiWORLD TOUR?????????? ARE Spooner Waybill RE and the guys still alive??????? JEZEE!!! Please, can someone tape the concert???? Italian-with-no-good-music dan :-) - -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: "Ida M Miller" A: "AVALON mailing list" Data invio: domenica 25 marzo 2001 18.52 Oggetto: [AVALON] The Tubes in NYC (no Roxy / Ferry) > By any chance, are there any Avalonians in the NYC area who are planning > to go to BB Kings Blues Club in NYC on Monday, April 2nd, to see The > Tubes? > > If so, please contact me off-list for a possible Chance Meeting. > > > Ida > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 12:21:00 -0600 From: Bill Gillam Subject: [AVALON] Ultravox off topic I know this goes WAY back.. but I never managed to determine why John Foxx was replaced with Midge Ure. Does anyone on this list know that story? I remember seeing the original line up.. then some months later there was another booking at the same venue that I attended and the crowd, including me, was caught by surprise that there was a new vocalist. I bought the first non Foxx LP but lost interest after that. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 18:25:08 From: "Kelly Weinberger" Subject: [AVALON] Chicago Avalonians Just checking to see if any fellow Chicago-area Avalonians have had any luck purchasing tickets yet. The official website states that the tickets go on sale today at noon...never mind the confusion that the SFX website states April 8th. Help! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 19:29:16 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Magazine (with some Roxy content) Thanks for those notes, Jim. Nice stuff. Love the Mackay quote. Where The Power Is was released at the same time as the box set, rather strangely. I don't know if it just has the original album and single versions, instead of the wealth of alternate rakes etc. on the boxed discs. BTW, I've said this before, but one of the boxed CDs is all radio session versions, and these are the really outstanding tracks, IMHO. Like early Roxy with Eno, the band really lets rip in the radio studio. The similarities don't end there either; some of the synth and sax work is really Roxy-esque! Great stuff. Also, I *liked* the design of the box! You can please some of the people all of the time, etc...! Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Jim Rosencutter Sent: 25 March 2001 18:44 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Magazine (with some Roxy content) > the box set is definately worth it for the music. The actual "box" however > is one of the worst I've ever seen. There is next to no information about > the Band or the tracks (bare minimum). I don't understand it-it's basically > the discs in cardboard sleeves and a booklet with pictures. That's it. > Terrible. I just checked on the excellent shotbybothsides.com web site for info on this box set. They have a bit of detail on the tracks, but it may just be what is in the liner notes. While there, I noticed another new Magazine comp called "Where the Power Is." (I think their compilations now outnumber their actual albums, just like Roxy.) Here is an excerpt from the web site, which may or may not be from the liner notes of "Power." Contains mentions of Roxy, putting this discussion on topic: "Listening to Magazine now - is rather like listening to early Velvet Underground - the first two albums by Roxy Music - or the tragically neglected of Cockney Rebel. Not that Magazine sound like these particular groups - but that they share that rare mix of seemingly disparate elements - held in place by an utterly original vocal style - the articulation of an entire sensibility which goes to create a genuinely pivotal and inspirational groups. "If you think about the mix of personnel and influences in The Velvet Underground or the original Roxy Music album line-up - it would seem as though such an outlandish collaboration could never work. But it is out of these apparent collisions that the real originality - and rock music has always been a reasonably conservative medium - breaks through. "Andrew Mackay - Roxy Music's saxophone and woodwind player - once likened such unlikely (but artistically important) combinations of musicians to a recipe in Marinetti's "Futurist Cookbook" called "Car crash": "It's a hemisphere of pureed dates and a hemisphere of pureed anchovies - " he explained about his experience Of early Roxy Music - "which are then stuck together in a ball and served in a pool of raspberry juice. I mean - it's virtually inedible - but it can be done." ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:06:22 EST From: BPhilipson@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Chicago Avalonians I called ticketmaster and checked the website and was not able to purchase tickets. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:02:25 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: [AVALON] Zenyatta Mondatta I was listening to ZM by the Police and Andy Summer's echo guitar predates Manzanera's. Voices Inside My Head could have been lifted off Avalon. Ferry tried to recapture that on his subsequent solo albums. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:54:59 -0800 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] ATGB Flashback Dear All, Delurking (sadly, only very briefly) to say the survivors of last summer's Ferry tour might like to know that their favourite support act has a live show reviewed in Mojo this month (April edition) - check out page 130 for a photograph of Pete Stanley, complete with banjo (together with the altogether more remarkable and indeed legendary Wizz Jones) S8^) More than that - apparently original vinyl copies of an obscure 1964 album of his is reckoned to be worth #180 (GBP) !! Weirdarama or what ? Regards (tea-break over, back on my head), Ivor n.p. Robert Wyatt 'Going Back A Bit' ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 15:08:01 -0600 From: "Jeff Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Chicago on-sale date??? I just spoke to someone in the Allstate Arena boxoffice and asked if they knew when tickets for Roxy Music were to go on sale. Her first response was an earsplitting "WHO?" I told her again. "Who's that?" "They're an English band from the 70s who's doing a reunion tour and they're playing at your facility on July 30." "Did they sing (insert name of song I've never heard of here)." "No, they sang 'Love is the Drug.'" And so on.... At this point I think she thought I was asking about Roxette. Anyway, she finally found a listing and said "Noon on Sunday March 25." I told her Ticketmaster doesn't know anything about it. And she said, "Well, they wouldn't because it wouldn't be on their computer yet." I said, "How could they be selling tickets for it if it's not on their computer?" "Oh, is today the 25th?" Now, one question I'd like to pose to our UK members: is customer service this bad on your side of the ocean too, or is this just an American thing? She finally concluded that the date must have been changed, since today is the 25th and they're not on sale now. After thanking her and hanging up, I decided that the SFX date of April 8 must be correct. Phil Manzanera's site now says, "Tickets are on sale Sunday March 26 at noon according to the Rosemont web site and Sunday April 8th at noon according to SFX." which means that his folks don't know either. Also, Sunday March 26 is a date that doesn't exist in the year of our Lord 2001. Or maybe that's the problem--since it's a date that doesn't exist (much like the second Tuesday of next week), maybe that's why the tickets aren't on sale yet. Tickets shouldn't have to be so difficult to order. Although I guess it could be worse--Roxy might not have decided to do a reunion tour. Anxiously yours, Jeff _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 14:25:10 -0500 From: "Peter Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Chicago Avalonians Tickets did not go on sale today, as advertised, nor are they likely to go on sale tomorrow.Someone at the Allstate Arena even confirmed that they would be on sale today. We waited in a snowstorm for two hours with no luck. This is really getting out of hand in Chicago. I wish someone from the band could step in and help straighten out this ridiculous mess. Remember all those people a few years ago who wanted the government to run like a business? How would you like your government running like the triumvirate of Allstate Arena, Ticketmaster, and SFX? Pete - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Weinberger" To: Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 6:25 PM Subject: [AVALON] Chicago Avalonians > Just checking to see if any fellow Chicago-area Avalonians have had any luck > purchasing tickets yet. The official website states that the tickets go on > sale today at noon...never mind the confusion that the SFX website states > April 8th. Help! > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #119 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest