From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V6 #80 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, February 27 2001 Volume 06 : Number 080 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Tabs & Chords for 70's Music [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] ENO The Book.... ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Wembley Tickets/Drummers ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] paranoia [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland/Green Green Grass ["David Squires " ] Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland [KB Porter ] [AVALON] Brits 2001 ["Rob Edwards" ] [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! [Doll819@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Brits 2001 ["Simon Galloway" ] [AVALON] Eno does Windows [Heather James ] RE: [AVALON] Brits 2001 ["Rob Edwards" ] Re: [AVALON] Eno does Windows [KB Porter ] RE: [AVALON] All the world's a stage [DuggerRonaldD@uams.edu] [AVALON] Re: Napster [MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty)] Re: [AVALON] Re: Napster [Heather James ] [AVALON] Yoko Ono castoffs [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] One rule for one..... [JFROXY@aol.com] [AVALON] How Do You Sleep? [M Gus ] RE: [AVALON] Yoko Ono castoffs ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] Yoko Ono castoffs [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Camden Date [Avalon887@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] paranoia [Jimlan801@aol.com] [AVALON] Eno, ad infinitum ["Linda Epstein" ] Re: [AVALON] All the world's a stage [stevesiren ] Re: [AVALON] Innocent furry animals or smooth and hairless legs. [David F] [AVALON] NEC Tickets [Richard Evans ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:01:11 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Tabs & Chords for 70's Music http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Backstage/3020/ I was looking for the underrated Deaf School's "Second Honeymoon" and came across a link namned Tabs & Chords for 70's Music, includes Roxy. I did not look the Roxy section, I'll leave that someone else. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 05:00:01 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Eno + Manzo While I agree with everything that has been said in defence of Eno's right to hold and voice his own opinions, as well as his failure to show much likelihood of joining the boys to twiddle some knobs, Avalonians may wish to read this from EnoWeb and gulp... On 17th February BBC Radio 3's eclectic music programme Mixing It broadcast a sneak preview of "Persis", a track from Drawn From Life. What's that, you ask? Are you sitting down, EnoWeb asks back. This may come as a shock, but it's the new album from Brian Eno and Peter Schwalm, due to be released "sometime in the spring", apparently. Mixing It presenter Robert Sandall had this to say about the track: "it has some of the moods and movement of his early ambient soundscapes, which coupled with the live performance aspect - not to mention Schwalm's gentle beats - give it the formality and structure of a through-composed piece... quite different, anyway, from anything Eno has put his name to these past 20 years." Still sitting down? According to the Mixing It boys, Brian has plans to go on tour with the album! By the way, I went to the I Love Cuba show in London last Saturday. Phil Manzanera came on stage to present a #10,000 cheque (Co-op Bank, thank GOD *one* of the Roxy boys is right on) to the Cuban Consul, quoting his time 42 years ago as an eight-year-old boy in Havana as the time he became inextricably linked with the I Love Cuba ethos. Later, he joined John Williams, John Etheridge and Mauricio Venegas on guitars and a Cuban violinist called Omar for the final song in John Williams' set. Musically stunning (although not too demanding on Manzo personally), it made for a great cool down before the sweat-inducing merengue marathon that followed.... Looking forward more than ever to the Roxy dates... Richard (n/p Human - Rod Stewart - I just had to hear how detached this impassioned lead vocalist could go for myself!) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:03:38 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] move your Harris Exactly! >>> 02/26 1:01 pm >>> On behalf of the younger viewers: Who the bloody hell is Bob Harris? Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:03:10 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: [AVALON] ENO The Book.... That's just how I felt when I read it. I just couldn't put it down. I initially bought it for the Bowie mentions (the Outside album was in progress during this year) but soon found that as well as being super-creative, he is also very funny and has some very normal thoughts. I found that reassuring. Since then I've realised that every creative idea is worth consideration, no matter how trivial or crap. It's a rare insight into how a creative mind works. READ IT YOU UNBELIEVERS!!!!!!! ;-) SimonG >>> Jocelyn Fiske 02/26 12:52 pm >>> >Try reading Eno's book (diary) called A Year with Swollen Appendices. It >illustrates a man simply bursting with ideas on a daily level, a man driven >to put theses ideas into practise on a daily basis. A man who totally admits >he's a hypochondriac but between bouts of illness (both imagined and real) >never stops questioning everything around him and looking at the world in a >way few of us have the imagination or energy to see through. > >By the time I'd reached May 21st in the book I was totally exhausted. And >not a little ashamed. Ashamed that I let days go by having good ideas >(creative thoughts) and doing bugger all about them. That book changed my >outlook on life, made me get off my arse, stop making excuses and do >something about it. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:06:24 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Wembley Tickets/Drummers >>> Richard Evans 02/26 7:36 pm >>> >Just got my NEC tickets. Can't wait for June 16th Just got my Wembley first night tickets! >A few thoughts - on balance I rather have TGPT than AN simply because of >the thrust he gives the older songs. They just don't sound right with Mr >Newmark even though he does a fine fine job on the newer material. What about the older songs on the ATGB tour? Street Life, Out Of The Blue and Virginia Plain needed TGPT rather than the tinkering codger who was up there! SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:00:47 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] All the world's a stage Londonbeat? In a message dated 27/02/01 01:29:02 GMT Standard Time, eddieriff@yahoo.com writes: > I'd like to know what other bands Roxy shared the bill with? Roxy supported > Bowie on his Ziggy Stardust tour. I know Split Enz opened for them in > Australia (that's how Phil discovered them and produced their album). The > Sadistic Mika Band opened for them on the Siren tour. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:13:38 -0000 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland/Green Green Grass On 27 Feb 2001, at 0:11, ncjones.lewis2 wrote: > O.K. butty.... The Manic Street Preachers, Cata-boody-tonia, > Sterio-flippin'-phonics, Tom "the voice" Jones, The Alarm (O.K. I'm > struggling now,) Bonnie Tyler.....erm.......oh yes, the one and > only Shakin' Stevens. > > How's that for Cool Cymru And John Cale (as Guy has by now pointed out). And Harry Secombe (the large bloke who stood at the back and performed the hilarious shaving sketch in the Velvet Underground). David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:13:39 -0000 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland On 26 Feb 2001, at 23:31, > thom.wallace wrote in reply to >> my message: > > My comment was light-hearted, a condition to which you unfortunately > > seem immune. > > To the condition no, but to your understanding of it yes. You seem to want > to use light-heartedness as a cover for being openly rude about some one > whom you have never met. In what way was my comment rude? And to whom? If I felt it necessary to be rude I wouldn't seek to hide it - what would be the point? Is it necessary to have met someone before presuming to be rude to them? In seeking to disparage U2 in your original posting, it might be interpreted that you were being openly rude to the entire Irish nation! > > Incidentally, why would you want to "head off" comments from people who > > might disagree with your opinion on Eno? It didn't work, did it? > > It was an attempt at not having thread start which detracted from the main > point. The point being that I don't rate Eno's work anywhere near as > highly as I do the bulk of Ferry's. It seemed logical that the supporters > of Eno would site the success of his production work with U2 as a > validation of his talent. An argument to which I am immune ... You're perfectly entitled to your point of view on this and any other matter. But not to expect that others holding different opinions might want to put those views across in reply is, at best, naive. The wide differences in opinions expressed by the people who post here is one of the things that make it, on a good day, an interesting place to be. Incidentally I do not wish to defend U2. A few good tunes and a lot of padding and posturing IMHO, although there are worse, of course. A better validation of Eno's talent would be to cite his own records, the diary (which Jocelyn and Simon have enthused about already, it's a bloody good read) and his production work with Talking Heads (esp. Fear of Music and Remain in Light) and James. However, I suspect you feel an antipathy towards Eno's ambient work similar to that which I feel for opera. It's possible that someone might persuade me otherwise, but it's not very likely! > and as far as I'm concerned that's all I have to say on the matter. Fair enough Thom. David ("I'm a heterogenius, I wanna testify" Scritti Politti, Faithless 1982) - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:49:37 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] paranoia < The "nobody hurts you" quote is Bryan's. I was using it specifically. So was he. > Yah, but stripping any quote out of its context forces the quote to stand without its original supporting scenery, the lyric's meaning then becomes subject to the environment in which it is used: Most lyrics are not capable of standing alone. Just what was your "specific" use of this lyric as it related to the context of your original quote? I must have missed it, sorry. Of course, Mr. Ferry was specific in his usage. Still we may only infer what meaning that might be, given the lyric's total intended environment. A great lyricist not only knows that but is able to create the masterpiece - the play is more than the spoken word. Have a raucous Fat Tuesday, folks! KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:44:52 -0000 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland/Green Green Grass On 27 Feb 2001, at 12:13, David Squires wrote: > And Harry Secombe (the large bloke who stood at the back and > performed the hilarious shaving sketch in the Velvet Underground). Sorry - I was confusing the Velvet Underground with the Nottingham Empire. David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:56:12 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] One rule for one..... BRAVO COLLEEN!!! ;o) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:18:23 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland < John Dillon Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention: That little musically segment you always hear ever time you open up Microsoft Windows on your PC? * ENO *. > !!!! Really, John? Wow, way too cool! Is there an egg somewhere in Windows that credits Eno? Should I assume he has done other Windows environmental sounds, too? Great to see you posting. And good posts they are too! I think of you everytime I here "Spin Me Round". Kindness does not go unnoticed, here - - thanks. Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:21:35 -0000 From: "Rob Edwards" Subject: [AVALON] Brits 2001 I was lucky enough to get an invite to The Brits 2001 last night. Great night! My highlight was Destiny's Child, they were FANTASTIC!!! U2.....mmm, it should have been Roxy! Maybe next year? After the tour and another hits package. Yes! It should all come together, shouldn't it??? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:34:04 EST From: Doll819@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Another stinking opinion! Even though I am a North American (as we are currently being called), I loathe U2. One of the great moments in rock history was when a senile Frank Sinatra looked at bono & wanted to know who the bum was! But I adore BF/RM, & that's why we have this list... Have a great day! Debs ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:42:36 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno/ U2/ Ireland "... In seeking to disparage U2 in your original posting, it might be interpreted that you were being openly rude to the entire Irish nation!" Ah, back round to full circle. See how it works? Now. Does anyone still think that Kate was being "paranoid"? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:45:39 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Brits 2001 But what about HEAR'SAY? >>> "Rob Edwards" 02/27 2:21 pm >>> I was lucky enough to get an invite to The Brits 2001 last night. Great night! My highlight was Destiny's Child, they were FANTASTIC!!! U2.....mmm, it should have been Roxy! Maybe next year? After the tour and another hits package. Yes! It should all come together, shouldn't it??? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:57:10 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: [AVALON] Eno does Windows Actually, the ENO version of "The Microsoft Sound" was only part of Windoze 95 - I gather they chose to not pay Eno for a similar sound in Win98/WinME/etc ... To see the details, open up Control Panel in Win95, and click on SOUNDS ... Scroll down to "START WINDOWS" and if it is set to play "The Microsoft Sound" - click on "Details" Artist Brian Eno Creation Date 1995-07-04 Name The Microsoft Sound Product Microsoft Windows 95 Source Microsoft Corporation One Microsoft Way Redmond, WA 98052-6399 Audio Format PCM,22.050 kHz, 8 Bit, Mono -= )-(eather =- >------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ Heather's Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music site: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >-----------------------------------------------------< KB Porter wrote: > < John Dillon > > Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention: That little > musically segment you > always hear ever time you open up Microsoft Windows on your > PC? * ENO *. > > > !!!! Really, John? Wow, way too cool! Is there an egg somewhere in > Windows that credits Eno? Should I assume he has done other Windows > environmental sounds, too? > > > Best wishes. KBP > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > - -- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:02:33 -0000 From: "Rob Edwards" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Brits 2001 Hear'say? mmmmmmmm I'm saying nothing!! You, the jury, must decide Rob Edwards _________________________________________________________ But what about HEAR'SAY? ______________________________________ >>> "Rob Edwards" 02/27 2:21 pm >>> I was lucky enough to get an invite to The Brits 2001 last night. Great night! My highlight was Destiny's Child, they were FANTASTIC!!! U2.....mmm, it should have been Roxy! Maybe next year? After the tour and another hits package. Yes! It should all come together, shouldn't it??? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:27:43 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno does Windows Thank you, Heather! I'll check this out on my pc operating Windows 95. Best wishes to ya webgal. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:34:04 -0600 From: DuggerRonaldD@uams.edu Subject: RE: [AVALON] All the world's a stage Once again, let us not forget Alice Cooper and Roxy Music. - -----Original Message----- From: David Firmin [mailto:eddieriff@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:59 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] All the world's a stage I'd like to know what other bands Roxy shared the bill with? Roxy supported Bowie on his Ziggy Stardust tour. I know Split Enz opened for them in Australia (that's how Phil discovered them and produced their album). The Sadistic Mika Band opened for them on the Siren tour. What other memorable acts toured with Roxy? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:44:06 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (Mary Korfanty) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Napster May be of interest----Recording Industry exec. have this to say---Napster has hurt CD Sales. Shipments of CD singles sent last year dropped by 39%. Marlana............................................. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:18:42 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Napster And I hunted down (and purchased) CDs by Banco de Gaia and many other bands after I had a taste of the music through Napster ... Don't believe everything you hear from the Music Industry wonks - their agenda is considerably different than ours ... And if so, perhaps the reason sales are down is due to the excessive price of CDs? with CD retail prices at $17.95 and fast closing on $20 each, no wonder some folks are balking at such purchases ... The industry profits went up, but for the most part, the artists profits never changed from the days of vinyl LPs -= )-(eather =- >------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com MCC NOVA's Website: http://www.mccnova.com/ Heather's Website: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/ My Roxy Music site: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ >-----------------------------------------------------< Mary Korfanty wrote: > May be of interest----Recording Industry exec. have this to > say---Napster has hurt CD Sales. Shipments of CD singles sent last year > dropped by 39%. Marlana............................................. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:07:50 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Yoko Ono castoffs You ever notice how all those Roxy drummers played on Yoko Ono albums? (Moratta, Newmark, Schwartzberg, Maelen) For those of you who don't care if Paul is involved, get Ono Box (1992). There you'll get a virtual smorgasbord of all the drummers needed to fill Paul's shoes. *When Roxy had their only number 1 hit with Jealous Guy, who made more money - - Roxy or Yoko? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:26:08 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] One rule for one..... In a message dated 27/02/01 01:45:33 GMT Standard Time, cjem@his.com writes: > < than the general?>> Eh, ok, I'll stick to that then, thanks for the advice. Hey KBPorter, you're very vociferous this weather, too much cheap wine in the cornflakes methinks (hic). ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:39:30 +0100 From: M Gus Subject: [AVALON] How Do You Sleep? I'm aware of the fact that there was a discussion on this topic some time ago, but- I missed it- and so- could someone please tell me if Ferry & Eno really were very unfriendly towards eachother after Roxy split up? I downloaded Dead Finks, and that one is not very nice towards Bryan or so it seems. Casanova could be explained as a very negative song towards Eno... It's always nice to know a bit more about motives behind songs :) Gus - --- "That MUST be her sister, right?"-Eels http://www.cs.vu.nl/~gagussek gagussek@cs.vu.nl - --- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:54:49 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Yoko Ono castoffs Maelen worked with just about anyone who is anyone in mainstram rock before succumbing to leukaemia during the 1990's. Here is a list of some of the artists he worked with. http://www.netfx.com/~mansion/musicianm.html#JIMMYMAELEN Ferry once appeared in a fundraising concert to help pay for Maelen's hospital expenses. So much for his lack of compassion. Maelen frequently worked with both Newmark and Schwarzberg, and was friendly with both. Here is an article which confirms this: http://www.stereosociety.com/body_schmoddr.html Thompson is still better than either of them though... Incidentally, two-thirds of Roxy Music's final rhythm section from 1983 are now no longer with us, bassist Alan Spenner having bitten the big one in 1992. Chris - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of David Firmin Sent: 27 February 2001 17:08 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Yoko Ono castoffs You ever notice how all those Roxy drummers played on Yoko Ono albums? (Moratta, Newmark, Schwartzberg, Maelen) For those of you who don't care if Paul is involved, get Ono Box (1992). There you'll get a virtual smorgasbord of all the drummers needed to fill Paul's shoes. *When Roxy had their only number 1 hit with Jealous Guy, who made more money - - Roxy or Yoko? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:47:00 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Yoko Ono castoffs Yikes! Sorry.... That reminds me of the problem Spinal Tap had with drummers. They had about 30 drummers throughout their career as a band. Unfortunately, almost all of them have died in very strange ways. One was the victim of a bizarre gardening accident, while another spontaneously combusted onstage. The police have thought it best that these little mysteries remain unsolved. Fortunately, Roxy's only real drummer is still among us.. hint, hint.. on 2/27/01 9:54 AM, Chris Turner at ferryman@freeuk.com wrote: > Maelen worked with just about anyone who is anyone in mainstram rock before > succumbing to leukaemia during the 1990's. Here is a list of some of the > artists he worked with. > > http://www.netfx.com/~mansion/musicianm.html#JIMMYMAELEN > > Ferry once appeared in a fundraising concert to help pay for Maelen's > hospital expenses. So much for his lack of compassion. Maelen frequently > worked with both Newmark and Schwarzberg, and was friendly with both. Here > is an article which confirms this: > > http://www.stereosociety.com/body_schmoddr.html > > Thompson is still better than either of them though... > > Incidentally, two-thirds of Roxy Music's final rhythm section from 1983 are > now no longer with us, bassist Alan Spenner having bitten the big one in > 1992. > > Chris > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > David Firmin > Sent: 27 February 2001 17:08 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Yoko Ono castoffs > > > You ever notice how all those Roxy drummers played on Yoko Ono albums? > (Moratta, Newmark, Schwartzberg, Maelen) > > For those of you who don't care if Paul is involved, get Ono Box (1992). > There you'll get a virtual smorgasbord of all the drummers needed to fill > Paul's shoes. > > *When Roxy had their only number 1 hit with Jealous Guy, who made more money > - Roxy or Yoko? > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:25:27 EST From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Camden Date The Beacon is a really really great venue. Have seen BF there on more than one occasion as well as numerous other acts. Radio City Music Hall is larger and somewhat classier and would be fun to see RM there. However, Jones Beach Amphitheatre is also a great venue and I would love to see BF & RM there. The only disadvantage to there is it's rain or shine and I have experienced sitting through the rain and it's no fun. I sat through Dylan last summer in the pouring rain; soaked through and through. However, when Phil Lesh came on stage the rain stopped and it was a great show! Madison Square Garden is a no no for Roxy Music.... he would get lost on that great big stage and as loyal as I am, I believe that they would not sell out the Garden! Regards, Eileen in Kew Gardens ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:00:41 EST From: Jimlan801@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] paranoia hello kb. oops, i think i should've mentioned what i understand by the line "all your troubles come from yourself,nobody hurts you, they don't care" (from 'a really good time'). to me it seems to say that in our 'sophisticated' western world our psychological discomforts often(but not always) arise as much from ourselves as from others. we can be over-sensitive. most other people don't 'care' about us enough to do us spiritual harm. the inverse of people always hurting the ones they love. i think it refers to mental rather than physical hurt. sometimes hurt is felt where none was intended. i kind of assumed the original context and colour of the quotation would be clear here but i think i was too much in my own head, sorry! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:11:21 -0500 From: "Linda Epstein" Subject: [AVALON] Eno, ad infinitum I know we've been talking about Eno's posting in Rolling Stone. Launch has their take on it: Eno blasts Roxy Music reunion (Launch) - When Roxy Music announced its reunion earlier this month, mainstays Bryan Ferry, Andy Mackay and Phil Manzanera said former member Brian Eno would not be part of the tour. Now, Eno has come out against the whole idea of his former act getting back together. Eno, who left the band in 1973, is quoted in Rolling Stone as saying "I'm not interested anymore" when asked his thoughts on Roxy Music touring again. He adds, "It's obvious why it's being done. Why does anyone have a reunion? They've suddenly been fired up with a whole bunch of incredible new ideas that have been lying dormant for the last 25 years?" Eno follows up with, "I just don't like the idea. It leaves a bad taste." Since leaving the group, Eno has worked with a wide range of acts, including David Bowie, Peter Gabriel, INXS, Talking Heads and U2. Roxy Music kicks off its reunion tour on June 9 at the Point Depot in Dublin, Ireland. Linda.... still waiting for that DC date... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:22:44 +0000 From: stevesiren Subject: Re: [AVALON] All the world's a stage Here's a list of Roxy's support acts.(UK) I'm doing this from memory, so apologies if I make a mistake, but I'm sure there's a Kenneth More lookalike out there who can put me right! 73 (spring, FYP) Sharks, Lloyd Watson. 73 (autumn, Stranded) Leo Sayer 74 (Country Life) Jess Roden Band 75 (Siren) Sadistic Mika Band 79 (Manifesto) Tourists 80 (F+B) Martha & the Muffins 81 (F+B rearranged dates after Ferry's illness) Passions 82 (Avalon) Mari Wilson) Steve David Firmin wrote: > I'd like to know what other bands Roxy shared the bill with? Roxy supported > Bowie on his Ziggy Stardust tour. I know Split Enz opened for them in > Australia (that's how Phil discovered them and produced their album). The > Sadistic Mika Band opened for them on the Siren tour. > > What other memorable acts toured with Roxy? > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:03:04 +0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sweet little innocent furry animals, and more than this ... - ---------- >From: "Guy Lawley" > > As for Bryan Ferry's pro-hunting stance, it is clearly understandable in the > context of his wish to be accepted amongst the rural community. Trawling trough the trillion tawdry typings that greet my return from a West Country sojourn I am pleasantly surprised by the level of debate about our cunning bushy-tailed friends. No I'm not referring to John O'Brien's splendid rectal quiff but the achingly dull issue of the Countryside Alliance. I half expect David Firmin to set up a poll about whether or not one should wash one's boots in Dettol before shaking Paul Thompson's hand. Tim Kendrick, conversly, is a fabulously underated contributor to Avalon yet I feel his anti-PC stance is, for once, misplaced here. The century-old political battle lines of right v left have been subtely redrawn in this sceptered isle since the advent of New Labour. It appears to me that we're pretty classless these days - God knows all and sundry mock my cravat ! and with good reason - but there is a perception that the Blair government favours Urban Britain whilst the (fairly unpleasant) opposition party pitches itself as the defender of mono-cultural rural Albion. So what ? Well now I pick up on Guy's comment, quoted above. A lot of Bryan's work deals in opposites. His love of cities is well documented - they may change but they always remain his obsession. Yet sometimes he feels a yerarning for the quiet life, the country air and all of its joys. New York City, the main line to Harlem one minute. Thundercloud on the hill, Let me lie in your shade, the next. "in the context of his wish to be accepted amongst the rural community, writes Guy. Was he a child of the city ? No. His upbringing was largely rural. A stranger in this town. Windswept is on the tide, A feeling only or state of mind. I think he just decided that badgers could compensate for just another night with the boys. pip pip Martino PS Loved A Mad Affair and Mad Ron's boys. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:06:24 -0000 From: "Reecey" Subject: Re: [AVALON] All the world's a stage Damnably correct, Mr. Niven. Though, I never saw Mari Wilson, as I was always in the bar. King Crimson supported at Frejus (never saw them either, in fact remember very little of the entire day - a bit of a party was going on). Otherwise, Lloyd Watson was cool, Sharks were mental and slightly heavy with a brilliant if eccentric lead vocalist called Snips - think Spedding was on Guitar for them, and Fraser from Free was present too(I think). Leo Sayer was really good, surprisingly enough - very good songs on his debut Album, I'll have you know. Jess Roden was good - belying his more 'jazzy' roots on this tour - it was more straight Rock/Pop from him at this time. Great song on his Album from 74' called 'What The Hell' - which the audience really appreciated. Sadistic Mika Band ruled ok - I became a big fan. Have a few Albums of theirs on CD now, to replace the old battered vinyl. Kept the Vinyl though as it's autographed (natch). Hung about for ages near the Hotels on that Tour, to get pics (mainly with Mika herself). Nothing changes, eh ? The Tourists were reasonably interesting the first couple of times - 'Blind Among The Flowers' being their 'showstopper' - but tired of them quickly. Everyone thought Annie was a bloke. (really). Martha and The Muffins were atrocious. I don't remember The Passions, so maybe they didn't create too much of an impression. Neither did Roxy on a few of the dates (My God, what is he saying ?)... Well, it wasn't my favourite tour. But it was still Roxy Music (just, with all those 75 other people on stage) so that's what counts. Must dash - we're about to take Dublin... Kenneth More - ----- Original Message ----- From: stevesiren To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] All the world's a stage > Here's a list of Roxy's support acts.(UK) > I'm doing this from memory, so apologies if I make a mistake, but I'm sure > there's a Kenneth More lookalike out there who can put me right! > 73 (spring, FYP) Sharks, Lloyd Watson. > 73 (autumn, Stranded) Leo Sayer > 74 (Country Life) Jess Roden Band > 75 (Siren) Sadistic Mika Band > 79 (Manifesto) Tourists > 80 (F+B) Martha & the Muffins > 81 (F+B rearranged dates after Ferry's illness) Passions > 82 (Avalon) Mari Wilson) > Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:28:31 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Innocent furry animals or smooth and hairless legs. New poll about whether or not one should wash one's boots in Dettol before shaking Paul Thompson's hand. http://polls.vantagenet.com/5/3/2127163353/polls/2127165452/index.htm Please cast your vote! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:10:06 +0000 From: Richard Evans Subject: [AVALON] NEC Tickets Neil Got them over the phone Block B what a joy better than the circle at B'ham Odeon on election night in 79 and better than the market in Leicester for F+B tour. Cheers richard ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V6 #80 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest