From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #82 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, February 28 2001 Volume 06 : Number 082 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] LAM [philipcadams@lineone.net] Re: [AVALON] Set Lists / VIVA ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] All the world's a stage [jmdillon@mindspring.com] Re: [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Set Lists / VIVA [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] paranoia [KB Porter ] RE: [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] In Support.... [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] All the world's a stage [ASchulberg@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] In Support.... ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] In Support.... [Ida M Miller ] Re: [AVALON] I Got My Tickets! [Ktwicked@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] In Support....of other people ["Tim Kendrick" ] Re: [AVALON] In Support....of other people [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] In Support.... [ThomasS197@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] I Got My Tickets! ["Denise Firman" ] RE: RE: [AVALON] In Support.... ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] In Support.... [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] In Support.... [KWil632057@aol.com] [AVALON] Roxy as support band [Jim Rosencutter ] RE:[AVALON] Dublin ["diane whateley" ] Re: [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! [Jimlan801@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] In Support.... [OBrienFerry@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland/Green Green Grass ["ncjones.lewis2" ] Re: [AVALON] NEC Tickets ["ncjones.lewis2" ] Re: [AVALON] In Support....Split Enz [David Firmin ] RE: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland/Green Green Grass ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] In Support.... [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] NEC Tickets [stevesiren ] Re: [AVALON] Eno does Windows ["ncjones.lewis2" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:18:43 GMT From: philipcadams@lineone.net Subject: [AVALON] LAM I picked up this freebie magazine coming out of Oxford Circus tube this morning- I saw it had a Ferry pic on the cover, circa 1975/76 in GI get-up and pencil moustache. The article inside was standard stuff on the reunion, containing a few factual errors , but had a quote from Ferry saying that there was a Ferry/Eno song on the next, Ferry, album, and that he would like to work with Eno in the studio if there was to be further Roxy material. Philip LAM is Living abroad magazine , apparently. It says so on the cover ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:27:12 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists / VIVA >>> Richard Evans 02/28 12:16 am >>> > I after some typical set lists from the Stranded and Country Life tours. > Can anyone help please. Stranded tour: STREET LIFE / PYJAMARAMA / MOTHER OF PEARL / AMAZONA / CHANCE MEETING / VIRGINIA PLAIN / A SONG FOR EUROPE / GREY LAGOONS / IN EVERY DREAM HOME A HEARTACHE / LADYTRON / EDITIONS OF YOU / PSALM / IF THERE IS SOMETHING / SERENADE / RE-MAKE RE-MODEL / DO THE STRAND. Country Life tour: PRAIRIE ROSE / GREY LAGOONS / BEAUTY QUEEN / MOTHER OF PEARL / OUT OF THE BLUE / A SONG FOR EUROPE / 3 & 9 / IF IT TAKES ALL NIGHT / BITTERSWEET / IF THERE IS SOMETHING / A REALLY GOOD TIME / STREET LIFE / CASANOVA / IN EVERY DREAM HOME A HEARTACHE / ALL I WANT IS YOU / VIRGINIA PLAIN / EDITIONS OF YOU / THE THRILL OF IT ALL / RE-MAKE RE-MODEL / DO THE STRAND. A Really Good Time wasn't a regular (they used backing tapes for the strings on this one). The boots Real Cool Time, Bitter Sweet and Foolproof all have performances from these tours. After being sent some old audience tapes (of poor quality it has to be said) I've been trying to decide which shows/tours the songs on VIVA come from. This is what I think it could be... Out Of The Blue is 1974, Pyjamarama 1973, The Bogus Man not too sure, Chance Meeting definitely 1973 (they used to segue straight in to Virginia Plain), Both Ends Burning is 1975 (obviously), If There Is Something is 1974 (I think), Dream Home is probably 1974 and Do The Strand 1973. 1974 does seem to be their live peak, with some very powerful performances. It's a real shame VIVA wasn't a double. How about an official live box set to tie in with the tour? Yes please!!! SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:53:12 -0500 From: jmdillon@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] All the world's a stage On Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:01 AM Brian Folks wrote: >Burning Sensations opened Avalon Tour in L.A. > > I'm Back! > -Brian Folks <><><><><> Welcome back The Jetzons, an extremely good new wave band opened for Roxy on the Avalon Tour in Phoenix Arizona. They were the local darlings at the time and for good reason. They had just cut their first E.P. and had come off a west coast tour. The lead singer brought the house down when he walked up to the microphone and said " The whole band is proud to be opening and warming up you folks for our favorites, Roxy Music tonight." They then tore into their standard "4-3-1 Tonight." John D ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:38:21 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Julie Long wrote: > ground in the reunion debate. Also - I wonder if Eno was ever even > approached to be a part of the tour at all? On first read, his quote > seemed like so much sour grapes... I obviously don't know for sure, but I can't imagine that one of the founding members of Roxy Music was not approached with respect to the reunion. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:09:51 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists / VIVA At 11.27 +0000 1-02-28, Simon Galloway wrote: >It's a real shame VIVA wasn't a double. How about an official live box set >to tie in with the tour? That would be grate, but I'll settle for an updated VIVA as it was intended. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:24:11 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] paranoia Hello, Jim: Thanks for your interpretation. I quite agree that 'our psychological discomforts often(but not always) arise as much from ourselves as from others'. And the level of psychological discomfort varies among individuals. I believe that well-centered beings do not waste their energy in a deliberate attempt to harm others. Further, I believe every individual has a responsibility (in the very least) to safeguard and assist fellows. One needs to be well-balanced and self-confident in order to ride out any assault that may be externally foist upon their psyche: It is unfortunate, but society is peppered with individuals who are not at all well. These individuals attempt to abuse others, and believe they may do so simply because they themselves are susceptible to mental torture. The way a person views the world says much about their interior state of being. No matter the reason whereby an individual becomes damaged, it seems apparent that the road to wellness is not a guaranteed rite. Unfortunately some never make the recovery. They continue to live a life of mental debility, some become angry, some press others for a feeling of empowerment: Reactions are varied and run the gamut through passive and violent. Thank God, everyday that you are alive and well. Do your best to defend from those who mean to harm. If you are able to do just one good thing each day, try to be a positive force in the world. Life is too short for grudges, but it is long enough to take a stand and refuse to be moved into a bad place when the less fortunate do strike out to harm you. Sorry, I've tried to say a lot (my life's general philosophy) with an economy of words. Perhaps the above might explain to you why I vehemently oppose external attempts that seem to force unwanted disposition upon me and upon others - Forgive me for I freely will speak my mind in the presence of a perceived injustice. Sensitivity? Sensitive or insensitive? You decide. Best wishes. K.B.Porter ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:25:23 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! Glasgow Herald - 13 February 2001 Valerie Hannah Bryan Ferry speaking: . "I've been doing quite a few songs from the Roxy years in my show and so I thought the logical extension of that was to put the band together." He said both Manzanera and Andy Mackay, the band's saxophonist, were keen to do it. Brian Eno had been asked to join the tour but said he did not feel comfortable on stage. Ferry said: "Brian was the first to say that he is a studio animal and so not really for the touring game." Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Colleen Matan Sent: 28 February 2001 12:38 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Julie Long wrote: > ground in the reunion debate. Also - I wonder if Eno was ever even > approached to be a part of the tour at all? On first read, his quote > seemed like so much sour grapes... I obviously don't know for sure, but I can't imagine that one of the founding members of Roxy Music was not approached with respect to the reunion. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:43:08 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! >I obviously don't know for sure, but I can't imagine that one of the >founding members of Roxy Music was not approached with respect to the >reunion. > >Colleen > I'm absolutely sure you're right. The tour being a venture primarily for money, can you imagine the extra press coverage and attention it would have got with Eno's name on the marquee? But interestingly Eno's presence might have helped persuade those of us with doubts about the whole thing that it really would have been something new and fresh, which thus far has not occurred .One thing would have been certain: Eno wouldn't merely have come out and trotted out the best bits of the first two albums and gone home. So his presence would have achieved two things: More money and instant 'cred' all in one slim bald package! I'm a believer in the short and sweet ( being both myself), and feel that artists should come and do their thing and make a contribution and go away. Just as an old soldier must die after his heroism, because there is nothing worse for his reputation than lingering on to become a terrible bore, so a significant 'pop' group needs to know when to shut up and split up! And a reappearance twenty years on as old fogies cashing in is not only sad in itself, but makes you question the original work itself. But of course I shall be booking my tickets as soon as the NY dates are announced! Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:50:05 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] All the world's a stage Welcome back, Brian - where were you? I've noticed we have another poster from Las Vegas (are you still there? Were you ever there? - my mind gurgles.). Anyway, aren't you the guy with the "Hog"? If not, ignore this because I have surely remembered you as someone else. Oh No! I've drunk too much ccccoofeee and da powwees dis kikken downda dhore. ;^> KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:55:04 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... Following on from the previous discussion, who has supported Bryan Ferry's solo gigs? Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:12:10 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Tim Kendrick wrote: > Eno's name on the marquee? But interestingly Eno's presence might have > helped persuade those of us with doubts about the whole thing that it > really would have been something new and fresh, which thus far has not > occurred .One thing would have been certain: Eno wouldn't merely have > come out and trotted out the best bits of the first two albums and > gone home. So his presence would have achieved two things: More money > and instant 'cred' all in one slim bald package! A longtime subscriber (who I wish would speak up more) and I were discussing the reunion and he said the best he could hope for was a "wistful" Roxy Music. I don't know how or if Eno's presence would have contributed to this--or if it is his absence which might create this--but I like the idea of it anyway. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:21:55 EST From: ASchulberg@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] All the world's a stage In a message dated 02/27/2001 11:02:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, BPhilipson@aol.com writes: > Crack The Sky opened for Roxy in Pittsburgh on the Manifesto tour. Can't remember who, if anyone, opened for them on the Country Life tour at the Leona Theater in Homestead, PA. Anyone know? Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:20:47 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... I think it was Scarlet when I saw him at the BIC in 1995 (Reecey was there - he remembers). I think they did a song called "Independant Love Song" but for the life of me I can't remember how it goes.... SimonG >>> 02/28 1:55 pm >>> Following on from the previous discussion, who has supported Bryan Ferry's solo gigs? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:27:48 -0800 From: Ida M Miller Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... There was no support act for the ATGB tour in Anaheim and L.A. area ... was that true throughout the country? Ida KWil632057@aol.com wrote: > > Following on from the previous discussion, who has supported Bryan Ferry's > solo gigs? > > Jonathan > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:34:49 EST From: Ktwicked@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Got My Tickets! I woke up this morning to find my mum shaking me awake to tell me the wembley tickets had arrived! wa hey! cant wait. our seats are in block 10 which isnt as good as id hoped but hey ho, at least im going! what seats have you other guys got? luv kt (1 year lurker) Norwich Norfolk! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:06:39 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support....of other people - -----Original Message----- From: Ida M Miller To: avalon@smoe.org Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... >There was no support act for the ATGB tour in Anaheim and L.A. area >... was that true throughout the country? > >Ida There has been recently a bizarre development in support acts in the USA. At least I assume it's recent - perhaps it's always been like this over here? But twice in the last three years the support act has been... a comedian! The first time was at Carnegie hall supporting Ray Charles. This poor sod steps through the curtain unexpectedly and begins telling jokes into that cavernous, and at that time three quarters empty, hall. And the same thing happened when Aretha Franklin did a concert with the Hartford Symphony Orchestra in Hartford, CT. Of course it is virtually impossible actually to be funny under these circumstances. You have to admire the grit of comedians. It isn't as though the publicity had given any indication that the support would be anything other than music, as it normally is. Weird and slightly embarrassing. Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:32:57 -0800 From: Ida M Miller Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support....of other people Well, I agree that stand-up comedians as support acts is a weird pairing. However, in March 1976 I saw Patti Smith at a large club in north New Jersey called The Meadowbrook. Her support act was an unknown comedian who really caught my attention, and I resolved to remember him. Sure enough, it wasn't all that long afterwards that Billy Crystal surfaced and gained recognition! He was terrific even back then! Ida Tim Kendrick wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ida M Miller > To: avalon@smoe.org > Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... > > >There was no support act for the ATGB tour in Anaheim and L.A. area > >... was that true throughout the country? > > > >Ida > > There has been recently a bizarre development in support acts in the USA. > At least I assume it's recent - perhaps it's always been like this over > here? > But twice in the last three years the support act has been... a comedian! > The > first time was at Carnegie hall supporting Ray Charles. This poor sod > steps through the curtain unexpectedly and begins telling jokes into that > cavernous, and at that time three quarters empty, hall. And the same thing > happened when Aretha Franklin did a concert with the Hartford Symphony > Orchestra in Hartford, CT. Of course it is virtually impossible actually to > be funny under these circumstances. You have to admire the grit of > comedians. > It isn't as though the publicity had given any indication that the support > would be anything other than music, as it normally is. Weird and slightly > embarrassing. > > Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:48:37 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] In Support.... Scarlet were a support act on the UK Mamouna tour, Londonbeat on the Bete Noire. Both were up[ and coming acts who had chart singles at the time. Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of KWil632057@aol.com Sent: 28 February 2001 13:55 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... Following on from the previous discussion, who has supported Bryan Ferry's solo gigs? Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:53:42 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support....of other people On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Tim Kendrick wrote: > There has been recently a bizarre development in support acts in the > USA. At least I assume it's recent - perhaps it's always been like > this over here? But twice in the last three years the support act has > been... a comedian! The first time was at Carnegie hall supporting Ray > Charles. This poor sod steps through the curtain unexpectedly and > begins telling jokes into that cavernous, and at that time three > quarters empty, hall. And the same thing happened when Aretha Franklin > did a concert with the Hartford Symphony Orchestra in Hartford, CT. Of Not always, but it's certainly a holdover from the Las Vegas/Atlantic City/Borscht Belt circuit, which would in a way fit in with comedians opening for Ray and Aretha. > course it is virtually impossible actually to be funny under these > circumstances. You have to admire the grit of comedians. It isn't as > though the publicity had given any indication that the support would > be anything other than music, as it normally is. Weird and slightly > embarrassing. Maybe now, but many of the old time comedians cut their teeth on tour with musicians. I think, and I know there are folks here who can correct me if I'm wrong, that the music/music flow (instead of comedian/music) for pop/rock acts dates back as a general rule only back to the 1970s. Before that you have the vaudeville holder of the comic in place in lots of (seemingly?) incongruent places. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:20:24 EST From: ThomasS197@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... Once in Detroit, I saw a band called Mothers Finest and some group, (who's name I've long forgotten), with the singer from Uriah Heep! Very strange show. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:26:30 -0000 From: "Denise Firman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] I Got My Tickets! My Wembley tickets arrived a week or so ago. I booked direct with Wembley Box Office. Block A3 middle front block, row 7, so should be good!! Might see you there! D _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:41:41 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] In Support.... >>> "Chris Turner" 02/28 3:48 pm >>> >Londonbeat on the Bete Noire. Both were up[ and coming acts who had chart >singles at the time. The one that went "chew wah wah"? SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:03:37 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: RE: [AVALON] In Support.... No, the one that went: "5.00AM...on a New York subway..." Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Simon Galloway Sent: 28 February 2001 16:42 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: RE: [AVALON] In Support.... >>> "Chris Turner" 02/28 3:48 pm >>> >Londonbeat on the Bete Noire. Both were up[ and coming acts who had chart >singles at the time. The one that went "chew wah wah"? SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:14:14 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... In a message dated 28/02/01 14:05:57 GMT Standard Time, KWil632057@aol.com writes: > < Ferry's > solo gigs?>> Folk rockers "Illusion" were the support on the "In your mind" tour. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:16:46 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... 9 am on a New York subway wasn't it? Jonathan In a message dated 28/02/01 17:26:02 GMT Standard Time, ferryman@freeuk.com writes: > No, the one that went: "5.00AM...on a New York subway..." > > Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:18:51 -0600 From: Jim Rosencutter Subject: [AVALON] Roxy as support band I saw RM open up for ELO back in the mid-70s. Don't remember the exact date, but it was circa Siren. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:58:07 0000 From: "diane whateley" Subject: RE:[AVALON] Dublin How many of us Avalonians are going to the Dublin gig; for how long etc? Maybe we should all arrange to stay at the same hotel ( the Avalon hostel springs to mind!!), save some dosh with a group booking and have a really good time.. Mail me off list, if interested. Cheers, Diane Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:00:16 EST From: Jimlan801@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! ferry has said that he asked eno and eno said no. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:18:17 EST From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... Leena Conquest did the UK dates in October 1994 and Scarlet did the UK 1995 dates J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:58:40 -0000 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland/Green Green Grass Oh, and that bloke who played drums for Dire Straits during the Brothers in Arms period. He's doing local gigs now. Neil - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Squires To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland/Green Green Grass > On 27 Feb 2001, at 0:11, ncjones.lewis2 wrote: > > > O.K. butty.... The Manic Street Preachers, Cata-boody-tonia, > > Sterio-flippin'-phonics, Tom "the voice" Jones, The Alarm (O.K. I'm > > struggling now,) Bonnie Tyler.....erm.......oh yes, the one and > > only Shakin' Stevens. > > > > How's that for Cool Cymru > > And John Cale (as Guy has by now pointed out). And Harry Secombe > (the large bloke who stood at the back and performed the hilarious > shaving sketch in the Velvet Underground). > > David > -- > David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:02:17 -0000 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brits 2001 Maybe/probably a certain frontman's solo work will be held over until then to? groan Neil Jones - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Edwards To: Group Avalon Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:21 PM Subject: [AVALON] Brits 2001 > I was lucky enough to get an invite to The Brits 2001 last > night. Great night! My highlight was Destiny's Child, they > were FANTASTIC!!! U2.....mmm, it should have been Roxy! > Maybe next year? After the tour and another hits package. > Yes! It should all come together, shouldn't it??? > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:14:37 -0000 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] NEC Tickets Ah, I'm block A alas. I fear I may suffer a stiff neck! Neil P.S. Still no tickets! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Evans To: Avalon Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:10 AM Subject: [AVALON] NEC Tickets > Neil > > Got them over the phone Block B what a joy better than the circle at > B'ham Odeon on election night in 79 and better than the market in > Leicester for F+B tour. > > Cheers > > richard > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:56:59 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support....Split Enz I just came across something of interest. Split Enz and Roxy were on a New Zealand festival bill in 1981, Split Enz were billed above Roxy!! Enz bass player Mike Chunn said it was nice to see the elegant and ever-charming Manzy again. I thought that was interesting, because Manzanera discovered Split Enz when they were supporting Roxy. David ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:33:26 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland/Green Green Grass Terry Williams, used to be with Dave Edmunds, Billy Bremner and Nick Lowe in Rockpile. I saw them in 79. Think he was in Man before that. Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of ncjones.lewis2 Sent: 28 February 2001 19:59 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland/Green Green Grass Oh, and that bloke who played drums for Dire Straits during the Brothers in Arms period. He's doing local gigs now. Neil ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:39:00 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] In Support.... You're right, and you're not wrong. Weren't they Paul Young's backing singers on that Daryl Hall song Everytime You Go Away? Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of KWil632057@aol.com Sent: 28 February 2001 18:17 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... 9 am on a New York subway wasn't it? Jonathan In a message dated 28/02/01 17:26:02 GMT Standard Time, ferryman@freeuk.com writes: > No, the one that went: "5.00AM...on a New York subway..." > > Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:55:34 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] In Support.... In a message dated 28/02/01 21:50:22 GMT Standard Time, ferryman@freeuk.com writes: > < singers on that Daryl Hall song Everytime You Go Away?>> One of the members of London Beat was Jimmy Helms, who had a 1973 hit with "Gonna make you an offer you can't refuse." He must have been a bit of a veteran even back in 88. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:24:16 +0000 From: stevesiren Subject: Re: [AVALON] NEC Tickets By "the market in leicester" I presume you mean Granby Halls? Crap place , Crap acoustics. but sadly it was demolished late last year. I pass the plot where it stood most days I'm thinking of putting up a blue plaque on the wooden fence saying "Roxy Music played here 1981" Steve Richard Evans wrote: > Neil > > Got them over the phone Block B what a joy better than the circle at > B'ham Odeon on election night in 79 and better than the market in > Leicester for F+B tour. > > Cheers > > richard > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:12:17 -0000 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno does Windows I wonder what Eno's inspiration was for composing this masterpiece for Microsoft, a multinational (perhaps Global is a better word) monster of a corporation who has its software in the greater share of the worlds offices and homes. No doubt when Billy Gates mailed him his royalty cheque(s) from each copy of Win95, it left anything but a nasty taste in neither Eno's or his bank managers mouth. People in glass houses etc. Regards Neil Jones - ----- Original Message ----- From: Heather James To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: [AVALON] Eno does Windows > Actually, the ENO version of "The Microsoft Sound" was only part > of Windoze 95 - > I gather they chose to not pay Eno for a similar sound in > Win98/WinME/etc ... > > To see the details, open up Control Panel in Win95, and click on > SOUNDS ... > > Scroll down to "START WINDOWS" and if it is set to play "The Microsoft > Sound" - click on "Details" > > > Artist Brian Eno > Creation Date 1995-07-04 > Name The Microsoft Sound > Product Microsoft Windows 95 > Source Microsoft Corporation > One Microsoft Way > Redmond, WA 98052-6399 > Audio Format PCM,22.050 kHz, 8 Bit, Mono > > -= )-(eather =- > >------------------< > hjames@thewebgal.com > > MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ > Heather's Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ > My Roxy Music site: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ > >-----------------------------------------------------< > > > KB Porter wrote: > > > < John Dillon > > > > Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention: That little > > musically segment you > > always hear ever time you open up Microsoft Windows on your > > PC? * ENO *. > > > > > !!!! Really, John? Wow, way too cool! Is there an egg somewhere in > > Windows that credits Eno? Should I assume he has done other Windows > > environmental sounds, too? > > > > > > Best wishes. KBP > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 00:23:52 +0100 From: "Ton Darly" Subject: Re: [AVALON] BF's oeuvre Dear K.B. Porter, Two weeks ago (sorry for this late reaction; I have a busy job), you explained how the person BF may - or may not - be known through his works. I totally agree and couldn't say it better. Thank you! I think that your question "Is Bryan Ferry - the real person - as sad, as lonely as he sounds" cannot easily be answered. Maybe we can try by further discussing his works? I'm eager to do so! You wrote: "Bryan Ferry's music grabbed my heart, and perhaps a portion of my soul, from the very first time I heard it" and "The very nature of Ferry's work is exactly that which separates the great from the mondain [...] and keeps us guessing." Regarding your first statement, I have a peculiar and opposite experience: every new album, hearing it for the first time, made me feel: This is the *worst* album he has ever released, I don't want to hear it even one more time. But then, after some days, regretting my money wasted, I gave it another try, and again and again,..., until I only could conclude that I was listening to the *best* album I ever heard in my life. And this happened with really every RM/BF album! This brings me to your second statement. Indeed, each and every time, listening to a song, even to a familiar one, I hear new tones, consider new interpretations, get new ideas, see surrealistic landscapes passing my mind's eye, live in another world,... never boring, always inspiring. You invited me to explain my view on "... but there always remains my obsession: Through silken waters my gondola glides and the bridge it sighs." Well, the gondola thing has been discussed satisfactorily (excusez le mot) by others, and it's just the bridge that's puzzling me. I hoped that some Avalonions with a better feeling for the subtleties of the English language could help me. My own - artificial and most probably wrong - interpretation is as follows. Basically, A Song For Europe is a sad song about a lost love: loneliness, sorrow, no future, et cetera. BF is in a depressive mood. The phrase about gliding and silken water implies a quiet and peaceful ambience. Then there is the bridge, sighing. According to my vocabulary, 'sighing' also means 'yearning'. Why does the bridge yearn for BF, why does it attract him? Is it because BF sees the peaceful water below as the solution for his sorrow? In the second layer, where the gondola has an erotic connotation, the bridge could refer to a certain female curve that attracts him obsessively. Enough said, I can predict the comments... About looking back and regretting what you can't experience anymore: I think this is a repeating theme in BF's works. There are several songs where he looks back and the end of his life or even after his life, such as the last verse of If There Is Something; Strictly Confidential; Avalon; Spin Me Round. I don't know whether the latter ever has been discussed, but this one is very special to me. It says: turn me the other way around, let me go through life in the opposite direction, let me live life once again, from old age to youth. The song ends consequently: at the end you hear sweet tones, suggesting such a small wind-up music-box, hanging above the cradle. Fragile and touching! Ton _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #82 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest