From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #91 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, March 7 2001 Volume 06 : Number 091 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] The bridge it sighs [ganymede.zeus@verizon.net] Re: [AVALON] The bridge it sighs ["Ton Darly" ] Re: [AVALON] Neat find! ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music 1st Confirmed Dates USA ["Don Becker" ] Re: [AVALON] A Song For Europe [KB Porter ] [AVALON] newspaper ? ["Reecey" ] Re: [AVALON] A Song For Europe ["Tim Kendrick" ] [AVALON] LA music ["Tim Kendrick" ] [AVALON] THREE VENETIAN NOCTURNES ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] The bridge it sighs ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music 1st Confirmed Dates USA [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Re: In Support.... [Daniel Atterbom ] R: [AVALON] Country Life promo puzzlebuzzle ["danilo" ] [AVALON] How not to sell records... ["Chris Turner" ] [AVALON] Roxy USA Dates: Additions & Corrections [jmdillon@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] A Song For Europe [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] top billing [long] ["mark shanahan" ] RE: [AVALON]- Calling all (Scottish) Avalonians ["Chris Turner" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 04:16:36 -0500 From: ganymede.zeus@verizon.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] The bridge it sighs The phrase (bridge of sighs) was coined, I believe, by Lord Byron. Who knows, he may have made the reference to the "silken waters" as well. "Vanity, vanity. All is vanity. There is nothing new under the sun." Andrew cecilia wrote: > --- Ton Darly wrote: > > > Originally, I thought that the reference to the Bridge of Sighs was > > misplaced, because the scene ("the Seine", nice association, isn't > > it?) is > > in Paris, while the bridge of Sighs is in Venice. > > But, at the same time, BF is talking about a gondola at the Seine. > > Ton, I think the first scene is in Paris: > "And here by the Seine - Notre-Dame casts A long lonely shadow" > but the Paris scene ends here. > > After the refrain we're already in Venice: > > "[These cities may change But there always remains My obsession] > Through silken waters > My gondola glides > And the bridge - it sighs ..." > > So Bryan is talking about a gondola in Venice, the way it must be. > And, the same way, silken waters are Venice (and not Paris)'s ones. > > Albeit Venice waters can't really be described as silken nowadays. > Who knows which image of Venice Bry had in mind. > > Cecilia in Venice > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:26:22 +0100 From: "Ton Darly" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The bridge it sighs Cecilia wrote: '...but the Paris scene ends here. After the refrain we're already in Venice: "[These cities may change...' This is an interesting thought! I've always read the word 'change' as: these cities may change in themselves, their shape may change, new buildings may be raised, people live and die, and so on. But now I see that 'change' also means: exchanging the cities, travelling, a change of scenery. This makes the song even more universal - and desperate: no matter where you are, the obsession and its resulting sorrow are always and everywhere the same. Inevitable, there's no escape! Ton _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:35:18 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Neat find! The version of You Go To My Head on there is great! SimonG >>> David Firmin 03/06 5:43 pm >>> That reminds me of a used LP I picked up. It's titled "All Night Operator" Live at the Bottom Line, New York City, 1977. It has Spedding, Wetton, Manzo and Thommo and it's f**king great! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:04:10 -0500 From: "Don Becker" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music 1st Confirmed Dates USA The Molson Centre, Air Canada Centre and GM Place are hockey/basketball arenas, comparable in size w/ Madison Square Garden. It'll be interesting to see where they end up in New York. - -- Don Becker don@adelphi.edu http://www.donbecker.org Unix System Administrator, Adelphi University http://www.adelphi.edu Adelphi Panthers: 29-0! Only undefeated men's B-Ball team in the US! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 9:44 PM Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music 1st Confirmed Dates USA > Good Evening All > In the never ending effort to find out the Roxy Music North American Tour > Dates I bring you new additional information that was posted today on Phil > Manzanera's RoxyRamma and other web sites. > > So far the story is: > >From the Original Tour Schedule with Individual information listed below: > > Toronto : July 16, 2001 * > Montreal: July 17, 2001* > Philadelphia: July 19, 2001* > Washington > Boston > New York > Cleveland > Detroit : July 29, 2001* > Chicago > Vancouver: August 8, 2001* > San Francisco > Los Angeles > > > The Toronto Date is Confirmed > Information is: > Toronto Monday 16th July 2001 > Air Canada Centre Toronto, ON, 40 Bay Street Toronto, ON M5J2X2 > Box office & Info Line: 416-870-8000 > Ticket Vendor: Ticketmaster 416-872-5000 > > Montreal July 17th - Montreal's Molson Centre > Not as of yet Confirmed and no current date of when ticket may go on sale. > > Detroit is Confirmed > Information is : > Detroit Sunday 29th July 2001 > DTE Energy Music Theatre > Clarkston, MI, 7773 Pine Knob Rd. Clarkston, MI 48348 > Box office & Info Line: 248-377-0100 > Ticket Vendor: Ticketmaster 248-645-6666 > Ticket prices are for pavilion seating only at $72.50 and $52.50 > Tickets go on sale Monday March 12th at 10 AM. 8 ticket limit. > > The Philadelphia / Camden, New Jersey: Has a date, a venue and is listed on > Ticketmaster but supposedly still not "Confirmed" > But:. > Tickets Go On Sale Saturday, April 7, 2001 and there a limit of 8 per > customer. > Charge by phone @ 856-338-9000 > > Vancouver August 3rd - Vancouver's GM Place > Not Confirmed and no current date of when ticket may go on sale. > > Well there you have it. The Roxy Music North American tour slowly starts to > flesh itself out. Could our gentle ladies and gentlemen from Montreal and > Detroit give some information on the general size or seating capacity of the > confirmed venues? I may be personally way off base but I can not help but > think that there was a time when the promoters were trying their damnedest > to gauge the size of venues they needed to successfully pick for this NA > tour. Cant be too small but blocks of unsold seats could be a P & L death > knell. > > Oh yeah, I just though I would mention again in case some one might have > been missed it.... > > ROXY MUSIC TICKETS GO ON SALE IN LESS THEN ONE WEEK. > > I hope this information is helpful. You are now returned to your regularly > scheduled programming. > > Regards > John Dillon > > > Additional thanks to Chris Turners reporting. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:25:02 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan on the radio http://www.wfmu.org/Playlists/Monica/playlist.html It's an interview that was on WMFU (a New Jersey/New York radio station) a couple of weeks ago . It seems as though it's all about ATGB, but I've only just started listening. SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:35:31 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] A Song For Europe Dear Ton: I'm slow on reply - got hung up reading Lord Byron poetry. It is his "CHILDE HAROLD'S PILGRIMAGE: CANTO THE FOURTH" therein Byron speaks of the Bridge of Sighs: Verse I 1 I stood in Venice, on the Bridge of Sighs; 2 A palace and a prison on each hand: 3 I saw from out the wave her structures rise 4 As from the stroke of the enchanter's wand: 5 A thousand years their cloudy wings expand 6 Around me, and a dying Glory smiles 7 O'er the far times, when many a subject land 8 Look'd to the winged Lion's marble piles, 9 Where Venice sate in state, thron'd on her hundred isles! This specific canto is comprised of 162 lines. This, the fourth canto and the first two make a good read. I plan to move on to Don Juan next. Whether or not Byron's writings influenced Ferry's lyrics in ASFE is probably mute or irrelevant. I tend to think that the Bridge of Sighs and Notre Dame were mentioned in the lyrics since they are in two renown European cities, Venice and Paris, in two reputed romantic European countries, Italy and France. No doubt BF has spent significant time in both, and has memories associated with them. There is not doubt that A Song For Europe is a serious song, however I can't help but feel it is something of a hyperbole because of its excesses. As you have stated, three languages used to say the same thing. Which side of the medal is it? The edge, I say. Serious and encompassing. Emphatic and picturesque. Backed to the wall, I believe this is once again a Ferry song that perhaps has much hidden meaning (discernible on a deeply personal level - his), or it might just as well be a song of amusement. Imagine Ferry sitting in a cafe, his thoughts wandering. He thinks of a past affair that had meant much to him at the time. He muses, the tragedy of it all - the wonderful times, themselves, amazing creations of emotions felt at the moment - wonderful times now gone, never to be recaptured because they are of the past. So unique, those emotions, once sparkling now dead, that they will never be recreated in the future. No, never the same. Sitting in the cafe reminiscing, remembering the Seine. The river continues to flow. In Venice, the prisoners no longer sigh as they cross the bridge, there are no more inquisitions. There is no need to sigh, it is all in the past. The bridge remains, it is only a reminder of what once was, a reminder that never, not ever, can never again ever be the same. His gondola smoothly glides through the silken waters of the canal: His conveyance is calm and certain. Should troubled waters lie ahead, he will 'cross that bridge when he gets there'. Perhaps Bryan Ferry isn't all doom and gloom. (Everything else is just another high?) Does anyone have comments or thoughts about A Song For Europe that they wish to share with us? Last call! Best wishes. K.B.Porter ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:18:50 -0000 From: "Reecey" Subject: [AVALON] newspaper ? Can any of you UK journo/media types help ? Desperately need a copy of yesterdays (Tues 6th March) 'The Independent' newspaper. Any of you got it ? A customer has told me there's an article about Vinyl/record Shops etc - and my Shop gets a mention - and I can't get the damn thing anywhere... Please email me if any of you have it, ta much... Reecey... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:33:58 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] A Song For Europe This has no direct link to Ferry, but as we're coming over all poetic, I thought the following lines from the great David Gascoyne might be apposite. It's from his THREE VENETIAN NOCTURNES, written in the late 1940s. ( But this fabulous poet is still with us!) : ...On the lagoon drifts shreds of serenade from the lanterned boats That bob more quickly like a pulse when from the Lido steers Close past them the returning vaporetto; the heart beats More quickly for a moment, lifted on a wave of tears Upwelling but not breaking in the eyes of one who floats Reclining in a gondola alone and with the tide Being borne across the Bacino toward where all the stars In heaven like spilt pearls blur on the black robe Venice wears Slackly undulating round her when as a nocturnal bride She mourns her morning glory long drowned in the sea of years. ***** Could that reclining person be, i wonder...? Maybe! Incidentally, people with an interest in 20th Century art might like to know that Gascoyne was the author of the very first book about surrealism published in English, back in 1935. Lots of stuff about people like Duchamp and Dali by a man who actually knew them. It's called A SHORT SURVEY OF SURREALISM, and last year it was reissued by the splendid Enitharmon Press for a measly eight quid! Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:43:02 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: [AVALON] LA music Playing some stuff by Ray Davies - what an astonishingly gifted man he is, quite by himself in the pantheon of sixties pop, and magnificent ever since whether selling truckloads of records or struggling to give them away - the other day, I came across this lyric from my favourite pop song about L.A. next to CAN'T LET GO. Is this the first use of Garbo's famous line in pop music? ... Don't step on Greta Garbo as you walk down the boulevard, She looks so sweet and fragile, that's why she tried so hard, But they turned her into a princess And they sat her on a throne, But she turned her back on stardom Because she wanted to be alone. ( From CELLULOID HEROES) It's not probable, I guess, that Ferry owes this song any direct debt, though we could make a lot out of the shared Englishness of Davies' and Ferry's music, and wonder how much Ferry owes him. Albeit that Davies is a subtler, more disturbing, discomfiting talent. Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 14:59:03 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] THREE VENETIAN NOCTURNES Pick the Roxy and Ferry songs out of that one!!!! >>> "Tim Kendrick" 03/07 2:33 pm >>> This has no direct link to Ferry, but as we're coming over all poetic, I thought the following lines from the great David Gascoyne might be apposite. It's from his THREE VENETIAN NOCTURNES, written in the late 1940s. ( But this fabulous poet is still with us!) : ...On the lagoon drifts shreds of serenade from the lanterned boats That bob more quickly like a pulse when from the Lido steers Close past them the returning vaporetto; the heart beats More quickly for a moment, lifted on a wave of tears Upwelling but not breaking in the eyes of one who floats Reclining in a gondola alone and with the tide Being borne across the Bacino toward where all the stars In heaven like spilt pearls blur on the black robe Venice wears Slackly undulating round her when as a nocturnal bride She mourns her morning glory long drowned in the sea of years. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:32:20 -0000 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] The bridge it sighs On 7 Mar 2001, at 12:26, Ton Darly wrote: > This makes the song even more universal - and desperate: no matter > where you are, the obsession and its resulting sorrow are always > and everywhere the same. Inevitable, there's no escape! Which in turn reminds me of the mock travel documentary that preceded The Life of Brian in UK cinemas, with a John Cleese voice- over. Apart from constantly re-visiting Venice (with "all those bloody gondolas"), the increasingly hysterical v/o continues along the lines that "you can go abroad on holiday but your troubles come with you - I mean, can't you see the existential horror of it all?" David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:41:58 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Billy Donald's new Paul Thompson site Paul and Billy have been working on a few things for the fan site and it has been coming along beautifully. Newest additions to the site include a new site map to make browsing the site a little easier, as well as a news page, a tour page where any and all confirmed tour dates involving Paul will be posted, and a page transcribing Paul's Rhythm magazine article about John Bonham, which can also be found on this website. And as always, feedback is more than welcome. Any comments or ideas can be e-mailed to Billy! Hope to see you all there! http://www.geocities.com/billy_the_p/paul_home.html Thanks ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:29:23 +0100 From: "danilo" Subject: R: [AVALON] The bridge it sighs and the Ferry boats > This makes the song even more universal - and desperate: no matter where you > are, the obsession and its resulting sorrow are always and everywhere the > same. Inevitable, there's no escape! > > Ton TARGET TON!!!!! .-))))))))))))))))))))) no escape-Dan .-) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:42:32 +0100 From: "danilo" Subject: R: [AVALON] The bridge it sighs and Waits for.... OK NEXT AMA IN VENICE!!!! What do U think about it REECEY? ddddan - -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: A: Data invio: mercoledl 7 marzo 2001 10.16 Oggetto: Re: [AVALON] The bridge it sighs > The phrase (bridge of sighs) was coined, I believe, by Lord Byron. Who knows, > he may have made the reference to the "silken waters" as well. "Vanity, > vanity. All is vanity. There is nothing new under the sun." > > Andrew > > cecilia wrote: > > > After the refrain we're already in Venice: > > > > "[These cities may change But there always remains My obsession] > > Cecilia in Venice ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:18:07 +0100 From: "danilo" Subject: R: [AVALON] The bridge it sighs over trouble waters > that "you can go abroad on holiday but your troubles come with you - I > mean, can't you see the existential horror of it all?" > > David > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > Jeezes I can!!!!!!!!! .-(((((((((((((((((((((( dan-italy ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:23:19 +0100 From: Stephen.Pepperrell@t-online.de (Stephen Pepperrell) Subject: Re: [AVALON] mirror glass & picture frame 1st one was also titled: Original Mirrors, released by Mercury 9102039 in 1980 2nd was titled: Heart-twango Raw-beat - a year later, code 6359046 also by Mercury hope this helps, Stephen danilo schrieb: Ciao Stephen Do U remember the albums name or the label? thanx ddd ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 17:47:29 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] top billing i have another two seconds to pop in. check out how the tour's being billed, as of right now: http://palacenet.hydrogenmedia.com/index.cfm?category=2 why, it's the bryan, andy, and phil show. when are negotiations supposed to be finished re: getting TGPT in on the drummer's seat, etc.? and - ouch - $72 beans! at least it's an outdoor facility ... er, wait - is that good? i guess i mean it's not a complete monolithic arena from hell show ... peaces/ms _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:42:34 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music 1st Confirmed Dates USA Thanks--many thanks--to John for taking the time and posting this info to the list. May I please asked that folks who have this info please post it to the list in order to assist those of us who can't check all the Roxy related websites all the time? It'd be a nice gesture of community. Colleen (who is afraid that the DC date will (1) force her to come home from Bermuda early and (2) be so expensive she may not be able to go to Bermuda) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:49:05 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Country Life promo puzzle I found this neat item on eBay pic http://www.trashdaddy.com/ebay/DCP_5110.jpg Thet have a lot of other rare stuff. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:04:01 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: In Support.... At 17.48 -0800 1-03-04, Julie Long wrote: >My own personal worst pairing experience was REO Speedwagon opening for >Blondie >@ Winterland in 1978. Those were the days... How about Jimi Hendrix opening for The Monkeys? Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 11:15:40 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: In Support.... I saw Van Halen open for Sparks. on 3/7/01 11:04 AM, Daniel Atterbom at daniel.atterbom@odata.se wrote: > At 17.48 -0800 1-03-04, Julie Long wrote: >> My own personal worst pairing experience was REO Speedwagon opening for >> Blondie >> @ Winterland in 1978. Those were the days... > > How about Jimi Hendrix opening for The Monkeys? > > Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:28:43 +0100 From: "danilo" Subject: R: [AVALON] Country Life promo puzzlebuzzle Da: "David Firmin" > I found this neat item on eBay > > pic > http://www.trashdaddy.com/ebay/DCP_5110.jpg > > Thet have a lot of other rare stuff. > I got it years ago but I never playd with the girls :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) DDDDDan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:31:49 -0000 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Country Life promo puzzle Tip: I find it easier to start at the corners and edges, then work my way in. I would imagine the foliage would also present a problem with completing this. Cheers Neil - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Firmin To: Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 6:49 PM Subject: [AVALON] Country Life promo puzzle > I found this neat item on eBay > > pic > http://www.trashdaddy.com/ebay/DCP_5110.jpg > > Thet have a lot of other rare stuff. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:34:59 0000 From: "diane whateley" Subject: RE:[AVALON]- Calling all (Scottish) Avalonians Following on from our successful pub-meet in snowy Glasgow in December, how about a repeat performance, but this time make it spring-time!! Everyone who can make it is welcome; being Scottish, I hasten to point out, is not a pre-requisite of attendance!! Around Easter is being suggested in various quarters, as folk may be coming home/ going on holiday to our fair city (etc.,etc.) Expressions of interest, off-list please, to me. Cheers, Diane Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:55:48 +0100 From: "danilo" Subject: R: RE:[AVALON]- Calling all (Scottish) Avalonians Last time I was in Glasgow it was so F..K cold! maybe next time is the best time with the warming avalonians .-) dan Mc Zal > Following on from our successful pub-meet in snowy Glasgow in December, how about a repeat performance, but this time make it spring-time!! > Everyone who can make it is welcome; being Scottish, I hasten to point out, is not a pre-requisite of attendance!! > Around Easter is being suggested in various quarters, as folk may be coming home/ going on holiday to our fair city (etc.,etc.) > Expressions of interest, off-list please, to me. > Cheers, > Diane ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:59:40 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy Music 1st Confirmed Dates USA Hi John et al, The unconfirmed date for Vancouver is the 3rd August rather than the 8th. Toronto tickets go on sale on the 10th March at 10:00AM. Prices are 85, 65 and $45 CAN Here's some additional information I have received and quote verbatim: DTE Energy Music Theater (Formerly Pine Knob) Clarkston, MI, USA (every artist says "HELLO DETROIT" even though it is about 30 miles outside of Detroit, anyway) [I bet Ferry says "Nice to see you again" - Chris] Saturday July 29th tickets go on sale MONDAY MARCH 12th at 10AM. IMPORTANT there are NO lawn tickets for sale. PAVILION TICKETS ONLY. 72.50 and 52.50 in US currency You also cannot get the tickets over the phone you either have to get them at a ticket agency in person or get them on line (the lady on the phone said that they have been having trouble with it though). AND you cannot go to the DTE box office because it is not open yet. of course all of these prices are subject to change and this is before the absurd charges and what not. Obviously as this is received information from another continent, I cannot vouch for its accuracy. Chris (full of community spirit...) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of jmdillon@mindspring.com Sent: 07 March 2001 02:44 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music 1st Confirmed Dates USA Good Evening All In the never ending effort to find out the Roxy Music North American Tour Dates I bring you new additional information that was posted today on Phil Manzanera's RoxyRamma and other web sites. So far the story is: From the Original Tour Schedule with Individual information listed below: Toronto : July 16, 2001 * Montreal: July 17, 2001* Philadelphia: July 19, 2001* Washington Boston New York Cleveland Detroit : July 29, 2001* Chicago Vancouver: August 8, 2001* San Francisco Los Angeles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:47:43 -0500 From: Alan Simonelli Subject: Re: [AVALON] top billing Actually I'm a bit bummed out at the thought of Pine Knob (DTE Music Theater). I was thinking a more intimate show at the Masonic Temple or even the Fox would be just right. Pine Knob is just so huge and messy. Glad I won't be sitting on the dirt (er lawn) for the Roxy show. By the way Mark, tickets may be even more expenisive because supposedly DTE is adding in a mandatory parking fee to every ticket. No more bringing in a car load of people for a mere $6. Sigh. Oh well it still is certainly not enough to keep me away!! :-) mark shanahan wrote: > and - ouch - > $72 beans! at least it's an outdoor facility ... er, wait - is that good? > i guess i mean it's not a complete monolithic arena from hell show ... > > peaces/ms > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:59:01 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] How not to sell records... I wonder if anyone recognises these Roxy/Ferry albums, all of which are genuinely advertised for sale currently at www.gemm.com Country Music Strandred Manifiesto Fresh Blood Bride Striped Bare Your Mind Remastered Ass Time Goes By Bette Noire Bridge Stripped Bare Recently I saw a Japanese copy of Roxy's fifth album on sale under the name Silen. Well I suppose it would be... Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:32:09 -0500 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: [AVALON] Roxy USA Dates: Additions & Corrections Good Evening Once Again Some new information and a correction as to what I had reported yesterday. A newly announced date of sale for one of the Roxy Music North American Tour Dates (Damn I like typing that.) In the height of my hurry yesterday I mistakenly reported the Vancouver, B.C. date as 8-8-2001. The actual unconfirmed date is 8-3-2001. So far the story is: From the Original Tour Schedule with Individual information listed below: Toronto : July 16, 2001 * Montreal: July 17, 2001* Philadelphia: July 19, 2001* Washington Boston New York Cleveland Detroit : July 29, 2001* Chicago Vancouver: August 3, 2001* San Francisco Los Angeles The Toronto Date is Confirmed Information is: Toronto Monday 16th July 2001 Air Canada Centre Toronto, ON, 40 Bay Street Toronto, ON M5J2X2 Box office & Info Line: 416-870-8000 Ticket Vendor: Ticketmaster 416-872-5000 NEW>>TICKETS GO ON SALE SATURDAY MARCH 10, 2001 AT 10 AM ET. TICKETS ARE $45, $65 AND $85 ($ CANADIAN) Montreal July 17th - Montreal's Molson Centre Not as of yet Confirmed and no current date of when ticket may go on sale. The Philadelphia ( actually ) Camden, New Jersey: Has a date, a venue and is listed on Ticketmaster but supposedly still not "Confirmed" But. Tickets Go On Sale Saturday, April 7, 2001 and there a limit of 8 per customer. Charge by phone @ 856-338-9000 Detroit is Confirmed Information is : Detroit Sunday 29th July 2001 DTE Energy Music Theatre Clarkston, MI, 7773 Pine Knob Rd. Clarkston, MI 48348 Box office & Info Line: 248-377-0100 Ticket Vendor: Ticketmaster 248-645-6666 Ticket prices are for pavilion seating only at $72.50 and $52.50 Tickets go on sale Monday March 12th at 10 AM. 8 ticket limit. Vancouver August 3rd - Vancouver's GM Place 800 Griffiths Way, Vancouver, BC. Not Confirmed and no current date of when ticket may go on sale. Since; "(The) One Thing We Share, Is an Ideal Of Beauty." I ask all our brethren in the cities still without dates or venues to keep your ears to the ground. Oh yeah, I once again though it was worth a mention, you know in case some one might have been missed it.... ROXY MUSIC TICKETS IN NORTH AMERICA ARE GOING ON SALE IN LESS THAN THREE DAYS. ( Montreal ) I hope this information is helpful. You are now returned to your regularly scheduled programming. "....hey did that kid just drop a pretzel, cause I like pretzels." Regards John Dillon Once Again .Additional thanks to Chris Turners great reporting. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:47:45 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] A Song For Europe On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, KB Porter wrote: > Does anyone have comments or thoughts about A Song For Europe that they > wish to share with us? Last call! OK, since you asked: I think it's unbearably cheesy (sorry to use that word again). I can barely listen to it without cringing, and I sincerely hope what I hear dripping from that song is irony. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 01:55:15 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] top billing [long] >From: Alan Simonelli >[snip] I was thinking a more intimate show at the Masonic Temple or even >the Fox would be just right. Pine Knob is just so huge and messy. Glad I >won't be sitting on the dirt (er lawn) for the Roxy show. hey al :^) yeah, the opera theatre ('as time goes by' tour '99) was comparatively perfect to where roxy will be holding court now. aw, *shucks* ... >By the way Mark, tickets may be even more expenisive because supposedly DTE >is adding in a mandatory parking fee to every ticket. No more bringing in >a car load of people for a mere $6. Sigh. sigh - without a bridge in venice to boot (just the michigan 'countryside' - ha). what, amy, did you hear was going to be this parking fee (GEE, plus ticketmaster's fee)? the nice lady at the box office said nary a word of this to me. from chris turner: >DTE Energy Music Theater (Formerly Pine Knob) Clarkston, MI, Saturday July >29th tickets go on sale MONDAY MARCH 12th at 10AM. IMPORTANT there are NO >lawn tickets for sale. PAVILION TICKETS ONLY. >You also cannot get the tickets over the phone you either have to get them >at a ticket agency in person or get them on line (the lady on the phone >said that they have been having trouble with it though). AND you cannot go >to the DTE box office because it is not open yet. thanks, chris - i'd forgotten to mention that it's pavillion only (they don't want anyone sliding down a muddy hill in their white tuxedos & siren outfits, now do they?). but, btw, the box office person told me that you COULD buy tickets through them - via telephone. i'll try to call tomorrow to confirm this. but - you know -i say they just *double* the price they're asking now - --jumpstart the american economy (give poor geoW a six-pack break [he ain't gonna make it happen]) and set the roxies for life (and just get it over with). sorry, guess i had more than my two seconds this time. peaces/ms _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:13:52 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON]- Calling all (Scottish) Avalonians I commented to JO'B at the Mad Affair that if a bomb had exploded in that room that night, 95% of the World's knowledge of Roxy Music would have been destroyed...perhaps we should be like the Royal Family and not travel together... ;0) Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of diane whateley Sent: 07 March 2001 22:35 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE:[AVALON]- Calling all (Scottish) Avalonians Following on from our successful pub-meet in snowy Glasgow in December, how about a repeat performance, but this time make it spring-time!! Everyone who can make it is welcome; being Scottish, I hasten to point out, is not a pre-requisite of attendance!! Around Easter is being suggested in various quarters, as folk may be coming home/ going on holiday to our fair city (etc.,etc.) Expressions of interest, off-list please, to me. Cheers, Diane ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:12:28 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: [AVALON] Warner Bros. I was reading a Marc Bolan article about his troubles with Warners, and Andy Mackay's name came up. Roxy's sax symbol, Andy Mackay summed up WB's the best: "I don't blame Warners ... They just aren't very good." ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #91 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest