From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #92 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, March 8 2001 Volume 06 : Number 092 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] top billing [long] [Alan Simonelli ] Re: [AVALON] [Avalon]web address DTE Enegry Music Theatre ["David Firmin"] [AVALON] To those in the know ["David Firmin" ] [AVALON] ahhhh...The Bridge of Sighs Now on TV.? [jmdillon@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] Warner Bros. [AMeyersLD@aol.com] [AVALON] Ray Davies ["Guy Lawley" ] [AVALON] Roxy Music represent such good value for money [Chandla911@aol.c] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:14:29 -0500 From: Alan Simonelli Subject: Re: [AVALON] top billing [long] Howdy Mark! According to the Free Press, a $3 fee will be added to each ticket for parking. Whether that's included in the prices we've seen quoted, I'm not sure. Here's the link if you want more info: www.detroitfreepress.com/news/statewire/sw28944_20010222.htm So, do you suppose they won't ever sell lawn seats to this event? I've never heard of them selling only pavillion. That would truly be an unusual move. Perhaps they're just offering pavillion for now, but will open the lawn up later. Otherwise, why not just have it at an indoor venue? Hmmmmm....... Now I just have to figure out a ploy for showing up to work late on Monday, so I can be first in line for tickets. Happily I think my boss will understand. "Slave to Love" was the first dance at her wedding. Cheers and happy ticket hunting! Amy mark shanahan wrote: > > thanks, chris - i'd forgotten to mention that it's pavillion only (they > don't want anyone sliding down a muddy hill in their white tuxedos & siren > outfits, now do they?). > > but, btw, the box office person told me that you COULD buy tickets through > them - via telephone. i'll try to call tomorrow to confirm this. > > ___________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:31:37 -0800 From: "Pete Kohut" Subject: [AVALON] [Avalon]web address DTE Enegry Music Theatre The URL for DTE energy music theatre is http://www.placenet.com/index.cfm?category=2 It says capacity is over 15,000. That figure is counting the lawn which they are not using for this show. Most americans with modest monetary means can only imagine vicariously about such historic places as the Bridge Of Sighs (great album and song by RT). Travel budget and all.... I wonder what most Europians think of Canoga Park. Bryan sings of this city in the wonderful San Fernando Valley. Obviously long winding roads from Cuesta Way to Sunset and the Beach and Canoga Park being a straight drive, indicate Bryan's fimiliarity with this terrain and indicates he has spent some time here...get the feeling it wasn't the best of times...remember he couldn't let go until every trace was gone..Belaire's OK if you dig that grave, but I want to live again... < ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:12:59 -0500 From: ganymede.zeus@verizon.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] Warner Bros. Warner Brothers situation is just symptomatic of the larger problem: all large companies, institutions, governments and organizations ultimately put people (men and women...imagine that?) in positions of leadership who care more for money, power and status than they do for for music, art, science, education, the common welfare or the causes they purport to advance. That is because such people possess a killer instinct that more sensitive and compassionate people do not. Not to say such types don't achieve good ends, but what's to be done? You can't have a bleeding heart at the head of a massive administrative structure. It doesn't work. The lioness kills because she sees no choice in the matter. "We laugh, we cry, we live, we die, we don't....know why." "Sign of the Times", B.Dylan. redone by Bryan Ferry Andrew David Firmin wrote: > I was reading a Marc Bolan article about his troubles with Warners, and Andy > Mackay's name came up. > > > Roxy's sax symbol, Andy Mackay summed up WB's the best: "I don't blame > Warners ... They just aren't very good." > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:20:41 -0600 From: "Paul Bodine" Subject: [AVALON] Song for Europe Maybe someone's mentioned this already, but I always interpreted 'Song for Europe' as just what its title suggests, a song sung to Europe, a nostalgic farewell to a Romantic Europe destroyed by world war, consumerism, or the modern world, etc. The line "There4s no today for us" implies that the singer doesn't feel any great optimism for the future of the post-Romantic Europe he finds himself in. The singer's "obsession" may be the Romantic's "dreamy" vision of life that the modern world has made obsolete. Ferry may also have chosen Latin because it's the root language of the Romance languages, again suggesting that the recipient of the song is Europe itself rather than (or in addition to) a woman. But I could be wrong . . . Paul Bodine ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:23:56 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: Re: [AVALON] [Avalon]web address DTE Enegry Music Theatre Pete, The San Fernando Valley jams (American for Rocks). I bought so many great Roxy CDs and LPs dirt cheap. They have more record stores per square mile, than anywhere else in the US (which isn't saying much). I got more in London in two weeks than anywhere else in the US during my whole lifetime. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Kohut To: Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 7:31 PM Subject: [AVALON] [Avalon]web address DTE Enegry Music Theatre > The URL for DTE energy music theatre is > http://www.placenet.com/index.cfm?category=2 > It says capacity is over 15,000. That figure is counting the lawn which they > are not using for this show. Most americans with modest monetary means can > only imagine vicariously about such historic places as the Bridge Of Sighs > (great album and song by RT). Travel budget and all.... I wonder what most > Europians think of Canoga Park. Bryan sings of this city in the wonderful San > Fernando Valley. Obviously long winding roads from Cuesta Way to Sunset and > the Beach and Canoga Park being a straight drive, indicate Bryan's fimiliarity > with this terrain and indicates he has spent some time here...get the feeling > it wasn't the best of times...remember he couldn't let go until every trace > was gone..Belaire's OK if you dig that grave, but I want to live again... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:32:39 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: [AVALON] To those in the know Eddie Jobson and Bill Bruford http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dfirmin/brujob.jpg ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:42:02 -0500 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: [AVALON] ahhhh...The Bridge of Sighs Now on TV.? OK..so I need to ask. Are the stars coming together? Is there some preordained celestial alignment in the works here that was just worked out his week? "Huh? Whats that? Ethel honey, where is my beer and what is that he just said?" Tonight. Just before I go in to lay my head down to sleep, I am flipping through the cable channels here in the states when I come across a movie with Sir Lawrence Olivier on T.M.C. ( Turner Classic Movies ). He has always been a favorite since I saw "W.H.", period. Yes, you are right, he has had more than a few poor parts in some even poorer movies but what the heck did he just say about a bridge? "Ethel, do we have any more of them there cheese things? And I tell you I can't understand what the hell this guy is talking about. Do you?" Lawrence Olivier, on a balcony, (in the movie, on my TV screen) in a European type setting, talking in impassioned tones to a young (young!) teenage couple and did he just say something about a bridge? Sir Lawrence Olivier: "If you truly love each other, and I mean truly love each other. The you must do something unforgettable. Something spectacular. Something that you will remember and keep you close from now until forever." Long pause. "You must kiss each other, at sunset, in a gondola, as you pass under the .... Bridge of Sighs." Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat? I bolt straight up and hit the information bottom on the cable remote. : A Little Romance (1979) TCM Wed Mar 07 10:00 PMMovies, 120 Mins. *** (Rated PG) A worldly Parisian tells two teen-age lovers to kiss at dusk under the BRIDGE OF SIGHS IN VENICE. Adult Situations; Language. Cast: Laurence Olivier, Diane Lane, Thelonious Bernard, Arthur Hill, Sally Kellerman, David Dukes, Broderick Crawford. Director(s): George Roy Hill. There is only about 20 minutes left of the movie. I wonder, will I? And there, during the last 15 minutes of the movie, the recent star of conversation, thee "Bridge of Sighs". A beautifully covered bridge, in graceful masonry relief, spanning across one of the canals from one building to another, about 2 or 3 stories above the gliding gondolas below. WOW! This information age is too much! "Ethel, no more of that Mr. Beer and them there Bon Bon's for me. I gets too excited. And I'll be damned if I not seeing things." Regards John Dillon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:50:35 EST From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Warner Bros. In a message dated 3/7/01 10:20:16 PM, ganymede.zeus@verizon.net writes: << Warner Brothers situation is just symptomatic of the larger problem: all large companies, institutions, governments and organizations ultimately put people (men and women...imagine that?) in positions of leadership who care more for money, power and status than they do for for music >> A brilliant freind of mine once said that any organization bigger than five people inevitably turns into a beaurocracy. "Think of the Stones: Five guys, they're a fuckin' great rock band... they hire a Keyboardist, and Bang! They are a corporation..." Food for thought. Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:13:21 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: [AVALON] Ray Davies I would recommend his "Storyteller" shows, having seen one of the first run a few years back. Davies and one other acoustic guitar player and a bunch of the best English pop songs ever written, interspersed with personal and autobiographical anecdotes. Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Tim Kendrick Sent: 07 March 2001 14:43 To: Avalonia Subject: [AVALON] LA music Playing some stuff by Ray Davies - what an astonishingly gifted man he is, quite by himself in the pantheon of sixties pop, and magnificent ever since whether selling truckloads of records or struggling to give them away - the other day, I came across this lyric from my favourite pop song about L.A. next to CAN'T LET GO. Is this the first use of Garbo's famous line in pop music? ... Don't step on Greta Garbo as you walk down the boulevard, She looks so sweet and fragile, that's why she tried so hard, But they turned her into a princess And they sat her on a throne, But she turned her back on stardom Because she wanted to be alone. ( From CELLULOID HEROES) It's not probable, I guess, that Ferry owes this song any direct debt, though we could make a lot out of the shared Englishness of Davies' and Ferry's music, and wonder how much Ferry owes him. Albeit that Davies is a subtler, more disturbing, discomfiting talent. Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 04:03:54 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music represent such good value for money I didn't realise before that the Roxy tour tickets were so cheap! But now U2 have announced Earls Court with tickets at face value for #45, I realise that if Ferry and the lads weren't setting a precedent, they were certainly following in the vanguard of rip-off prices. Don't get me wrong, I like U2 also (mainly through the Eno connection) but I feel that this price is way out of order. Before anyone else points it out, while I still go ahead (like thousands of others) and pay the price, it's market forces and they can charge what they like, right? Whatever happened to "He who pays the piper calls the tune"? Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #92 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest